CMLL Martes: 2019-10-08

kind of giving away the game by doing UG moves

Recapped: 10/09/2019

Matches:

Acero & Aéreo beat Pequeño Olímpico & Pierrothito
(12:45 [5:37, 3:03, 4:05], 1/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

La Comandante, Metálica, Reyna Isis beat La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Skadi
(16:23 [8:02, 4:35, 3:46], 2/3, n/r,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Disturbio, Pólvora, Universo 2000 Jr. beat Drone, Oro Jr., Pegasso
(15:22 [4:27, 3:29, 7:26], 2/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Black Panther, Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr. beat Dark Magic, Misterioso, Sagrado
(13:23 [6:34, 1:39, 5:10], 2/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Atlantis, Místico, Soberano Jr. beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(9:18 [3:23, 5:55], 1/2, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Carístico beat Forastero
(12:27, 1/3, good,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Caristico casita (1:20)
  2. Forastero armbar (1:27)
  3. La Mistica (9:40)

What happened:

The opener is joined a minute or so in progress. It’s usually streaming issues when that happens.

Thoughts:

face dropkick actually to face

I’d like to see more progression that we’re getting out of Forastero. He was there to take Caristico’s move (except for the springboard plancha in the opening fall), he does play up being a rudo a bit, but his offense still isn’t there. Forastero feels like he has his trios moves and no more on his own, though he’s had the opportunity to do more. A lot of Forastero moves play off his cousins dropping someone on the mat or in a corner for Forastero to add his move, and they don’t feel like they work on his own with what he’s doing so far. So much of it is flying moves that he actually comes off as a miscast tecnico than a rudo at times. Ultimo Guerrero & Místico was more predictable because Guerrero was better at putting Místico in a level of danger not see here. This main event was a fine enough Caristico exhibition and more fun than anything else on the show but it also exposed the need for more.

The semi-main was more notable for the protection of Místico – turning the match around in the second fall to lead to the sweep – than much that happened. I didn’t really need a long Hijo del Infierno match and what we saw was fine, there just was no reason for it to go two falls except to keep Místico from losing. Atlantis couldn’t move but he couldn’t move for a shorter amount of time this week, so that was nice.

Blue Panther celebrates his 41st anniversary by wrestling the midcard rudos in a match that unusually struggles to get a reaction. The crowd dies in the third fall around the star spot. They do get them back, but that’s a bit that nearly always seems to work. Nothing works quite as well as it should be here despite Panther pulling out all of his tricks. Even the surprise finish comes off flat.

Acero & Aereo have evolved into a good prelim tag team who would absolutely not be missed if they disappeared tomorrow. They’ve actually moved down the card as they’ve gotten better, with CMLL giving up on this division but still booking them in openers. The first fall was the best fall in the opener.

CMLL Mexico: 2019-10-01

how did this work?

Recapped: 10/01/2019

Matches:

Bengala & Leono beat Apocalipsis & Cholo
(12:05 [5:49, 3:26, 2:50], 2/3, ok,
00:00:00)

Dalys, La Infernal, Tiffany beat La Guerrera, La Maligna, Lluvia
(12:57 [6:33, 2:46, 3:38], 1/3, n/r,
00:18:41)

Drone, Fuego, Pegasso beat Misterioso, Sagrado, Tiger
(12:27 [4:50, 2:43, 4:54], 1/3, ok,
00:40:12)

Virus beat El Audaz in a lightning match
(8:58, armscissors, ok,
01:03:19)

Atlantis, Kráneo, Volcano beat Felino, Hechicero, Rey Bucanero
(13:46 [5:11, 2:52, 5:43], 2/3, n/r,
01:17:06)

Forastero, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas beat Carístico, Diamante Azul, Soberano Jr.
(10:03 [5:53, 4:10], 1/2, ok,
01:41:43)

What happened:

Forastero pulled Caristico’s mask to get the win in straight falls, setting up a singles match next week.

Bengala was actually counted out in the first fall of the opener after taking a dropkick. Apocalipsis too was counted out in the third after a Bengala tornillo pescado.

Thoughts:

Audaz

The main event was two falls, but they gave it a good amount of time, working in the usual Tuesday big spot format around it. Forastero and Caristico exchanging real near falls before the inevitable controversial finish was more thought than the usual rushed ending.

