taped 2012-09-02 @ Arena Mexico
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Scouting Report: Angel de Oro
a possible occasional feature, explaining luchadors to unfamiliar people
Angel de Oro, a 22 year old tecnico from Gomez Palacio, is about to embark on the most challenging couple of weeks of his career. He’s only had fifteen high level singles matches in his three and half year major league stint to this point, and he’ll be cramming eight more of them into a two weeks span. The outcomes are not an issue, as he’s only expected to follow the great tradition of Mexican wrestlers in Japan and lose a whole lot. The quality of the matches themselves are the challenge, as Oro will be in an unusual scenario working with unfamiliar opponents.
Background
Angel de Oro begin his career at age 17, working tiny shows in the Comarca Lagunera, a Mexican metro area that crosses over two states and fifteen cities. It contains the 9th biggest population in Mexico, but it’s the 3rd most common home area for current CMLL luchadors. This unexpectedly high amount of Laguna born luchadors is credited to older luchadors who’ve made it big coming back to scout and recruit promising youngsters to Mexico City to CMLL affiliated schools. Ultimo Guerrero is often given credit for engineering the pipeline. It’s worked because so many of the young wrestlers, like Angel de Oro, have made the transition and done well for themselves.
Angel de Oro wrestled his brother, then rudo Guerrero Inca, quite often in his first few years of wrestling. The brothers were brought to Mexico City and intended to be introduced as part of a trio of identical high flying Angels to accompany Hector Garza. The trio appeared with Garza once, but then the idea was dropped before they had a match. The mysterious third Angel never was seen again, and brother Angel de Plata (ex-Guerrero Inca) broke his arm in training, causing Angel de Oro to start on his own in August of 2008. Plata joined him in December, and they formed a trio with legacy character Angel Azteca Jr.
The metallic Angels were introduced at the height of CMLL’s Mistico-clone mania. These two brothers, not actually of the same age, wrestled like twin Misticos. The Angels used the same religious imagery, and the same basic colors as Místico (white, gold, silver.) The brothers outfits matched, except for their namesake color. The Angels would do simultaneous mirror spots against their opponents in the ring, then follow with stereo Asai moonsaults onto the rudos. It was a neat idea, but in a promotion where dozen of wrestlers were using the same sets of moves, it did not impact as much as hoped. The Angels frequently wrestled against members of the Guerreros Tuareg, a veteran group of rudos skilled at working with younger wrestlers.
CMLL quickly saw promise in Angel de Oro. It often takes years of work on the undercard before luchadors were given bigger chances, but Oro came along at a time where the promotion was motivated to promote younger wrestlers. Angel de Oro teamed with inspiration Místico to nearly win the 2009 Gran Alternativa tournament (only beaten by Yujiro and Okumura, exploiting a loophole in the rules.) A year later, Angel de Oro was the surprise winner of a midcard cage match, unmasking fellow técnico and frequent partner Fabian el Gitano. As a team, Oro & Plata advanced of a #1 contenders tournament for CMLL’s secondary pairs titles, but were defeated in Oro’s first really great match. It’d be their final important match as a team.
CMLL accelerated plans for Angel de Oro starting in at the end of 2010. Oro and fellow young stars Diamante and Rush were put together, in a number one contenders tournament for the national trios titles. The three had never been a trio previously, but won the tournament and the belts. Angel de Oro also won the 2011 Reyes del Aire high flyer match, though one with noteable less star power than years past. Oro sealed his ascent by winning the heavily promoted Forjando de Idolo tournament, winning all six singles matches to earn a more important spot with the promotion. Plata, meanwhile, lost all three of his qualifying matches and stayed in aimless midcard matches. The two teamed one time after the tournament, and haven’t since.
