Hechicero & Mistico in Leyenda de Azul final, Panther/UG, Pagano/AAA

CMLL

CMLL (FRI) 11/22/2024 Arena México [AS, CMLL, Kaiser Sports, thecubsfan]
1) Full Metal, Pequeño Polvora, Rostro De Acero DQ Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Violencia, Pierrothito CMLL | Rostro de Acero, Full Metal y Pequeño Pólvora vencen P. Olímpico, P. Violencia y Pierrothito (posted by mluchatv) CMLL-P. VIOLENCIA-P OLÍMPICO-P. PIERROTH VS ROSTRO DE ACERO-P. PÓLVORA-FULL METAL/A. MÉXICO/22-11-24 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
9:52. Excessive violence DQ against the Pierroth team as they beat up Rostro de Acero. Challenges continue to follow.
2) Capitán Suicida, Futuro, Max Star b Dark Magic, Espanto Jr., Raider  (posted by ) CMLL | Futuro, Max Star y Capitán Suicida vencen a Espantó JR., Dark Magic y Raider. (posted by mluchatv)
13:25.
3) Persephone b Tessa Blanchard CMLL - MANO A MANO / PERSEPHONE VS TESSA BLANCHARD / ARENA MÉXICO/22-11-24 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL | Persephone vence a Tessa Blanchard (posted by mluchatv)
10:30.
4) Bárbaro Cavernario, Stuka Jr., Terrible b Dragón Rojo Jr., Templario, Volador Jr. CMLL - STUKA JR-TERRIBLE-B. CAVERNARIO VS DRAGÓN ROJO JR-TEMPLARIO-VOLADOR JR./ARENA MÉXICO/22-11-24 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL | Terrible, Bárbaro Cavernario y Stuka JR. Vencen a Dragón Rojo JR., Templario y Volador JR. (posted by mluchatv)
6:50. Straight falls, with Volador and Templario friendly fire leading to the loss. Both argued post match, neither seemed to be the rudo.
5) Hechicero & Místico b Soberano Jr.EsfingeBlue PantherEuforiaStar BlackAvernoÁngel de OroGran Guerrero [Leyenda de Azul, semifinalCMLL - ELIMINATORIA POR LA LEYENDA AZUL / ARENA MÉXICO / 22-11-24 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL | Místico y El Hechicero son los finalistas para el torneo de la leyenda azul. (posted by mluchatv)
Star Black (via Hechicero, 16:02), Angel de Oro (via Mistico, 19:44), Averno (via Blue Panther, 21:13), Blue Panther (via Hechicero, 22:26), Euforia (via DQ for unmasking Hechicero, 24:13), Esfinge (via Gran Guerrero, 26:41), Gran Guerrero (via Mistico, 28:13), Soberano Jr. (via Hechicero, 33:28) leaving Hechicero and Mistico to advance to next week’s final. They fought more post match.

The cibernetico was good, if not spectacular. It’s more challenging for those to stand out with CMLL running them at least monthly. This one drifted into the nonsensical three-way fighting near the end (Soberano and Mistico were left on the same team but tried pinning each other). There was a fun rollup sequence if you’re willing to ignore that. Hechicero deciding to betray Soberano before Soberano could do the same was a surprising way to end it. Hechicero is last year’s Leyenda de Azul winner and the only story CMLL’s told about this match is how Mistico hasn’t won’t it yet. Check that one off on Friday.

The semi-main was barely a match. Volador and Templario were arguing about who would start the match (it ended up being Dragon Rojo.) I don’t know that having Volador do a singles match before the Pac match is a great idea; he’s not moving so great. It’s not so obvious that everyone’s noticed, but he’s not 100% (and Templario would probably be the better pick for a match with Pac right now.)

Persephone/Tessa wasn’t quite as exciting as the previous match between them, but it was a surprise how good Persephone did. This was a win and a definite win. I’m still doubtful Persephone is winning that tournament on 12/13 but it would be foolish to totally rule it out. CMLL’s positioning Persephone as the Stephanie Vaquer replacement with these wins, and getting her international exposure would help with that. That still is more NJPW’s decision than CMLL and it’s less certain what they’re looking for in a CMLL luchadora.

