Tag: Cibernetico

AAA 01/06/07

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GdT show, taped 12/08. I watched this over two weeks, so I don’t quite have the best memory of it the whole show now. The main event was quite not good – the week before was better. Cibernetico needs to figure out something to do when he’s in control as a tecnico, because he had nothing here. Not that the crowd cared at all.

The four way wasn’t as bad as I thought it’d be. The Dark Family/Mexican Powers match was going along as well as it possible could, but then things brought down when the Mexican Powers got to do wacky double teams. Which is what you expect. I dunno that the Muerte run in that match accomplished anything, but I can’t be too concerned about Crazy Boy’s wellbeing.

The goal this week is to at least cut my lag to one episode, and to fly thru the recap episodes to accomplish it. If I ever did catch up, I have plans to take advantage of it, but it’s gotta happen first.

01/13 AAA TV Results, 01/25 AAA TV lineup

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Sure enough, the AAA results are up on their site right when I’ve given up on them for the day.

AAA TV (SAT) 01/13 Plaza de Toros El Pinal Results
1) Nemesis AAA, Pegasso, Super Fly, Terry 2000 b Ángel Mortal, Gallego, Mr. Cóndor, Police Man
2) Gran Apache, Mini Abismo Negro, Rossy Moreno b Billy Boy, Fabi Apache, Mascarita Sagrada
3) Alan, Decnnis b Juventud Guerrera, Psicosis II [AAA TAG, torneo]
4) Escoria, Espiritu b Alan Stone, Zumbido [AAA TAG, torneo]
5) Alberije, El Elegido, Oriental DQ Abismo Negro, Antifaz del Norte, Histeria
6) Charly Manson, Chessman, Cibernetico DQ Intocable, La Parka Jr., Octagón

The account of the main event says La Parka Jr. got suspended for a month of TV for fouling Cibernetico, which doesn’t sound quite right. Especially since the Vipers were DQed for excessive violence, busted Elegido open, and gave the Black Hammer to referee Hijo de Tirantes (sending him to the hospital), and none of them got suspended. They’re pushing the idea that Cibernetico is purposely making La Parka Jr. go crazy so he can have all of AAA to himself, and I don’t know where that’s going.

It reads like Juvi accidently hit his partner leading to their tag loss. You know, if they do the rumored Mexican Powers break, there’s the problem of Juvi still teaming with Psicosis in this tournament till June. Maybe Extreme Tiger can take his place? Maybe Nicho for a double Psicosis tag team!

They’re spelling the AULL Lightweight Champion’s name “Ferry 2000”. Typos are killer.

In addition to the already posted 01/20 lineups (look down a few posts), AAA’s listed the taping after that.

AAA TV (FRI) 01/25 Gimnasio Agustin Millian Lineup
1) Terry 2000, Pegasso, Super Fly vs Sepulturero, Policeman, Toxico
2) Mini Abismo Negro, Jerrito Estrada, Mini Charly Manson vs Mascarita Sagrada, Octagoncito, Mascartia Divina
3) Pimpinela Escarlata & May Flowers vs Joe Lider & Crazy Boy vs Alan & Decnnis vs ??? & ?? [AAA TAG]
4) Alebrije, Elegido, Laredo Kid, Oriental vs Abismo Negro, Histeria, Antifaz, ?
5) Cibernetico, Chessman, Charly Manson vs Cuervo, Scoria, Ozz

How the heck can you can a mystery tag team in this tournament this far along? All I can figure is they’re replacing a team (or they have no idea what they’re doing, sure.)

STANDINGS
P M
6 2 Crazy Boy & Joe Lider *
6 2 Cuervo & Ozz
6 2 Super Fly & Rey Cometa/Pegasso *
3 1 Alebrije & El Brazo
3 2 Alan Stone & Zumbido
3 2 Espiritu & Scoria *
3 2 Mascara Divina & Oriental
3 2 Charly Manson & Pirata Morgan
3 2 Alliens, Gran Apache *
3 2 El Angel, Laredo Kid
3 2 Alan & Decnis *
0 1 Chris Stone & Hator *
0 1 Antifaz & Histeria
0 1 El Elegido & Intocable
0 2 May Flowers, Pimpinela Escarlata *
0 2 Juventud Guerrera & Psicosis II

As requested, an updated tag tournament block is listed here, for comedy’s sake.

