CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-05-16 

at it again

Recapped: 05/18/2017

Matches: 

All matches aired live from Arena Mexico.

Apocalipsis & Artillero beat Bengala & Magia Blanca (11:55 [4:48, 3:06, 4:01], 2/3, via VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico beat Aéreo, Eléctrico, Fantasy (12:47 [6:16, 2:40, 3:51], 2/3, via VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Drone, Fuego, Star Jr. defeat Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus
(15:02 [7:20, 4:07, 3:35], 1/3, via
VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Felino, Ripper, Sam Adonis defeat Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., The Panther (11:55 [0:36, 6:07], 2/3, via VideosOficialesCMLL, good)

Rey Cometa beat Cavernario (16:53, 2/3, via VideosOficialesCMLL, great)

  1. Rey Cometa standing Spanish Fly (1:14)
  2. Barbaro Cavernario Rosa suplex (1:56)
  3. DQ Cavernario foul (14:03)

Atlantis, Marco Corleone, Titán beat Hechicero, Kráneo, Mr. Niebla (10:37 [2:50, 2:13, 5:34], 2/3, via VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

What Happened:

Misterioso & Sagrado take out Fuego

Cavernario fouled Cometa to end their singles match. It seemed more out of frustration in his inability to win than trying to cheat.

Blue Panther & Ripper feuded!

There’s no sound for the first two falls of the main event; they turned it down for the commercial and didn’t remember to turn it back up.

That’s about it.

Review:

Titan hands tope con giro

The singles match is the match to watch, a match near the level of their most recent Tuesday title match and a step above the Cometa/Soberano title match. It’s tense match feeling more like a fight with a lot at stake, and Cavernario brings the aggressiveness that’s not normally found in a tecnico/tecnico match. This was more about trying to win than the show off match on Friday. It felt like Cometa was barely getting in anything against his savage opponent, and Cavernario was increasingly frustrated at not being able to put Cometa away until he broke. The finish worked well for the context even if it is a let down from what the match could be. I suspect they just didn’t want Cometa to lose two singles matches in a week, and I hope they didn’t beat Cavenrario either because he’s going after Soberano next. That’s going to be similarly great when it happens, and helpful for Soberano to keep growing.

The tercera trios match was the best of the rest of the matches. The quick first fall actually worked here, giving the match an energy boost compared to the slow starting the rest of the night. (AAA almost always has hot starts, CMLL almost always has cold starts, both could use more mixing.) They kept up good pace and had some good action thru the match. Blue Panther Jr. looked better than usual, and Ripper & Panther bringing back the feud CMLL’s bookers forgot was a nice nod in a promotion where most of those things just get dropped after three weeks. This wasn’t the best match I’ve seen or anything, but we’d be a lot happier if this kind of match was the baseline instead of the B-show exception.

American Mutilation

Everyone hit their marks in the main. There’s rarely any sloppiness in the show ending matches and there wasn’t really in this one either, but they can’t help but feel more like a choreographed action adventure stage show with no weight too it. It’s less a fight, more Marvel Heroes doing one of their three shows a day at Six Flags. It’s good for their target audience, it’s just disappointing not to be the target.

Bengala seemed excited in the opener. He was the only one. Of all the possible highspots in the second match, Pequeno Nitro doing a plancha to the floor would not have been my pick. Hechicero claimed Virus knew more holds than him when talking about the tercera. Hechicero has done fine in his first times as guest commentator the last couple of weeks; he tends to speak in paragraphs as always, but he comes off like he knows he what he’s talking about and is interested in the action.

Cavernario turns it around quick

 

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-05-09 

look, a Panther tope

Recapped: 05/09/2017

Matches: 

All matches aired live from Arena Mexico on May 9, in between shots of the new Freedom restaurant.

