Tag: Dr.Wagner Jr.

Santo/Wagner/Park, Consejo vs Wolves/Tomahawk, Titan/Averno, Charly Manson

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indy (SUN) 06/30/2013 Arena Solidaridad [KrisZ, LuchaMania]
1) Caballo Dorado, La Coronela, Solovino b Black Hanibbal, Destructor, Mini Hator
2) Atomo, Crazy Demon, Demonio del Caribe b Dark War, Norteño, Norteño Jr.
Demon used the ropes to win.
3) Ciber Payaso & Mortifero b Ángel o Demonio & Obett and Chamaco Gurrola & Galactar
Less extreme than you’d expect (maybe because of Santo?) Payaso used the ropes to get the pin.
4) Diluvio Negro II, Orquídea Negra, Silver Star b Koko Viper, Mongol Chino, Sergio Romo Jr.
Romo fouled Silver, Diluvio fouled Mongol, ref counted that second pin.
5) Trauma I & Trauma II b Cerebro Negro & Dr. Cerebro
Best match of the night. Trauma II beat Cerebro Negro with a Canadian Destroyer.
6) LA Park b El Hijo Del Santo, Dr. Wagner Jr.
Complete brawl, into the crowd and mark ripping. LA Park complained about Santo getting involved in a match with Wagner & Park before the match and warned him he’d pay if didn’t back out. Santo didn’t back out, and LA Park gave him a martinete. Wagner got the pin somehow. Santo was strechered and taken to the hospital. Park powerbombed Wagner thru a table after 10 more minutes for the win. Wagner was also strechered out, though not before LA Park mimed burying him.

The latest on the Hijo del Santo injury storyline is he says he went under surgery this week and will be back in the ring in September. Pretty good turn around on neck surgery to be back in two months. Despite this, his Record column is still coming out tomorrow. For his part, LA Park blames Santo for getting involved in his fight with Dr. Wagner Jr.  Park doesn’t try to pivot the feud to Park vs Santo, which is peculiar because Santo seems to be setting that up as the replacement match. Easiest explanation is a Santo/Park/Wagner/??? four way with the fourth guy losing their mask.  CFan Deportes uses the opportunity to write about famous martinetes in lucha libre.

FLM (SUN) 06/30/2013 Auditorio Siglo XXI, Yucatan, Merida [Estrellas del Ring, R de Rudo]
1) Angel Vengador & Torino b Mensajero del Diablo & Rebelde Punk
Announced match had been Fly Warrior, Shadow, Tornado (DF) vs Belial, Fly Metalik, Metaleon.
2) Ángel del Misterio, Niño Hamburguesa, Psico Kid b Dragosth, Golden, Juana La Loca
Psico Kid’s team represents ICHIBAN, the other team are members of Demencia Dorada. Gargola, Nino Hamburguesa and Dave the Clown dropped from the ICHIBAN side.
3) La Magnifica & La Sádica b Demasiado & Faby Apache
Demasiado replaced Keira. Magnifica was Sadica’s surprise partner. Juana La Loca distracted Demasiado for the loss.
4) Argenis, Fenix (AAA), Yuta b Argos, Crazy Boy, Pentagón Jr.
Nino Harmburgesa will be with Crazy Boy
5) Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Silver King, Texano Jr. b Davey Richards, Eddie Edwards, Tomahawk T.T.
Foreigners took fall 1, Consejo fall 2. Referee Copetes fouled the other referee (who was helping the foreigners) and helped the Consejo team win.

photo by CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 07/02/2013 Arena Mexico [CMLL]
1) Molotov & Oro Jr. b Apocalipsis & Camorra
2) Hijo del Signo, Nitro, Nosferatu b Hombre Bala Jr., Soberano Jr., Súper Halcón Jr.
Nitro replaced Disturbio. Rudos took 2/3, helped by a Soberano error.
3) Hijo del Fantasma, Sagrado, Tritón b Misterioso Jr., Puma, Sangre Azteca
Tecnicos took 2/3. Phantom Attack on Misterioso.
4) Virus b Bushiroad [lightning]
Virus won in six minutes and looked dominant.
5) Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Tiger b Fuego, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr.
TRT took 1/3, won with a Tormento Guerrero.
6) Máscara Dorada, Titán, Valiente b Averno, Pierroth, Volador Jr.
Tecnicos took 1/3. Titan beat Averno again, and Averno finally conceded to a title match.