(NJPW put up a card update this weekend for the 01/05 show, which had some mild annoyance from CMLL fans about the lack of CMLL wrestlers announced so far. Mistico will eventually be on that car and possibly others, but they were always going to be later additions – NJPW doesn’t put CMLL wrestlers in big matches on their big shows.)

Capitan Suicida did the flying and was pretty great at it, but Raider was as good as or better at it working with him. Everyone who watches all these CMLL shows knows he’s good, and yet he still feels underrated because he’s down in match 2 teaming with Ola Negra. If NJPW gives him an opening on FantasticaMania, he will turn heads.

The opener was status quo on the minis. Wednesday is the bodybuilding contest – streaming probably around noon for free on YouTube – which means this week’s Informa will probably be heavy on the results for that show. Maybe they’ll sneak in the remaining 12/13 matches (perhaps those two things will be linked.) There probably won’t be room for a minis match announcement until the following week, and this hold pattern should continue.

CMLL (SAT) 11/23/2024 Arena Coliseo [CMLL, thecubsfan]
1) Leono b Sangre Imperial [lightning]
8:32
2) Draego, Hunter, Infarto b Astral, Diamond, Legendario
13:35
3) Lluvia & Princesa Sugehit b Reyna Isis & Zeuxis
13:23
4) Felino Jr., Hijo de Stuka Jr., Hijo del Villano III b Brillante Jr., Hijo de Blue Panther, Hijo del Pantera
18:10
5) Villano III Jr. b Star Jr.
11:02
6) Atlantis, Blue Panther, Octagón DQ Gran Guerrero, Stuka Jr., Último Guerrero
16:40. UG fouled Panther, who wanted a singles match next week. UG praised Blue Panther as the best wrestler from the area, but wanted a hair match.

Blue Panther and Ultimo Guerrero have both been in CMLL for the last two decades, have largely been healthy, have largely been on opposite sides, and rarely actually wrestle. They’ve been in the same match four times this year, and three of them were teaming. (One was Homenaje a Dos Leyendas.) They had a run of singles match in 2004 and another 2008, and they haven’t had a singles match in CMLL since then. Neither of them are wrestling many singles matches at this point.

Star Jr./Villano III Jr. didn’t have the big Villano III crowd support he did in Arena Mexico, so that just seems like an inconsistent thing. The more normal crowd made it all the more shocking when he actually won. It did not get the ovation it would’ve gotten against Flip Gordon. It’s his biggest singles victory he’s had since coming to CMLL. The match itself was a little less than hoped; it really picked up in the third fall but that tells you about the first two. A criticism I had of Star Jr. was it felt like all his big moves were other people’s moves he was also doing. That springboard code red he’s using as a finish now feels like his own thing.

The tercera was a lot of fast moving action, and pretty fun for that. Hijo del Pantera continues to do different fun things than the guys who’ve come up just through CMLL, and Stuka and Villano were a good duo. I recommend that one stronger than the V3/Star match if you’ve only got time for one.

Not much else to it. The women’s match was not a great effort, especially in fall 3. Octagon is listed in CMLL’s graphic as “Luchador profesional”, same as Hijo del Pantera.

CMLL (SUN) 11/24/2024 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Grako b Inquisidor [lightning]
2) Eléctrico, Principe Daniel, Retro b Apocalipsis, Cholo, Disturbio
3) Crixus, Kráneo, Vegas b Fuego, Valiente Jr., Volcano
4) Hera, Sanely, Zeuxis b Kira, La Catalina, Princesa Sugehit
5) Titán b Magia Blanca
said to be a great match
6) Ángel de Oro, Hechicero, Soberano Jr. b Flip Gordon, Máscara Dorada, Volador Jr.

Titan/Magia Blanca will air on 12/05, if it airs.

11/10 CMLL matches:

That first match is notable because fall 2 ends with the tecnicos getting DQed for throwing one Calavera out of the ring onto the other one. It’s been years since I’ve seen that as a DQ and it didn’t seem like anyone in the match knew that rule existed except Olimpico. I would’ve guess they quietly dropped it.