01/18: IWRG, Box Y Lucha

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CMLL

IWRG (SUN) 01/14 Arena Naucalpan Results
1) Trauma I, Trauma II b Golem, Puma King
2) Bacteria, Freelance, Turbo b Avisman, Black Terry, Black Thunder
3) Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro, Suicida DQ El Hijo del Diablo, Fantasma de la Ópera, Veneno
4) Camorra, Canek, Mascara Ano 2000 b Dos Caras, Negro Navarro, Sagrado
5) Electroshock b Mascara Sagrada [1, IWRG IC HEAVY]

Electro gets his title shot versus Canek on 02/04; I’m shocked they’ve announced the date. Trios champs lost the tercera when Fantasma piledrove Suicida, which will do it to you every time.

Ovaciones’ preview of IWRG’s Sunday card says the Corp/tecnicos atomicos has been changed to a trios match for the belts.

AAA’s redesigned their site. It’s still not great, but it’s better than a few hours ago when they had some completely unreadable buttons up. They didn’t actually add much of new content.

Box Y Lucha has posted more articles from it’s latest edition
– Cibernetico says the people like them because he’s real, and he’s says what they want to say, to anyone. Ciber echos the “Latin Lover’s forgotten his people” and drops Kawaghi’s name.
– The Villanos share their memories of Villano I. Villano III’s stories all are about winning street fights against thugs with superior numbers.
– India Sioux talks about her start in lucha libre. She’s going be in Japan from 01/23 to 01/30 (or 02/01 by the time she’s back). CMLL.com says Marcela and Hiroka are going as well.
– Pirata Morgan reminds us that the eye patch is not a work, he really has one eye. But he also explains he’s strengthened that one eye so much, he has perfect peripheral vision. That’s why he’s the best in the world.
– Pirata Morgan has a hot daughter, which just boggles my mind. Perla Negra is training (apparently while not wearing much if you believe these pictures), but not yet wrestling.
– Perro Aguayo Jr. tells everyone who think the Perros are cooling off to shut up. Okay. (Guess they’re cooling off.)
– Rambo talks about the saddest day in his life; the day his father died.
– Arena Queretaro celebrates 24 years of lucha libre.

Villano III chats with Box Y Lucha on 01/23 at 2:00pm.

In today’s Ovaciones, Coco Rojo and Super Muneco hype up this weekend’s VIP show by talking about having a mask match…sometime later. For now, it’ just a singles match.

WWE pushed it’s Mexico tour back a week.

03/22 (THU) Mexico City
03/23 (FRI) Mexico City
03/24 (SAT) Chihuahua (not Tijuana)
03/25 (SUN) Monterrey

…so CMLL is totally running the week before. I wonder what they’ll do in a Arena Coliseo Monterrey that week.

Tickets range between $23 up to $183 US. I think Chris Benoit is the biggest lucha libre name value draw included in the list of people on this tour (subject to change); Chavo’s there too, but he hasn’t had much of a Mexican career. They’re going after a different fanbase, so maybe that’ll be fine, but it didn’t seem like things were strong enough last time to do two shows in the same city. Rey Mysterio is not listed as participating at this time.

Sunday is Brazo de Plata’s 30 year anniversary of starting his lucha libre career.

01/17: Coliseo, AAA TV, Monterrey, Guadlajara, Toryumon

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CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 01/16 Arena Coliseo Results
1) Rayo Tapatio I, Rayo Tapatio II b Carrona, Cobalto
2) Danger, Flash, Super Nova b Polvora, Vaquero, Zayco
3) Apocalipsis, Hooligan, Ramstein b Leono, Tigre Blanco, Tigre Metalico
4) Mictlan, Satanico, Virus DQ Emilio Charles Jr., Okumura, Pierroth
5) Dr. Wagner Jr., Rey Bucanero, Shocker b Canek Jr., Mephisto, Ultimo Guerrero

Misterioso II and Tarzan Boy were replaced by Cnaek Jr. and Mephisto in the main event. Pierroth fouled Virus to get DQed in his match. Leono and one of the Tigres needs to team with a bear.

