2020 catch up: empty arena CMLL and odds and ends

this is the last of the 2020 stuff I’m squeezing in for 2020. What’s left

  • all the IWTV Lucha Memes shows (watched, posts maybe next week)
  • some Mas Lucha Premium shows (watching this weekend?)
  • any remaining AAA AutoLuchas shows (no idea how many)
  • maybe some CMLL shows, but I have no idea how I’m going to handle the cutoff
    • they’re capable of airing 2020 stuff well in to 2021 (there is no reason to any of this)
    • they’re incapable of taping before the week of 01/11
    • it usually takes CMLL about a week to get those to air, so maybe everything up to 01/17 is “2020”.

Here are so matches and some thoughts on those matches.

Baby Camaleón, Karma II, Perseo vs Enjambre, Hantar, Misterik
(11/29 Car The Crash, 15:27, good, Estrellas del Ring)

You should definitely go to 8:16 and watch that spot. Hantar’s outfit makes him look like old friend Dark Dragon (or maybe Dark Dragon was dressed like Hantar), and he does a similar base job Camaleon’s headscissors. The tecnico dominated the last half slowed down too much for me, but Perseo was very willing to throw himself into a dive. The dive train ends well, but then it just keeps going for some reason. This is more enjoyable than a good CMLL trios – the bigger moments are more fun – but also a bit more self-indulgent.

Látigo © vs Freelance [IAW CHAMP]
(11/01 @ WR, 8:39, ok, +LuchaTV)

I’ve enjoyed Latigo’s title run this year, and I’m not sure if I would’ve made time to watch it if there were a more normal amount of choices. This is a decent defense too, but it gets repurposed into a referee grabbing exhibition for a promotional feud I do not care about at all. Freelance is better in a tag situation generally, still shows enough here against Latigo to make this worthwhile. The finishing stuff just dragged it down for me.

Silver vs Kaoma Jr.
(10/16 @ Arena Universal Matamoros, 12:07, good, El Mina de Luchavídeos)

This was a solid match from people I have not seen much of before. The matwork to start was good, the finish was a well-executed idea. There was a code red spot that didn’t go well but they kept moving. This worked for this level. It was also nice to see a referee count at a normal speed before diving back into CMLL.

Mephisto vs Soberano Jr.
(“10/23”, 11:50, good, Google Drive)

I wondered if it had been so long since I watched a “normal” CMLL singles match that the style would feel fresh again. Not yet. They’ve had better efforts. Soberano slips at a crucial time and never really gets rolling. Mephisto is straddling the line between “wow, it’s impressive he can do things at 52” and “he’s really old and maybe should stop doing things.” He’s so winded by the final stretch that’s not much of a stretch. It’s probably generous to have this finish on the good side of the ledger.

Rey Cometa vs Raziel
(“11/20” CMLL, 10:58, great, Google Drive)

Raziel’s leg trap into a tapatia is incredible work, and the sort of stuff you never see him from normally. Rey Cometa brings out the best in a lot of people, but it also seems like giving a guy like Raziel even the slightest bit of something to do brings out a better performance. Maybe CMLL wouldn’t have been dreadful for months if they did this for more guys. The Spanish Fly to end the second fall looks particularly unfun, though suitably devastating. They go hard in the third fall, they don’t stick to your move my move, and I was only left wishing they went a little farther. I’m concerned I’m rating this on a curve because CMLL people trying this hard is rare, but this match would be worth watching in any situation.

Atlantis Jr. & Flyer vs Hijo del Villano III & Tiger for the Mexican National Tag Team Championship
(“11/14” CMLL, 19:03, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

It’s a match. There’s enough here that people who are already fans of these four will likely be satisfied. It’s not painful like the tag title final. It’s also just nothing special. Atlantis looks like a good athlete, Tiger can do things and is a good foil, the other two aren’t there. Villano shows some improvement and personality, but he’s got moves that don’t fit his size – the first fall spear needs to get out of his arsenal – and his timing isn’t there. He broke up a pin at about four, not the most useful tactic. Flyer is a CMLL wrestling robot and not even a particularly entertaining one; his lifelessness at least helps Atlantis stand out more, but it doesn’t help the match when he’s slowly going to his next spot before the rudo has had a chance to react to the last one. Flyer’s not doing anything to show he should be at this level besides wear a Volador family mask. And maybe that’s enough.