Averno accepted the challenge over on YouTube. Titan says he’s still the real champion.

CMLL (TUE) 07/02/2013 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [@acogdl]
1) Esfinge & Smaker b Évola & Exterminador
Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Artillero & Súper Comando b Leo & Sky Kid
DF rudos beat GDL tecnicos, taking falls 2/3.
3) Dalis la Caribeña, Goya Kong, Silueta DQ Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sugheit, Zeuxis
Tecnicas took 1/3. Blanca dropkicked the ref by mistake. Goya & Blanca challenged each other post match.
4) Shocker DQ Mr. Águila
Aguila won the first with a moonsault, Shocker pinned him in the second, and Aguila tried to sneak in a foul on Shocker but was caught for the DQ.
5) La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush b Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
Tecnicos took 2/3.

Princesa Blanca took Goya Kong’s mask, but is now stuck feuding with her for the rest of time. A genuine monkey’s paw situation.

CMLL has a press event Thursday at noon. It’s the usual bit of not announcing it publicly ahead of time, but bits and pieces leaked out.

  • The Infierno en el Ring cage match should be announced. We know the participants (the 10 guys in the cibernetico on Friday), and the only thing left is to say if it’ll be on 07/12 or 07/19.
  • Another major show will take place on Friday August 16, likely involving the same group of independent luchadors seen on the Arena Coliseo Anniversary show.
  • Marco Corleone teased a positive injury update which will be announced Thursday.
  • Titan vs Averno will definitely be spotlighted. Guerrero Maya plans on challenging for the Arena Coliseo tag team titles next Sunday, so maybe that’ll be officialized here. That show will probably also be an Arena Mexico one.
  • There should be updates on the En Busca de un Idolo tournament and CMLL’s recent adventures in Japan. It’s possible CMLL may mention their participation in the G1 tournament, since NJPW will be releasing the full list of participants in about 15 hours later.

There’s probably a bit more than that. It sure looks like there’s also a cage match coming in Puebla (on 07/14 or 07/21) and that’s something that should be stated here. Something spotlighting the Estetas makes sense.  Ideally, they’d go as far as announce the Anniversary show date as well.

AAA had a video interview with Electroshock last night, talking about how he got interested in lucha libre, the origin of his character and Charly Manson’s status.  One summary says Charly has still never been formerly sentenced and no one knows how long he’s in for.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

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DTU (SUN) 07/07/2013 Autolavado VM, Tulancingo
1) Kalibus vs Corazon Latino, Yuta, Sacristan, Mantra, Factor Miedo, ?
2) JC Maclean & La Magnifica vs ? & Zuzu Divine
3) Ángel del Misterio & Príncipe Halcón vs Jhonky & Jorge Kebrada
4) Black Fire & Slayer Pack vs Crazy King & Principe Escorpion and Lanzeloth & Rocky Lobo and Miedo Extremo & Pequeno Cobra
5) Aero Boy, Cíclope, Paranoiko, Violento Jack vs Artikus, Drastik Boy, Hormiga, Principe Orion
6) Davey Richards & Eddie Edwards vs Crazy Boy & Joe Lider and Hacker & Kaleth

One more DTU show, also supposed to be taped by TVC Deportes. Autolavado = car wash parking lot, but this setting looked great when they showed clips from the most recent DTU show here.

IWRG (SUN) 07/07/2013 Arena Naucalpan
1) Freelance & Galaxie vs Araña de Plata & Fulgor
2) Dinamic Black, Dr. Cerebro, Freeyser vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Oficial 911, Tomahawk
3) Astro Rey Jr. vs Imposible, Dragón Celestial [IWRG IC Light]
title is vacant, final survivors from a three way last week
4) Trauma I, Trauma II, Veneno vs Fuerza Guerrera, Máscara Año 2000 Jr., X-Fly
5) Negro Navarro vs Solar I [FMLL MASTER]
Negro is listed as champion

I’ve seen that match! It’s a good match.

indy (SUN) 07/07/2013 Arena Coliseo San Luis Potosi
1) Galactar Jr. & Vandor vs Metal & Neurosis
2) Dragon Fury, Magnifico (slp), Rey Deimante vs Gemelo I, Gemelo II, Judoka
3) Aster Boy, Meteoro (slp), Turbo Kid vs Cachorro, Kukuxklan, Mensajero
4) Divino, Faraon De La Meurte, Oro Azul vs Black Extreme, Drack Conde, Extrem Fly
5) Bogar vs Virus [CMLL SL]
Virus is champion. Fourth known defense.

