2005 Award Categories

Tapatia - via luchawiki Look at that picture over there. How did I not think of Best Female Wrestler? Duh. Thanks boots.

I like the idea of adding subcategories to the Best Match for Best Singles Match and Best Trios Match. Maybe instead of Trios, it’s just Best (any number) Tag match, lumping Pairs and Atomicos in? (Ciberneticos, mulit-way cage matches, and other misc would only be eligible for Best Match.)

The reason I’d include Best Tag and Best Trios in a bad year for those categories is to illustrate how bad a year it’s been – but I guess you do that even greater by leaving off the awards at all. Someone figure out 5 tags and 5 trios which could be considered reasonable choices, or I’ll probably just skip it.

Putting Best Title to that same standard
– NWA Middleweight (Averno -> Mistico)
– NWA Light Heavyweight (Shocker -> vacant -> Wagner -> Atlantis)
– Mexican National Trios (Safari/Felino/Volador -> Dr. X/Nitro/Sangre -> Maximo/Texano/Sagrado)
– CMLL Tag (Atlantis/Panther -> Averno/Mephisto)
– ??? Maybe an IWRG?

This is kinda on the line. CMLL LH title hasn’t made TV since the Ultimo/Park End Of Year match, though that did air in the US. CMLL Trios has been dead. Both the CMLL Welterweight (Mephisto) and Mexican Welterweight (Dr. X -> Mephisto) have gotten a little attention, but not much. I’m not sure.

Leaving it out for a moment, we’ve got

1) Best Wrestler: (top 5)
2) Best Match: (top 5)
3) Best Singles Match: (top 3 for rest)
4) Best Trios? Match:
5) Best Tecnico:
6) Best Rudo:
7) Best Female:
8) Best Promotion:
9) Best Rivalary:
10) Best Legend:
11) Most Improved:
12) Most Underutilized:

Any other suggestions?

I’m gonna just shelf this till Decemeber, because I don’t want to start voting till late December. I’ll preview the awards and talk about nominees at that time, except I want to discuss the #1 award right now, because it’ll come up elsewhere.

Best Wrestler Nominees

I think this is a lot more complex choice than it seems on face value. There’s three obvious nominees: El Hijo de Perro Aguayo, Mistico, and Dr. Wagner Jr.. Even if they’re not your choice, it’s pretty understandable why people would vote for them.

I don’t think they’re the only worthy choices to win, though. Let me also suggest:

Konnan and Vampiro: They’re both working part time schedules, their matches are not what people would call ‘good’ and the booking makes no sense. They’re also main eventing the biggest shows in the country, and the fans are into their matches – that’s gotta mean something. There’s probably a case to be made that one of these two men were the biggest draws in the country this year (don’t know if we’ve got the numbers to prove it), and if that means something to you, you’ve got consider them. (I figure most people will not.)

Shocker probably should get some down ballot consideration, because he was a major figure in both CMLL and AAA. I think he’s hurt a lot by timing – he wasn’t around long in CMLL to do anything major, and he missed out on TripleMania because of the TNA show (and he seems to be out of TNA now), so I think he’s a step below the other two.

There’s one more CMLL candidate, the guy they’ve been booking around for the last six months, who will probably be involved in something major on the year end show, and will likely get a big win tonight: Atlantis. Again, not a personal favorite, but from the build to Wagner/Atlantis to Atlantis getting booed to Atlantis turning rudo, he’s been a central figure in what CMLL has presented. If he beats Santo for the Leyenda de Plata, he’ll have two big wins (Gran Alternativa), have won the NWA Light Heavyweight title, and done as much damage to the indestructible Mistico as anyone. Mistico was the man of the first half of the year, but it’s been Atlantis the second half, and I’m figuring on him getting the important lucha Magazine vote.

I think a lot depends on where CMLL and AAA go for the end of year shows; it could elevate someone from the pack, or it could give a shot to someone like Universo if they win a big match (and have a good match.)

Am I missing anyone? On a world wide scale, I think Dr. Wagner and Mistico will get some votes (Perro not as strong, because it hasn’t been as much a breakout year for him, I guess), and I have this feeling that Konnan is the guy Meltzer is thinking about who won’t get many votes.

2005 Tapatia Ideas

Tapatia - via luchawikiWe’re NOT voting yet, or probably not even till December. This is just an early warning to give you time to think about it (and because it’s Friday and I’ve got not enough to do.) We’ll try a nomination thread before voting as well, so hold off on hyping particular people until then, though feel free to discuss – one of things that prompted this is an internal debate over who’s the Mexican Wrestler of the Year.

