of Cibernetico and t-shirts

The big story I’ve ignored all weekend are rumors about Cibernetico leaving AAA. The story goes, the angle with Cibernetico quitting the promotion after Konnan takes control is not purely angle, Cibernetico’s unhappy about Konnan’s influence and so he wants out. This rumor was floating out there before this weekend – SuperLuchas normally ignores AAA (because AAA wants certain rights about how it’s covered, and SuperLuchas would prefer to ignore than assent), but passed along this rumor in this week’s magazine.*

That was written before AAA’s tapings wrapped up. In the main event, billed as Cibernetico’s last match there before officially leaving. (He’s actually booked on a spot show tomorrow, another on Wednesday, another on Sunday…) After his match, Cibernetico put on a Perros del Mal shirt, breaking the internet message boards in half.

You could read this a couple of ways
– Cibernetico’s bringing Los Perros to fight the Legion
– Cibernetico’s joining the Los Perros promotion (which ByL says will debut on 11/30)

They’re pushing it towards the second, but…this is a year of doing a lot of WWE knockoff angles. That’s not what they’re doing here – it’s a WCW knockoff angle instead.

Cibernetico = Brian Pillman.
(sorry to those were just vastly offended)

Cibernetico is meant to have left AAA, according to the storyline, so it’s logical he’d be wrestling some place. He could put on a CMLL shirt, but CMLL could shoot it down in a second**. If you’re Perro Aguayo Jr., you’re so thrilled you get mentioned on a show people watch to remind everyone you’re still out there, you’re more than willing to play along with AAA’s angle for your own benefit.

In the interest of making the storyline look legit to those who don’t believe these sorts of storylines, they tease that it’s really really, and have Cibernetico wear the shirt. If they can string it out long enough, and Perro Jr. has his act together enough, maybe they even have Cibernetico work the first Perros show, just to prove the point. Whatever it takes to make people believe Cibernetico’s really gone, so his (inevitable) big return seems like a bigger deal.***

AAA’s current goals publicity goals appear to are to get gossip people to talk about them and work the internet, and this fits with both well.

In the short term, AAA and Cibernetico are going to do whatever it take to make you think Cibernetico’s somehow escaped the script and really will not be coming back to the company to put things back the way they always are.

In the long term, Cibernetico’s coming back to AAA and putting things back the way they always are. There’s always the chance things don’t turn out like they plan (see Pillman), but there is a plan here anyway.

* – this was mentioned in the last page Caida Extra sidenotes, which are often the most interesting part of the magazine. I understand why the whole magazine isn’t this way, but it doesn’t prevent me from craving more of it.

** – they could, but CMLL could also buy into it like goofs, but they still wouldn’t be the rebellious outsiders so nevermind

*** – you might notice, this is exactly what CMLL wanted to do with Perro Jr. before things fell apart there. Also, this makes the Perros promotion ECW, though I don’t want to guess who’s New Jack

Cibernetico quits AAA? (No.)

According to their website, Cibernetico and AAA have come to agreement to split ways, thanks to the new Konnan regime.

This is an angle. I hope I don’t need to bold/underline/italicize that. You think, if we’re supposed to be treating Konnan as truly in control and getting rid of all he doesn’t like, that post would be followed by one canning, let’s say, Elegido. There’s a perfect place to start.

There’s actually relevant AAA stuff in the newest Observer (the US indy guys to debut this month would be New Talent Signed By Konnan, which actually makes a lot of sense, except everyone in the locker room is so angry about it, it may not happen) but this is a lot funnier as a parody of Perro Jr. that it gets the headline. Above all, entertain me.

10/10 AAA TV Results (Queretaro)

AAA TV (FRI) 10/10 Auditorio Municipal Jose Maria Arteaga de Queretaro
1) Fabi Apache & Mari Apache b Ayako Hamada & Cinthia Moreno
2) Alan Stone & Chris Stone b Jack Evans & Teddy Hart
3) El Mesias DQ Chessman
4) Electro Shock & Konnan b Octagón & Súper Fly
5) Killer Clown, Psycho Clown, Zombie Clown b Cuervo, Escoria, Espiritu
6) Cibernetico b Zorro

2008 AAA TV Taping List
Projected Air Date (#857)
Mexico: 10/12
US: 11/01

You know how I sometimes complain about AAA doing three months of angles on one show, and then no angles for three months? This was the one with all the angles.