Angel de Oro’s career since winning the Forjando un Idolo tournament has not been as trimpuh filled. He has risen to the semimain and main event matches, though he’s a seen as a lesser star when he’s on top. The trios title reign with Diamnate and Rush never went anywhere, ending after a single defense. Oro has challenged for Dragon Rojo and Negro Casas for world singles titles, but come up just short. He’s been included in the biggest CMLL tournaments, but not advanced far. Angel de Oro did repeat as Reyes del Air winner, against a slightly tougher crowd. Those wins and the Forjando un Idolo victory are his biggest so far.
Compares To
Angel de Oro is most often compared to Místico, with good reason. Oro’s been rumored to be reintroduced as Místico II, if CMLL decides to bring back the character. It’s probably not he best of ideas for many reasons, most of because Angel de Oro has developed into a slightly different brand of técnico. Oro is now close to a more athletic version of La Mascara. Both Máscara and Oro use classic lucha libre holds as their primary finish, the campana and mecedora. Both are using names which have been used by others previously. Mascara and Angel de Oro share some of the same repeated spots (like the swinging kick from the apron), and also share the tendency to repeat the same series of moves in every match. It does make both Mascara and Oro smooth with their moves when everything is going well. They’re skilled trios wrestlers, but not always able to mix it up in longer form singles matches. Neither is great about showing emotion while they wrestle. Angel de Oro’s mask limits him in that regard, but came sometimes come off as if hes’ wrestling in an empty gym.
Angel de Oro is potentially a lot more exciting than La Mascara, willing to try moonsaults and springboards Mascara has long given up on. Oro is not as a innovative or limit pushing as Místico, Mascara Dorada, or the other kids from Guadalajara, but does what he does well. Like Místico, and La Mascara, the finishes of his matches are usually built towards locking on his one submission hold. Angel de Oro seems to be following the Mascara path of varying the ways he get to the hold, rather than the simple repeated setup Místico used as his pattern.
Prospects
Angel de Oro’s biggest test will be varying his routine. The basic CMLL técnico formula of armdrags, headscissors and dives is not enough when you’re wrestling singles matches every other day. Oro is not that limited, but he also doesn’t have a lot to offer if an injury ever slows him down. Both Sombra and Mascara Dorada felt like they were better than Oro when they had their first league experiences in Japan, and both came with a few new ideas. Oro could use that same sort of result.
Angel de Oro’s not far off from making it. CMLL sees him as a part of their future top técnicos, but he’s got to continuing growing to reach that potential. Oro already being part of main events might give him the impression he’s already made it, so this tournament could be a good reminder of how much more he has to grow. Oro’s not going to be billed as the most spectacular luchadors much longer, with Mascara Dorada (among others) still around in front of him and flashier guys coming behind him. For Angel de Oro to succeed, he’ll need to be a complete wrestler.
3 Matches to check out
2010-10-17: Angel de Oro & Angel de Plata vs Delta & Diamante – breakout match for all four
2011-05-07: Angel de Oro vs Pólvora (fall 2, fall 3) – Oro wins Forjando un Idolo tournament, but the bigger achievement is getting a very good match out of Pólvora.
2012-04-29: Angel de Oro vs Negro Casas: the legend forces Oro to have a different match
Averno responds, Misterioso, Angel de Oro
No sign of Puebla results.
In an interview with Record, Averno denies he’s signed to WWE, says he never tried out with WWE at any point, only allowing that he had some conversations with WWE. He’s critical of those who’ve reported he’s signed with WWE, claiming no one contacted him to get his side and wants the fans to know not to believe these rumors; he’ll prove them wrong by winning at Juicio Final. (There’s a video interview with Averno over on CMLL Gaceta, but it only has to do with his expanding collection of La Mascara masks.)
This is a marked improvement from how CMLL held Mistico’s departure. Last time, they only had a short, seemingly underinformed statement from their press officer, not really strong enough to push back against the tide of the story. Getting Averno out in front of the press is much better crisis management. They’re still going to do the match and I don’t the story is going to keep people away from the show (the lineup not being near as strong or important as TripleMania is a more significant issue.)