For real. Could Bogar become the Super Lightweight champion of the world? He’s got more of a chance than you do (unless you’re Virus.) First known defense of this belt since last October.

CMLL (MON) 07/08/2013 Arena Puebla
1) Asturiano & Fresbee vs Blue Center & Espanto Jr.
2) Leono, Pegasso, Robin, Stigma, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Disturbio, Espíritu Maligno, Inquisidor, Siki Ozama Jr., Skándalo
not listed as a cibernetico, but ten man tags usually are in CMLL.
3) Bushiroad, Diamante, Tritón vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus
4) La Máscara, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión
5) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Shocker vs Mr. Niebla, Pierroth, Último Guerrero

They teased Skandalo & Espiritu Mailgno vs Stigma this past Monday, so probably more of that here (and no new main event program until that’s resolved.)

CMLL (TUE) 07/09/2013 Arena Mexico
1) Molotov & Sensei vs Apocalipsis & Inquisidor
2) Dalis la Caribeña, Estrellita, Luna Mágica vs La Vaquerita, Tiffany, Zeuxis
3) Máscara Dorada, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Namajague, Rey Bucanero, Tiger
4) Averno vs Titán [MEX WELTER]
Averno is champion. First defense.
5) Atlantis, Máximo, Thunder vs Mr. Niebla, Niebla Roja, Pierroth

If you go with the theory that Titan, La Mascara and Rush won the trios titles more by happening to be around the week CMLL decided they needed to do a trios change, then maybe it has little effect on the outcome here. Or maybe Averno just wins to keep the titles spread out. Should be really good either way, and the tercera does not look bad either. Namajague’s worked as a Terrible replacement before.

CMLL (TUE) 07/09/2013 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Metatrón & Virgo vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
2) Leo, Starman, Stigma vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Ráfaga, Skándalo
3) Goya Kong vs Princesa Blanca
4) Guerrero Maya Jr., Hijo del Fantasma, Super Porky vs Olímpico, Psicosis, Sangre Azteca
5) Mistico, Shocker, Valiente vs Felino, Mephisto, Volador Jr.

A show!

IWL (TUE) 07/30/2013 Arena Aficion
1) Lolita, Medics III, Payaso Terror, Peligro vs Pasion Kristal, Pentagón Jr., Perico, Sexy Lady
2) Arkanos, Kid Jaguar, Shadow vs Centinela, Medics 1, Quimico Jr.
3) Argenis, Drago (AAA), Fenix (AAA) vs Freelance, Pantera I, Suicida
4) Infierno Kid, Ojo Diabólico Jr., Último Vampiro vs Aeroboy, Cíclope, Drastik Boy
5) Carta Brava Jr. I, Cerebro Negro, Fantasma de la Ópera vs Loco Max, Tony Rivera, Zumbido and Black Terry, Dinamic Black, Dr. Cerebro
6) Monster Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown vs Ángel o Demonio, León Rojo, Obett [IWL TRIOS]

Only 41 luchadors on this show, anorexic by IWL standards. IWL appears to only have one main event. Tercera could be good if given time (and everyone shows up, which is not always the case with the ex-IWRG trio.)

AAA QPPLC, IWRG, Toryumon, Caneks vs Wagners

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AAA QPPLC (SUN) 10/14/2012 Centro Expositor, Puebla [Estrellas del Ring]
1) Mini Psicosis, Semental, Sexy Star b Dinastía, Fenix, Jennifer Blake
2) Cuervo, Escoria, Ozz b Daga, El Elegido, Pimpinela Escarlata
3) Electroshock, Jack Evans, Vampiro b Chessman, Silver King, Zorro

Weird teams appear to just be who ever was around.

