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CMLL 79th anniversary show results & chat

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CMLL’s anniversary starts at 8:30 pm CT and will go close to 3 hours.  Final results are below.

CMLL (FRI) 09/14/2012 Arena Mexico
***79th Anniversary Show***
1) Dalis la Caribeña, Goya Kong, Marcela b Amapola, Princesa Blanca, Tiffany
Tecnicas took 1/2, Marclea using the ropes to pin Tiffany. Tiffany challenged Marcela to a match next week.
2) Ephesto, Mephisto, Niebla Roja b Delta, Stuka Jr., Valiente
Rudos took 1/3. In the third, Stuka pinned Ephesto, but the rudos beat Stuka, and then Mephisto defeated Delta for the win.
3) Ángel de Oro, La Sombra, Titán b Namajague, Shigeo Okumura, Taichi
Tecnicos took 1/3, Sombra beating Taichi in the third fall.
4) Puma King b Rey Cometa [mask]
Seconds were Tiger & Espiritu Negro. Rey Cometa dived off the stage on Puma with a tornillo before the bell. Puma still pulled out the fall with a leg hold in 1:16. Cometa went into the barricade again in the second fall, but came back to win with the 450 splash in 4:26. Rey Cometa is Mario Alberto González, 29 years old, 13 years a wrestler, from Quereraro. Both gave each other credit for their effort after the match, and Puma thanked the vary supportive crowd.
5) Atlantis, Mistico, Prince Devitt b Dragón Rojo Jr., Negro Casas, Último Guerrero
Rudos took 1/3, Dragon Rojo beatting Devitt each time and setting up a title match between the two.
6) Rush b Terrible [hair]
Seconds were Toro Blanco for Rush and Rey Bucanero and Comandante for Terrible. Terrible won the first and Rush took the second in usual quick falls. Both bled in the long third fall. Rush finally won with the martillo negro. Fans sided with Terrible even after the match, upsetting Rush. Mistico, out to celebrate, settled down his brother, but the entire family was pelted with drinks until they left.

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Konnan cleared for TripleMania? Mexico & GDL results

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Compromise today; 3 stories worthwhile to write about right now, and everything else gets held over for a day while I write the lucha times post.

According to AAA (and via Box Y Lucha), Konnan is cleared to participate at TripleMania. Of course, from Day 1 of this suspension, AAA’s said Konnan would be free to participate at TripleMania. The only difference this time is they’re saying they went to a judge who threw out the charges. The judge pointed out the incident would’ve been under the jurisdiction of the Box Y Lucha commission in Tamaulipas (since that’s where the fight happened), and not in Mexico City, and there was no complaint actually filed in Tamaulipas.

The problem here is there’s no third party confirming this, and the Record version of the article quotes Fantasma as being completely unaware of any change as late night.

The judgment makes sense and it’s not a surprise – I’ve been saying for the last week or more than Konnan’s going to end up making this show.

The problem is, I find it hard to believe something occurred just because AAA said it happened, especially since they’ve been talking as if there had been no need for a legal case up to this point.

If pattern holds to form, Fantasma interviews will turn up tomorrow saying it hasn’t happened. However, the Box Y Lucha article does say this story is supposed to be reported on Thursday and Friday, so maybe we’ll get that third party confirmation.

CMLL (TUE) 06/09 Arena Mexico [ESTO]
2) Dark Angel, Estrella Magica, Sahori b Amapola, La Nazi, La Seductora
3) Arkangel de la Muerte, Loco Max, Skandalo b Angel Azteca Jr., Angel de Oro, Angel de Plata
4) Felino, Heavy Metal, Lizmark Jr. b Mascara Dorada, Metro, Mictlan
5) Blue Panther, Shocker, Toscano b Naito, Ultimo Guerrero, Yujiro

Rudos won the second, tecnicos took the second, and Shocker beat UG cleanly in the third. Tecnicas won the second match in straight falls.