I think it’s possible every other promotion in the world running a taped show would’ve stopped the match between the second and third fall to allow Flyer to get a replacement mask after the rudos did too effective of a job ripping it. CMLL pauses no longer than usual, Flyer just making it back to the ring as the fall whistle blows. CMLL’s stubborn unwillingness to adapt to their circumstances is occasionally amazing and always counterproductive.

Euforia vs Stuka Jr.
(“12/17” CMLL, 12:20, good, currently only on NJPW; probably on CMLL’s YouTube on 01/10)

Stuka basically just runs through his big moves, but it transcends the checklist because of some good emotion and Euforia as an opponent. Stuka’s not pulling off the rope bounce powerbomb reversal into a headscissors with most anyone else. The early brawling sets a good tone, even if they don’t get back to it a lot. (Euforia does seem to miss the catch on Stuka’s torpedo dive to the floor, a rarity for him.) This is one that might have done even better with fans and is still watchable without.

2020 catch up: some matches from CAR The Crash & Arena Lopez Mateos

Cobre & Tromba vs Shun Skywalker & Yoshioka
(07/31 Lucha Madre, 19:56, good, mluchatv)

I didn’t really recognize how small Cobre is until this match. Maybe the giant referee really skews things. His small size was an asset, because it made Team Dragon Gate come off as even more evil as they trapped Cobre in the ring for an extended portion of this match. Skywalker & Yoshioka didn’t often work overtly rudo as they did here, and they were good at it. The Mexican team showed good team work and kept up at times, but both Cobre & Tromba had slips at just the wrong time. Tromba’s house of fire run after Cobra finally made the tag seemed to hit a wall after he had trouble on a springboard, and Cobre’s biggest spot in the ring on Yoshoika didn’t go well for either man. It was an exciting end, though the unusually strictly enforced tag rules seemed to confuse everyone.

Látigo vs Baby Camaleón
(10/18 CLL, 12:27, good, CHARLY 316)

2020 hasn’t been good for many, but Latigo has at least excelled at being a sort of touring champion. Give him your guy who wrestled twice a month and he’ll do his best to pull an entertaining match out of it. Baby Camaleon is not bad, but he comes off as a generic indie flyer. Latigo works in this role of making sure the challengers’ biggest moves come together while still getting a definite win in the end. I’ve liked some of the other matches better, this still was good enough for weird pandemic wrestling.

Arez vs Blue Win
(10/18 CLL, 13:10, great, CHARLY 316)

Arez working the teacher side of teacher/student matches makes me feel very old. This was young Blue Win throwing everything he had at Arez, looking impressive doing so, and also not getting all that close to winning because Arez is on a much higher level. That gap is so big that I’m not sure completely sure how good Blue Win is and how much of that was Arez; there were parts where the match definitely would’ve gone bad had it been against someone more on Blue Win’s experience level. This match occasionally felt too rehearsed, but it still maintained creativity. The Arez hook kick into another move is cool every time he does it.

León Dorado vs Charro Negro
(11/21 AULL, 15:16, good, mluchatv)

This was a little sloppy early on, with a Charro headscissors spot going very well. He looked cool the rest of the way, peaking with the double backbreaker into a cradle count bit. They stayed away from flying more I’d expect, with Dorado trying a lot of submissions that miss a little bit of intensity. Charro shows off surprising strength at times; the finish was good but Charro seemed like the more impressive guy.

Freelance vs Impulso for the AULL Lightweight Championship
(11/21 AULL, 14:33, great, mluchatv)

A title match worked like the apuesta match – which makes some sense, even an AULL championship might be more valuable than either of these frequently shaved heads. Still, Freelance’s face being covered in blood before he gets in one offensive move may be different than what you’re expecting. It works, Freelance remains a compelling underdog even if he’s not as a graceful flyer as in past years. Impulso holds it together, gets crushed a bit, and crushes Freelance well on the finish. Well worth the time.