AAA TV (SAT) 01/20 Parque de Beisbol, Guanajuanto, Guanajuanto
1) Estrellita, Fabi Apache, Cinthia Moreno vs Tiffany, Rossy Moreno, Miss Janeth
2) Chris Stone, Hator vs El Apache, Alliens vs Pegasso, Super Fly vs Scoria, Espiritu [AAA TAG, 1st]
3) Juventud Guerrera, Joe Lider, Psicosis II, Crazy Boy vs Pirata Morgan, Drake, Barba Roja, Pirata Morgan Jr.
4) Alebrije, Elegido, Laredo Kid, Angel vs Abismo Negro, Histeria, Antifaz, ?
5) Octagon, Super Porky, Gronda II vs Scorpio Jr., Alan Stone, Zumbido

They’re doing a “surprise Viper” bit again in the 4th. This is an Octagon tribute show for hitting 25 years of wrestling, so I think you can figure how that main event is going. No La Parka Jr., as he got suspended for a month of shows last tapings. No Hellbrothers because they have no one to fight? Maybe just because it’s Octagon’s night.

RFC is hearing three Mexican wrestlers will probably be joining AAA, either at their first show in Monterrey or the TV taping after.

AAA (SUN) 1/14 Arena Azteca Budokan Results [KrisZ]
1) Drako & Rey Dragon b Takuya & Willy el Exotico
2) Dorado, Galatico, Triple X defeated Flanagan, Ricky Gonzalez, Judas
3) Angel & Fishman Jr. b Histeria & Pirata Morgan Jr.
4) Oriental & Cinthia Moreno b Espiritu & Rossy Moreno [AAA MIXED TAG]
5) Elegido & La Parka Jr. b Abismo Negro & Charly Manson

Judging by the cover of the Box Y Lucha 2801, it’s Cibernetico’s turn to call Latin Lover out. (India Sioux is headed to Japan?)

indy (SUN) 01/14 Arena Coliseo Monterrey Results
1) Corazon Adicto, La Pulga b Angel Negro, Guerrero Griego
2) Burrito, Mini Burro b Toro Blanco, Turbina
3) Ejecutor, La Bestia, Red Flamer b La Kalaka, Nacho Libre, Vagabundo
4) Sky, Turbina b Androide, Rey Sagitario
5) Pancho Tequilla b Golden Boy
6) Konnan Big, La Bella, Vudu b Dulce Poly, Humberto Garza Jr., Sky [cage, electric]

LA Park talked to Ovaciones today. He claimed his feud wasn’t with other wrestlers – it was with the fans in Arena Mexico! I think he could take ’em. Park finds the fans too moody – he acts tecnico, they boo him, he acts rudo, they start cheering him, what gives? Park’s goal for this year is to the take Dr. Wagner’s mask, and he’ll take the fight outside of CMLL if they keep protecting Wagner and refusing to do the match. It’s good he has a backup plan.

Wrestlers Iron Man and Scorpion were honored by the Box Y Lucha comission of Merecieron. (El Manana)

You may have already seen this elsewhere yesterday, but if you haven’t, there’s a show called Viva La Lucha that’s selling itself at the National Association of Television Program Executives conference this week. (It’s probably over by the time you read this.) The trailer’s entertaining in itself, just for the randomness. I’m sure I see WWE (SmackDown and old ECW footage) and TNA clips in there, but the stuff with a Flash – that’s gotta be RXLL, right? If I understand this correctly, this is merely a hype video to find people (a cable company? someone with money!) to get excited enough about the product to talk them, and not actually a preview, but I don’t expect to hear anything more about this. The studio behind it appears to be reputable, but it doesn’t seem like this is farther along than the concept stage. (Thanks to mikeinformer)

The next Toryumon Mexico show will be on 03/04 in Arena Coliseo, and will feature the promised/threatened NWA International Junior Heavyweight Title tournament. Is this the Zero One Title or the one prior to it? Is that a stupid question? I have no idea. This title better be going back to Japan regardless. Anyway, it’s an 8 man tournament, and current first round match ups are

Hijo de Pierroth (Puerto Rico) vs Alex Koslov (Russia)
Chad Malenko (USA) vs Shocker (Mexico)
Hirooki Goto (Japan) vs Veneno (Panama)
Tajiri (Japan) vs Ultimo Dragon (Japan)

I don’t think Hijo de Pierroth will be bringing home the gold. Yes, I know there are lies up there, but I think that’s what we’re supposed to roll with here. Main event isn’t announced, will theoretically feature Mexicans. They’ll also be Toryumon shows on 05/10 (Acapulco) and 05/12 (annual Arena Mexico show – happy birthday to me). [DGUSA and KrisZ]

There’s a thread on Box Y Lucha theorizing why Arena Coliseo Guadalajara isn’t drawing well.