The next fire to put out involves Misterioso Jr.; Fuego en el Ring passes along a rumor that Dr. Wagner Jr. has invited Misterioso to join AAA. The article does not mention if Misterioso is interested in actually making the move, just stating that he could. Misterioso is not on any CMLL lineup this week so far, and is not on Juicio Final. Misterioso vs Sangre Azteca have focused more on their rivalry in recent bouts, but CMLL doesn’t seem to have directed it anywhere – it’s not going to be in June, it probably won’t be the Anniversary main event, and there does come a point when one may no longer want to wait for it to happen with no sure promise that it ever will. (They’re willing to wait longer when the day to day payoff is good, but that hasn’t seemed to be the case for some time.)
This week’s SuperLuchas, still on newstands and in app stores!, did mention that among the many people wrestling tryout matches for AAA at their last taping (Astro Boy, Daga, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Drastic Boy) were two mystery luchadors. The author noted they figured out they were CMLL luchadors using other identities, but declined to out their usual identities. I don’t know if either one of them were Misterioso – my hunch is no – but there’s a pattern here. It’s not X/Y/Z promotion taking from CMLL, it’s people in CMLL looking for the exits.
Angel de Oro hopes to keep training with Ultimo Guerrero so he can be a more complete wrestler; the win has him more committed to being a complete wrestler.
This really should’ve gone in the last post, but I’m really not a fan of the Forjando un Idolo concept as it’s now being presented. The tournament was great: people won, people lost, and all the matches mattered and so the concept mattered. The trios matches should be fun, but they’re distilling the concept if they’re just used to promote more trios matches where the results really don’t matter. (They have plenty of those kind of trios matches.) If, say, the trio that does the best in these round robin gets a trios title shot, that’d make it worth it, but that’s something they should get out ahead of time.
Mickie James hypes her TripleMania match in a video. She knows she’s teaming with Sexi Star! She may or may not know who’s she facing.
Black Terry Jr. posted video of Freelance vs Avisman: fall 1, fall 2, fall 3
The Gladiatores has photos from CMLL guys on a shot at Roberto Clemente High School in Chicago this past Saturday. I still have photos and video on my phone, probably should use them at some point. As usual, I could not understand the names of the indy wrestler for most of the day, but the undercard was mostly The Great Malaki (the guy who set his hands on fire at the first DGUSA show in Chicago) and his usual entourage and opponents. Also, randomly, Gringo Loco vs Discovery In A Different Mask, Maybe? Rudos (Atlantis/Averno – Volador was tecnico in his rudo gear) won the three fall main event with a mask pull and a foul.
Rob has highlights of the 09/19/2010 AAA taping.
LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.
Links
- Casandro and Blue Demon in an elevator.
- Cesar talks about the Cien Caras vs Siglo XX mask match, when Siglo had already started wrestling as the Killer by Sunday.
- SuperLuchas remembers Nakamura’s last visit to Japan.
- Mi Lucha Libre looks back at Canek vs Hulk Hogan.
- Bajos Las Capuchas writes about the writer of some of the Santo movies.
- The Gladiatores chats with IWRG opening match luchador Saruman.
- CMLL Gaceta has bios of Diamante, Rey Cometa and Black Warrior
- Luchas 2000 #572 and Box Y Lucha #3027 both focus on La Mascara vs Averno
Averno outsmarts his opposition, Angel de Oro is un Idolo
CMLL (FRI) 05/27/2011 Arena Mexico [Cesar, CMLL, Record (4)]
1) Starman & Tigre Blanco b Disturbio & Mortiz
1/3 for team old man tecnico
2) Dark Angel, Goya Kong, Marcela b Amapola, Estrellita, Princesa Sugheit
1/3 for the tecnicas. In the closing sequence, Amapola took out Goya with a dive, and Goya’s right leg got caught underneath her. She was stretchered out and taken to the hospital for observation.