  1. Mercurio & Pierrothito beat Acero & Aéreo (11:46 [5:38, 3:10, 2:58], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
  2. La Jarochita, Marcela, Skadi beat Amapola, Reyna Isis, Tiffany (13:19 [6:35, 3:19, 3:25], below average, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
  3. Misterioso Jr. beat The Panther in a lightning match(5:13, Gori Special, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
  4. Fuego, Pegasso, Stigma beat Disturbio, Puma, Tiger (14:58 [5:37, 3:09, 6:12], 2/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
  5. Blue Panther, Johnny Idol, Rey Cometa  beat Bobby Villa, Cavernario, Pólvora (14:27 [7:22, 7:05], 1/2 DQ, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)
  6. Atlantis, Carístico, Mistico beat Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero (12:37 [4:50, 3:00, 4:47], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 

this was not good

Niebla Roja still wants to wrestle a técnico style, still is on the rudo side but more actively cost his team the win this week.

Cometa led his team to a straight fall win. He didn’t actually pin Cavernario in any of the falls – he got Bobby & Pólvora in the first, then was pinning Pólvora again in the second when Cometa fouled him – but he and Cavernario feuded the entire match so it set up a singles match anyway. Cavernario accepted in between punching Cometa in the face.

JCR was enthusiastic about the (remote, unlikely) possibility of a Reina Isis/Skadi apuesta match. Based on this match, that would’ve bee one of the worst matches of all time.

Hechicero was a guest commentator for what appears to be the first time.

Thoughts: 

Niebla Roja just watching it go by

This show was too boring to review each individual match. It was probably too boring to watch, but that I did.

Everything was the same or less than you’d expect – the last two matches were disappointing, though the main event was disappointing in the same way of all Niebla Roja matches. Cometa/Cavernario feuding is good, but the match to set it up wasn’t much. The fourth match was the best match on the show with them going farther and longer than expected to make it worthwhile, but Stigma had a bad night. He would’ve been the worst wrestler on a show that didn’t have that women’s match.

CMLL Martes de Glamour: 2017-05-02 

javelin tope

Recapped: 05/04/2017

Matches: 

All matches aired live from Arena Mexico. The first match and part of the second match did not air due to technical issues.

Eléctrico, Shockercito, Stukita beat Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Violencia (16:43 [4:37, 5:17, 6:49], 1/3, ok)

Canelo Casas, Forastero, Virus beat Drone, Fuego, Star Jr. (14:38 [7:01, 3:26, 4:11], 2/3, ok)

Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther beat Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys (14:24 [6:56, 3:02, 4:26], 2/3, ok)
Video: 
VideosOficialesCMLL

Dragón Lee vs Niebla Roja (14:12 [2:40, 2:26, 9:06], great)
Video: 
VideosOficialesCMLL

  1. Dragon Lee Spanish Fly (2:40)

  2. Niebla Roja Furia Roja (2:26)

  3. Niebla Roja inverted huracanrana (9:05)

Atlantis, Rey Cometa, Valiente beat Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla (7:46 [0:52, 1:57, 4:57], 2/3, ok)

What Happened:

Niebla Roja defeated Dragon Lee cleanly in something close to a tecnico versus tecnico match. And that’s all.

Review:

Dragon Lee takes a lot on this

I liked the Dragon Lee/Niebla Roja more on the rewatch. The first time thru, the reverse huracanrana doesn’t feel like the right finish, not being a move that’s usually a finish for Niebla Roja (or anyone here despite being a Big Move) and being the rudo winning cleanly. It kind of works better when you factor in what each man had already done to each other, and Niebla Roja just escaping Dragon Lee’s emergency finish. Dragon Lee did get spiked pretty well, part of his pledge to land on his head in every match. The speed here was a little slower than Dragon Lee’s bigger matches and risk tasking was more one sided, but they did play off each other well and pulled out a few things playing off their previous spots. Niebla Roja came off as a guy very good in CMLL singles match style, but my expectations were for him to show more things I wasn’t expecting and he didn’t quite do that. Still worth watching.

The main event was the usual easy match following a big singles match that makes you wish they had just done the singles match last. Peste Negra got over as easy as usual but the effort wasn’t quite there; this is a Valiente match without a dive, amazingly enough.