The show started with another promo. I’ll let you know when AAA blocking their show out like WWE stops being hilarious. Konnan was in ring with the urn, calling out Roldan so he could hand over his demands (which go unrecorded in AAA’s recap.) Roldan came out with security, who were promptly taken out by Jack, Teddy, Zorro and Electro. Roldan had more help, and Chris Stone, Alan Stone, Killer Clown, Zombie Clown, Psycho Clown (Psycho Circus is AAA!), Octagon, and Super Fly ran out to attack the Legion. In the scrum, Alan got the urn, but it turned out to be a fake. Konnan gave Roldan a two hour dealine to accept the demands, or else.

Opener doesn’t get much write up, just the Apaches beating the rudas.

As the second match was going on, D-Generation-Mex interrupted from the stage to introduce their newest member, Alex Koslov. This distracted Jack & Teddy and cost them the match. After the match, DGM hit the ring to confront Hart Foundation 2. Alex was about to hit Jack with a chair, but X-Pac stopped him, saying they wanted to recruit Evans for the group. X-Pac and Rocky proceeded to beat up Teddy and Nicole with a (sledge?)hammer, causing Teddy to be strechered out.

Clowns are at 210 wins now. The Dark Family (Espiritu replacing Ozz for no mentioned reason) might have won this match, if not for Chessman trying to help out and accidently spearing Espiritu. Psycho covered for the pin.

Fourth match saw Octagon get tied in the ropes and Super Fly killed again like a jobber. After the match, Konnan said the time was up and he wanted Roldan out now. Roldan did come, but instead of meeting Konnan’s demand, suggested a match where if Konnan wins, he keeps the ashes and gets to run AAA, but if Roldan wins, he gets the urn back and Konnan has to retire from wrestling. (I presume they’re having others wrestle this match for them, but it’s not made clear.) Konnan accepted, because he can’t be too worried about having to retire from wrestling; it takes something to show that clip of Konnan losing the retirement match every year while he’s still wrestling, it takes something more to do another match with him and a retirement stip.

Chessman got DQed in his match with Mesias. There’s a mention of excessive violence, but that doesn’t seem to exist in AAA. They also mention him hitting Hijo de Tirantes, which does get you a DQ here. Chessman tied Mesias up in the ropes in a crucfix position (of course!) and poured gasoline on him. Right when Chessman was about to burn Mesias alive, the Dark Family came out – and turned on Chessman. After they finished beating him, they set upon burning Mesias themselves. I guess they really wanted to be the one to do it! This time, Cibernetico made the save for Mesias. And then, the Psycho Circus showed up, and challenged Cibernetico to a match!

If you followed all that, on one read thru, give yourself a gold star. The end product is we’ve got Chessman split right back off from Cuervo/Ozz/Espirtu/Escoria but both groups are still feuding with the iffy Mesias/Cibernetico alliance. And the Clowns are here too.

AAA suggests this may set up a Chessman/Psycho Circus alliance which would not only has potential for entertainment, but could give the Psycho Circus something approaching an endgame (the Dark Family’s atomicos titles.)

In the main event, Zorro lost. That’s all Zorro gets. It seems like Zorro and Konnan are having issues about who’s in charge. Chessman also interrupted the match to challenge Cibernetico to another match. After Cibernetico won, Chessman figured there’s no time like the present and attacked Cibernetico. The save was made by Charly Manson’s music. Charly came out to the stage and said “I have decided to go with…

…” and then he just left. What a jerk!

07/26: AAA to NOAH, Monterrey

AAA/the Animal

Did we ever get an explanation about “the Animal”? I think because there was confusion over who he was and distraction from trying to figure out the 8 other things that happened from scattered reports, we didn’t spend much time discussing this “surprise.”