3) El Alebrije, Histeria, Olímpico b Hijo del Fantasma, Sagrado, Valiente
1/3 for the Invasors. Fantamsa took the swinging gate bomb in the third, and was pinned by everyone for the loss. Finally the Invasors have found the one guy they can beat!
4) Ángel de Oro b Pólvora [Forjando un Idolo, final]
Switched around to the fourth match, so it will air on Televisa. First two falls were quick, Polvora using the nudo lagunero and Angel de Oro using a tapatia variant. Long third fall, Angel de Oro getting the win with a UG style front superplex. Sounded like a really good match, Polvora’s best ever.
5) Héctor Garza, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero b Blue Panther, Strong Man, Super Porky
Rudos take 1/3, capitalizing on some tecnico miscommunication. Niebla & Garza double suplexed Porky for the win.
6) Averno, Terrible, Texano b La Máscara, La Sombra, Máximo
Straight falls for the rudos, Averno specifically. Averno shoved La Mascara off of him into Tirantes, and Tirantes called the DQ on La Mascara in the first. In the second, Tirantes slow counted Mascara on a casita, Mascara turned to punch him, and Averno fouled Mascara and inside cradled him for the quick three.
Ras de Lona mentioned Naito is headed back again. Over in NJPW, Yujiro turned on him a couple of days and Naito was kicked out of the group, so he’s probably getting some time here before returning as a face there.
A lot of focus on Averno & La Mascara, thought I suspect more in the next couple of weeks. The post contract signing fight came off well, and Averno had a getaway driver when he stormed out.
Texano had a TRT shirt, so eventually Bucanero won’t look so goofy wearing a Doble T one. (Though Terrible & Bucanero were standing there in the same bit wearing the old shirt, so it may take some time.)
Things sure are busy for Guerrero Maya, who’s got a Sunday feud, a Tuesday title tournament (introduced all the guys in the tournament on Ras de Lona and doing a fine job) and is involved in Forjando un Idolo on Fridays. Is SuperLuchas sure they got the correct Guerrero who joined the programming department? (Kidding.)
LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s update.
Other Links
- The AP has a long story on people who are now living in San Diego but still wrestle in Tijuana.
- Damian 666 hypes the Perros anniversary show.
- Konnan talks about his start in lucha libre and how it saved his life.
- The Lucha Libre Expo people say they’re doing a second expo in SLP this November.
- Rey Escorpion is ready for Metro.
- Mr. Cacao talks about Arkangel.
- Porra Fresa notes the three different feuds Averno has been in this year.
- MaskMania reposts photos from DragonMania and mentions it airs June 18 on Samurai TV.
- From PWR, Misterioso Sr. introduces Hijo del Misterioso.
- EAW says it’s returning on July 1st, and throws out all sorts of names that won’t actually be on the show.
Lineup
CMLL (FRI) 06/03/2011 Arena Mexico
1) Camaleón & Metálico vs Apocalipsis & Inquisidor
2) Dalys la Caribeña, Lluvia, Marcela vs Amapola, Estrellita, La Comandante
3) Astral vs Pequeño Nitro [lightning]
4) Diamante, Hijo del Signo, Negro Casas vs Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Shocker
5) Ángel de Oro, Rey Escorpion, Último Guerrero vs Blue Panther, Fuego, Pólvora
6) Shinsuke Nakamura, Terrible, Texano vs La Máscara, La Sombra, Strong Man
Fourth and fifth matches are playing off Forjando un Idolo, with the vets teaming with their top two finishers. That means the return of Shocker, just about 8 days after they stripped him of his title for not wrestling. It was inactive for five months, why didn’t they wait a week more?
No Averno, though I’m sure he’ll impact this card some way.
