I posted the newest version

I posted the newest version of my Older Lucha reviews to the Wienerboard. This one is is the Best of 1999 – Volume 2, which provides a good overall snapshot of some of the lucha that year, when combined with the other two in the series, even if the matches aren’t all *****.

Also, and exclusively linked here through the CMLL Blog, something I found when looking through the google Usenet archives. A 7-part “introduction” series to lucha posted to rec.sport.pro-wrestling as preparation for the AAA/IWC When Worlds Collide PPV back in 1994. (Only 6 parts are available). Of course, the When Worlds Collide show is the perfect lucha primer, with Mike Tenay doing an excellent job introducing one to the lucha style.

Part 1: AAA: The New Number 1

Part 2: What is Lucha Libre?

Part 3: Torch Talk interview with Konnan

Part 4: An analysis of AAA: Past, Present, Future by Dave Meltzer (Couldn’t find it through the Google archives archives)

Part 5: Wade Keller’s analysis on Triple A’s chances

Part 6: Comments from fans on Lucha Libre

Part 7: Final analysis, predictions

Homer’s Epics (Part 1) Old

Homer’s Epics (Part 1)

Old tape watching – EMLL from 1991

It’s a hair vs. hair match, but only the third and final fall is shown. Strange to see Dantes working as a tecnico. I’m guess Javier as the rudo here. I know very little about him, and in fact, this is my first time seeing him.

Cruz is quickly firing away with knees on Dantes, but can’t get the pin off a quick cradle. 2 again off the spinebuster. A camel clutch can’t get a submission, as the crowd starts rallying behind Dantes. When the hold is broked, Dantes throws Cruz to the ropes, and gives a German suplex for another 2 count. Cruz regains control, and slaps Apolo in la cavernaria. Dantes gets an arm free, so he grabs the rope and pulls himself to the floor to regroup. No dice, as he eats a DDT as soon as he returns. Cruz pulls him up at 2. I wouldn’t do that. Another DDT, but this time Apolo kicks out under his own power, and stuns Cruz with a quick Northern Lights Suplex. A three count later, and it is haircut time for Javier.

Difficult to rate without the first two falls, but what was show was nice. I’ll call it 60 on Cubs Fan’s scale, with the low rating being due to the clipping of the first two falls.

2. Perro Aguayo/Cien Caras/Satanico vs. Octagon/Vampiro Canadiense/Conan

Conan = Konnan. Vampiro Canadiense = Vampiro.

1st Fall: Beatdown from PA/CC/S. Was Cien Caras ever any good? To his credit, Perro is showing a bit of energy here. Vamp & Conan start fighting among each other, then charge the ring. Conan was doing that rolling clothesline back in ’91. That’s about all there is in the opening moments that wasn’t some variant of a punch or kick. Conan’s team takes the first fall when the opponents spend too much time outside the ring. That was total crap.

2nd Fall: I’m trying to watch this, but there’s still way too much brawling. Satanico segment with Octagon is pretty good, though. Perro & Conan brawl around ringside some more. This one can’t be over soon enough. Finally, Perro dropkicks the referee in error to get his side disqualified. Mercifully, this one goes to bed. I can’t be too hard on a match where Perro puts forth a good effort, but there generally aren’t many good brawls in lucha land. And this one wasn’t one of them. 50 for a nice effort from Perro & Satanico, and let’s go on to the reason I got this show.

A segment interviews a fan that draws caricatures of the wrestlers. We just see one panel. The ref that got kicked by Perro in the last match and what looks like Fuerza Guerrera as a snail are featured.

A segment showing Blue Panter training with the other luchadores in a setting that looks like the precursor to Tough Enough airs.

3. Blue Panther vs. Atlantis

Pierroth & El Dandy are the seconds as the NWA Welterweight Belt is on the line.