Hyped surprises always take on lives of their own. It’s somewhat unfair to the promotion – they didn’t say Black Warrior was going to be there, so they shouldn’t be blamed when Warrior doesn’t show up – but then it’s not like this doesn’t happen every time and so promotions should be well aware of what they’re getting into.

I think the Animal was even a disappointment beyond that. He wasn’t bad because he wasn’t Warrior, he was bad because he was some random stiff in a wacky outfit, who it seems we’ll never again (and I’m fine with that.) What the heck happened there? If it was a last minute replacement, then why did they have the suit? If they were planning The Animal all along, why? It’s all so strange.

CMLL says both Perro Aguayo Jr. and Lizmark Jr. will return next Friday. AULL kinda gave this way a week ago by listing both on their card that Saturday.

Noti Triple A says Oriental, Histeria, Antifaz and Laredo Kid will be heading to Japan for NOAH. They start with the promotion on 08/19 (though they’ll leave a couple days sooner.) No return date is announced, but I’d presume they’d stick around till the AAA/NOAH show in September.

You can also see photos of Cibernetico assuatling Annoying Wacky Entertainment Reporter at that site. Surely an angle, but I actually prefer to pretend it’s real, just for the thought of Cibernetico playing “got your nose!” in the middle of an argument.

indy (SUN) 07/29 Arena Coliseo Monterrey [rfc]
1) Aguila Extrema & Iron Extreme vs Akido & Mercurio
2) Barba Roja & Hijo del Pirata Morgan vs Iron & Ramses [super libre]
3) Chiva Rayada, Latin Boiler, Xtreme Tiger vs Alan, Rey Infernal, Super Calo [bull terrier]
4) Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan Jr. vs Hator & Monje Negro Jr. [seconds hair]
5) Intocable & Tinieblas Jr. vs Antifaz & X-Pac

The semimain is fans hair vs Arturo Rivera’s hair.

07/15 AAA TV Results (TripleMania)

Previous: 06/17, 07/01, 07/06

AAA TV (SUN) 07/15 Toreo de Cuatro Caminos
1) Alfa, Casandro, Fabi Apache, Mini Abismo Negro b Cinthia Moreno, Octagoncito, Oriental, Pimpinela Escarlata
2) Gran Apache & Laredo Kid b Super Calo & Super Fly [losers advance, pi]
3) Crazy Boy & Joe Lider b Cuervo & Ozz [AAA TAG]
4) Juventud Guerrera b Fuerza Guerrera [street]
5) Super Fly b Super Calo [mask]
6) Alberije, El Elegido, Super Porky b Alan Stone, Scorpio Jr., Zumbido
7) Head Hunter I, Rikishi, Ron Killings, Sabu b La Parka Jr., Latin Lover, the Animal, Zorro
8) Kenzo Suzuki L Cibernetico, Chessman, Charly Manson, Mesias, X-Pac [cage, hair]

Air Date
Mex: 07/22 – this was a 5 hour show live, so I still think there’s a possibility they split it.
US: 08/11

The following is cribbing heavily from Medio Tempo‘s report, because they’ve got the only detailed account I’ve seen. I’ve bolded a couple of changes I’ve noticed from early reports. You can read prior TripleMania coverage (live, and day after) elsewhere on this webpage.

Charly Manson exited the cage first, followed by X-Pac. X-Pac and Konnan teamed up to lay out Charly on the outside, and set up a whole bunch of tables. Mesias started to escape, Chessman went after him, and that’s when Chessman took the huge bump off the cage to the tables. This left Kenzo and Cibernetico inside. Mesias tried to help by blowing fire at Cibernetico, but Kenzo got it instead, and that lead to the pin.

Konnan got in a cheap shot on Zorro which lead to the Rikishi pin in the semimain. It sounds like Zorro being stretchered out was storyline (selling the Bonzai Drop) while Parka being stretchered out might or might not have been (landed on his bad shoulder while taking a bump for a Sabu move.)