Centella Oriental © vs Villano III Jr. for the AULL Welterweight Championship
(11/29 AULL, 14:47, good, mluchatv)

Is it possible Villano III Jr. left AAA because it was taking time away from his true passion, questionable body art? I don’t know how to evaluate body art, maybe it is great, it is definitely now plentiful. This is a Villano III who wants to press all the buttons: Centella de Oro gets hit by a box full of beer bottles and a row of seats in the first half of this match. Villano III Jr. stops the match to sweep the debris out of the ring, then of course breaks the broom on Centella de Oro; he’s like someone who grew up watching Black Terry Jr. filmed brawls and finally being free to reenact his favorite moments. Centella’s comeback is outshined by Villano III’s willingness to take big and painful-looking backdrops. The third fall develops into Villano giving tackling dummy Centella a variety of big moves and pinning him very close to the ropes before Centella makes his comeback by moving slightly and trying an ill-designed cover. The Spanish Fly spot looks nice and would’ve been a fine finish except for the apparently necessary fooling around which follows. Centella’s win made him look like a fluke, though the Arena Lopez Mateos seemed to enjoy it. I wonder how much of this Villano we’re going to see when he faces someone he sees more on his level.

2020 catch up, Welcome To Mi Barrio semfinals/finals (and other odds and ends)

Freelance, Mike Segura, Yakuza vs Arashi, Belial, Impulso
(AULL @ 11/15, 19:38, good, mluchatv)

Mas Lucha had this as a MOTYC. I didn’t see it at that level, though it was an enjoyable match that built to the singles match (Impulso/Freelance) that was spinning out of it. Those two had a good back and forth brawl which would’ve been better if it was in the ring where people could see it. The years have gotten to Freelance – he was grimacing on the apron when he wasn’t in – but his dive over the barricade still looked great. The other four were solid but didn’t have a great effect on the match. Yakuza doesn’t look much like Yakuza these days.

Hijo de Canis Lupus © vs Fresero Jr. for the IWRG Intercontinental Heavyweight Championship
(IWRG @ 10/11/2020, 17:17, ok, mluchatv)

Never a satisfying sign when a match ends and I’m yelling “is that it? Is that really it?” at the screen. There was a lot of fat here and not a lot of what either man does well. The opening eight minutes are low-interest mat wrestling, with the crowd whistling. Everything after that is a tease of the match picking up and then calming back down. It never pays off, it’s never that great. Maybe just a bad pairing but an easy skip.

Rugido vs Jorge El Salvaje in a tournament semifinal match
(WTMB @ 10/07, 9:52, ok, mluchatv)

This is the first of three semifinals in Welcome to Mi Barrio’s initial title tournament, which I’m finishing out watching completely. I feel like that if you knock someone out with a cookie sheet for long enough to tie their shoe to the bottom rope and remove a turnbuckle, you probably should try pinning them. That’s just my thought, Jorge el Salvaje is free to wrestle the way he feels fit. These guys went too long and looked terrible after the nine minute marks. The big spot was Jorge taking a headscissors into that exposed buckle, only Jorge couldn’t take a headscissors and fell lamely. Rugido trying a mounted submission following that was a sign he was following a plan that had existed and not adjusting to what happened. (So was Jorge obviously blading.)

Verzal vs Hijo del Pantera in a tournament semifinal match
(WTMB @ 10/14, 3:06, n/r, mluchatv)

The match effectively ends in less than two minutes with Hijo del Pantera claiming an ankle injury. It takes a bit longer for it to get called, waiting for Verzal to put Pantera in a submission move for him to give up. Verzal is very confused and unhappy to win. Pantera never tries an offensive move.

