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Edit: Out of control bold monster tamed, link actually links

I was going to work on something to post today during lunch, but I left it on my home computer. Drat.

The big news: Tonight is another turning point in the Dr. Wagner Jr./Canek feud, as the back and forth trios rivalary of the last few weeks has resulted in a title match: Universo 2K, Black Tiger, Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Canek, Rayo De Jalisco and Black Warrior.

The secondary story, which the website pushes hard, is Warrior being responible for the current champs to have the belts; after some dives gone bad, he turned on Niebla (in something that didn’t go anywhere), costing them and Atlantis the belts to the current champions. The website wonders if it could happen again and given that Warrior’s flipped sides numerous times in the past 3 years, it’s a fair question.

It’s hard for me to guess who’s going to win; beltwise, you could easily expect either side not to defend them for another six months, so there’s no indication there. If it were me, I’d have Wagner and company keep the titles, just to keep Wagner strong for now until you do the next singles match with Canek. But I could see them doing the cahnge so Wagner ends up with Canek’s title and Canek ends up with Wanger’s title. So I dunno. (Put me down for the rudos if you must.)

Digression: Since Canek’s come in and feuding with Wagner, I’ve been thinking mask match, with Canek getting Wagner’s mask. Over on tOA, tomk thinks mask match with Wagner getting Canek’s mask.

I *think* (because sometimes, after you decide your opinon, you’re totally clueless onto how you actually got there) I’m basing my finish on a crypitc message Black Metal made @ LuchaWorld and Bob Barnett’s comments about Wagner (and Tiger) having been wise with their money and don’t need to stick around if they don’t want to. No actually does that, you know? but it feels like it’s more likely than Canek doing the same.

Logically, the other way makes sense: older guy should lose his mask to somewhat less old guy. But these things are rarely based on logic.

So am I missing a tidbit here or just over thinking things as usual? Or maybe just being different?

Digression #2: I’d just take this question there (tOA), but it’s HOF season and you’re in danger of losing a limb if you get near one of those threads. I need to add the Blue Panther Gordy List to the sidebar, though. And hope Jose does one for other guys.

The fun thing about reading those discussion at tOA (and surely at other places if I bothered to) is that I learn quite a bit. The bad thing is it spurs 40 posts on the New Post board, and it’s annoying difficult to find any one particular post (about Blue Panther, let’s say.)

Digression #3: It’s amusing to read a line Jose’s evaluation of Panther mentioning no significant (two man) tag match runs, considering what he just won two weeks ago.

I’m so sure he was petitioning Casas and management to let him and Atlantis get a tag run to help their HOF shots. (It’s McGriff and 500 of lucha! Except not so sad.)

Aguayo turned? not turned?: I’m having trouble following this. First, Garza shows up and Aguayo joins him. This week, the recap make it sounds like Aguayo is having second thoughts, though he may want to be friends with Tarzan Boy and doesn’t like. And now he’s teaming with Casas against Tarzan and Hector? I’m so confused. I hope this sorts itself out soon.

The rest of the card looks like this:

– LA Park, Shocker, Brazo de Oro vs Pierroth, Okumura, Rey Buccanero
– Mistico, Volador Jr., Misterioso Jr. vs Sangre Azteca, Violencia, Arkangle
– Sombra de Plata, Zetta vs Super Comando, Koreano

Not bad.

Leyenda De Plata ’04: After not doing it last year (and doing the Blue Demon one), CMLL’s bought back the Leyenda De Plata championship/cibernetico. (It surely is a wacky concidence that Santo will be around for this one and wasn’t last year.) The reigining ’02 (fixed) is Felino, who won in a match which could be charitable described as “godawful”. Let’s hope for better things this year.

Entered in so far are
Atlantis, Emilio Charles, Tarzan Boy, Averno, Mephisto, Super Crazy, Virus, Volador Jr., Misterioso Jr. and Mistico. That leaves 6 spots to go. The Cibernetico will be next week, with the final two moving onto the semi final on 7/23, and the winner of that facing Felino on 7/30.

Elsewhere: Arena Coliseo’s Tuesday show saw a tecnico trio of Atlantis, Blue Panther and Satanico lose to Pierroth, Averno and Mephisto with much mask ripping, leading to a rematch next Tuesday. It’d be enjoyable if that led to a CMLL Tag title match, with Satanico as a trouble causing cornerperson.

Coliseo’s Sunday show sees Atlantis, Rayo and Shocker teaming up to face Universo, Mascara Ano 2000 and Emilio Charles. The same day in Guadalajara, Negro and the Mexican Trios Champions (Felino, Volador and Safari) face Fuerza, Averno, Mephisto and Bestia Salvaje. Also the same day, Niebla, Black Warrior (see how well that turn worked out) and partner TBA face Wagner, Pierroth and Black Tiger at Arena Solidarida in Monterrey.

Box Y Lucha lists a Monday Arena Puebla show as headlining with Perro Jr., Atlantis, Porky, Negro, Volador and TBA vs Shocker, Terrible, Tarzan Boy, Rey, Averno, and Violencia. Either that’s a wild 12 man tag or someone mucked two trios matches. Least they could do is flip Perro and Shocker so it’d make a little sense.

TV: Does anyone know if the Atlantis/Panther vs GdI match made air? I can’t find any tape listings that have been updated for that show.

Lucha Times was updated sometime earlier this week, but I don’t even rememember when. I hope to get to some TV this weekend but eh.

I wrote about this here and over on the main page, so I’ll skip the third recitation. The net effect of Garza’s jump and Santo coming is there’s at lesat gotta be a Aguayo/Garza vs Casas/Santo match coming up. Sorta AAA vs CMLL, though Perro has been in for a while now and they haven’t presented that way.