CMLL (TUE) 11/26/2024 Arena México
1) Aéreo vs Acero [lightning]
2) El Audaz, Eléctrico, Robin vs Disturbio, Enfermero Jr., Nitro
3) India Sioux, Kira, Skadi vs Metálica, Reyna Isis, Zeuxis
4) Xelhua vs Guerrero Maya Jr.
5) Explosivo, Fugaz, Star Black vs Magia Blanca, Magnus, Rugido
6) Dragón Rojo Jr., Máscara Dorada, Templario vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Soberano Jr., Terrible

Xelhua/Cavernario is the draw here. Unlike the title match, it’s a three-fall match. Asking Fugaz, among others, to wrestle a half-day before the big bodybuilding contest is rough. (That’ll stream at noon on Wednesday. I probably won’t put up a post until afterwards.)

Acero/Aereo is a first-time singles match between long-time tag partners. They’ve also been left out of the minis feud so far, along with Fantasy and Mercurio. The result might indicate if those four are getting added or if this is strictly a four-team trios feud.

Zeuxis told La Aficon there’s still misogyny in lucha libre, though is happy with the progress CMLL women have made.

Gran Guerrero mentions he’s currently working on getting his US work visa. He’s seen his brother wrestle in the US for years and wants to do some of that too.

MLW announced Okumura & Kojima versus Minoru Suzuki & Ikuro Kwon for the MLW Tag Team championship on their 12/05 show. They’ve also added Hechicero and Averno to 01/11 near Dallas show. There are now 10 CMLL wrestlers announced for that show.

AAA

In the version of Guerra de Titanes that AAA aired in Mexico, Pagano didn’t show up in front of the crowd until his title match. Unimas aired a Pagano/Dorian Roldan in-ring worked shoot segment from earlier in the night. I guess they couldn’t fit in live and it wouldn’t make sense to air after, but it was also a pretty big promo. Roldan started the segment, talking about how he was “giving” Pagano a mega championship match against Alberto tonight. AAA cut to Pagano interrupting, berating Roldan for lying to the Juarez people. Pagano said he was only getting this shot because someone else got hurt. Pagano said this was not a storyline – using those words and more – and that he’d been asking Roldan for a title match and singles matches for years, and Roldan has refused. Pagano quoted Roldan as telling Pagano that both he and Psycho Clown were the new La Parkas, good for drawing children but not for anything beyond that, and the title matches were for other people. Pagano clearly sees that as immensely frustrating and feels disrespected by the idea Roldan was ‘giving’ him anything – he’s worked hard on every house, he sacrificed time with his family, he’s earned all that he’s got. Roldan tried to respond, but his microphone was off – I think the idea was the loyal Juarez production crew turned off his mic, but it’s AAA, so it’s hard to be sure it wasn’t just a gaffe. Pagano did a great job of conveying his genuine emotions, though obviously, this was part of a storyline since it turned up on AAA TV. I’m glad it turned up on Unimas; it’s a miss; AAA didn’t tack it on to YouTube upload.

The Pagano/Alberto match and the Tokyo Bad Boy/Hermindad match aired. That was in for week 1. AAA seems to be squeezing out three weeks of Guerra de Titanes. They can easily get two more weeks out of the five matches left to air and Vampiro’s retirement match.

Space had part of one of the Dia del Muertos-themed Showcenter events. It’s weird to see that scenery turn up in late November, but AAA’s focus was trying to draw a crowd for that show and not how out-of-date it would look on TV. These Showcenter cards tend to offer nothing notable in match quality or plot development. This episode was no different, and next week’s episode seems the same.

  • La Fashion & Sexy Andre beating Rey Sultan & Valdez Jr. (name missing from the results) wasn’t much. La Fashion didn’t stand out as much in this match.
    • La Fashion later told Mas Lucha Jr. that he was hoping to pick up more AAA dates, but had not heard back from them. He also noted that he was now banned from working CMLL shows, which always seems to catch luchadors by surprise when they work these Showcenter cards – I guess they don’t consider it real AAA TV work either.
  • Drago won a three way match. There was a fun match to be had with him and Epyidemus Jr., who looked the best so far on these shows. It appears as if AAA has to book Antifaz del Norte on every one of these shows. He was assigned to this match and not a positive inclusion.
  • Psycho Circus versus Galeno del Mal, Pierroth Jr. and new Taurus was a low effort house show match.