Hijo del Pantera showed no interest in this match from the moment it started. I’m uncertain if he came in injured, came in not wanting to take a loss toVerzal or actually got hurt. If Pantera was actually hurt, Verzal did a terrible job of handling it. I don’t think that’s what happened. This is not even something worth rating, much less watching.

Hijo Del Payaso Purasanta vs Pantera Jr. in a semifinal match
(WTMB @ 10/21, 5:47, good, mluchatv)

This was a breath of fresh air after the other two semifinals. These guys went hard from the start, their energy overwhelming any sloppiness. The Payaso Purasantas suffer a bit from being another an indistinct clown gimmick, but the ‘son’ showed great work going after Pantera’s knee before the crushing finale. Pantera’s are one of the few people who are going to make that knee work mean a lot too. There was good quick back and forth, their kicks connected well, and I was mostly left wishing they had gotten a more time.

Rugido vs Hijo Del Payaso Purasanta vs Verzal in a tournament final match
(WTMB @ 10/28, 9:39, ok, +LuchaTV)

Rugido leaving this match with a ref stop arm injury sure was weird coming after a previous match where they didn’t stop it when someone had a leg injury. Maybe there were meetings to fix that situation. This was a weird shift from Purasanta looking dominant to being caught and beat in twenty seconds. It makes sense in real life but it is unlike how matches are normally worked here. The match felt short as a result. The audio and video are noticeably worse for this final match than the rest of the tournament.

CMLL TV October 2020 catchup

a not fun ride

Some non-Ticketmaster matches that seemed interesting from about a month ago. Most of them turned out not be interesting.

Dulce Gardenia vs Virus
(12:17, 10/03, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

There’s probably a good Gardenia/Virus there but the energy wasn’t there without a crowd. Dulce is good enough that he should be able to have an entertaining match with those reactions, but I haven’t seen it yet. CMLL hasn’t used him much in anything significant, so maybe they have similar concerns.

Tiger & Virus vs Espíritu Negro & Rey Cometa
(15:11, 10/09, good, Google Drive)

Easily enjoyable tag match, the kind of match hoped for on the B-shows. This appears taped before the Aniversario show – Espiritu Negro doesn’t have his new gear yet – and fits in with the tags the Atrapasuenos were doing in the lead up to the tag title match. Rey Cometa & Tiger have faced each other so many times that they’ve been molded into great opponents for each other. Cometa eats it on Tiger’s superkick and powerbomb, Tiger’s a rare rudo who actually sells something instead of standing blankly waiting for the stage dive. 

Súper Astro Jr. vs Sonic
(10:36, 10/10, ok, 
VideosOficialesCMLL)

I’m not sure the lightweight title ever needs to return but this seems like a good idea for the final. That title match would probably be better than this, which felt like a disjointed lightning match thanks to the fall breaks. (Why aren’t they running lightning matches?) There’s no great chemistry here but they’re both spectacular enough to do more if asked.

Soberano Jr. vs Forastero
(15:17, 10/10, good,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Entertaining enough for CMLL empty arena wrestling but a little bit sloppy at times. The action-packed Soberano matches work with if the action looks good. They couldn’t get it totally together, especially early. There also was a lot of spot communicating that was hard to ignore, and Metalico blew a pinfall count in the second fall. This a lot of criticism for a match I generally liked, but it also showed neither of these guys are yet good enough to carry a match on their own. 

Diamante Azul & El Bandido vs Cuatrero & Sansón
(14:27, 10/20, ok,
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Just average match, feeling thrown together. Diamante Azul currently has the plodding speed of an ogre. He also threw a lot of punches for a guy who’s not good at punches. He’s got to be close to retiring the ramp dive bit because it keeps coming closer to disaster; Azul barely made it over this time. Bandido is another outsider who comes into CMLL and seems less special than more he’s around.

Flyer & Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Disturbio & Virus
(14:12, 10/16, ok, Google Drive)

I hoped this would be Maya & Virus working against each other, but they mostly face the other person on the team. This turns out to be a pattern; Maya and Virus keep wrestling tag matches on the empty arena shows but don’t actually wrestle each other all that much. It’s fun to see Maya be mean to Disturbio but it’s outweighed by Flyer submitting Virus later on. Flyer’s current state is currently personified by the second fall finish here, a huracanrana on Disturbio where Flyer looks for the legs to hook with his arms on the pin, continues to look, realizes he has failed, and simply gives up.

