CMLL booking change?

Here is the Cesar @ box y lucha post I think everyone was talking about over the weekend, re: Lizmark/Corelone fight and the Lagurenos taking over being as much real as angle. I tend not to believe a lot of what I’m reading on boards right now – the previous unrest plus the jumps gives a lot of space for people to float unsubstantiated rumors – but this does seem pretty solid.

The story goes, Ultimo Guerrero and others (generally from his home region) are angry about the way things have been going in CMLL lately (crowd, people unhappy with how they’re being used or not being used at all) and forced a change in the CMLL booking office. This was mirrored in the big angle on Friday night and also the reason none of that angle made sense given what had been going on previously.

There’s a lot more interesting posts in that thread (at least the first page; not as much as it goes on.) A couple posts down, Cesar mentions the Ultimo Guerrero led faction wants to the company to focus on using CMLL wrestler, rather than putting foreign wrestler and independent guys (Park? Wagner?) on top and not getting anything out of it. I’m sure the jumps were part of this happening; surely people are bitter that they or their friends could’ve had Alex or Shadow’s spot and wouldn’t have left (because they don’t have the safety net of going back to the US.)

Negro Casas is mentioned as one being on the out on the power struggle, which would imply he was one pushing for the international/independent guys. That would also seem to mean to me that he and Rocky are indeed going to be teaming on that NJPW tour, which is totally weird.

Speaking about those jumps: Alex Koslov explains his jump on his mySpace page. Rocky Romero talks about never liking the Grey Shadow gimmick. AAA says DGMex is neither tecnico or rudo. Which means they’re rudo.

CMLL.com updated with subs for Alex Koslov. Valiente is in the semifinal on Tuesday, Volador Jr. is in his place on Friday.

10/12: IWRG, jumps, lineups

IWRG (THU) 10/09 Arena Naucalpan [SuperLuchas #285]
1) King Drako & Nemesis IWRG b Eragon & Miss Gavitoa
2) Freelance, Pegasso Xtreme, Rey Cometa b Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro
3) Mascara Ano 2000 Jr. b Head Hunter I, Toscano, el Hijo Del Anibal, Zumbido, Hjio de Pierroth, Latino, Multifacético, Aeroman, Fuerza Guerrera [lumberjack strap match, #1, Rey De Ring]

The main event turned out to be a lumber jack strap match with eliminations in the ring and the winner facing Scorpio Jr. at some point in the future for his title. Because of the strapping, the wrestlers were more concerned with staying in the ring than winning the actual match. The indy Fuerza Aerea beat the Oficials, setting up a title match for next week.

SuperLuchas also has a big interview with Romero and Koslov abut their jumps, which is very much worth reading in it’s entirety. Romero says he was brought in to CMLL to be what amounts to be a Mistico clone (they didn’t expect him to be that over, but that’s the kind of character CMLL wanted; what does it say that CMLL felt they need to go out of the company to get this sort of character?) Once it didn’t work out, they really didn’t have any plans for him. Romero is still under the belief it’ll be Negro Casas and him teaming in NJPW, a historic CMLL/AAA team up.

Alex says jumping to AAA was the toughest decision of his career – CMLL gave him a big opportunity but they had stopped giving him anything to do and he felt like he was dying as a wrestler. (It’s funny, there’s an ESTO article which notes Alex just told them last week he wanted to win the CMLL Middleweight Title; if he actually had an opportunity to do that or something like that, I think he would’ve have jumped.) Alex had been considering going back to the US, but thinks AAA will give him more chance to grow. You only get one lifetime, so Alex didn’t want to waste it. He thanks Paco Alonso, while noting Alonso isn’t very happy with him right now. Alex says a lot of their former colleagues understand why he and Rocky did what they did.

In a Notimex article, Ultimo Guerrero explains he and others couldn’t take the Villanos beating up Panther, so they decided to do something. (So did the fans.) They’re calling the group Ola Lagunera for the moment and are inviting rudos and tecnicos to join in their war against the Villanos. Besides the guys who were together on Friday, Euforia, Misterioso II, Stuka and Dr. Wagner Jr. are mentioned as possible other members. Ultimo Guerrero admits he has no idea where this leaves him, Atlantis and the rest of the Guerreros, and they’ll have to talk about it. Skip down to the lineups for more on that. The last paragraph quotes Mephisto when they mean Ephesto, though it points out the Triad of Terror ought to be dead once more, since the Villanos and the Perros are allies.