The Showcenter has added risers to the seats on the stage, which surely helps the view for the people paying prices to sit up there.

Other News

AEW announced The Beast Mortos for the Blue block of their Continental Classic. There were no CMLL (or NJPW or any outside) wrestlers included, as expected. Mortos is there to have good matches, lose most of the time, and upset someone to make the math work.

Mortos is in a block with Kazuchika Okada, which will be a talking point for Mexican wrestling fans who talk about it on the internet once they figure it out. A big pain point for Mexican fans of CMLL is how the top NJPW wrestlers (the heavyweights) never come to Mexico to face the Mexicans. Tanahashi did, but Okada didn’t, Ospreay didn’t, Omega didn’t, Jay White didn’t – and if they do show up, they generally face the CMLL wrestlers in trios matches. (This gets blamed on CMLL booking, though it is consistent with how NJPW views and books CMLL wrestlers – look against at Wrestle Dynasty.) Okada’s not a NJPW wrestler, he’s an AEW wrestler now – same as Mortos. Still, seeing Mortos get the singles match the CMLL wrestlers have not gotten will frustrate some people.

Rey Fenix will do a lucha libre seminar on Thursday at Penta’s Arena del Valle. He hasn’t been seen around wrestling since AEW stopped booking the Lucha Brothers, though he’s believed to still be under contract with AEW. I’ve presumed that Penta’s AEW’s contract has expired – that seems right based on the timeline from when Lucha Brothers going to WWE originally came up – but it hasn’t officially been reported anywhere. (Maybe that’s what Fightful is teasing today.)

Segunda Caida writes about a 2009 GALLI show. I think I have that DVD around here somewhere.

A profile of Oaxaca’s Aguila Negra, who’s trying to wrestle in Mexico City.

Leyenda de Azul tonight, Lucha x el Barrio, lucha libre Rampage

CMLL

CMLL (FRI) 11/22/2024 Arena México
1) Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Violencia, Pierrothito vs Full Metal, Pequeño Polvora, Rostro De Acero
2) Capitán Suicida, Futuro, Max Star vs Dark Magic, Espanto Jr., Raider
3) Tessa Blanchard vs Persephone
4) Dragón Rojo Jr., Templario, Volador Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Stuka Jr., Terrible
5) Místico vs Soberano Jr.EsfingeHechiceroBlue PantherEuforiaStar BlackAvernoÁngel de OroGran Guerrero [Leyenda de Azul, semifinal]

Mistico will be in the final three, or he will give up his title for no reason. Averno could cost him the match, but I think he’ll probably get to the final against someone. The semi-main has the Cavernarios against Dragon Rojo. I assumed Tessa was getting a win back when this was announced; now I assume Persephone isn’t losing before she goes into a tournament. I could be wrong twice. Raider has a lot of work to do in match two. Match one will end with challenges, and it’s about time for them to have a match. (Maybe not this week since the next Informa will be bodybuilding heavy.) I don’t think I’m watching this one live due to other plans.

Soberano Jr. wants to face Mistico in the final and beat the best. He also dismissed Blue Panther as a threat at this point in his career. Angel de Oro said he’s grateful to be in the match and wants to win again.

Good luck to Atlantis Jr. in whatever mysterious personal thing he has going on today that CMLL had to explain as the reason he’s not in Leyenda de Azul. He is booked on a show near me on Saturday, but it’s one where they put the poster out weeks ago and would get pulled if the real story for him being off the show is him flying to the US for a AEW pre-show match. I think the real story might be Atlantis Jr.’s wasn’t in the plans to win or finish near the end of this tournament, and so they decided to pass on him losing.