This stop did a big crowd. 4,458 stopped by on Saturday, 7,908 on Sunday. Trainers were El Apache, Fabi Apache, Brazo and Konnan, and judges were Zorro, Silver King, and Chessman. 50 luchadors tried out.

advancing to the year end final

  • Apolo Estrada Jr. (former Monterrey guy who worked in openers in CMLL in 2009-2011 and IWRG in 2011. Last seen in Acapulco.)
  • Lucky Boy (DTU Academy, has also trained with the Navarros, Puebla indy wrestler, finalist from Puebla last year)
  • Blazer (Arena Aficion regular for a while, advanced to finalist last year, ended up in Silver King’s Wagner Promotions)
  • Paloma Rouse (new DTU girl, originally from Veracruz)
  • Niño Hamburguesa (DTU cult favorite)
  • Rey Celestial (Puebla indy wrestler)
  • Rocky Lobo (DTU trainee, originally part of the Super Crazy group of kid luchadors which produced Dinastia)
  • Astro de Plata (IWRG trainee)
  • Bárbaro I (ex-Arena Puebla local, now Puebla indy, advanced to final last year)
  • Bárbaro II (Puebla indy)
  • Jinzo (??)
  • Hey Lex (?? – from Puebla) – spelled Hycharius here.

Next QPPLC sessions in Guadalajara on November 10/11th. It’s a few weeks before Guerra de Titanes, and the last preliminary round before the final on December 8.

IWRG (SUN) 10/14/2012 Arena Naucalpan [IWRG]
1) Astro Rey Jr. & Johnny Rivera b Epidemia & Star Boy Jr.
Star Boy is back as a rudo, Astro Rey is just back. Straight falls for the tecnicos, though the rudos dominated most of the match.
2) Dinamic Black & Freelance b Comando Negro & Jack
Yack is back as a rudo, replacing Impossible. Tecnicos took 2/3, Freelance winning with a top rope ‘rana on Comando Negro. Money thrown back in the ring.
3) Factor, Freyser, Rayan DQ Carta Brava Jr., Oficial 911, Oficial AK47
Freyser replaced Carta Brava I. Rudos took 2/3, Factor tossing his mask to AK47 for the DQ.
4) el Ángel, Pantera, Veneno vs Scorpio Jr., Violencia Jr., Zumbido
Tecnicos took 2/3. Violencia Jr. wants a title match with Angel, but it was Veneno who beat Violencia Jr. with a senton for the win. Money thrown in the ring.
5) Hijo de Máscara Año 2000 & Pirata Morgan b Cien Caras Jr. & Hijo de Pirata Morgan [Relevos Increíbles]
family didn’t want to fight finally, but the Hijo de Pirata/Cien team jumped the opposition and took the first. Fans yelled at the teams until they fought their usual partner. Pirata Sr./Hijo de Mascara rallied back to take second. Factor was doing a ringside interview in the third, and Hijo de Pirata & Cien attacked him. Third fall saw Pirata Sr. beat Cien and Mascara beat Hijo de Pirata with a top rope powerbomb. Factor came for revenge with a chair, setting up another triangle match with Hijo de Pirata and Hijo de Mascara

This show may air tonight on AYM Sports.

Toryumon Mexico (SUN) 10/14/2012 Sala de Armas Magdalena Mixhuca [Estrellas del Ring]
1) AGU, Dowki, Hanaoka b Akuma 3:16, Celestik I, Celestik II
Japan vs Mexico
2) Dalis la Caribeña & Mima Shimoda b Goya Kong & Muñeca De Plata
the Brazo sisters teamed, but lost.
3) El Hijo del Medico Asesino, Hijo del Signo, Taurus b Magnus, Mr. Rolling, Platino
Hijo de Medico Asesino pulled Magnus’ mask and cradled him for the iwn.
4) Astral b Demus 3:16 [DF LIGHT]
Astral won the title in Demus’ first known defense. Demus demanded a rematch.
5) Negro Casas & Último Guerrero b Hijo del Fantasma & Último Dragón
Negro snuck in a foul on Ultimo Dragon

This was the benefit show from Electrico, who was hurt at the previous Toryumon show.

Astral and Demus rematch in a lightning match in Puebla tonight.