Virus/Audaz didn’t really come together. Virus led a more mat-based focus of the match for the first five minutes. Audaz didn’t impress in the concept and the crowd got restless. Audaz followed with two highspots, which didn’t really make sense in the context and just seemed to exist to get people back into it. The back and forth followed was ok and rarely better with that; Audaz still hasn’t developed the singles offense he needs to make these matches work. It’s a place where Soberano is far ahead of him.

The tercera was a generic match seen a hundred times. The corwd dug it, third fall had a bit more to it than it seemed at first, it still didn’t rise to anything notable above those many previous matches.

I’m presuming the all veteran opener on Nuevo Valores was a knockoff effect of the prelim guys being in the Gran Alterantiva. Still, there should be an unlimited amount of trainees in CMLL to fill these spots. Anything in 2019 where Leono is the youngest guy serves little purpose. Bengala probably should’ve saved his one dive in Arena Mexico this year for a bigger purpose.

CMLL Martes: 2019-09-24

he lived

Recapped: 09/30/2019

Matches:

Retro & Sangre Imperial beat Cholo & Yago
(10:03 [4:45, 2:54, 2:24], 23, n/r,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

La Seductora, Metálica, Reyna Isis beat La Guerrera, La Jarochita, Maligna
(13:51 [6:30, 3:35, 3:46], 2/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Magia Blanca, Pegasso, Star Jr. beat Cancerbero, Raziel, Universo 2000 Jr.
(13:37 [6:24, 3:05, 4:08], 1/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Guerrero Maya Jr. beat Fuego in a lightning match
(6:25, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Kráneo, Stuka Jr., Volcano beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Templario
(13:23 [4:29, 2:44, 6:10], 2/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Felino, Forastero, Mr. Niebla beat Atlantis, Carístico, Soberano Jr.
(9:35 [5:08, 4:27], 1/2, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

Forastero went for a foul, Caristico blocked, Forastero unmasked him instead.

Thoughts:

more impressive to pull this off with Sangre Imperial than Cain Velasquez, in a fashion

Caristico looked good, Soberano’s had better matches, Atlantis’ speed throws everything off in the main event. Forastero doesn’t shine as much as people in the undercard who aren’t every getting singles matches, but it’s still at least a different man.

The woman flashing the camera was more exciting than the semimain but that feels unfair to the woman.

The lightning match was a fine tecnico vs tecnico match. There was some smart blocking of counters near the end. It would’ve been nice to get some mat work to begin with, with them running into the end game a little quick.

The tercera had more effort than usual. It helped that Star Jr. & Magia Blanca seem happy to be there. The grumpy rudos also remain less grumpy in this spot on the card. This still felt like a perfunctory match with everything ending at the first possible moment but enjoyable for a Tuesday match.

CMLL Mexico: 2019-09-17

massive power behind that tope

Recapped: 09/17-18/2019

Matches:

Leono & Retro beat Inquisidor & Yago
(11:15 [4:21, 3:15, 3:39], 2/3, ok,
00:01:10)

Fantasy, Shockercito, Último Dragóncito beat Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Violencia, Pierrothito
(13:50 [5:38, 4:39, 3:33], 2/3, ok,
00:19:17 )

Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus beat Drone, Fuego, Star Jr.
(11:55 [5:16, 2:39, 4:00], 1/3, ok, 00:43:28)

Misterioso, Sagrado, Tiger beat Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Guerrero Maya Jr.
(11:14 [4:30, 3:17, 3:27], 2/3, ok,
01:05:07 )

Audaz, Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr. beat Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
(12:42 [3:47, 4:52, 4:03], 1/3, ok,
01:27:36)

Volador Jr. beat Cavernario
(11:48 [2:50, 8:58], 1/2 DQ, ok,
01:51:18)

What happened:

Raziel

Volador faked a foul to win in straight falls, building up the hair match.

Thoughts:

The Volador/Cavernario match didn’t start exciting, had a designed unsatisfying finish, and Volador was never so motivated as to remove off his t-shirt. They did do a good B-version of their match in between, giving about the effort expected on this show, just not the effort possible between these two guys. A forgettable but not offensive main event, by Tuesday standards.

The tercera was a brief but entertaining midcard match. Los Cancerberos are better up in the spot because they have offense. I’m used to rudos standing around and doing little. This match was also one of those where Drone angers me by being very good while having messed up his entire career. He seems more like someone you’d do something significant with than Fuego at this point (though Fuego should be higher as well.)