First Fall: Matwork and chain wrestling. Atlantis frustrates Panther with an armdrag. Then it’s off to the mat again. Panther controls here, turning into a half Boston/armbar combo, before going back to his original strategy of focusing on the arm. Atlantis escapes with a headscissors, holding on to the headscissors and trying a cross armbreaker. Panther powers out, and the two test strength. Each gain the advantage briefly, as Atlantis goes for a monkey flip, but Panther holds on as he goes over, and then nails Atlantis with one of his own. Panther goes for a roll-up,but Atlantis continues to roll and we get the first attempt at a pin to this point, but only 1. Back to the arm for Panther. Arm wringer, followed by a beautiful move that looks almost like an enzuigiri, but sees Panther grab the arms with his legs and go back to the submission. Panther continues to hold the arms, trying for a bow & arrow. Atlantis escapes with a couple of throws, ending with a body slam. Atlantis comes back again, holding the arm with an armdrag. Spinning backbreaker, and then he holds on with a spinebuster to get the first fall via a Scorpion Death Lock.

Second Fall: Atlantis charges early and runs into a headbutt. Panther rolls through the spinning backbreaker, only to be leveled with a short clothesline. Off the ropes for Atlantis, who runs into a clothesline of his own. Panther goes for a double underhook powerbomb, but instead drops Atlantis across his knee, and holds him there for a backbreaker submission.

Third Fall: A quick spinebuster to start this one off from Panther. Powerbomb to follow that up, but only 2. Another one, but this one is turned into a rana by Atlantis for another 2. Atlantis tries for one of his own, but Panther keeps the lift from taking place, so Atlantis goes over top with a sunset flip for a near fall. Time to go for submissions. Abdominal stretch from Atlantis. Panther powers ouit, and tries for an Indian deathlock. Atlantis shoves him away, and tries for a Scorpion Death Lock. He can’t get Panther turner over for the longest time, but finally does get him over in the middle of the ring. This time, Panther hangs on and finally crawls to the ropes to break this. Atlantis tries to crawl away, but gets grabbed by Panther. He tries for a surfboard, and finally gets it on with the second attempt. No submission though. Atlantis has held on to the legs as the hold was released, and ties up Panther for a two count. A sunset flip also gets 2. Panther kicks down Atlantis, and tries to go to the tops. Atlantis kicks him down, and throws a corner tope. Sadly his feet hit the top rope as he goes through, and he only barely makes contact. Atlantis suplexes Panther in the ring, but Blue escapes behind him, and German suplexes Atlantis for a near fall. Panther tries a Victory Roll, only for Atlantis to fall back for 2. 2 of a powerbomb counter of a rana from Panther. To the buckles for Panther, but Atlantis catches him. Superplex for 2. Atlantis hooks the arms to try a submission, but gets dropped to the floor. Perfect tope from Panther, and in the ring, a near submission on an inverted Gory Special. (Panther had the arms hooked instead of the arms/neck. Atlantis escapes with a roll-up, but Panther reverses that for a near fall. Back up, Atlantis charges Panther, only to leapfrop him, and run up the ropes, and execute a springboard moonsault and earn a three count in the final fall to end an incredibly well wrestled match.

The Atlantis/Blue Panther match is absolutely golden. Get the tape just for it. It’s some of the most beautiful chain wrestling that you’ll ever see, performed by two of the greatest technical wrestlers ever, anywhere on this planet. Despite the fact there were a lot of holds that could be restholds, it never really got to that stage, as there were constant attempts to counter. No insane spots, but in this case, it would probably have taken away from the story they were trying to tell. Only the shortness of the second fall and the imperfect tope keeps this from getting the perfect three-digit score. 98.

4. Pierroth/Jerry Estrada/Fuerza Guerrera vs. Black Magic/El Dandy/Ringo Mendoza

Black Magic = Horman Smiley, long before the Big Wiggle or any Screaming. Estrada looks like an aging rocker, but he has never been afraid to take a crazy bump. And here he he still had something resembling intact knees. Ringo actually looks kinda young here.