Dragon Lee is underrated strong

The usual bit of unexpected finishes in a Panther match, though it doesn’t seem to ever amount to as much it could be, and the surprise of the roll ups at the end mitigates the big Terrible/Panther ending they seemed like they were head towards. It’s kind of a teaching match, don’t expect everything to be wrapped up nicely, but it doesn’t make for this to be much of a match. The Panther stands out much more than his brother, who had little presence in this match.

Drone looked great, so then Canelo Casas beat him to win the tercera and everyone was sad. I’m not sure how I feel yet about Drone’s new shoulder tattoo. This match really was one more positive wrestler away from being good match but what can you do. Forastero is a useful luchador even outside of his trio, which is nice to see.

bad times for Star Jr.

We saw most of the opener, which appeared to be the usual minis match and maybe unnecessary to see. Stukita was super charismatic as always, Eléctrico had good moves with odd hesitations as always. Pequeño Violencia wouldn’t be wearing the Ingobernables logo if La Sombra was still alive.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-04-25 

Panther triple tope

Recapped: 04/30/2017

Matches: 

  1. Canelo Casas & Espanto Jr. beat Flyer & Magnus (9:53 [5:15, 1:59, 2:39], 1/3, ok)
  2. Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Sangre Azteca beat Oro Jr., Starman, Stigma (18:07 [8:46, 3:53, 5:28], 1/3, ok)
  3. The Panther beat Sagrado in a lightning match (9:32, springboard dropkick, good)
  4. Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys beat Drone, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. (15:34 [5:39, 4:14, 5:41], 2/3, ok)
  5. Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Johnny Idol beat Gran Guerrero, Luciferno, Mephisto (8:26 [2:55, 2:37, 2:54], 1/3 ok)
  6. Dragón Lee, Mistico, Valiente beat Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero (10:52 [2:48, 2:45, 5:19], 1/3, ok)

What Happened:

Metalico’s dance numbers are more exciting than his matches

Niebla Roja continues to not get along with his partners, wanting to fight the técnicos fairly instead and by himself. Niebla Roja blamed his partners for the loss and demanded a singles match with Dragon Lee for next week. Dragon Lee accepted, though he tried to make it a mask vs mask one. Roja did not agree.

The semimain didn’t really get going to any great level, and finished iffy because they were down a man. Johnny Idol not being totally sure he won the first fall until Blue Panther gave him some approval was definitely the highlight.

Thoughts:

watch where you’re rolling

It’s good we’re finally getting the Dragon Lee/Niebla Roja match on a stream, and it’s not like this turn is taking much longer than normal, but it still makes these matches kind of useless in the meantime. The Guerrero seem to be far more successful while breaking up than any other team in history. There were some good moments but the angle stopped the match from really going anywhere.

Angel de Oro seems to hurt his back by sometime in the middle fall. He’s grabbing when he ought not to be selling it, and goes thru some lengths not to fall on it when Gran Guerrero decides to give him a chokeslam. Replays suggest he threw it out trying to give Luciferno a tilt-a-whirl backbreaker. The match stops before the third fall as he’s carefully loaded into the stretcher and taken away. The match finishes 2 on 3 with a messy third fall.

Johnny Idol, briefly confused winner

Everyone seemed fired up to for a big match in the first fall of TGR/tecnicos fourth match. That was done by the second fall and they were easily on cruise control. The big with the rudos catching all the técnicos and throwing them into the crowd was nice but maybe should’ve been saved for a match where they were trying more of the way.

The lightning match was an entertaining match to me that didn’t seem to entertain the crowd as much – they couldn’t have been any quieter for most of this match. Panther is trying to get the crowd going more often (and borrowing some of his father’s tricks) and it still didn’t seem to do much for the Tuesday crowd. Both guys brought out their bigger moves and worked all the way to the time limit, only slowing down a bit at near the end, but it would’ve been funnier in front of a crowd that cared.

he dove into the front row, sorta

Starman was pinned inches away from the técnico corner in the second match, and Oro & Stigma seemed to have no interest in extended the match. I applaud them for this decision. Like many an Arkangel match, this felt like it went on and on and I’d yet only three minutes had passed. The botched monkey flip/sunset flip bit was hilariously terrible. They tried, Stigma did a tope into an armdrag even in a second match, but it just wasn’t all that interesting. Maybe Edgar didn’t try as much – Metálico appeared to be the captain in the second fall, and Arkangel suddenly was in the third fall.

