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Lucha Libre Premier, tapings 1 and 2

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AAA LLP (FRI) 08/14 Foro Scotiabank [ESTO, AAA]
1) El Elegido (o), Mascarita Divina, Pimpinela Escarlata b Decnnis, Mini Abismo Negro, Polvo de Esterllas
2) Rain & Sexy Star (o) DQ Fabi Apache (x) & Koa Marie Gabric
3) Dr. Wagner Jr. (o), Jack Evans, Rocky Romero b Alex Koslov (x), Electro Shock, Teddy Hart
4) El Mesías & Marco Corleone (o) b Cibernético & Kenzo Suzuki (x)

ESTO notes Wagner & Electro are on the same unit, but fought because they’re honorable competitors. They also mention Sexy Star’s previous gimmick, which must mean they were googling for back ground information, or they figured it out when she tossed her mask to Fabi. Fabi got caught with it, which I’d think mean she starts negative. Luckily for my sanity, just as I about to figure out Day 2, I noticed Day 1 and Day 2 points turned up in AAA. They’ve got to keep doing this throughout, I shouldn’t have to do any math. (I am going to the math, because it’ll be funny later when we make fun of the inevitable fail. Should start a pool on that, too.)

Edit 10/24/09: upon airing this show, AAA appears to have over turned the finish in the second match, ruling it as a DQ for Sexi Star.

6 Marco Corleone
6 Dr. Wagner Jr.
6 Elegido
6 Sexi Star
3 Mesias
3 Jack Evans
3 Rocky Romero
3 Rain (called Gray Rain by ESTO, but AAA has her just as Rain)
3 Mascarita Divina
3 Pimpinela Escarlata

Neither ESTO nor AAA’s recap mentions who (if any) get a bonus point for movement of the night. I think that’s not something we’re going to find out until we see the show, and that’ll probably also mean they give out 1 point per TV show, or 2 points per taping. ESTO article notes that besides Konnan doing the announcers, they’ll have sports stars and celebrties joining – this is an idea they used for WSX, where bands came on and it didn’t always go so well.

Getting back to the point totals, AAA mentions wrestlers have to get 20 points to qualify to win the title, which means they just have to get a few people over that number and then figure out who they want to win, rather than having to book out a winner in advance.

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Day 2

AAA LLP (SAT) 08/15 Foro Scotiabank [Alan + photos, AAA]
1) El Elegido, Octagoncito (o), Pimpinela Escarlata b Decnnis, Mini Abismo Negro (x), Polvo de Esterllas
2) Mari Apache & Rain (o) b Fabi Apache (x) & Koa Marie Gabric
3) Jack Evans (o), Marco Corleone, Zorro b Alex Koslov (x), Chessman, Electro Shock
4) Dr. Wagner Jr., El Mesías (o), Rocky Romero b Cibernético, Kenzo Suzuki, Sugi San (x)

Alan noted Koa Marie was injured in her match. AAA says it’s a hip injury. My guess is, they had Mari replace Sexi in the match because they would’ve had Mari working with the outside girls in the Apache’s gym to get them prepared for this match, and maybe they had something worked out in particular. It’d be nice if there was a storyline setting Mari working rudo, but they basically ignored it on the Las Vegas taping. Rain did get the pin only after a Sexi Star distraction, but having them Americans work against the Apaches instead of each other might have been a way for AAA to evaluate them.

It’s generally hard to figure out if these are alignments that will be in play after Verano de Escandalo (again, these tapings aren’t supposed to air until September, so CMLL should continue to turn up at least until then), or if they’re just random AAA bookings. Their spot show lineups routinely have people on wrong sides or teaming with people you wouldn’t expect them to team with, though usually it’s because they’re well lagged what’s happening on TV.

AAA doesn’t make any specific mention of when/where the next taping will be.

Points from this show:
6 Octagoncito
6 Rain
6 Jack Evans
6 Mesias
3 Elegido
3 Pimpinela
3 Mari Apache
3 Marco Corleone
3 Zorro
3 Dr. Wagner Jr.,
3 Rocky Romero

Edit 08/18/2009: AAA says Sugi got a bonus point, though it’s not clear if there’s only one point for both nights or if we’re still waiting for a point for day 1.

Total Points:
9 Rain (nearly halfway there!)
9 Jack Evans
9 Mesias
9 Elegido
9 Marco Corleone
9 Dr. Wagner Jr.
6 Octagoncito
6 Sexi Star
6 Rocky Romero
6 Pimpinela Escarlata
3 Mari Apache
3 Zorro
3 Mascarita Divina
1 Sugi

They were very careful not to have someone win directly twice.

Lucha Libre Premier press conference notes

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Luchando Libre has the point system for the Lucha Libre Premier championship, from yesterday’s press conference to hype it. (So, no, it’s not canceled.) This is delightful:

  • everyone on the winning team gets 3 points
  • person who personally picks up the win gets 3 points
  • “whoever makes the most dramatic movement of the show”, 1 point.
  • DQs will cost you one point

Top 2 point gets face off at the end of the season for the championship.

Chances AAA has this all planned out now: 0%
Chances AAA keeps this all straight: 30%

I’d like to obsessively track this on the site, because that’s what I do, but the best wrestler of the show point is going to be tough to figure from results. I guess they could make this clear, but, uh, they won’t. They’ll just do random matches, and they we’ll end up with 2 of Wagner, Cibernetico and Mesias (if they’re all there) having a match at the end. I know this. And yet…

At the press conference yesterday, the two mystery women were announced as Rain (announced under her real name) and Koa-Marie Gabric, a WWE 2007 Diva Search woman who I have absolutely no recollection of. I’m sure she’ll be fantastic. Konnan will be color commentator for the show, for those who are in withdrawal.