First Fall: Magic’s early dropkicks miss, and Pierroth is successful with his. They exchange holds for a bit. Nothing of note though during an of the segments. Although I’ll confess that after the previous match, it’ll be hard to get into this one, in spite of the fact that several of my favourites are involved. (Estrada, Fuerza & Magic). We reach rudo beatdown stage of this one, ending with a near headscissors submission on Magic by Fuerza. Next up, Estrada & Mendoza trade shots in the ring. The Fuerza Magic segment sees Smiley press slam Fuerza. However he just lets him down as Fuerza crawls to safety. Pierroth & Dandy trade near falls, ending this with a Magistral Cradle on Pierroth. Only one fall for this one.

I liked some of the stuff here, and might want to give it another chance without watching Panther/Atlantis beforehand. I’ll say 70 on this one, but they were trying to follow an absolutely incredible singles match.

The tape can be acquired here

[TCF: (Edited to fix some formatting. Probably will not be able to get the other 3 right now.)]

The Cubs Fan invited me

The Cubs Fan invited me to join up with the blog, as one of the other, OK, probably the only other luchamaniac over on the Wienerboard. I’d been going through all of my old tapes lately, really just as an opportunity to recommend some of the better stuff in recent lucha history. (1990 and on) To start, here is a link to all of the reviews so far that I’d posted on the weinerboard. I am linking to these and not the top 10/11 lucha matches list because these also include links on where one can get these tapes.

First – CMLL TV from 8/11/91 – Highlighted by Atlantis vs. Blue Panther

Second – CMLL TV from 9/13/97-9/15/97 – Highlighted by Mr. Niebla vs. Dr. Wagner

Third – CMLL’s 66th Anniversary show from 1999 – Highlighted by Niebla/Shocker vs. Atlantis/Vilano 3, in a parejes increible match, with the losers advancing to a mask match.

Fourth – Classic Lucha from 1993 – Highlighted by some of Rey Misterio Jr’s early work in AAA. No CMLL at all, so I’m probably violating the spirit of this blog with my first post.

Currently, I’m working on the CMLL PPV from 3/30/2001, but with a long weekend coming up this weekend, I may invest the time and do one of the longer lucha comps that I have around.

I watched the 5/4/03 show!

I watched the 5/4/03 show!

Match 1: Ricky Marvin [c], Virus, & Volador Jr. vs. Zumbido [c], Arkangel, and Masada

Primera Caida: I’m a little late for the first match, joining in progress as Masada clubs Ricky with a clothesline and Ricky takes a hideous looking bump, landing right on the back of his head. Ricky pulls out a 619 outside the ring. I swear, that move’s going to be the Diamond Cutter of the new millennium. Speaking of Rey, it looks like Zumbido stole a pair of his pants. Ricky takes out ‘Bido because they’re still feuding (I think). Volador takes out Masada with a guillotine legdrop and Virus rolls up Arkangel with a wacky pinning combo.

Segunda Caida: Goddamn, the Virus/Zumbido segment is good. Until Zumbido takes his crappy Jerry bump. Ricky misses a Stinger Splash to transition to a rudo beatdown. Volador gets pinned after a Zumbido ‘rana. Triple team submission gets Virus.

Tercera Caida: More beatings until Arkangel accidentally hits Masada with an errant clothesline. After a brawl, things settle down and Ricky pairs off with Zumbido. Everyone else hops in the ring and Volador hits a really nice sunset flip off of Virus, who’s covering Arkangel for a pin. Volador springboard double dropkicks Virus and Arkangel, then screws up a dive but `recovers nicely. We’re left with Ricky and Zumbido. Ricky keeps going for his springboard back elbow, but Zumbido’s too smary and dropkicks him. Fisherman Buster and Zumbido goes over clean as a sheet. Grade “A” young guys match.

Interlude: I think Corona is offering a wrestler of the year deal. The candidates: La Parka (AAA version), Perro Aguayo Jr., and Santo. Remember last year when Rayo was the CMLL candidate?

Skit: Los Infernales jog in the park. Something’s bothering Satanico—Super Crazy. And maybe Dr. Wagner too. Satanico promises to beat him up, I guess. An evil laugh takes us home.

Match 2: Satanico [c], Averno, & Mephisto vs. Blue Demon Jr. [c], Felino, & Super Crazy

Primera Caida: Starts out with a nice Felino/Averno segment, then WHOOSH a big ol’ clip takes us right to the rudo beatdown. Two triple team submissions take out Felino and Demon.