CMLL (TUE) 06/09 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [MT, Fuego en el Ring]
6) Dos Caras Jr. & Mephisto b Hector Garza & Maximo

Fixed.

Rudos took the first, tecnicos the second, rudos clean the third. Maximo, not Garza, feuded with Dos during the match and both recaps focused on their antics instead of talking about any of the undercard.

This arena announced a week long celebration of cultural events (and a boxing show) starting June 16th, including the anniversary show on the 21nd and movies on the 22nd.

CMLL/AAA Top 10s

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I always read all the comments, even if I didn’t remember to reply to them. Here’s one now:

I’m really trying to figure out some kind of ranking of CMLL (based on how the company pushes/ranks them, not ability or anything else. Kinda like how Cena is obviously #1 of WWE, with the next 5 quite clearly being HHH, Edge, Taker, Orton and Batista in debatable order). Obviously Mistico would be #1, with Ultimo Guerrero #2? From comments I’ve read Shocker would have been really high a few years ago, but less so now? Who ranks higher for the rudos, Averno, Atlantis or Negro Casas? Can anyone give me a rough idea what the top 10 of CMLL is?

Thought about this last night, and scribbled a top 10. Let’s see what I had, and please remember this is us trying to estimate how CMLL sees things right at this moment, not how we’d like to see them.

  1. Mistico
  2. Ultimo Guerrero
  3. Negro Casas
  4. Dos Caras Jr.
  5. Shocker
  6. Averno
  7. Hector Garza
  8. Mr. Niebla
  9. Blue Panther
  10. Texano Jr.

Sombra probably would be 10, but Texano kinda has to be after last week’s tournament. I don’t believe it’ll be the same a month from now.

CMLL believes Shocker is #2 tecnico (hey, he won Tuesday!), and he’s doing an even feud with Dos (who’s position is less arguable, I hope.)

What I wrote for AAA

  1. Konnan
  2. Joaquin Roldan
  3. Maricela Pena
  4. Dr. Wagner Jr.
  5. Mesias
  6. La Parka
  7. Latin Lover
  8. Marco Corleone
  9. Silver King
  10. Electroshock

and probably Zorro and X-Pac and Jack in that order, if you insist on only wrestlers, but that wouldn’t be truly accurate in terms of TV. 

I’m not sure Santo should be considered if he’s just in for one show, but I guess just between Parka and Latin if I had to put him somewhere.

Mesias vs Wagner

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I may be AFK today. We’ll see. Go check out Dr. Lucha and Vandall Drummond on F4.

Most of TripleMania match outcomes appear to fit in to one of two categories

(seemingly) Obvious Outcomes:
– Aerostar, Laredo Kid, Super Fly vs Killer Clown, Psycho Clown, Zombie Clown
– Charly Manson, Rocky Romero, X-Pac vs Cuervo, Ozz, Zorro
– Latin Lover & Marco Corleone vs Joe Lider & Nicho el Millionario [AAA TAG] – or at least that’s what taping said to me
– El Hijo del Santo, Jack Evans, La Parka Jr., Octagon, Vampiro vs Chessman, Electro Shock, Kenzo Suzuki, Silver King, Teddy Hart [cage, control of AAA]

Meaningless Outcomes
– Fabi Apache, Elegido, Octagoncito, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Billy Boy, Mini Abismo Negro, Polvo de Esterllas, Sexy Star – note Elegido has snuck back onto the card in Apache’s spot.
– Alex Koslov vs Alan Stone, Crazy Boy, Extreme Tiger [AAA CRUISER, hardcore] – haven’t even seen Alex win the belt yet, can’t be too concerned about him losing it.

The exception is the big one: I have no idea who’s winning Mesias and Dr. Wagner. I know it’ll be with screwnewss, because it has to be to appease everyone, but I don’t know who ends up with getting their arm raised.