The minis match had some effort, but the speed seemed off. It didn’t come off strong as a result

Yago’s new look is an improvement. I would like him to remodel his finishing move as well, but I guess there are more significant problems here I don’t understand; Yago’s fallen off the map this year. The rest of this match was boring lucha performed as boring. It is tough to tell if Retro is limited or if CMLL limits him.

this is Leono’s finish now. In case it comes up.

CMLL Martes: 2019-09-03

only Audaz would see this as the best line of attack

Recapped: 09/09/2019

Matches:

Acero & Aéreo beat Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico
(13:12 [5:04, 4:28, 3:40], 1/3, n/r,
VideosOficialesCMLL

Espanto Jr., Hijo del Signo, Nitro beat Eléctrico, Halcón Suriano Jr., Oro Jr.
(12:53 [5:55, 3:03, 3:55], 1/3, n/r,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Black Panther, Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr. beat Dark Magic, Misterioso, Vangellys
(14:21 [5:07, 2:50, 6:24], 1/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Pólvora beat Guerrero Maya Jr. in a lightning match
(6:31, Super Polvora Driver, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Atlantis, Audaz, Flyer beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(11:00 [3:59, 3:04, 3:57], 2/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr. beat Cavernario, Cuatrero, Terrible
(10:36 [1:32, 2:51, 6:13], 2/3 DQ, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

Cavernario fouled Volador for the DQ as part of the build to the hair match to be announced the next day.

Thoughts:

Oro Jr. and a good camera angle

The main event was the most enjoyable match of the night, the tecnicos getting the crowd to react well running their offense. It seemed like the usual formula might not work when the Chavez brothers were loudly booed on corner dropkicks. The crowd was more favorable to the showcases in the third fall. The DQ wasn’t great but they have headed there all match and it was leading to the next day’s announcement.

The end of the second fall was dismal, with Flyer’s timing off and Atlantis moving like a 70-year-old man. The rest is not as bad but not many highlights. Atlantis turning into a lesser version of La Parka is not really the way anyone wanted to see him go.

Guerrero Maya Jr. was one of the most creative CMLL luchadors. What happened in the lightning match was instead a pretty standard match of a few of his simpler high spots leading to taking Polvora’s finish. It was a simple match.

A match where everyone seemed to be in the right place but no one seemed all that excited about it. Dark Magic stuck out as so set in getting in the right spot (which he was as far as I could) that he was unaware an audience was watching. A lot going on.

no

CMLL Martes: 2019-08-27

takes after his father

Recapped: 09/04/2019

Matches:

Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro beat Angelito & Último Dragóncito
(12:26 [6:04, 3:22, 3:00], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Robin beat Grako in a lightning match
(7:37, Tiger Bomb, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Espanto Jr., Hijo del Signo, Nitro beat Pegasso, Star Jr., Súper Astro Jr.
(13:26 [6:43, 2:42, 4:01], 1/3, n/r,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Guerrero Maya Jr. beat Cancerbero, Raziel, Vangellys
(11:35 [4:42, 2:30, 4:23], 2/3, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ephesto, Hechicero, Luciferno beat Kráneo, Rey Cometa, Volcano
(16:01 [7:05, 5:00, 3:56], 2/3, n/r,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Audaz, Carístico, Stuka Jr. beat La Bestia Del Ring, Mr. Niebla, Terrible
(9:10 [3:57, 5:13], 1/2, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

Caristico wears a Dr. Karonte mask to the ring to honor his father. Niebla fouled Caristico for the DQ.

Thoughts:

a Raziel dive gif

The main event didn’t have the usual energy of the Tuesday show enders. The tecnicos couldn’t do as much with these rudos, and they rushed two short falls for a lesser match than usual. It’s a match even less relevant than the Arena Puebla match, so it’s weird CMLL seemingly changed the finish on Monday for Caristico but wouldn’t change this one. Or maybe they didn’t change anything?

Raziel & Cancerbero probably should be working more terceras, because they were as good (or better) than Vangellys and most everyone else who gets to be in the spot. There was a little bit more out of them than usual – don’t see assisted dives often – and they worked well with the Panthers. Vangellys & Maya seemed off in the background. This was a borderline match.

Asking Grako to control a singles match as much as in this lightning match was a bad idea. Asking Grako to take UG knee bump to the floor was a hysterically bad idea. Most of Robin’s singles matches are better than this. This match probably still be what Nuevo Valores shows are for, Grako needs the work.