taped 2011-10-28 @ Arena Mexico
a midcard trios match that felt long, and a title match that definitely did not
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CMLL (TUE) 11/08/2011 Arena Mexico [CMLL, Record]
1) Mercurio & Pequeño Universo 2000 b Aereo & Pequeño Halcón
2) Bronco, Hooligan, Inquisidor b Molotov, Starman, Tigre Blanco
3) Ángel Azteca Jr., Mr. Cacao, Pegasso DQ Arkángel de la Muerte, Loco Max, Skándalo
straight falls for the tecnicos, rudos fouling Cacao in the second. He and the Tuareg fought more after the match. Angel Azteca Jr. replaced Sangre Azteca.
4) El Alebrije, Histeria Psicosis, Olímpico b Delta, Hijo del Fantasma, Toscano
5) Héctor Garza, La Máscara, Rush DQ Averno, Terrible, Texano
Mascara beat Averno again. Problem was, Averno was not captain this week. Mascara had Texano in the campana, but Averno ran in and yanked off his mask. Terrible replaced Ultimo Guerrero, Hector Garza replaced Shocker.
Averno was also listed as working Guadalajara, so perhaps Ultimo ended up there?
A fresh round of “Averno is about to debut in WWE” rumors were going around yesterday. There’s nothing new to those; these were based on people misunderstanding a conversation they may not have even heard themselves. What happened was, in talking about the Epico/Hunico attack on Sin Cara on last week’s SmackDown! on a WrestlingObserver podcast, Bryan Alvarez guessed that maybe it was setting up Averno coming in as Sin Cara’s tag partner. It was only one of a few names Bryan suggested – Bryan Danielson was another – but he was not trying to report anything, just trying to see if the puzzle pieces would fit together. This week on SmackDown!, without spoiling anything, it’s no longer a 1 on 2 feud and doesn’t seem to be setting up a 2 on 2 tag feud. Nothing that happens necessarily means Averno is debuting in WWE imminently.
We do know Averno did agree to come in to WWE back before his mask match, did work out for WWE when they were in Mexico, and is a bit anxious to finally make the move he thought he was happening months ago. If you’re looking for signs, this title feud with Mascara is a better one – Averno’s s definitely losing this title and losing a big match to La Mascara before he leaves, and this could take care of both of those requirements. Still, whenever I’ve figured Averno is losing a title this summer, he manages to keep it and stick around. Plus, even if he loses this one, he still has the CMLL Trios titles to lose to before he goes. Don’t start assuming he’s showing up in WWE before he loses both of those titles.
Mr. Cacao says he met with Paco Alonso about coming in for more shows.
Other News
AAA announced their TV schedule for Saturday: It’s all matches from Xalapa, but they’ve broken them up over the two TV different Televisa shows:
Regional Broadcast (3-5p): matches 1, 2, 3, 4
National Broadcast (4-5p): matches 4, 5
La Parka, Jack, Fenix vs Cibernetico, Scoria and Billy is the match being shown on both shows, which makes a lot of sense with La Parka’s turn being the most important bit on the taping. And, assuming this is the plan going forward, it explains why they’re taping six matches going forward; no repeat that way. The obvious problem is the two shows are airing at the same time. The only way this makes sense is if there’s two difference audiences watching two different shows, but then why would you just not air the main event on the regional show if you don’t think those people are going to watch the national one?
AAA is silly, but usually not this silly. My hunch is there’s something Televisa involved in here, but AAA would be much better off if they could get either the regional show to start one hour earlier, or the national show to start one hour later, and avoid the overlap entirely. CMLL has done the same thing a lot – the FOX show will run up against the main Televisa show from time to time – but it’s two different networks there. This is the same one fighting against itself.
Tiffany talks about her injury rehab to CMLL. When she left, her shoulder injury was attributed to Goya Kong. Now that she’s about to come back and needs someone to feud with it, it’s all Estrellita’s fault.
Daga says he was only in AAA for the one show, “I can not say for whether or not I’m in AAA”. That’s more him being unsure what AAA wants to do with him. Daga mentions IWL, Lucha POP, but not so much the Quien Por Para La Corona.
La Catederal reminds people that Apolo Dantes was not seen as some great man when he was removed from running Arena Coliseo Guadalajara a few years ago, and shouldn’t be seen as some sort of savior coming back. The big changes need to happen elsewhere.
The main event of the next DTU show will be LA Park vs Joe Lider vs Super Mega.
DJ Spectro writes about his friend, Septiembre Negro.
Magnus says he’ll be back at Arena Mexico soon, wearing
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CMLL (SUN) 11/13/2011 Arena Mexico
1) Bengala, Höruz, Robin vs Camorra, Cholo, Zayco
2) Dragon Lee, Metálico, Sensei vs Cancerbero, Nosferatu, Raziel
3) Diamante, Metro, Sangre Azteca vs Rey Escorpion, Shigeo Okumura, Yoshihashi
4) Blue Panther, Héctor Garza, Super Porky vs Averno, Mephisto, Volador Jr.