Canelo Casas being smart enough to trip up Flyer for trying a top rope move in the rudo corner was a smart Canelo Casas moment. And the dropkick at the end was a well timed finished. This what passes for a good Canelo Casas match.

 

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-04-11 

such a long way

Recapped: 04/13-15/2017

Matches: 

All matches all aired on live from Arena Mexico, and can be seen on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

  1. Akuma & Metálico beat Bengala & Flyer (1/3, 12:27 [5:39, 2:41, 4:07], ok)
  2. Astral, Príncipe Diamante, Stigma beat Disturbio, Raziel, Sangre Azteca (1/2 DQ [Raziel mask removal Stigma], 13:53 [7:34, 6:19], OK)
  3. Princesa Sugehit beat Zeuxis in a lightning match (grounded satellite armbar, 7:34, good)
  4. Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora beat Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Titán (2/3, 14:38 [4:37, 5:53, 4:08], good)
  5. Black Terry & Negro Navarro © defeated Blue Panther Jr. & The Panther to keep the Arena Coliseo Tag Team Championship (1/3, 20:58 [8:39, 3:18, 9:01], great)
  6. Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Terrible beat Máximo Sexy, Valiente, Volador Jr. (1/3, 7:32 [2:36, 1:40, 3:16], ok)

What happened: 

Negro Navarro & Black Terry kept the Arena Coliseo tag team titles over the Panthers. The Panther landed hard on his left hip on a late tope. He’s limping the rest of the way, but finishes the match and seems to be fine a couple days later.

Terrible beat Maximo cleanly win the Terrible Clash in the main event and demanded a title shot next week.

In a match between the three smallest main division técnicos and three of the smallest rudos, Raziel unmasked Stigma for a straight fall técnico win.

Thoughts: 

unusual counter

The tag title match was the match to watch. It was competitive and interesting even while being slower than other matches on the show. It was great to see Blue Panther in that type of environment: it’s not just his ability and knowledge of holds that makes him interesting, but his willingness and interest in getting the holds over that make him stand out. Navarro may (may) have a deeper back of tricks than Panther, but Panther also made all of Navarro’s holds feel like the meant something, and that was in actual danger of getting beat. Navarro was more like he was trapped in a puzzle but not in any great discomfort.

Navarro is great at coming up with holds in unusual sequences; the clutch submission to block a casadora wasn’t as dangerous as the kimura/elbow scissors thing, but it came as a ‘new’ counter to a normal spot. The more differnet options you have to for from one hold to another, the more drama you can pull out of a match.

always dropkicking

The last few minutes felt like an almost different match, definitely a different style of match. The Panther would fit in with the many young guys Terry’s fought in IWRG on indies, and Terry gave him a few moments to shine before he put him away. I really wish CMLL had shown a replay of the last Panther dropkick; he had to go an incredible length to land it, but they shot it from behind Terry so you couldn’t see if it missed. It obviously didn’t, and they could’ve gone back to it. Terry sticking his fingers in Panther’s eye holds to pull Panther around for the sleeper doesn’t come thru on a gif, but was a nice rudo move.

I liked this match a little more than the Junior cibernetio match a couple days later. There were iffy moments here (Terry & Panther seemed confused at one point) and not as big spots, but there were plenty of good moments and they made winning the Arena Coliseo Tag Championship feel like it meant a whole lot. Navarro did sell the importance of the outcome.

Titan moonsault

The rest of the show didn’t have those highs, but was still reedemable. The Zeuxis/Sugehit lightning match was easily better than they one they had in Puebla, a bit more alive and a bit more clever. They even managed to work Tirantes’ mugging into it, with the crowd very excited to see Zeuxis go after him until she gets cradled. Zeuxis’ moonsault is also looking better that more she tries it, though I’m not sure she’s ever going to actually hit. Finishing sequence was the same one they’ve done, and it feel like they’re ending this feud instead of advancing it, but it’s really solid action.