Wagner’s confused status with AAA plays a part in this. I feel like I’ve read much more about this than I’ve actually cared to read at this point, and the only think I’ve defintely figured out is that Dr. Wagner will tell the story the people he’s with want to hear. If he’s with AAA, he’s just moments away from signing that exclusive deal. If he’s on his own, he wouldn’t even consider giving AAA exclusivity. At this point, there’s a definte possiblity it’s become a smokescreen to create more of a mystery, though AAA’s usually not this good about keeping those stories straight.

AAA’s pretty clear on it’s side: they’re not going to put a title on a guy who’s not an AAA guy. They surely see some great possibilities with Wagner as champion, but they also see them with Mesias as champion and there’s gotta be less headaches that way.

The only tell of the finish I’ve picked up is AAA’s subtle switch in this match. The intial promos were focused on belt versus belt, but AAA is only listing it’s championship as on the line on Saturday. That seems to hint at Mesias keeping his title (with something saving face for Wagner), and perhaps Wagner will get his win back later on while defending his title.

Totally not confident about this pick at all. What do you think?
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06/21 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara Lineup (50th Anniversary)

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CMLL (SUN) 06/21 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Metalico & Tigre Blanco vs Caligula & Messala
2) Estrella Magica, Lady Apache, Sahori vs Amapola, Crazy Star, Magnifica
3) Mascara Dorada, Metro, Valiente vs Misterioso II, Shigeo Okumura, Virus
4) Hector Garza, Hijo del Fantasma, Mistico vs Naito, Negro Casas, Yujiro
5) La Sombra & Volador Jr. vs Atlantis & Ultimo Guerrero [CMLL TAG]

CMLL put up the lineup this afternoon, though they actually forgot to list the date. Small detail. Card seems okay, but it’s not Mistico vs Felino in a mask match in terms of importance.

Virus & Mascara Dorada’s title match seems to be missing for the time being. Maybe they forgot, maybe they’re saving it for another day.

Notes on the Universal Tournament, Wagner, Pierroth

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The 8 champions in this week’s CMLL Universal Tournament block posed for a group photo and discuessed their chances. Hopefully that photo turns up larger somewhere. (Hmm, kinda like the box y lucha one. Notimex has a lot more quote. Volador Jr. is the only bold enough to predict a win.

Atlantis also talked about his “Atlantis al rescate” movie, which will air before Friday’s lucha show. A second movie is supposed to be completed by the end of the month.

WagnerMania posts photos from the show in Torreon on Friday. Interesting to see that the cage match was actually using a MMA cage. Wagner did a promo for the website saying he’s not exclusive to AAA.

Mistico is celebrating his fifth anniversary of wrestling with walking and a special mass. That’s some party!

AAA looks back at the history of Cien Caras in AAA.

Latest commission update: Fantasma really wants to work with AAA to settle all of this, but Konnan needs to come to his office to make this work. Silver King is cleared to wrestle as long as he doesn’t wear his mask. No mention of Jack, so perhpas he’s settled too.

In July, Mistico, Dos, UG and Shocker will appear on lottery cards. The same article says the GDL Anniversary main event on 06/21 will be Volador & Sombra vs Ultimo & Atlantis for the tag titles, which was supposed to be the main event for the canceled show last April.

Proyeccion Luchistica talks to Veneno & Ricky Cruz about Pierroth. Veneno says Pierroth is conscious and lucid, but still has issues speaking. Fuego en el Ring also talks to La Nazi about Pierroth when talking about her career.

LuchandoLibre posts video of the EAW show. Box Y Lucha has it’s own recap of the show.

Konnan is headed to Panama for a show on July 4th.

LuchaWorld has Robert on 02/24/08 & 03/02/08 GDL and a lot of Monterery, plus KrisZ’s news update.

Ras de Lona includes Magadan massaging Monito around the 20 minute mark. Also, they edit the first block of the universal tournament into something dramatic and exciting. It’s magic.

Luchas 2000 473 has 3/5s of the team to save AAA.