Mephisto vs Soberano Jr.
(12:10, 10/23, ok, Google Drive)

Fine, but nothing to see unless you want to see Mephisto do a Canadian Destroyer. He’s going to have as an interesting match as the person he’s facing, Soberano is a guy who wants to do a lot of the same spots, so this match wasn’t going to be much beyond those familiar spots. It needed a crowd who cared, and the fake crowd noise working hard wasn’t enough in this one.

IAW: 2020-07-11 & 2020-10-10 shows

very much a match where you can pick any 15 seconds and come up with a good GIF

Two for one.

The July 11th IAW took me a while to get to because the no fans atmosphere became hard to enjoy – this is one of many problems CMLL has too – but the Tromba versus Arez versus Latigo match should be seen anyway. I’m lower on the most, the short duration makes it hard for me to rate it better than Good, but it’s still plenty worthwhile for the totally different matches this crew is doing. They seemed to go into this match with the idea of doing no moves that anyone else had done before, or at least it felt that way for the first four or so minutes. The creatively was off the charts and this might have worked as a Great match for me if they could totally hold it together. They were just a little bit off from connecting at times. The finish made sense in that they were all going for their big moves, but it still felt way too short. I wonder if this is an actual result of it being a no-fans show if they would’ve been afraid of a negative reaction for the brief main event if there were ticket-buying people.

The women’s match on a typical Mexican indie show typically gets no more booking attention than “ok, just let the women have a match”, which occasionally is good news. There’s no wild booking to get in the way of the high effort match between Lady Cat, Star Fire, Lilith Dark, and Miss Delicious. There still is a superfluous double pin, but they work at a fast pace over a short time length. The main event is obviously better, but this still fits in the same Good level. It’s a little bit too indie cliché when the got to the four-way chop spot but otherwise good action for eight minutes. Everyone besides Star Fire has been part of the improved IWRG’s women’s division before the break; it’s too bad that concept seems to have been downplayed since their restart

The wild booking does kick in the Jitsu & Energia three falls match, which turns into a tag match, which turns into partners turning on each other. Just, no. Kunay versus Heroe Romero was a better use of creativity and another Good match; maybe Kunay’s niche is just finding weird spots to do in a falls count anywhere situation. The fight improved the moment they stopped doing a normal match and started climbing on carefully positioned people to do headscissors. Hera & La Fuerza vs Ciclón Infernal & Slyfer was a bit too long and not remarkable.

The August 10th show is back in front of people at Gimnasio Mitklan. I watched the Estrellas del Ring version. I can not name the IAW commentators, I do not recall anything they said on the previous show, but I did miss them greatly when I was trying to figure out who people were in the undercard. The tradeoff is the undercard isn’t much good. The women’s tag match falls apart at points, the five-way is all offense with no particular direction, and this was another in a long line of Mexican indie royal rumbles where too many people stick around for too long. The highlight of the Rumble was seeing Santy Hernandez involved, assuming a 100% chance he was going to do a WWE bit, and then watching him hide outside of the ring until Kunay thought he won in a WWE bit. He is that dude.

Baby Love versus Star Fire versus Candy Swing is not memorable, but it was successful in having a goal (Baby Love heroically overcoming the odds against bigger opponents) and achieving that goal. It was in this match that it clicked that she’s a blond thin masked woman from Monterrey with a generic name and some popularity; hopefully this goes better than the last one. (She absolutely should change her name as soon as possible, before it becomes harder to do so. She’s only going to go so far as “Baby Love”.)

Jitsu vs Yoruba vs Mr. Leo vs Ciclón Infernal was back to just having a lot of moves and nothing much coming from them. The referee screwing up the count (in the second straight match) didn’t help, but having so many multi-people matches really doesn’t help. I know it’s not actually true, but it feels like Jitsu is the only person in Mexico working more after the pandemic started than before it; I can’t escape him right now.