The Televisa Deportes doesn’t even specifically mention the channel the show is on, so not a lot of news there.

First show is tonight. Results are appreciated.

Edit: The Koa-Marie Gabric name is still in my search box, and I’m thinking about how I know I’ve seen that name before, somewhere. And then it finally clicks – Koa Marie is the heel valet on all the GALLI shows and I’ve seen her plenty of times. She’s a lovely person who works well as the hot girl with the jerk boyfriend, but…you know, maybe she’s been working matches some place else, since GALLI hasn’t really run women’s matches and I’m sure she and Rain will work out something in advance, but from the physical interactions I’ve seen her in GALLI, in-ring wrestler is not the role for her at this point. (She’s Nikki, really.) I’m happy for her getting the opportunity, just like it’s cool every time Gringo Loco’s name pops up in IWRG, but this is not a good casting decision by AAA.

What we know about AAA on FSE

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This was a running topic in the comments yesterday, but it’d be easier to find it. It’s a little info and a lot of guessing based off it.

AAA will start taping shows for Fox Sports International (Mexico) this week. The shows will be an hour long, and take the place of the CMLL episodes on the same channel. Early reports said they’d be on Fox Sports Espanol (the US version of the same channel). Neither channel’s website listings do not list any lucha libre show, but they were never much accurate a week out when I was paying attention to them.

Techinically, the shows are being promoted as “Lucha Libre Premiere”. These shows are going to feature AAA wrestlers and presumably run by the same AAA people. AAA claims they own the AAA name on their website, but something must be up – like Televisa still owning the rights to use it on TV – for them not to be using the name here. AAA tried this same ‘promoting under a different name’ years ago with LLL, and it didn’t seem to last long, but perhaps they’ve figured out some things in the meantime.

(Maybe the name issue is why AAA’s mentioned none of this on their website?)

The first 2 shows will be taped at Foro Scotiabank this Friday and Saturday, part of 8 tapings. Each taping looks to be 4 matches and runs 2 hours, which should last TV for two weeks. The show is expected to start on 08/22, so these shows will take them thru 09/12, far past Verano de Escandalo.

Lineups

AAA LLP (FRI) 08/14 Foro Scotiabank [ticketmaster]
1) El Elegido, Octagoncito, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Decnnis, Mini Abismo Negro, Polvo de Esterllas
2) ? & Fabi Apache vs ?? & Sexy Star
3) Dr. Wagner Jr., Jack Evans, Rocky Romero vs Alex Koslov, Electro Shock, Teddy Hart
4) El Mesías & Marco Corleone vs Cibernético & Kenzo Suzuki

The opener is actually listed as “Relevos Atomicos”, which would probably mean two women added to the match. Which would mean practically the entire women’s division would make TV.

AAA LLP (SAT) 08/15 Foro Scotiabank [ticketmaster]
2) Fabi Apache & Octagoncito vs Mini Abismo Negro & Sexy Star
3) Jack Evans, Marco Corleone, Zorro vs Alex Koslov, Chessman, Electro Shock
4) Dr. Wagner Jr., El Mesías, Rocky Romero vs Cibernético, Kenzo Suzuki, Sugi San

Wagner appears to have been booked as a rudo as of the last TV taping, but he’s a tecnico on these tapings. Zorro hasn’t appeared as a tecnico at all, so no clue one what is supposed to be going on there.

Notable omissions: Latin (exclusive to Televisa?), Parka, Octagon. Billy and Aerostar seem to be removed from their feud.

Sexi and Fabi’s Saturday’s match (and possible the Friday one) will air after Verano de Escandalo takes place, where one of them could’ve lost their mask or hair. Sexi losing her mask seems like the most likely outcome in that match, so perhaps she’ll be appearing with it still on for a while after.

In the PR work AAA wrestlers did to hype this on Monday, and in the description of the event, there’s a mention of a championsihp to be decided in league format. The cards do not seem to reflect that, but they’ve been so certain of it, I’m sure it’ll pop up somehow and not make any sense. If it wasn’t for the mention of accumulating points, I’d figure it be like the CMLL Record show, where someone just gets handed belts randomly.

Given about a week to turn post-produce this, the next set of episodes would be around 09/05.

Foro Scotiabank is a 4,000 seat building. Tickets range from 200 to 700 Pesos ($15.40 to $53.90.) Between those prices and the building, it seems much closer to the club shows AAA was doing earlier in the year then their normal TV taping or even their normal spot show.

Not sure if they’ll keep taping here, but sticking around Mexico City seems a safe bet. It’s not clear who’s actually producing the shows (FSE? some third party?), but it’s easier to tape it if they don’t have to leave the metro area. Doing two tapings one a month makes the most sense; it’s an easy fit on any week they’re not running TV on the weekend. Like with the MVS shows, expect for this shows to reflect the main storylines but not actually progress them, and maybe do smaller midcard feuds.

Of course this has to turn into something about CMLL: The current CMLL shows who were produced by MVS and sold to Fox Sports, so MVS could presumably sell them to another network, add an hour to the current MVS show, or just drop that hour. No hint of a decision there, but I’d presume they’ll just be dropped for the time being.