5) Rush vs Terrible [CMLL LH]
Fan Appreciation show. The builds are just getting shorter; this is a one week setup. I don’t know if the main event will be any good, but I’m interesting in them having a try at it.
I want to start a weekly post where we come up with names for vitally important groups (or moves) that no one’s gotten around to naming. High on the list of items that need names: the evil axis of Camorra, Zayco, Cholo and Disturbio (maybe?), who only seem to be teaming with each other.
CMLL (TUE) 11/15/2011 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Javier Cruz Jr. vs Thunder Boy
2) Leo & Robin vs Artillero & Súper Comando
3) Bam Bam vs Pequeño Violencia [lightning]
4) Gallo, Metal Blanco, Palacio Negro vs Misterioso Jr., Puma King, Tiger
5) Atlantis, Hijo del Fantasma, Toscano vs El Alebrije, Mr. Águila, Psicosis
Another fun looking Guadalajara show. That’s two straight weeks for the Cats vs Joven Tapatios, so there’s probably another combination of the four in a title match coming up here.
They haven’t teamed up Puma & Tiger in Mexico since their falling out (for the El Luchador show), but they’ve been ignoring that in Guadalajara. I prefer ignoring it.
taped 2011-10-30 @ Arena Coliseo
Black Warrior, Super Porky, Toscano vs Averno, Mephisto, Pólvora
Atlantis, Héctor Garza, La Sombra vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Terrible, Texano
Neither match was that interesting. Opener was almost all a tecnico showcase with tecnicos I’m not particularly interested in. I don’t know what Black Warrior has a rudo, but he doesn’t seem to have a lot left as a tecnico. Main event was a very usual match between the teams. It is odd how much more angry the rudos are at Atlantis for turning then Garza. They did it at the same time, but I guess Hector has no friends.
taped 2011-10-25 @ Arena Mexico
Freesbe & Robin vs Camorra & Zayco: download 1 youtube
Metatrón, Sensei, Starman vs Apocalipsis, Bronco, Inquisidor: download 2 youtube
Ayumi, Estrellita, Luna Mágica vs La Seductora, Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sugheit: download 3 youtube
Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Rey Escorpion, Último Guerrero: download 4 youtube
Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Texano vs Héctor Garza, La Máscara, Super Porky: download 5 youtube
recap
All generally okay but unramarkable and pretty much unnoteworthy matches. Nothing awful, but nothing that felt like I really needed to talk about it afterwards or had especially made great use of my time. One of those shows where I start wondering if I’m burn out or if the show is just that uninteresting, then belatedly realize I’ve missed the comeback spot. The Guerreros/Justiceros trios was the best match, but even that was more interesting a couple months ago.
LyC (SUN) 11/06/2011 Arena Coliseo Monterrey [RFC]
1) Black Poison & Core b Drako & Exterminio
2) Artillero (MTY) & Demencia b Maravilla Azteca Jr. & Rey Orion
3) Gemelo Muerte I, Gemelo Muerte II, Misionero b Dralion, Gato Fantasma, Silencio
4) Golden Boy, Rey Demonio Jr., Simbolo b Hijo del Ninja, Ninja, Ninja Jr.
Rudos took 2/3. Simbolo tried to recruit Hijo del Ninja before the match. Hijo del Ninja did not agree, but had problems with the rest of his family during the match, and Ninja banned him from appearing at next week’s show.
5) Angel Dorado Jr., Big Neurosis, Máscara Púrpura b Androide, Furor, Genocida
No full results from Puebla yet. Pictures indicate rudos won the semifinal and final. Twitter messages last night said Sagrado was hurt in his match.
The rumor of Apolo Dantes taking back over management of Arena Coliseo Guadalajara were right on; Dantes announced he was back in charge on a radio show earlier today, replacing Pato Soria. He also suggested the Sunday shows would include independent wrestlers. Dr. Lucha has been saying CMLL may actually sell Arena Coliseo Guadalajara and withdraw from promoting there. If Dantes is actually bringing in independent wrestlers for Sunday shows, that probably means CMLL talent is at least withdrawing from those shows.
The explanation for the Hijo de Rey Misterio vs Hijo de Rey Misterio feud is the original suffered a knee injury, so his cousin (Horus, probably not really his cousin) took his place, but now the original wants his gimmick back.
Rob has highlights of 11/02/10 CMLL, 11/09/10 CMLL, 11/12/10 CMLL, 11/15/10 Puebla, and 04/30/10 AAA, 10/25/11 CMLL,
LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.
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IWRG (THU) 11/10/2011 Arena Naucalpan
1) Kevin & Ojo de Tigre Jr. vs Imposible & Rambo Jr.
2) Centurión & Tritón vs Alan Extreme & Bizarro
3) Bugambilia del Norte, Dinamic Black, Saruman vs Carta Brava Jr., Comando Negro, Eterno
4) Golden Magic, Pantera, Zumbi vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Avisman, King Drako
5) Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan vs Silver Kain, Tabú, Último Gladiador
Both IWRG lineups via KrisZ. Tabu wrestled in IWRG far more than he wrestles in AAA (where he hasn’t been mentioned since being beaten up and stretchered out at Verano de Escandao.) He did end up with the IWRG heavyweight title, so this is likely a set up to someone (Mascara Ano?) facing him for it.