More from Rey Misterio Jr., who must’ve had a phone conference to promote the tour he’s not even on. Rey wants to do a movie, thinks AAA and CMLL must continue to surprise and motivate the fans if they want to draw, and plans to retire…in 8 or 10 years. And that’s just from the WWE, he plans on touring Mexico (and the world) as an indepedent after that.

Accion had highlights of the CMLL main event but didn’t show a second of the post match angle. AAA was the Pachuca main event (in other words, Jack takes crazy bumps for Parka and Ciber.) Parka got Jack with an electric chair superplex, pinned him, Piero only had time to count one before Parka got up off the pin, adjusted his mask, and covered again for the three. Very odd.

ESTO talks to Dragon Rojo Jr. (the wrestler) and Dragon Rojo Jr. (the voice in the movie)

El Manana profiles Cassandro, listing the (unnamed) CHIKARA Lightweight Title as one of his biggest wins.

Blue Panther talks about the mask match and the aftermath; he thought he had that match won.

Martha Villalobos and her wrestlers are collecting canned food for hurricane relief.

Looks like all the AAA wrestlers are now off the next DTU card.

Luchaworld has KrisZ’s newest news update

Lineups

AAA (THU) 10/16 Arena Victoria De Guadalajara
1) Kal El vs the Police
2) Apocalipsis, Baby Serratos, Tony Rodriguez vs Principe Azteca, Sultan Negro, Tigre Negro
3) Roberto Paz Jr. vs Makabre
4) Joe Lider & Nicho el Millionario vs Extreme Tiger & Shyru Dragon [AAA TAG]

MAYBE results will turn up for this one, the NGX stuff shows up in ByL occasionally.

IWRG (FRI) 10/17 Arena Naucalpan
1) Halcon 2000 vs Avsiman
2) Eragon & Miss Gaviota vs Carta Brava & King Drako
3) Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro vs Freelance, Pegasso Extreme, Rey Cometa [EdM TRIOS]
4) Super Astro, Ultramán Jr., Zumbido vs Black Terry, Dr. Cerebro, Shu el Guerrero
5) El Hijo Del Santo, Groon XXX, Rayo de Jalisco Jr. vs Fuerza Guerrera, Máscara Año 2000, Universo 2000

Special Friday night show instead of the usual Thursday one.

AULL (SAT) 10/18 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Nino de Fuego, Principe Torbellino, Rey Krystal vs Antar, Black Star, Zayruz
2) Psicopata, Super Panda, Triple X vs Black Spirit, Epitafio, Herejia
3) Quimico Jr., Terry 2000, Yakuza vs Rey Krimen, Rocky Santana, Sepulturero I
4) Mictlán, Último Dragón, Valiente vs Dragon Rojo Jr., Misterioso II, Sadico
5) Antifaz del Norte, Héctor Garza, LA Park vs Mr. Niebla, Sangre Azteca, Último Guerrero

PROLLM (SUN) 10/19 Coliseo Coacalco
1) Epidemia vs Huizar, Daga, Charro, Osiris, Lobo Metalico, Aleph, Black Mormo, Judas el Traidor, Heracles, Betos Boy, Eterno, Forastero, Espejismo, Damian El Guerrero, Guman [ciber]
2) Niebla Negra I & Rudy Garduno vs Niebla Negra II & Samoth [mask, hair]
3) Axel, Tony Rivera, Valiente vs Dragon Rojo Jr., El Magnifico, Negro Navarro
4) Rey Bucanero & Último Guerrero vs Black Warrior & Terrible

Anniversary show, and not the Mr. Mexico hair match they were just building up here. Plans change.

CMLL (SUN) 10/19 Arena Coliseo
1) Sombra de Plata & Trueno vs Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Dark Angel, Goddess, Princesa Blanca vs La Seductora, Mima Shimoda, Princesa Sujei
3) Hijo del Fantasma, Mictlán, Starman vs Euforia, Nosferatu, Skandalo
4) La Máscara, La Sombra, Volador Jr. vs Averno, Satánico, Terrible
5) Blue Panther, Héctor Garza, LA Park vs Rey Bucanero, Villano IV, Villano V

Rey teaming with the Villanos is interesting with Ultimo Guerrero on the other side of the war, but then when you recall the Guerreros and the Perros aren’t supposed to be getting along previously, it just seems like someone’s not paying attention when booking. Panther teaming with two Monterrey guys would be another clue.

Starman in the tercera = obvious Alex Koslov stand in. Alex is still listed Tuesday and Friday. CMLL has not bothered to update their lineups, 48 hours after the jump.