UWE (SUN) 10/14/2012 Arena Lopez Mateos [Estrellas del Ring, MT]
1) Beda, Oberón, Spider Boy b Antheus, Pakal, Striker
2) Ángel de la Noche, Ángel Del Amor, Yuki Dragon b Herejía, Judas el Traidor, Psicópata
3) Cerebro Maligno, Chucho el Roto, Iron Love, Rey Krimen b Black Lemus, Robin Maravilla, Rocky Santana, Yakuza
Rocky and Yakuza want a title match versus Iorn Love & Chucho el Roto
4) Esther Moreno, Rossy Moreno, Taya Valkyrie b Big Mama, Felina Metalika, La Vaquerita
straight falls. Big Mama and Felina Metalika replaced Keira, Taya joined the Morenos.
5) Negro Navarro, Trauma I, Trauma II b Eterno, Oriental, Super Crazy
6) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. DQ Canek & Canek Jr.
Caneks took the first, Wagners the second. Both tried martinetes in the last, and Canek yanked off Dr. Wagner Jr.’s mask when trying to martinete Canek Jr. for the DQ. Caneks just took all the Wagner masks after the match and challenged for the UWA title.

Hector Garza is off this weekend’s AAA show in Arena Coliseo Monterrey. Zumbi takes his place. Garza seems to have an odd illness which prevents him wrestling except for Heroes Inmortales. I’m sure this will be resolved one way or another.

The third part of Dorian and Konnan’s interview is here. I’m listening to this as I type this, but I forgot the link!

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No one stains Rayo’s name quite like Rayo does.

Fantasy says he told everyone he was going to win, no one believed him, but now he’s got Mercurio’s mask and he wants a title match next.

Rob has highlights of 03/23/12 CMLL.

Links

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IWRG (THU) 10/18/2012 Arena Naucalpan
1) Johnny Rivera vs Matrix Jr.
2) Amazona, Centvrión, Voladorcito vs Bracito De Plata, Imposible, La Sádica
3) Carta Brava Jr., Freyser, La Cobra vs Carta Brava, Comando Negro, Tóxico
4) el Ángel, Tony Rivera, Veneno vs Alan Extreme, Black Terry, Heddi Karaoui
5) Negro Navarro, Trauma I, Trauma II vs Bestia 666, Damián 666, Eterno

Carta Brava Jr., who’s tagline is that he’s the best rudo, appears to be a tecnico in his feud now.

CMLL (SUN) 10/21/2012 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala & Leono vs Inquisidor & Zayco
2) Ángel Azteca Jr., Pegasso, Sensei vs Cancerbero, Hooligan, Raziel
3) Bam Bam vs Pequeño Olímpico [lightning]
4) Rey Cometa, Sagrado, Triton vs Hijo del Signo, Misterioso Jr., Vangelis
5) Marco Corleone, Máscara Dorada, Super Porky vs Felino, Pólvora, Tiger
6) Atlantis, Blue Panther, Diamante Azul vs Tama Tonga, Terrible, Volador Jr.

If he shows, it’s Bam Bam’s first match since June. The minis mentioned a month back that he was cleared to returned but frozen out on a return date.

Announcers have been calling Tonga “Samoan Terrible”. They’ll team with Volador here.

CMLL (SUN) 10/21/2012 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Brillante vs Sádico
2) Black Metal & Javier Cruz Jr. vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
3) El Divino & Máscara Mágica vs Demonio Maya & Ráfaga
4) Eros, Gallo, Leo vs Bárbaro Cavernario, In Memoriam, Infierno
5) Hijo del Fantasma, Máximo, Valiente vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Niebla Roja, Sangre Azteca

Dragon Rojo pinned Hijo del Fantasma with his feet on the ropes yesterday, but Fantasma still wants a title match.

DTU, Piratas vs Brazos, Puebla

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Dark Angel & Hormiga/photo by Black Terry

DTU (SUN) 05/22/2011 Arena Lopez Mateos [Al Filo del Ring, Black Terry Jr. (flickr), Estrellas del Ring, R de Rudo]
***Desafio***
1) Violento Jack b Kaleth, Pequeno Cobra, Jhonky, Radical, Hacker
Violento Jack is stuck with the trainees, but at least he won.
2) Arana de Plata Jr., Ashley, Megan b Garra de Aguila, Vanely, Yuki Star
Garra de Aguila was strechered out.
3) Keira, Máscara Oriental, Zairus b Lily Fighter, Trauma I, Trauma II
Chucho el Roto & Yakuza ran in to distract the Traumas (AULL Tag Team title issues!) setting up their loss. Lily Fighter almost killed herself on a dive.
4) Daga b Flamita, Ciclope, Eterno, Yakuza, Pesadilla, Hormiga, Black Fire, Masivo, Chucho el Roto
Daga beat Eterno. Violento Jack hit the ring after the match, angry about being demoted to the opener.
5) Zumbi DRAW Sick Boy
No word on how they got to the draw, but everyone seems unhappy with this the non-ultraviolentness of this match. (“A mockery of the public”)
6) Drastik Boy b Aero Boy, Judas el Traidor, Paranoiko, Muerte Bucanera, Shitara, Dement Xtreme
Big win for Drastick Boy, beating Aeroboy. Judas and Aero left injuried.
7) Chica Tormenta & Dark Angel b La Vaquerita & Princesa Sujei
Dark Angel’s team won clean. Chica Tormenta and Princesa Sujei feuded after the match