Ares vs Aramis vs Willy Banderas had some ups and downs. Willy had trouble either with the rhythm the other two are used to working or remembering the complicated spots. There were few problems when it was a one versus one match, but the hit rate went down whenever all three people were involved. It’s useful to prevent Aramis & Arez from facing each other and their same crew forever and they’ve got to make what they do work with outsiders to continue growing, but this just made Banderas look not up to their level. I liked this enough that it was still Good, though even just the Guadalajara guy against either one of these guys might have been better

The Latigo vs Aeroboy match didn’t go for any big innovation, it was just a really well done title match. (I rated it Great.) There were a few spots that were particularly entertaining, like the well done rolling casita spot. This was more a match building very strongly to the end, getting the crowd very excited for the last few minutes. It’s an obvious advantage to have an actual group of people making noise for a match, and I was with them. They probably could’ve gotten in one more comeback after the big near fall, but that seemed like a minor complaint.

ChinampaLuchas: 2020-10-16

Spider Fly flies

The most recent ChinampaLuchas show was the best of the ones they’ve run so far. The lineup was the strongest they’ve had and they didn’t have a bad match. It’s still a promotion more notable for the visuals – running a tiny island in a lake – but they still had one match you should go out of your way to see. The full show is on Mas Lucha and it was still free at last check.

That’s the Mexaboys (Águila Oriental, Dinámico, Noisy Boy, Spider Fly) versus the Miniesstrals (Mike, Teelo, Voltrex) & Hellboy. It’s a near rematch of one that went viral last year. I had this one rated Great; it’s the first time since where it really all worked again. It’s the same formula, but still fresh. The fantastic offense of the MexaBoys is a pleasure to watch – it’s nice to have Mascara Dorada offense back even if we can’t get the person himself. The rudo control sections are my favorite parts of these matches though. Some of the smaller guys stuff is a bit staged, but the rudos are just bulldozing through them at a high speed when they take over. Only Poder del Norte matches them in explosive organized destruction. This didn’t have a large crowd losing their minds like the Arena San Juan match did, but it was equal in terms of mind-blowing spots.

Thunder Storm vs Kid Sombra vs Sol vs Dehyna and Baby Star Jr. vs Ciberblack were both Good. ChinampaLuchas bills itself as wrestlers from Arena Olivares. I’m more familiar with many of the undercard wrestlers from Nueva Arena Revolucion, which seemed to be a meeting point for a lot of former/current CMLL trainees. Baby Star is the champion that arena, and he and Ciberblack (a long ago prelim CMLL luchador) had a very technical match that worked well as a counterpoint to everything else on the show. Baby Star had a couple of spots that didn’t go correctly but looked impressive elusive in the match. The effort was strong here even if it didn’t all work. The fourway was more moves, but the moves hung together better than normal for this level of indie. I believe I’ve seen Thunder Storm mostly as a tecnico; he was better as a rudo here and vital for the match holding together. Sol looked good working with him. Dehyna was a step slower than the others at times, but not so much that it hurt the match.

The other matches were fine, but skippable if you’re hurrying through the show. Farsante & Minos vs Rey Optiums & Tempo was on the long side and the finish seemed to hurt the person giving it more than taking it, but they were trying the match. (The effort level difference between this and the CMLL Ticketmaster Live show the same night was noticeable; this was easily the better of the two shows.) Gran Felipe Jr. & Rey Halcón Jr. versus Jitsu & Kunay was one too of the same style, where others were just a bit better. The Jitsu chair dive spot took forever to set up. Draztick Boy, Falcón Fire, Lady Cat versus Cíclope, Lilith Dark, Mr. Jerry had a bit of entertainment but was really just a (too) long set up for a Ciclope & Mr. Jerry breakup to tease a promotion feud. Mr. Jerry is one of the weaker performers but he’s also the guy who’s on every single show so I’m sure it’s in everyone’s best interest to give him something to do.