IWRG (SUN) 10/19 Arena Naucalpan
1) Super Halcon Jr. vs Carta Brava
2) Eragon & Jack vs Furia Guerrera & King Drako
3) Gemeo Fantastico I vs Dr. Cerebro
4) Freelance, Multifacético, Pendulo vs Black Terry, Ciclon Negro, Terror Negro
5) Latino & Rayo de Jalisco Jr. vs Head Hunter I & Veneno

This is the TV Azteca taping. The Scorpio show with Santo in the main event is for TV C Deportes. Not sure that’s the way I’d do things, unless I’d given up on the TV Azteca deal.

10/06: Coliseo, GDL, AAA notes, Mistico having more surgery?

CMLL (SUN) 10/05 Arena Coliseo [ovaciones]
1) Metálico & Tigre Blanco b Arkangel & Hooligan
2) Fabián el Gitano, Leono, Stuka Jr. b Ephesto, Vangelis, Virus
3) Damián 666, Mephisto, Mr. Águila b Grey Shadow, Sagrado, Volador Jr.
4) Loco Max b Tony Rivera [hair]
5) Blue Panther, Dos Caras Jr., Dr. Wagner Jr. b Atlantis, Black Warrior, Mr. Niebla

Loco Max beating Tony for Loco Max’s first hair is an upset, but not as a big surprise. They tipped off the finish with the note posted on CMLL.com announcing this match. Even if they didn’t, Loco’s lost his hair plenty but always to young guys who they’re trying to get more attention. Rivera’s long stop being a young guy. This seems just so next time Loco is in a hair match (which probably won’t be that long), they can point out he hasn’t lost every single one of them.

I believe Shadow listed as working is a typo on Ovaciones part, but might as well for confirmation. I suppose he could’ve finished up quick there and booked it to AAA just to say he was in both places on the same night (and then would they show it on FSE? Yea, probably.)

SuperLuchas has more on the Rocky Romero jump. Konnan had been talking to him about it for a bit, and Romero jumped because he didn’t feel CMLL was supporting him.

CMLL (SUN) 10/05 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [MT]
5) Lizmark Jr. DQ Marco Corelone

Match was worked around a knee injury to Corelone’s left knee. Sounded more like a story point for the match (and a run thru for the hair match) and not a injury that’ll take Corelone out, but it’s not totally clear. Corelone snuck in a fall with a small package, but Lizmark got him with a half crab in the third fall. Marco gave, gave some more, and Lizmark wasn’t interested in letting go, so Corelone won by DQ.

Box Y Lucha has also sorts of fun teasers for this week’s edition (#2891)
– Mistico is apparently heading back to the operation room, which sounds like he’s going to be out more
– Dos says he’s NOT vetoed from CMLL, which conflicts with what he just said two days ago.
– The Goddess interview makes it sound like she’s already lost her mask (a week early?)
– Paco Alonso is quoted, saying he doesn’t care about WWE TV coming in.

LuchandoLibre has clips of the NWA Mexico show. SuperLuchas updates injuries on the show: Super Muneco is visiting a chiropractor. Blue Demon is in a neck brace, and he and Dandy have a meeting at the DF Box Y Lucha commission tomorrow. SoloLuchas now has it’s notes on the semimain and main and

Al Filo del Ring talks to TVC Deportes about their lucha coverage (they signed a 2 year contract with WWE for RAW, and a 5 year contract with CMLL to show Arena Puebla) and Groon XXX (who says both AAA and CMLL want him and are just waiting for him to say yes, but he wants to wait six more months.) If WWE was willing to pay him what he’s worth and put him top, Groon says he’d go there too.

El Sol de Cuautla previews Tuesday’s shows. I’ll do that…Tuesday.

AAA’s Big Surprise is Rocky Romero

No fooling! I have 500 “so, he’s not in CMLL!” jokes to make here, but it’s confusing enough as it is. Rocky had been wrestling as Grey Shadow, and as apparently is no longer wrestling as Grey Shadow. Though, unless they make that clear to the AAA audience, it’s just going to look like a random foreigner from years past showing up in AAA and not a big jump – and even if they did, Grey Shadow’s been relegated to a minor role. He’s joining X-Pac’s D-Generation-Mex group.

(Sorry, Shocker!)

AAA picking up a ROH guy does fit their mood! I can not even begin to fathom the matches, though I think this is for sure a better move for Rocky’s spot. Guess he won’t be getting Sangre Azteca’s mask!

I’m crushed the Alex/Shadow team isn’t happening. They were so fun on FSE.

How does that NJPW G1 Tag Team work now, with Negro probably not too thirlled with Rocky? I can’t see an AAA and CMLL guy teaming up in Japan.

Does Rocky still have the CMLL Super Lightweight Belt? HMMMMM.