Get the vibe this show did not go well, even outside Zumbi/Sick Boy. DTU posted a note sort of apologizing for the show quality, promising the next show (07/02) will be better. Nice bit of candor.

IWRG (SUN) 05/22/2011 Arena Naucalpan [The Gladiatores]
1) Saruman b Alan Extreme
2) Dinamic Black & Golden Magic DRAW El Imposible & El Pollo Asesino
Rudos took the first, tecnicos the second. Dinamic Black put Pollo in a tapatia, and leaned him forward for the double pin.
3) Avisman, Comando Negro, Oficial AK47 b Centurión, Freelance, Multifacético
Rudos won 1/3 clean.
4) Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan b El Brazo & Hijo del Brazo [IWRG IC TAG]
Straight fall win for the champs, though not without issue. Piratas cheated the Brazos frequently in the first fall, until El Brazo got annoyed and tried to foul Pirata Sr. He was caught for the DQ. Piratas got away with their own foul in the second fall to sweep.
5) Fresero Jr., Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Oficial 911 DQ Drago (AAA), Electroshock, Veneno
Tecnicos took the first, rudos the second, Electroshock was DQed for a chair shot on 911.

CMLL (MON) 05/23/2011 Arena Puebla [Cinco Radio]
3) Cancerbero, Euforia, Raziel b Ángel de Plata, Delta, Fuego
4) Ephesto, Mephisto, Misterioso Jr. b Sagrado, Stuka Jr., Valiente
Sagrado was stretchered out.
5) Atlantis, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas b La Máscara, La Sombra, Strong Man
Mr. Niebla did appear, and Peste Negra was with him. After the heavy feuding in previous weeks, it sounds like the tecnicos just won clean, taking the last two falls. La Mascara put Negro in the campana in the third.

Shocker, promoting his new restaurant, says he’s hoping to be back a month. That makes the lineups plugging Shocker’s return last Friday odder still.

CMLL’s put out press about the CMLL Super Lightweight tournament, though there’s no mention of who’s in next week’s block. The two blocks will be fought in ciberenticos. Picking favorites depends on which of CMLL’s multiple personalities is in charge of this tournament, and that’s always unknown. I’d rate Hijo del Signo, Palacio Negro and Guerrero Maya as the favorites, Rey Cometa, Magnus, Hombre Bala as the next group and Inqusidior and Trueno as highly unlikely.  I’m going to pick Palacio Negro because I like Palacio Negro and Maya has other things to do and there’s not much more to go on.

My guess at next week’s sides: Metal Blanco, Delta, Puma King, Tiger Kid, Angel de Plata, Fuego, Pegasso and Bobby Zavala. I figure Angel de Oro, Diamante and Polvora are above this title, Rey Escorpion is too big, and Dragon Lee is still injured. I would have Yoshihashi in this tournament, just because it’s supposed to be a world championship so you might as well include one non-Mexican, but I think he’s trying to be a non-Super Lightweight. Angel Azteca Jr. was the runner up last time, but seems completely forgotten and a long shot to even make it in.

Jeff Jarrett continues to threaten that TNA will replace AAA, which is nice because it’ll give me two less hours of TV to recap a week. He’s a swell guy. Also, Rob Van Dam says “Doctor Wagner Junior” and appears to think he’s on Sesame Street. I do totally now want to see Dr. Wagner punch RVD in the face, mission accomplished!