That show is a Lucha Libre Total event, with Místico, Bárbaro Cavernario, Averno, Mephisto, Cancerbero, Virus, Súper Astro Jr., Hijo de Octagón, Atlantis Jr., Guerrero Maya Jr., Okumura, and India Sioux all booked through CMLL. The same crew is in Waukegan the next day. This group typically brings in four luchadoras at a time – they’ve got the Wagner Brothers, Oni el Bendito and Emperador Azteca on 12/15 in Berwyn – so bringing in 12 at once is unusual. They also do not announce matches ahead of time and charge high ticket prices; both shows are $55 get in price day of show for general admission. MLW had a similar amount of CMLL wrestlers and charged $10 GA a few weeks ago. That Saturday show is as close as anyone comes to running a lucha libre show near me, but that’s a high price and I know what effort level to expect in front of a couple of hundred people in a town they might never be back in. There’s also the AEW PPV going on at the same time, though AEW’s not done a great job of making me interested in that one. I’ll probably stay home, because it’s easier just to spend 50 and lay on the couch watching wrestling than go some place else on a cold November day, but I’m undecided.

Mistico is wrestling in the Chicago area on Saturday and Sunday and then again on Wednesday for AEW. I thought perhaps Mistico would get a nice couple of days off in the windy city, but instead he’s flying back to Mexico to work more shows.

CMLL (MON) 11/25/2024 Arena Puebla
1) Astro & Meyer vs Dreyko & Hijo del Perverso
2) Valiente Jr. vs Multy
3) Capitán Suicida, Fuego, Hijo del Pantera vs El Perverso, Prayer, Rey Apocalipsis
4) Arkalis, Rey Samuray, Xelhua vs Dulce Gardenia, Espíritu Negro, Rey Cometa
5) Atlantis, Flip Gordon, Titán vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Hijo de Stuka Jr., Terrible
6) Místico, Stigma, Templario vs Gran Guerrero, Stuka Jr., Último Guerrero

The main event is a rematch from Gran Guerero cheating Mistico next week. Hijo de Stuka Jr. isn’t going to be the new caveman but Hijo de Stuka Jr. being the new caveman would be fun.

CMLL (TUE) 11/26/2024 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Exterminador, Javier Cruz Jr., Maléfico vs Infierno, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno
2) Hatanna, Nexy, Valkiria vs Emperatriz, Lady Shadow, Miss Guerrera
3) Leo, Omar Brunetti, Vaquero Jr. vs Arlequín, Bestia Negra, Cris Skin
4) Dark Magic, El Elemental, Yutani vs Furia Roja, Guerrero de la Muerte, Ráfaga
5) La Catalina vs Dark Silueta
6) Atlantis Jr., Dulce Gardenia, Místico vs Averno, Difunto, Euforia

Elemental is alive but back to teaming with Yutani and Dark Magic in Guadalajara. Is that truly living? Not much notable going on here.

CMLL Informa did announce the four women in their qualifier for the 01/05 International Women’s Cup. CMLL went with the idea of making it all people who had won something in 2024:

  • Zeuxis (CMLL World Women’s Champion)
  • Sanely (Mexican National Women’s Champion)
  • Persephone (Winner of the CMLL Universal Tournament)
  • Reyna Isis (Winner of the Grand Prix)

The match will take place as part of the 12/13 international-focused show, which I should’ve thought about when guessing Tessa would be in it – she already has a match for that show.

Zeuxis seems like the favorite to win, and Reyna Isis seems like she’d have a shot. I’m not really excited about this lineup. It should be fine. The ultimate winner gets a shot at a title of their choice, though it is hard to believe a CMLL person will win or anyone else will choose to challenge for a CMLL title.

CMLL Informa also announced Xelhua was officially in Fuerza Poblana, after teaming with them the last few months as a sort of associate. It was pitched like Stigma, Xelhua and Arkalis were now the main trio of the unit. Guerrero Maya Jr. left the group, of course. Pegasso seemed to be a main member but hasn’t wrestled outside Puebla since late September. Pegasso seems like a prime candidate for a late-career mask match in the next year or so. Rey Samuray is also supposed to be a member but appeared less infrequently.