Recent (and not so Recent) Box Y Lucha Articles

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Box Y Lucha posted many magazine’s worth of articles at the end of last week. Let me try to link to everything for no good reason:

CMLL Owner Slightly Upset

Francisco Alonso is a somewhat angry man. Apparently, after the CMLL vs AAA match on the telethon, someone on air suggested they do a show together – the CMLL owner says no way, and the last time they did, AAA ended up hiding in it’s locker room at the end of the show, and he doesn’t want to deal with that again. He’s also very unhappy with Arturo Rivera coming to CMLL for a few weeks and Alfonso Morales going to AAA for a few weeks. He notes that was out of his control, but states that they have at least 50 new faces they want to get over (QUE?) and has no time for helping out other companies.

In a completely random and seemingly unrelated note, Alonso sounds very enthused about how the CMLL Bodybuilding event and hopes it becomes an annual event. I would be worried about such a statement, but if it’s anyone added more muscle, it’s Olimpico, and he’s got absolutely no push out of it. This fits with the general belief Alonso is divorced from the day to day decision making.

Year End Voting

– Rudo of the Year: Black Warrior (CMLL) and Chessman. Both have new legions of fans – Warrior’s surprised, but Chessman figures people just started using common sense.
– Mistico’s listed as wrestler of a year on the cover, but that article wasn’t posted. If they’re doing split ones there, I’d assume Cibernetico would be the other one.
– Four Man Team Of The Year: Los Mexican Powers. They do have the belts. Juvi says all of us who thought they were an imitation of the Mexicools were wrong. I’m going to hang my head in shame.

Inexplicable
– Mil Mascaras bio, which is explicable. The crazy section is where they discuss the idea of a Mil Mascaras Jr., Mil’s all “no one else could live up to me” as you’d expect Mil to be, and then mentions a conversation with Rey Misterio Jr. the other day, where Rey explained to Mil that there’s another international guy who’s a copy of him – Tiger Mask.

(what?)

Mil also gives a thumbs down to Nacho Libre, in case you were waiting to find out.

Feud Hype

– Before their match at Guerra de Titanes (that’s how old some of these are), Muerte Cibernetica and Cibernetico cut promos on each other. Muerte thanks his fans, who obviously recognize him as he truly is: the messiah. Cibernetico is nicknamed “The King Of Pumping Iron”. That’s an opening for like 500 jokes and I’m not going to make any of them for some odd reason.

– Mistico wants to fight Averno for masks because it’s a match the fans want to see, and Averno doesn’t want to wait to the anniversary show to do it. They’re very much pushing that the match is agreed to, just not the date.

AAA pretty boys angry, still pretty

Remember how Latin Lover claimed AAA wrestlers were ripping him off and wouldn’t go back unless they were ditched? Yea, well, Intocable and Elegido took that one as well as you might think.

Intocable says Latin Lover has hated him from day one and Super Calo and Winners were the true innovates of dancing. Unlike Latin Lover, Intocable notes he didn’t abandon his wrestling fans one he found a little bit of mainstream popularity. Intocable would actually NOT like to face Latin Lover in a match – they’re both tecnicos and the fans wouldn’t want to see them fight, but he’s defintely not scared of Latin Lover. Intocable notes Latin Lover isn’t coming back to AAA any time soon, so he must be totally scared.

Elegido also goes with the “Latin’s abandoned his fans” idea. Elegido states that he’s not imitating or stealing from anyone, he’s got his own unique style. Elegido notes that he came to AAA to take Latin Lover’s place, which kinda makes Latin Lover right, but I shouldn’t be arguing with a professional stripper who just wants to share his talents with the public, as he proclaims. (I imagine Elegido bellowing all these quotes for some reason.) Elegido, AAA historian, says Latin Lover didn’t know how to dance and didn’t have a good body until Antonio Pena made him into the man he is today – Elegido knew all that stuff before he started wrestling, so he couldn’t be ripping anyone off. It took Latin Lover 14 years to get the fans Elegido’s gotten in 7 months, which proves something. Elegido ends by thanking Latin Lover for leaving AAA.