Rob has a post on like a dozen different things. Also August ’95 AAA highlights and a great Rey Misterio highlight

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Links

Lineups

CMLL (SUN) 05/29/2011 Arena Coliseo
1) Freesbe & Principe vs Artillero & Ramstein
2) Guerrero Maya Jr., Hombre Bala Jr., Super Halcon Jr. vs Hooligan, Rayo Tapatío I, Rayo Tapatío II
3) Ángel Azteca Jr., Ángel de Plata, Sensei vs Dr. X, Nitro, Skándalo
4) Black Warrior, Metro, Valiente vs Euforia, Mephisto, Vangelis
5) Blue Panther, Strong Man, Super Porky vs El Alebrije, Psicosis, Shinsuke Nakamura

Main event needs to be built around Shinsuke Nakamura/Cuije spots.

I wonder how the person booking the Rayos vs Bala/Maya storyline feels about no longer being on TV. I wonder if CMLL will ever tell us what Dragon Lee’s injury is.

What we know about Dr. Wagner’s status, at the moment

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typing this knowing it may be irrelevant at any moment

Doctor Wagner Junior is without an AAA contract. He signed a one year deal in the run up to last year’s TripleMania and worked this year’s TripleMania without one. AAA put the AAA World Heavyweight title on him to keep him happy and get him to stay, and were under the belief he’d be signing a two year deal contact, and possibly an additional one to lose his mask.

AAA was unaware Wagner was showing up in Nuevo Laredo, finding out around the same time as everyone else. Dorian Roldan and Dos de Tres have noted the situation, but haven’t strongly reacted to it. (Dorian’s been overly magnanimous, congratulating Mistico and wishing Histeria luck for Sunday.) AAA hasn’t t buried Wagner or threatened punitive action and Dr. Wagner said he had no problem with AAA,  so he could easily end up merrily back in AAA.

Dr. Wagner Junior is not listed on any AAA spot show until the TV taping in Toluca on 07/29. AAA isn’t consistent or complete about putting out lineups, so that may not especially mean anything. Also, we’re still waiting on their Lucha Libre Expo TV taping lineup, which they’ve said will be out today.

It’s not clear how much a CMLL was a part of it; while this was a show with CMLL wrestlers, it was still one being run by the local promoter. I doubt the wrestlers would’ve let him walk out there without some understanding, but it’s not as meaningful or permanent as if the same bit was done in Arena Mexico. They might have let Wagner walk around just to prove a point in Nuevo Laredo, but he wouldn’t be allowed to do the same in Mexico City without a done deal.

The contract’s the issue. AAA’s probably going thru some issues, since we just heard about Rocky Romero leaving after the last set of taping due to a pay cut, and maybe that’s an issue with Wagner’s deal as well. However, CMLL hasn’t been handing out great deals either. About a month ago, the WON mentioned CMLL had major cutbacks in wrestler’s deals, taking everyone besides five (Mistico, Ultimo Guerrero, Shocker, Negro Casas, Hector Garza + outsiders) off guaranteed contracts and back to being paid via (low) percentage of the house. There are always different better deals available to top guys jumping from one company to another, but it’s not a profitable time to be a luchador.

There’s also the possibility of Dr. Wagner going back to the indies for some time, as he did between his last CMLL stint and this time in AAA. There’s much fewer options now than there were in the independents a year and a half ago – Los Perros are almost done, EAW is barely running shows, Monterrey is quiet, he may be locked out of Arena Naucalpan due to their deal with AAA – but Wagner coming off AAA TV with the title will have tons of promoter interest. It could be like what’s happened with Bryan Danielson’s schedule, but ten fold. Wagner would also be a great addition to the MTV2 Masked Warriors group. They already have all that AAA footage with him!

With the AAA video game not out for three months, Slang and AAA could certainly change the cover, and they had mock ups for alternate Parka/Elegido/Silver King covers at E3. If he left, Dr. Wagner would become the eleventh guy currently listed in AAA’s video game who has quit the company, one quarter of the video game roster.