Rush/Diamante/Oro keep trios titles, AAA/TNA, new Mistico
CMLL (SUN) 05/08/2011 Arena Mexico [CMLL, Cesar]
1) Astro Boy & Bengala b Bobby Zavala & Zayco
Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Guerrero Maya Jr., Hombre Bala Jr., Sensei DQ Mortiz, Rayo Tapatío I, Rayo Tapatío II
straight falls. Rayo I had Bala suspended in a hold, decided to pull his mask anyway.
3) Metal Blanco, Metro, Palacio Negro b Cancerbero, Raziel, Yoshihashi
2/3 for the tecnicos. Metro beat Yoshihashi with a German suplex
4) Ángel de Oro, Diamante, Rush b El Alebrije, Misterioso II, Olímpico [MEX TRIOS]
Tirantes was referee and slow counted the champs. Tecnicos still won, taking 1/3, Rush pinning Alebrije. Misterioso challenged Rush to a mask vs hair match again. Misterioso dreams of $$$$.
5) Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas b Black Warrior, Máximo, Strong Man
1/3 for Peste Negra. Clean pins for Felino & Casas on Warrior & Maximo for the deciding fall.
Today’s AAA TV show in Mexico including a vignette posted earlier online: Jeff Jarrett going around the TNA locker room recruiting various faces and heels to come to AAA with him (and cutting some mixed promos.) People shown included Mr. Anderson, Matt Hardy, Bully Ray, AJ Styles, Beer Money, and Mick Foley, all talking about how much they’d love to go to AAA to show them Mexicans. Oddly, no Hernandez. Other odd thing is Styles & Beer Money are being advertised for a show in Buffalo the same day as TripleMania; they (or other people) seem to be promoting as appearing at a show they’re not appearing at. Maybe they’ll show up on AAA at some other part. (Third odd thing is TNA is changing it’s name next week, but I guess not in Mexico.) Still, this was a great start at introducing people.
Speaking of introducing people, this week’s SuperLuchas says CMLL will debut a new Mistico this Friday. No Mistico is listed on the card, so this would just be an introduction to the crowd. WWE will be in Mexico City on Friday, so this seems like obvious response to that. There’s no indication in the story about who the new Mistico would be. Magnus still seems the most likely person, but it seems far from the certainty it was when the new Mistico concept was still floated. CMLL themselves have made no mention of any of this.
CMLL in Japan
Haven’t seen full results from the Reina debut show yet, but this NikkanSports article does mention two of finishes:
Ayumi b Mima Shimoda [#1, CMLL WOMEN]
Amapola b Marcela [CMLL WOMEN]
I would figure these results mean Amapola is going back to Japan at some point , but Ayumi does mention wanting to come back to CMLL this summer, maybe the title shot would happen here. They’re running at least every other weekend from here on out, so Silueta and Zeuxis should be working regularly.
Rob posted video of CMLL’s tour of Japan in Feb 2000 and AAA’s tapings on 02/13 & 02/25/94.
LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.
Links
- Luchas 2000 #569 teases Angel de Oro vs Fuego, La Mascara vs Averno and Konnan vs LA Park.
- Cesar picks the second best part of the first third for CMLL and is critical of people being critical.
- Nikita reviews Blue Panther vs Negro Casas and Ultimo Guerrero vs Hirooki Goto.
Lineups
IWRG (THU) 05/12/2011 Arena Naucalpan
1) Dinamic Black & Pikachu vs Guerrero 2000 & Muerte Infernal
2) Golden Magic, Hijo de Clímax, Hijo del Pantera vs Alan Extreme, Carta Brava Jr., El Pollo Asesino
3) Chico Che, Hijo del Brazo, Veneno vs Bombero Infernal, Comando Negro, Fresero Jr.
4) Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Ray Mendoza Jr., Villano IV vs Multifacético, Negro Navarro, Trauma I
Hijo de Climax makes his regular show debut. Hijo del Brazo is a new name, but we may just not know which Brazo it is yet.
Sunday’s Naucalpan show is the Lucha Fan Fest show.