Bios/Intervews
= Blue Demon Jr. talks about wrestling in Arena Mexico for the Teleton show and whatever, but the real thing I took out of this one was the 11/20 Teleton show was supposed to be CMLL vs UWA! Maybe I’m just dumb for taking two months to understand this, but I think that’s topped by CMLL doing an interpromtoional rivalry angle like 13 years after the other promotion died. If AAA dies this year, we can look forward to a big AAA vs CMLL show in 2020. Anyway, Demon does say some noteworthy stuff – he was 70% sure he’d be wrestling in Arena Mexico to start ’07 (not yet) so he can prop up attendance, he’s hoping the CMLL vs indy show becomes an annual event, and he’s thinking he’s not still a member of the Perros.
– Konnan states it was never even a consideration that he would run AAA, but he’s just there to help – like by bringing people with actual talent fron TNA. (LANCE HOYT!)
– Coloso Colosetti, who debuted in 1963 and claims still to be wrestling occasionally, had testicular surgery on 12/20. He says he’ll recover in three months, and then go on a farewell tour.
– Alex Koslov! talks about wrestling in Mexico. He’s learned more in the time in Mexico than the 4 years prior; he chalks that up partially to wrestling guys with a lot more experience, rather than the young men of similar age you’ll find on the US indy scene. Alex loves Mexican women and is looking into making one his fiancee. Also, Alex’s lost his hair while in Mexico – but not in a match, he just had a barber who had no idea what he was doing.
– Octagoncito talks about the death of his father last November and his goals for 2007.
– Mano Negra talks about winning the mask. When the referee raised Atlantis hand, Mano Negra was not sad. He knew, inside, he was a winner who just lost a battle, but not the way. (How’s that war going against Atlantis now?) He’s been wrestling for 36 years now.
– Brazo de Plata Jr. talks about joining AAA. His mother was a little bothered by him changing his name to Kronos, so he’s happy to be back to Plata. He sidesteps any real talk about why he changed names in the first place.
– Flash which is basically the same one elsewhere I posted a week ago.
– Sergio Iván Angulo, Arena Coliseo Ring Announcer? I mean, they say he is, but I don’t remember ever seeing him. I’ll look closer.
– Wolf Ruvinsky
– Bio of Dr. Gama

Obits
– Merced Gómez
– Tigre Canadiense
– Blue Demon
– Love Machine
– Eddie Guerrero

Random

– thoughts on recent Tijuana news
– Bio of Golden Boy, who’s real name is Alfonso Morales but isn’t that Alfonso Morales. Unless this is an elaborate prank.
– Various wrestlers share stories of Dia de Reyes when they were children. For Nemesis and Super Fly, this may have been last year. They ask Alex Koslov about Dia de Reyes in Russian, and he’s like “we never had it – must’ve been too cold!”

GdR #58

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12/30/06

Another just okay segunda match, a long-ish main event – long enough that I should’ve gone back and see if I actually timed it correct – but nothing special here. I predict this will get a 0 for 2 on the F4 show.

Appearances in the last six weeks…
1: Mistico
3: Leono and La Mascara
4: Loco Max and Arkangel
5: Fabian el Gitano
7: Sangre Azteca

I know CMLL’s roster isn’t this small, but it sure seems that way of late. It would improve things dramatically if, instead of showing a segunda with the same guys yet again, they’d mix it up and grab the opening match or the tercera.

speaking of TV: I watched the last half of AAA’s main event today (from the pre-GdT show), and reached two conclusions
– the matches still aren’t good (though seeing Cibernetico Hulk Up, complete with three punches, was entertaining in it’s own way)
– oh my gosh, Cibernetico’s super over. Especially with the girls. Like if there was no one booing Cena.

I mean, it may not be something I want to pay for, but it’s something a lot of people will be paying to see – if they can ride this wave in 2007, they’re going to be doing enormous business. The one missing piece is new opposition if Ricky is gone (or even if he isn’t, at some point it’ll be run into the ground). Shocker would’ve been perfect for this spot if he had stuck around, and Scorpio can’t quite replace him there. Konnan was pushed in a position where he’d normally be next, but obviously that’s not happening, and none of the Sect or TNA guys have built a individual presence that’d make it work. La Parka Jr. ain’t turning rudo. Pirata? Abismo? I dunno.

(FWIW, I think the idea of Bucanero jumping doesn’t work anymore. The spot is gone. Wagner or Silver King might be fun, but I don’t think either of them could stomach working rudo stooge to Cibernetico’s tecnico hero.)

If the Toluca crowd is any fair representation, though, Cibernetico’s so over, it may not matter who he’s facing.