Tag: Congress Theatre

On the CPW board – sorry for not adding it to the links yet, Rob! – luchafan has done a fine job of keeping track of the lineup for the end of the month Chicago FMLL/ELL-MEX? I don’t know, and as long as they don’t have the Ring Of Death, it doesn’t matter to anyone who isn’t paid by the promotion at this point.

FMLL (FRI) 01/27 Salon el Rey, Compton, CA Lineup [dvdvr]
2) Principe Unlimited, No Fear, White Pork vs Profeta & Kayam & Enigma de Oro
3) Shamu Jr., Rey Misterio Sr., Jalisco vs Acero Dorado Jr., Profeta, Damian 666
4) Mistico & LA Park vs Averno & Dr. Wagner Jr.

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CALDERON (FRI) 01/27 Elk’s Lodge, Oxnard Lineup [dvdvr]
4) Mistico & LA Park vs Averno & Dr. Wagner Jr.

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FMLL (SAT) 01/28 Las Lomas Restruant, Waukegan, IL Lineup [cpw]
Scheduled to Appear: Dr. Wagner Jr. & LA Park
Address: 442 N Green Bay Rd, Waukegan, IL 60085 – google map

FMLL (SUN) 01/29 Congress Theatre, Chicago IL Lineup
1) Silueta Azul vs Great Tojo
2) Mascara de Jade & Angel de la Muerte vs Aguila Tapatia & Angel Dorado [cpw]
3) SWAT Kat, Lupillo, Rayo Lazer vs Guerrerito del Futuro, Coco Verde, Coco Negro
4) Atomo, Piloto Suicida vs Shamu Jr. & Aguila de America
5) Mistico & LA Park vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Averno

Piloto Suicida is injuried, so he’ll be replaced, just don’t know by who.

Address:

Two points I need to make
* I really really really really REALLY want this main event to happen. Even though the likelyhood of them doing the same basic match is 95%, I’ll be going to both nights if it all possible.
* I have absolutely no faith in this happening until we get much close to the actual date and they haven’t announced a change.

Why? Here’s a list of recent Congress Theatre lucha main events, with what was first promised as the main and what occured

Date: 05/15/05 (OELL? I just saw the Aurora show)
initial: Universo 2000, Cien Caras, Mascara Ano 2000 vs Perro Aguayo Jr., Pierroth, el Hijo del Pierroth
final: Universo 2000 & Infernal vs Pierroth & El Hijo del Pierroth

Date: 06/25/05
initial: Rayo de Jalisco & LA Park vs Universo 2000 & Blue Panther
final: Rayo de Jalisco & LA Park vs Universo 2000 & Blue Panther

Date: 07/23/05
initial: Rey Bucanero vs Tarzan Boy
final: Mascara Sagrada & Super Astro vs Mano Negra & Cassandro

Date: 10/02/05
initial: Lizmark Sr., Rayo de Jalisco, LA Park vs Universo 2000, Mascara Ano 2000, Blue Panther
final: LA Park & Tinieblas Jr. vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Electroshock

Date: 11/27/05
initial: LA Park, Mascara Sagrada, Villano III, Blue Demon Jr., Super Porky, Damian 666, Halloween
final: Blue Demon Jr. & Super Porky vs Satanico & Villano III

Date: 01/29/06
initial: LA Park & Mistico vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Averno
(though I saw a mention of Halloween and Damian instead of these rudos)
final: ???

This doesn’t include the many date changes, the undercard, or the vague promises they were made and didn’t occur (Santo in September, GdI at some point).

I don’t know that they’re doing this willingly – in fact, I believe the changes are probably out of their control, and they’re only at fault for announcing names before they know they have them (which isn’t anything new in wrestling) – but it’s a strong enough pattern to be a bit wary.

I’m not trying to be a hater – just trying to point at the facts and shrug.

Finally gotten around to posting results from last Sunday’s Congress theatre show. You’ll notice a lot of new/strange names on the undercard, as most of the workers have been caught in a promotional war between the two lucha groups in Chicago.

This is beyond stupid, because they don’t run the same days (or, in many cases, the SAME MONTH), they don’t run the same buildings (any more), they’re really not all that close to each other and, as much as I might love some of ’em, no Chicago lucha wrestler is anything close to a significant draw at this moment. I can’t understand how it affects either business (and to be fair, I think it’s only O’Campo’s group with the “us or them, not both” stance) one single cent. It probably hurts them more than anything, because a lot of the guys need more time in front of crowds, and you’re cutting down the number of shows they can work.

The stated reason for the guys who’ve stuck with O’Campo (who’s no longer running Congress) is they have a TV show. Which would be fine, if it was on a television station anyone actually got. It is not available on any cable system, over the air only, and I had a hard time finding even an FCC record of it existing the last time I checked, so I’ll skip even mentioning it. The real reason to go with O’Campo is he appears to run far more often (though apparently usually with nothing more than very local posters?), and you’re probably getting more experience and more money that way. So I don’t blame anyone for going that way, I just think the whole thing is moronic.

Anyway, the show. All this info via luchfan, who is great but I would love if he slowed down, thought out what he was writing and used better punctuation and spelling.