I want to emphaize, I don’t want to limit this just to people who’ve watched every single tape over the last year, because it would just be Robert giving his opinions. Personally, I know there will be plenty of lucha I won’t get time to see, unless I quit my job. If you feel you’re familiar with what’s gone on, go ahead and vote.

Here’s last year’s winners, in case you’ve forgetten.

Best Wrestler: L.A. Park
Best Match: 09-03 Averno vs Zumbido
Best Tecnico: L.A. Park
Best Rudo: Hector Garza
Best Tag Team: Ultimo & Rey
Best Trio: GdI
Best Promotion: CMLL
Best Rivalary: Santo vs Perro Aguayo
Best Legend: Santo
Most Improved: Olimpico
Most Underrated: Olimpico

Legend was any wrestler over 40. As last year, anything from 2004 which didn’t turn up on Gala to 2005 is eligible, as well as stuff which hasn’t aired on GALA yet but you’ve seen.

Thoughts on new categories or changes? Now’s the time to sell me on ideas I wouldn’t listen to last year.

I’m only listening to “Best Rookie” if you can give me 8 guys we can agree on being rooks. That’s your challenge.

I think I’m changing Underrated to “Under Utilized”.

Best Outsider, perhaps?

I’m not too high on Tag Team/Trios awards, because those have been relatively dead categories this year. I can guess the winners, but it’s a By Default situation mostly.

I’m thinking about adding “Best non-CMLL wrestler” and “Best non-CMLL match”, just because I want more AAA/IWRG/Tijuana/wherever action to be represented.

Feel free to throw an off the wall suggestion in. I’m gonna listen to anything.

2004 Tapatia Award Results

Thanks all for particpating, or even just reading. I learned some things about how to better do this – we’ll see if I can use them next year.

We ended with four ballots. Not every ballot completely filled out the awards.

There was a no comment rule, but since only one person did them, I’ll save them the type of retyping in the comment window.

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2004 Tapatia Awards Ballot

Hi!

This is the first Tapatia awards, designed to honor the best in lucha libre over the past year. We encourage all fans to vote, and let their voice be heard on the previous twelve months of Mexican lucha libre. This year of voting will cover the calendar year 2004. Matches taped in Mexico in 2003 but first aired in the United States and Canada in 2004 will also be considered eligible.

As this is our first year, there’s some experimenting going on to see what works and what doesn’t. In order to get a handle on how much work this would be, we’ve cut the ballot down to the eleven awards. This year, there will be no “Worst Of” awards. We’ll not be doing comments in addition to awards, but we highly encourage voters to follow up the winners announcement with their thoughts.

Voting will be held from December 26th, 2004 to January 10th. One ballot per person. Send completed ballots to luchaawards@thecubsfan.com. Ballots to other addresses may not be counted!

Categories with first thru third voting will give 5 points for first, 3 points for second, 2 points for third. Categories with first thru fifth voting will give 12 points for first, 8 points for second, 5 points for third, 3 points for fourth, and 2 points for fifth. Tie and split votes will be thrown out.

Any match in any location using the Mexican lucha libre style are eligible to be included. Shows in the US and elsewhere using this style are included. Japanese lucha libre promotions such as Michinoku Pro are not included, but Japanese tours by Mexican lucha libre promotions are included. Female and mini wrestlers are eligible for all categories, unless otherwise specified.

Quick descriptions of the awards:
1) Best Wrestler – top wrestler over the last year.
2) Best Match – should be obvious. Please include the date the match happened.
3) Best Tecnico – greatest good guy
4) Best Rudo – for the entertaining evil-doers
5) Best Tag Team – two person team. Had to team up during the year.
6) Best Trio – three person team. Had to team up during the year.
7) Best Promotion – outstanding organization. If regional/city promotion, I’d appreciate if the region was specified.
8) Best Rivalry – most interesting/exciting/entertaining feud. Can be person vs person, or people vs people.
9) Best Legend – wrestler over the age of 40.
10) Most Improved – wrestler who stepped up their game the highest from 2003
11) Most Underrated – wrestler who’s deserving of more attention from both the promotion and the fans

I (thecubsfan) am the sole dictator of the awards, and my decisions will be final.

Please cut and paste the following ballot to luchaawards@thecubsfan.com.. Do not post your ballot in this thread.

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