CMLL on Teleformula: 2011-11-19

taped 2011-10-18 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara

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The big news: overly excited dancing edecan really frizzed out her hair. There was also another Hector Garza match.

if you can get someone to obey the stop sign, this is a better idea than stripping

Diamante, Guerrero Maya Jr., Sagrado vs Pólvora, Shigeo Okumura, Yoshihashi: Match was fine, even with a little part that got odd in the third fall. The real weird part is it was pretty obviously supposed to be setting up Sagrado challenging Okumura for the Occidente LH title, so much that the announcers even picked up on it. It would’ve explained the whole deal with Gallo losing twice; Sagrado being used as local GDL hero is a good role for him. Except, these two haven’t met again in Guadalajara since. Plan got changed when management did? This is the second random Sagrado/Okumura feud to pop up out of nowhere and go right back there; someone must think it’s a swell idea, but that person doesn’t seem to have enough power to get it done.

metaphor?

Héctor Garza, Hijo del Fantasma, Toscano vs Mr. Águila, Terrible, Texano: definition of a by the numbers match. Not a bad match, but one where they’re just doing the same bits they’ve done many times before until they can be done with this and onto whatever’s next.

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Guerrero keep their titles, bodybuilding contest, Texano Jr., WWE

CMLL (MON) 11/21/2011 Arena Puebla [Cinco RadioEs Imagen (top 2)Porra Fresa]
1) Lestat & Stigma b Arissma & Espiritu Maligno
Tecnicos take 1/3.
2) Dragon Lee, Fuego, Pegasso b Arkángel de la Muerte, Skándalo, Virus
Dragon Lee and Virus feuded throughout. Tecnicos took 1/3, Lee 450 splash on Virus for the win. They agreed on a lightweight title match next week.
3) El Alebrije, Olímpico, Psicosis b Black Warrior, Máximo, Valiente
Valiente pulled a Blue Panther, submitting Psicosis for a surprise early finish to the first fall. Rudos came back to win the last two, Olimpico cradling warrior and Cuije splashing Maximo.
4) Atlantis, La Sombra, Rush b Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Texano
Tecnicos took 1/3.
5) Dragón Rojo Jr. & Último Guerrero b Máscara Dorada & Shocker [CMLL TAG]
Defense v8 for the champs, who took 2/3 and got the clean win in the third. Said to be a very good match.

Other News

CMLL held it’s sixth annual bodybuilding contest today. Winners
Students: Picudo Jr. won, followed by Boricua and Volcan. Those first two have turned up in IWRG.
Minis: Pequeno Olimpico, who was runner up last year. Asturiano and Zacarias were 2 & 3.
Women: Dark Angel, for the sixth straight year. Dalis and Sughiet were 2 & 3.
Beginners:  Soberano, who finished third last year. Esfinge and Tiger were 2 & 3.
Intermediate: Electrico. Electrico has won 2 of the last 3 years and second the other. Terrible & Guerrero Maya were 2 &3.
Advanced: Valiente, who takes the “Mr. CMLL” title away from Rush. Valiente was third last year. Astral, who won the intermediate last year, was runner up here, and Texano Jr. (!) was third.

Centalla de Oro and Stigma from Puebla were said to be attending the bodybuilding contest. Negro Casas also appeared.

A bit later, Texano Jr. walked over to the (nearb) Perro del Mal offices as was offically announced as the newest member. He’s reunited with his brother, Super Nova, and will start appearing for the promotion soon. Texano will wrestle at the Perros anniversary show, teaming with LA Park & and a wrestler to be announced (probably the next guy they’re trying to get to jump) versus Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Hector Garza and Damian 666. Alfredo noted that Texano Jr. looked like he had been planning to compete in the bodybuilding contest, so this might have been a very last minute decision.

For what it’s worth, the Perros del Mal seem to be hinting at going back to CMLL again. But we get this once every three months.

Quien Pinta Por La Corona announced their grand final would be 12/03 in Mexico City. And that’s all they explained about that.

La Mascara told Kaiser Sports that he sacrificed every day to win the NWA Historic Middleweight Title, and “Paco Alonso did not give it to me.” OK. He also talking about giving everything for the fans, if the building is full or if there’s ten people there.