Segunda Caida: More rudo domination, until Felino and Crazy cut off Averno and Mephisto before they can hit two dives to the floor. Tarantula (rather poorly applied, I might add) from Crazy gets Averno. I guess they’re not as stringent about rope breaks in Mexico. A Demon headbutt and armbar/Sharpshooter combo gets Satanico.

Tercera Caida: More Felino/Averno fun until WHOOSH another clip takes us to the end as Felino and Crazy get taken out with wacky submissions. Demon gets pinned for good measure. Match was waaaaay too clipped to be of much substance.

Match 3: Ultimo Guerrero [c], Rey Buccanero, and Tarzan Boy vs. Vampiro [c], Shocker, & Atlantis

Primera Caida: GdI come out first. Vamp comes out by himself and gets jumped. Shocker comes out next, ditto. Atlantis, same. Maybe they should come out as a group one of these days. Bucky grabs the little blue gorilla and comes thiiiiis close to heaving him into the audience, but for some reason changes his mind. Anyway, Guerreros go nuts with the triple teams, including a beyond preposterous double simultaneous submission on Atlantis and Shocker.

Segunda Caida: More shenanigans until Shocker Makes His Comeback™ booting Ultimo to the floor and flattening him with a dive. Vamp takes out Bucky with the Nail in the Coffin and an Atlantida finishes Tarzan Boy.

Tercera Caida: Amazing start as all three Guerreros make Atlantis look like the best wrestler in the world. Everyone gets to work and we’re soon left with Shocker and Ultimo. They start beating the paste out of each other, and Shocker gets the upper hand and plants Ultimo with a powerbomb. He goes for a cover, ibut gets punched in the nuts by Rey. Ultimo covers for the tainted win. Another high end main event.

I may post a few notes from the WON bio of Rey Mendoza this weekend.

In the strangest thing ever,

In the strangest thing ever, it turns out that UK show Olimpico, Satanico, Ultimo Guerrero and Rey Bucanero will be at is an art exhibit. They’re the exhibit.

There’s a short article about it, and back on the LuchaWorld.com board, there’s a longer story about why, though I can’t find the original source.

Next time you try to make a point by saying that Lucha is art, you at least have a (crazy) Mexican guy to back you up.

Reknown mixed martial artist Super

Reknown mixed martial artist Super Porky (well maybe not) did end up losing that shoot fight he was in (heel hold, 2nd round, :20 seconds.) He actually acquited himself well. Post match, Porky suggested that he was more used to doing 1/3rd of the work in matches.

There were rumors that Juvi may be jumping back to AAA full time, but he’s listed as appearing on the 5/16 Arena Mexico show. Perhaps like El Hijo Del Santo, he’s worth enough to either side that they’ll let him do both? Maybe they don’t just see each other as competiton rght now.

Rayo de Jalsico Jr. is back out of action. He was still feeling some head pain, so they’re just going to have him take May off and check him out there.

It continues not to be the best career move to be a Boricua; this time, it was Mini Violencia who lost his mask for the cause. Mini Olimpico beat him on April 30th, and the CMLL.com bit hints Pierroth might kick him out of the faction, perhaps writing his character out. He is listed on upcoming lineups, though. In other Boricuas news, KrisZ says it’s now the ex-Poder Boricua who’s under a mask as Sadam.

While this Friday will feature the big Mexico/Japan Grand Prix, next Friday will be a contiunation of that, as Satanico and Negro Casas will take on Masada and Nosawa in a double hair/hair match. Got to figure that Masada is going to spend another summer bald, but I wonder if this might mean the home team takes the loss this Friday to build it up? It is a one shot thing, so maybe not, but Casas could certinatly take the lose in whatever match he’s in.

Rey and Ultimo Guerrero return to CMLL on 5/16. I had figured they were just taking a couple weeks off post the NJPW tour, but apparently they’re in England today, wrestling against/with Olimpico and Satanico. Don’t know more than that – the news page doesn’t even list the promotion.