Comando Negro sticking around is a slight surprise. Eterno wanted to move to the rudo side previously.
LyC (SUN) 11/13/2011 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Core, Demencia, Scravos vs Kratos, Maravilla Azteca Jr., Rey Imagen
2) Ninja & Ninja Jr. vs Hijo Del Mongol Chino & Mongol Chino
3) Dralion, Gato Fantasma, Silencio vs Gemelo Muerte I, Gemelo Muerte II, Misionero
4) Big Neurosis, Golden Boy, Simbolo vs Genocida, Máscara Púrpura, Rico Rodriguez
family vs family in the second match, rematch of a well received match in the third.
IWRG (SUN) 11/13/2011 Arena Naucalpan
1) Oficial AK47 vs Alan Extreme, Apolo Estrada Jr., Avisman, Black Terry, Carta Brava Jr., Centurión, Chico Che, Cien Caras Jr., Comando Negro, Dinamic Black, Eragón, Eterno, Oficial Fierro, Freeyser, Golden Magic, El Hijo del Diablo, Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Imposible, Machín, Máscara Año 2000, Multifacético, Oficial 911, Pirata Morgan, Oficial Rayan, Oficial Spartan, Trauma I, Trauma II, Zumbi, Bugambilia del Norte [Rey del Ring, #1 Contenders]
The annual sort-of-Rumble match. Last Rey del Ring is Pantera; the winner should get a shot at him. They usually sneak in a tag match as an opener, but it’s mostly a big tournament.
CMLL (MON) 11/14/2011 Arena Puebla
1) Stigma & Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Policeman & Siki Ozama Jr.
2) Lady Apache, Luna Mágica, Marcela vs La Comandante, Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sugheit
3) Dragon Lee, Fuego, Pegasso vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Skándalo, Virus
4) Black Warrior, Blue Panther, Sagrado vs Ephesto, Misterioso Jr., Pólvora
5) Hijo del Fantasma, La Máscara, Shocker vs Averno, Mephisto, Último Guerrero
6) Máscara Dorada vs Dragón Rojo Jr.
Those two have had a few singles matches. After his title win last Friday, Mascara Dorada (likely jokingly) noted he’s learned a lot this year, including a pretty submission hold. That was the armbar he used to win last week; maybe Dragon Rojo needs to be ready for it here.
AAA is still in repeats. ACM was a repeat.
El Luchador 1X3
http://www.multiupload.com/9RGG16I7BA
La Luchas: 2011-11-01
taped 2011-09-20 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
http://www.multiupload.com/3Y9YNH95HG
1) Pierrothito vs Bam Bam for the Mexican National Lightweight Championship
taped 2011-07-26 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
2) Dragon Lee, Hombre Bala Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Hijo del Signo, Rey Escorpion
taped 2011-08-02 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
3) Metal Blanco, Palacio Negro, Sangre Azteca vs Cancerbero, Loco Max, Virus
taped 2011-09-27 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
4) Héctor Garza, Máximo, Shocker vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Texano
(Only the main event is ‘new’)
CMLL on Televisa: 2011-11-05
taped 2011-10-28 @ Arena Mexico
http://www.multiupload.com/23GQH4USWY
1) Dragon Lee, Sangre Azteca, Valiente vs Shigeo Okumura, Virus, Yoshihashi
2) Amapola vs Marcela for the CMLL World Women’s Championship
CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2011-11-05
taped 2011-10-30 @ Arena Coliseo
http://www.multiupload.com/72H00R7NEL
1) Black Warrior, Super Porky, Toscano vs Averno, Mephisto, Pólvora
2) Atlantis, Héctor Garza, La Sombra vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Terrible, Texano
CMLL on Teleformula: 2011-11-06
http://www.multiupload.com/7OFH8V6PFO – fixed!
(website link not working)
taped 2011-06-07 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Eléctrico vs Demus 3:16
taped 2011-10-04 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
2) Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Cancerbero, Euforia, Pólvora
3) La Sombra, Rush, Shocker vs Mr. Águila, Olímpico, Psicosis
CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2011-11-05
taped 2011-10-28 @ Arena Mexico
1) Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas vs Blue Panther, Jushin Lyger, Rush
http://www.multiupload.com/NCRRG3SBB9
2) Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto vs Héctor Garza, La Sombra, Máscara Dorada
http://www.multiupload.com/RTMNTBBQXN
CMLL on CadenaTres: 2011-11-05
taped 2011-11-01 @ Arena Mexico
1) Astral, Eléctrico, Último Dragoncito vs Demus 3:16, Pequeño Nitro, Pierrothito
http://www.multiupload.com/ONSVOMTBCE
2) Diamante, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Loco Max, Nitro, Skándalo
http://www.multiupload.com/34F3DBW57P
3) Delta, Máximo, Super Porky vs El Alebrije, Olímpico, Shigeo Okumura
http://www.multiupload.com/AMQPMXWTDE
4) La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush vs Averno, Psicosis, Volador Jr.
http://www.multiupload.com/XVIZQ85F7A