There was a lot of lucha libre news in this week’s Wrestling Observer, though perhaps the most important news was a bit hidden in a WWE section…

As for Del Rio, McMahon has lost confidence in him according to multiple sources, and with the experiment of bringing in stars from Mexico, with the idea it hasn’t worked out as he had envisioned.

Elsewhere, Meltzer notes there were big plans for merchandising Sin Cara this holiday season, so it’s not like they’ve totally given up on Mexcians, but it also doesn’t sound like we should expect WWE to rush out and grab another luchador to replace Sin Cara.

The CMLL section itself mentions Blue Panther has been added to the programming department, and is critical of adding another person with old school views. CMLL could use some more modernization, but I think the bigger problem is the lack of conclusions; based on how many feuds have been started, built big, and then never blown off, I think it’d be a decent size surprise if CMLL actually got around to doing Negro Casas vs Blue Panther any time soon. (See: Atlantis/UG, Mephisto/Fantamsa) If Panther or anyone else can get those feuds to actually successfully conclude, they’d be a great addition to the team.

Actually, I think they should add Bucanero to the programming team, since he’s commentating on pretty much every show and probably actually knows what’s going on.

The newsletter also mentioned Hector Garza gave notice both to Paco Alonson and Chavo Lutteroth, telling them he was going to work the indies and the US, not mentioning AAA. I’m sure he’ll work those other places too. Meltzer says Garza was still on a guarantee, so CMLL were willing to let him go to get out of that deal. Garza says CMLL asked him to say, but didn’t come up with any ideas or storylines for him to stay, and CMLL feels like the Titanic right before the iceberg.

Random Box Y Lucha rumor of the day: CMLL Friday TV production has been taken over by the Vera’s, who are quietly attempting to sell it to TV Azteca. The poster says they’re trying to keep it quiet, which is exactly why you’d put it on the internet. (This is the same poster who put up the list of WWE tryouts.) If this somewhat dubious rumor comes thru, that’d mean CMLL would be off Galavision here in the United States, but perhaps on Azteca America stations and maybe AAA would get their slot back. I do believe the underlining premise – being pulled from the air for the Pan American games was the breaking point – but it’d be a shock if they actually moved the main show to another network.

Ozz & Cuervo explain that Kenzo Suzuki & the Great Muta were the greatest team of all time, so they are incredible to have beat them. The only teams in Mexico who might be able to challenge them are Chessman & Abyss (because they want those titles too) and Parka & Octagon.

LuchaWorld has Fredo on CMLL Fox Sports 08/27/11 and Mil Mascaras & Dos Caras vs Konnan & El Canek from late 80s Juarez.

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CMLL (TUE) 11/29/2011 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Javier Cruz Jr. vs Ángel del Mal
2) Ángel Azteca Jr. & Sensei vs Exterminador & Malefico
3) Dark Angel, Estrellita, Goya Kong vs Amapola, Princesa Sugheit, Tiffany
4) Pierrothito vs Bam Bam [MEX LIGHT]
5) Hijo del Fantasma, Máximo, Shocker vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Rey Escorpion, Último Guerrero

Title match should be good, again!

CMLL (TUE) 11/29/2011 Arena Mexico
1) Enrique Vera Jr. & Leono vs Bobby Zavala & Disturbio
2) Lluvia, Luna Mágica, Marcela vs La Comandante, Princesa Blanca, Zeuxis
3) Dragon Lee, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Nitro, Skándalo
4) Metro, Sagrado, Valiente vs Euforia, Misterioso Jr., Pólvora
5) Ángel de Oro, La Máscara, Rush vs Mephisto, Rey Bucanero, Terrible

RTM? Nah. The big news: Rey Cometa is back!

CMLL on Televisa: 2011-11-19

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taped 2011-11-11 @ Arena Mexico

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Dark Angel, Estrellita, Lady Apache vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany: Tiffany seems fine, but I’m not convinced I need them to feud in 2011 (and 2012). It’s nice to see Dark Angel around here – she’s been less and less here since the fans have been less and less – but she and Seductora looked a bit off at times.

Dragón Rojo Jr., Último Guerrero, Volador Jr. vs Atlantis, Jushin Lyger, La Sombra: good main event action. Main event storyline is clear (more clear than some things going on), but I’m not sure it had any major impact. Match should definitely be interesting.