07/12 CMLL in Nuevo Laredo Results (Oriental loses his mask to Mistico)

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CMLL Gutierrez (MON) 07/12 Plaza de Toros Lauro Luis Longoria [@ENRIQUEYNIESTA]
1) Mini Alebrije, Mini Cibernetico, Mini Oriental b Astral, Mascarita Dorada, Shockercito
2) Lady Apache, Lluvia, Marcela DQ Rossy Moreno, Sexy Flor, Tiffany
3) Ephesto, Mephisto, Rey Bucanero DQ Charly Manson, Juventud Guerrera, Mr. Águila
4) Hijo de LA Park, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Scorpio Jr. DQ La Máscara, Máscara Dorada, Valiente
5) Héctor Garza, Terrible, Texano b Jushin Lyger, Shigeo Okumura, Yoshihashi
6) Místico & Oriental L Atlantis & Olímpico and Averno & Último Guerrero and El Alebrije & Volador Jr. and Histeria & La Sombra [ruleta de la muerte]
7) Místico b Oriental [mask]

Oriental is Noe Astro Moreno Leon, according to CMLL Magazine. (Astro?) He’s 37, 17 years a wrestler. No photo as I type this, but I’m sure we’ll see one later.

Order of escape went Sombra & Histeria (who’s now free to put his mask up on Sunday), Alebrije & Volador, Averno & Ultimo Guerrero, and Atlantis & Olimpico. Mistico beat Oriental in what seemed like a longer match than the entire eliminations prior.

The big news from the rest of the show was the appearance of Dr. Wagner Junior. It was hinted early this morning by SuperLuchas, and was revealed a few hours before the show by Box Y Lucha. He appeared after the fourth match, first posing with his son, then circling around in the ring, all while wearing his AAA World Heavyweight Championship belt (he also had the video game belt.) When he went to the ring and posed, everyone was under the impression this meant Wagner had left AAA and was joining CMLL as an Invader. Upon returning to the locker room, Dr. Wagner instead told the press that he was on good terms with AAA, and everyone backed off saying he was leaving.

People who are on good terms with a company do not show up at a major show for a rival promotion, being as visible as possible. (And CMLL isn’t going to let Wagner be part of the show unless they wanted him to be part of the show.) Wagner may end up staying with AAA, uninterrupted, but this was a very petulant move to make a point; AAA’s treated him as an afterthought to the Perros del Mal entry, the Parka/Park story, and the Legion stuff, and Wagner has always felt he should always be on top. That seems to be the wrestling he grew up with – in the UWA, Canek doesn’t seem to have ever been cycled down the card or bypassed much; he was either the top rudo feuding with the top tecnico, or the top tecnico feuding with the foreign guy. That’s spot doesn’t really exist in either promotion, but Wagner can sure come close by jumping back and forth between them like this.

This bit was also totally hilarious. For most of the night, AAA only response was an enigmatic tweet from Lucha Libre AAA, which is so unspecific, it may have nothing to do with any of this. Later, Dorian Roldan seemed surprised, generally the same reaction as everyone else, though his post gives the impression Wagner left.

Dr. Wagner is not listed on any lineups from now until the Toluca taping, though he’s almost surely scheduled to be on the Lucha Libre Expo show, and there’s probably other lineups AAA hasn’t put on it’s website. At the point, the expectation is he’ll still be working AAA shows, but it’s a fluid situation. We’ll know more soon. This would be a fantastic time for Cesar to come back from his blog vacation.

If we’ve been reminded of anything, anything at all, from La Parka vs LA Park, is that people remember what they saw in the ring and not what was said later. Tonight, Wagner made people believe he’s jumped to CMLL, and interviews aren’t going to undo that.

Not a lot of noteworthy material on the show. Tiffany was the mystery woman for the Invaders. At the time of the press conference, she was still working AAA spot shows, which is probably the reason they kept it quiet. Not sure if this means anything for her brother, ex-Night Queen Jessy, who’s also working AAA spot shows without making TV in years. Tiffany was a big part of AAA in the mid 2000s, but really hasn’t been used much since Pena’s death and since she left to have a kid. She was still good, last we saw her, and would fit in well in CMLL if that’s why she and they want to do.

The first four matches all did have non-clean finishes. Mini Cibernetico broke the law by removing Dorada’s mask before pinning him, but was not charged with the crime. No specific word on the DQ in the second match, but it probably was for one of the rudas pulling Lluvia’s mask. DQ in the tercera was for Ephesto taking off his own mask and tossing it. (Mephisto hurt a knee in this one.) DQ in the cuatro was for Scorpio (Solitario replacement) fouling and unmasking Mascara. Japan vs Renegados finished clean, we think.

Before the opener, Enrique pegged the crowd as 10,000, 80% of capacity. It’s possible it filled up a bit more as the show went on. The show was to be taped for television, but there were lots of pre-show issues – many guys only made it last minute, and the lights were late – so who knows.