Sangre Chicana and Octagon did work as seconds in the Guerrera v Guerrera battle. Tirantes was the ref, so you can figure how this went early. Octagon did indeed get tied to the ropes to prevent him from helping, and the comeback started with Pepe Casas coming out to cut him free. Somehow in the battle, Sangre Chicana was locked in ambulance to prevent him from interfering, and Juvi pinned Fuerza with Pepe Casas counting. Fuerza offered a handshake post match, but Juvi refused and walked off with Octagon. Juvi should totally decide to be Octagon Jr. now.

In the notLadder match, Extreme Tiger (second) set up Scoria (second) on a table on the floor and went to the top rope to put him thru, but Ozz shoved Extreme Tiger off, and Tiger hit the floor. The table remained unbroken, so Cuervo set up Lider on the table and did hit his dive thru the table, but Lider and Cuervo were hurt in the process. Crazy Boy overcame took out Escoira and Ozz, winning with a (wait for it) chair assisted flying move to Mexican Powers win the tag titles.

Box Y Lucha?/unmasked Super Calo

The Relevos Incredible matchup ended up being Gran Apache & Laredo Kid vs Super Fly & Super Calo, so it was change of plans. Apache & Calo opted to work it like they were tag partners early on, beating down the Fuerza Aerea duo. Somewhere in here, Laredo Kid missed a dive on Calo, but was all right (relatively.) Like recent AAA tag matches, this was one fall to a finish (not elimination style), so when Apache beat Super Fly, it was over.

The Super Fly vs Super Calo match was held after the ladder match and the Guerreras match. Super Calo was revealed to be Rafael Garcia of DF, 15 year wrestler. They did a bit with Alan Stone consoling him to set up the new alliance.

Alebrije & Cuije beat Scorpio Jr. & Guaptio with planchas to win that match.

Alfa beat Oriental with a Dragon Suplex to win the opener. Oriental was KOed in the process.

Lita performed after the show. Ricky Marvin was announced as coming in September.

Announced Future Tapings
07/16 Leon
– 07/23 Madero
– 08/03 Queretaro

07/01 AAA TV Taping Lineup (Monterrey)

Previous: 06/08 (I think I may skip this TV taping when it airs just to forever live in blissful ignorance), 06/10, 06/17

All hail RFC.

AAA TV (SUN) 07/01 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Angel Mortal, Gallego, Mr. Condor vs Canibal, Hombre Sin Miedo, Takeda
2) Diabolica, Fabi Apache, Rossy Moreno vs Cinthia Moreno, Estrellita, Sexi Star
3) Aero Star, Laredo Kid, Pegasso, Super Fly vs Alan, Alfa, Gran Apache, Super Calo
4) Juventued Guerrera vs Fuerza Guerrera [bull terrier]
5) Charly Manson, Chessman, Zorro vs Abismo Negro, Antifaz, Histeria
6) Cibernetico, La Parka Jr., Latin Lover vs Kenzo Suzuki, Ron Killings, X-Pac

Air Date
Mex: 07/08
US: 07/28

Hey, Konnan’s a man of his word – that took about two days. I’m not as high on Killings as people who were watching TNA during this title run, but I’m thinking, if you’ve got to do foreign heels, he’s better than Head Hunter. What a collection on that tecnico side – if they weren’t all out of angles before TripleMania, I’d almost expect a “shock” turn, because it’s less weird than those three.

Mesias is listed with the Vipers team in the semimain (and, one would assume, also there to take Abismo’s place if needed.)

I don’t know if Juvi vs Fuerza in a chain match will be good, but I do believe it’ll be interesting. Joe Lider and Sangre Chicana are seconds.

Let’s all pretend I didn’t give away where they’re going with the Alfa bit. I can’t believe I got that one on blind luck.

No Hamadas? Are the clowns done already?

Tickets are 100 to 300 ($9.3 US to $27.9).

Next Tapings
– 07/08 Puebla
– 07/15 TripleMania
– 07/28 Tlaxaca