The Revolucionarios trios was not extraordinary, just their normal entertaining match against midcard técnicos but one executed well. No one makes more out of sunset flips into dropkicks than those guys. It was an ideal group to go against them – Maya has good chemistry with Dragon Rojo, Titan got off a spectacular moonsault, and Fuego is an great third man. It kind of seems like the rudos have hit the highest level of match quality they’re going to get without the técnicos adding more (like a group and team work) or something being on the line, but there are worst quality levels to be stuck with. Like the first two matches.

The main event was the rushed variety of the Tuesday main event. Effort was there, but not for long. Terrible & Maximo mixed up well enough that there should be some hope of Big Match Maximo and not Comedy Maximo next week. Security shoving Valiente so he wouldn’t tip over the rail was peculiar. Maximo & Volador having so many new shirts is very peculiar.

no Valientes allowed

CMLL Martes de Glamour: 2017-04-04 

Shockercito & Demus

Recapped: 04/09/2017

Matches: 

All matches aired live from Arena México, and are available on CMLL’s YouTube channel

Flyer & Sensei (2/3) Camorra & Espanto Jr. (13:13 [4:53, 3:30, 4:50], ok)

Eléctrico, Fantasy, Shockercito  (2/3) Demus 3:16, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito (11:25 [5:14, 2:42, 3:29], ok)

Virus (submission) Astral in a lightning match (6:10, ok)

Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther (1/3) Black Terry, Negro Navarro, Sangre Azteca (13:58 [7:53, 2:31, 3:34], good)

Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys (2/3) Guerrero Maya Jr., Máximo Sexy, Rey Cometa (8:57 [3:04, 3:01, 2:52], ok)

Carístico, Marco Corleone, Valiente (1/3) La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush (7:25 [3:52, 3:33], ok)

What happened:

CMLL wackiness

Pierroth and Valiente feuded all match, with Pierroth fouling and Valiente at the end. Los Ingobernables attacked Tirantes when he called for the DQ, and Tirantes actually “accidentally” took down Pierroth.

The Panther challenged for a tag title shot following his brother submitting Negro Navarro for the win. Navarro & Terry thanked the crowd and Arena Mexico for giving them a chance to wrestle there, and accepted the challenge. The first fall had Blue Panther Jr. submitting Sangre Azteca, and Negro Navarro & Blue panther double pinning each other. They get stuck in a leg lock, and Pompin seems confused at who won the fail by the time he sorted it out.

Thoughts: 

Terry breaking arms

The Navarro/Terry match was good as something much different than a normal Tuesday match. The mat work, the mean shots to set thoes holds up (like Panther’s stomp on Negro Navarro’s heel before locking on a hold), it felt like a different fight than usual. Even Sangre Azteca, who was totally extraneous to the match, wasn’t trying to force in all his spots as usual and knew when to stay out of the way. The Panther showed more than Blue Jr., who mostly did a normal CMLL match, but they all made a good job of making Terry & Navarro look dangerous. The crowd took them, with enough people who knew who they were to get behind them. This was a successful match.

The minis match was a total Shockercito show, where he got in all the hot moves, got the real upset fall win, and took the pinfall. I don’t know that Shoerkcito was everyone’s pick for the next minis champion, but matches like this, where he’s spinning around Demus four times one on headscissors, make him look like the best guy. His two partners couldn’t have been more anonymous, Shockercito alone might have carried it to a good level. Fantasy’s only impact on the match was a bad looking double elimination spot with Pequeño Olímpico.

the main event finish

Astral’s win/loss record since going to the main roster hasn’t been great, but neither has his performance. He has a chance to show off what makes him special in this one, and really didn’t stand out all that much. If you like a guy who will flip off the apron to avoid a kick, he’s the one for you, but he’s a generic muscle bound flyer. The standards for being a flying guy are higher in the main division (and he was definitely the best guy at even as a mini), and Astral’s just not one of the better guys here. On the other hand, CMLL’s not really taken performance into account when it comes to who wins and losses in the past.

There’s nothing much to say about the other matches. The semimain got the crowd more than other two, but they were very generic CMLL matches.