FMLL (SUN) 11/27 Congress Theatre Results [chipro]
1) Will Martel b Dante Devil
2) Angel Dorado & Angel de la Muerte b Mascara de Jade & Leprosi
3) Guerrerito del Futuro, Payasos (Coco Verde & Coco Negro) b SWAT Kat, Aguila Tapatia, Lupillo el Terrible
4) Mascara Sagrada & Atomo b Aguila del America & Shamu Jr.
5) Blue Demon Jr. & Brazo de Plata b Satanico & Villano III

Satanico indeed had a shaved head. (That darn Emilio!) There were fliers for this weekends O’Campo show:

O’Campo (SAT) 12/03 Chi-Town Lineup:
Kato Kung Lee, Mano Negra, Super Astro, Casandro

All these guys have been in Chicago in the last year or so. Probably not worth going out of your way to see.

Announced names for the next Congress show.

FMLL (FRI) 01/20 Congress Theatre Results [chipro]
Scheduled to appear: Mistico, LA Park, Damian 666, Averno.

No, I won’t believe it till the week of the show either. If Mistico got booked elsewhere and Park got booked elsewhere (I’m betting yes), I’d still go just to see Averno. And, even though it’s going to take some work to get there, I like Friday shows better than I like Sunday ones.

Last I heard, the Congress Theatre main event was still Blue Demon Jr. & Brazo de Plata vs Satacnio & Villano III. After watching his match on today’s lucha, I really would like to see Porky, but I’m sadly not going to be able to make it out there tonight.

If you do go and check it out, I’d like to know what you thought of the event, and who turned up as the undercarders.

Also in Box Y Lucha’s listings:

FMLL? (SUN) 11/27 Congress Theatre Lineup [box y lucha]
1) ?
2) ?
3) Guerrerito del Futuro & Mini Charly Manson vs Gringo Loco & SWAT Kat
4) Mascara Sagrada & Discovery vs Shamu Jr. & Aguila del America
5) Blue Demon Jr. & Brazo de Plata vs Satacnio & Villano III

I’m guessing five matches. Don’t know for show. Box Y Lucha has a listing of a 5PM start, which can’t possibly be true. At Congress’ website, you can reserve free tickets, though I’d guess that doesn’t include ringside. I’ve heard a report that they won’t be selling tickets at the door, but that’s more improbable to me than the 5PM start time.

Park and Wagner were orginally scheduled, but if you can check out the lineup, you’ll see they took a booking in Torreon; Park and Black Tiger are (supposed to be) working to a mask/mask there, so even if Congress paid better now (and I don’t know that they did), Park had to take that booking for what it pays later.

Sometimes, I can’t believe people in Mexico City have a better idea of what the card is at Congress than myself, who’s no more than a hour away from the front door. Then, I think about it a little more, and I’m not that surprised.

I’ve seen Blue Demon enough times now, I think I have enough stamps on my card to get in free next time, and I’ve seen Villano IV a fair bit too – but I do want to see Porky and Satanico so if I can go, I’m probably going. I just won’t know if I’m free to go until, literally, the moment I get in the car and start driving.

Given I missed two matches trying to find parking and most of another waiting in line for popcorn (at that point, the only thing I’d eaten that day was peanut M&Ms, so it was a necessary sacrifice), the lucha show last night at Congress was really fun. The SWAT/Mascarita vs Mini Charly Manson/Guerrerito del Futuro was okay, but really the LA Park/Tinieblas vs Dr. Wagner/Elektro match was awesome and totally worth the ticket alone. Heck, ChicagoPD could’ve given me a ticket for illegally parking in a permit area and it would’ve been worth that ticket too. Awesome. Park and Wagner stole the show (really, they could’ve put in any two other guys instead of their AAA partners; the ref was a bigger highlight than them); Wagner was the rudo so the crowd did boo him, and it worked out great that way.

I’ll skip the full show report and leave that to, you know, someone who actually saw the whole show. Unless they were doing some sort of guerilla film making and hiding the cameras, I don’t believe this show was taped. Too bad.

I think I settled on a 1750 attendance. That’s pretty good for a show with a minimal amount of posters, maybe a show on a low power (and not on cable) TV show, mostly getting the word out mouth to mouth (maybe they did Spanish language radio ads? They’ve done them in the past but there were no signs for a station at the show.) It could’ve been higher than that, but I feel pretty safe

I think I’m Mistico and Santo away from seeing everyone currently in Mexican lucha I really really want to see. What’s the list? Rey, Ultimo, Wagner, Park, Shocker, Porky, Felino, Virus, both Misteriosos, Nicho – plus more guys I didn’t mind seeing like Demon, Pierroth, Hijo de Pierroth, Super Parka, Rey Mysterio Sr., Mil Mascaras and Universo. I keep thinking I’ve seen Negro but I can’t remember when – maybe I need to see him again to be sure.

Next show was announced as 11/27, with Halloween, Damian, Blue Demon, Mascara Sagrada, Villano III, and Super Porky. My schedule for the couple weeks around that date is up in the air, but I hope I get to go.