I always like to see Ultimo and Rey keep the titles, because they’re fun to watch, but if the cost of getting a big title match is losing the belts, I can take it. At this point in their career, Blue Panther and Atlantis seem to save their A-games for big matches, so I’m looking forward to seeing this on TV. I don’t neccesarly know that they’re going for a rematch here, and I’m not sure it’d be too horrible to give some other rudos a chance. As long as they don’t kill the belts via non-defense after the build they’ve given to them over the last few years, it’ll work out.

Problem is, whatever match is next, we may not see it. Last couple weeks, CMLL’s only aired a 30 minute show in Mexico, which means we’ll get the same 30 minutes up here. It doesn’t appear to be something on Televisa’s side – they’re doing the normal two hour slot, and they inserted repeat AAA footage.

At an hour a week, with this roster, we’re already into territory where you might not see your favorite people for months just because there’s not enough time. At a half hour, the show’s almost becoming a waste of time. Though it’d be a snap to recap, it’s almost sounding like not worth the bother.

This week’s Arena Mexico card is one a triple main event deal, with the top 3 matches not in any particular order.

1 Rayo Tapatios vs Caligula & Mesala
2 Misitco/Volador/Misterioso vs Azteca/Nitro/Arkangel
– Revenge: Canek/Rayo/Warrior vs Wagner/Tiger/Universo 2K
– Perro/Negro/Shocker vs Pierroth/Tarzan/Garza
– Atlants/Panther/Felino vs Okumura/Averno/Mephisto

Yes, they booked Aguayo with Casas event though he turned on him last week. It’s really tough get out of the tecnico army, I guess.

Sounds like they might be building to a trios title match in the near future, since they’re doing back and forth matches with the champions. Might be able to say the same of the tag titles of ex-Infernales get a win.

Card’s not horrible, but the two Arena Coliseo main events (Guapos/Satanico vs GdI/Terrible and Perro/Shocker/Atlantis vs Wagner/Tarzan/Rey) look better, even if Perro’s gonna be turning on people all week.

Alan Stone is back to teaming with Chris Stone. They really accomplished a lot there.

Lucha Times is updated. Saturday could be good. Sunday wasn’t much.

Quickly

– Vampiro’s out two months with a broken leg.
– Replacing him last night? AAA/TNA’s Hector Garza. Sounds like he ended up going tecnico at the end of the match, and he’s sticking around.
– Atlantis and Panther won the tag team titles
– Santo is due in at the end of July

Results, via KrisZ. They actually made an eljuciofinal.com for this, but I don’t think I saw the link till I saw the results.

– Negro Casas loses his hair in Cage of Death 2. Perro was the second to last, finishing Casas with a double stomp. The rudos got out of the ring first, followed by a rudo-ish Shocker.
– Dr. Wagner Jr. beats Canek for the UWA Title with a chain handed to him by corner man Apolo Dantes
– Satanico goes to five minute draws vs Emilio and Ringo. And got a plaque
– Atlantis and Blue Panther over Ultimo Guerrero and Rey Bucanero, and they wasted little time making a return challenge.
– Mistico’s team won.
– and so did Dr. X’s

Four of six on picks, and the Satanico match really shouldn’t count because how was I supposed to know they had wacky 5 minute time limits. I was thisclose to picking Negro. Darn Vampiro’s wacky hair.

News:

– So there’s a hair match in Arena Coliseo, and it’s Tony Rivera (who you may know) vs Veneno, so of course Tony wins this because he’s won a ton of undercard hair matches in Arena Coliseo and elsewhere and Veneno is Veneno.

Except, Veneno wins! Weird. I don’t know that it means anything but it’s interesting. CMLL is saying this ends a 30 hair match streak by Tony. Probably a decent streak the other way for Veneno.

Also on the show was Ultimo retaining the LH Title over Blue Panther, so he’s 1 for 1 this week.

– Why waste time till the next big show? This week’s Arena Mexico card

* Atlantis & Blue Planther vs Ultimo Guerrero & Rey Bucanero (c) for the CMLL Titles
* Perro Jr., Negro Casas, Mr. Niebla vs Vampiro, Tarzan Boy, Okumura
* Canek, Rayo Jr., Warrior vs Wagner, Tiger, Universo 2000
* Mistico, Alan Stone, Virus vs Sangre Azteca, Holligan, Loco Max
* Mr. Power & Star Man vs Ramstein & Super Comando

I’d like the champions to retain a lot more if Ultimo hadn’t already won a title match this week. Then again, I’m thinking in terms of building a program, and you can’t assume anything goes past today in CMLL. So I’ll take the champions.

If anything’s going to come of Perro being the one to cost Negro his hair, it’ll probably start here.

That’s the CMLL Trios champions wrestling together up there, but they’re pushing it more as “Wagner gets his strongest allies to help against Canek” rather than a pending title program. What a trio that’d be.

Wednesday’s main event at Arena Coliseo is Casas vs Okumura. Sunday has a special main of Mil Mascaras, Canek and Rayo de Jalisco teaming up against Universo 2000, Mascara 2000 and Terrible. They’re paying Canek and Mascaras to come in for a Sunday show? And Terrible’s in this match? And teaming with a guy he beat for his hair a few months ago? Huh.

Guadalajara has a Perro Jr. vs Universo 2K no DQ match, in case you’re wondering whatever happened to that feud. I was thinking Apolo’s interference in the Canek/Wagner match probably leads to something in Guadlajara down the road, but there’s nothing this week.

AAA News

Cibernetico lost his mask! It was a pretty dumb mask, all things considered.