AEW taped two weeks of Rampage last night. It wasn’t immediately clear what it is when, but my impression is all of these are airing on 11/30 (a Saturday due to NHL games)

  • Komander vs Hechicero
  • Beast Mortos vs Seprentico
  • Atlantis Jr., Mascara Dorada, Katsuyori Shibata vs Top Flight & Action Andretti
  • Thunder Rosa vs TBA

Rampage is a zombie show; it’s going away at the end of December (maybe 12/20). AEW’s already secured a TV deal without, and there is zero pressure to do anything on it. AEW has been using it in a hyper-logical way, using it as a space to give wins to low mid-level wrestlers before they lose to high mid-level wrestlers on Collision or Dynamite. It serves a purpose. It’s not very exciting. I’ve argued elsewhere that AEW should instead use the last days of Rampage as an experimental place, or just an opportunity to do weird stuff for the fun of it because there is no risk in failing any more. It makes even more sense to do so when the show is going to be moved to a strange hour and a strange day.

I don’t think that anyone listens to me (they do not do that) but it does seem like someone decided to go out of the box for an all lucha libre edition of AEW Rampage. Earlier on Wednesday, John Pollock, on his podcast, jokingly suggested Rob and myself be handed the reigns of AEW Rampage. Hours later, Rampage was an all-lucha libre show. My position remains clear: I do not book AEW. It’s becoming harder to refute the charges.

Aside 1: Because social media is a land of conspiracy theories and acting out on grievances, I saw people speculate that the CMLL wrestlers were bumped from Dynamite for Chris Jericho’s segment or whatever else people didn’t like on Dynamite. AEW could’ve been more transparent in their announcement that the CMLL wrestlers appearing on the taping didn’t mean they were necessarily going to appear on Dynamite. But I’m pretty sure the idea from the start was to do a lucha libre hour of Rampage, and they were never meant to be on Dynamite this week.

Aside 2: an all lucha libre edition of Rampgae airing at 5pm on a Saturday against a WWE PPV is going to bring out the worst people on social media, some who are going to be trolling for attention. They’re not worth your time. The rating truly doesn’t matter if it’s bad – show’s going away – and it’s a nice bonus meaning not a lot if it’s OK or good.

Komander’s participation is notable. It was apparent Komander and AAA were breaking things off even before his final match in TripleMania Mexico City, and he’s worked no AAA shows since that time. (He has worked on an EMW show after they’ve seemingly dropped their relationship with AAA.) It’s another thing entirely for CMLL to believe someone’s done with AAA, and that must’ve taken some convincing by Rocky Romero and others at AEW.

QueMoniito posted a graphic on Wednesday indicating he’s still fighting for the rights to his name. He also posted a short video, asking people to share that he’s still taking all his upcoming bookings and nothing has changed there. He said there’d be more info soon. It appears legal battle is still ongoing.

ESTO caught up with Mistico, seemingly at the sports awards from a few days, and got in some good questions. The bigger one is the second one: “what did you think of the criticism of towards your match versus Chris Jericho?” Mistico says they had two different styles and they clashed, but he enjoyed the match and he’s thankful that Chris Jericho came to Mexico to fulfill that dream match and fight him one on one. “We all have good and bad matches”, but Mistico still feel people enjoyed the idea of seeing them together and moved on after. No one can take away that they were the main event of the 91st Aniversario show either. The other question is more logic based: “if you gave up the Historic Middleweight Championship to move out of that division, why not the MLW Middleweight championship?” Mistico tries to make sense of it by saying there are different weight divisions and cutoffs in different promotions – MLW just has middleweight and heavyweight for the men, and CMLL has light heavyweight in between. Mistico says he’d give the MLW one if MLW asked, but he’d rather lose titles in the ring. The implication there is it was CMLL call for him to vacate their title.

I never got around to putting up this week’s Puebla (11/17) until Thursday night.

AAA

The TV split for the weekend

  • Space will have part one of the 11/03 Showcenter
  • Unimas will finish part two of the 11/03 Showcenter
  • YouTube will have part two of 11/17 Guerra de Titanes

No taping this weekend.

Dragon Suicida won the INJUVE Lucha x el Barrio competition, with Andy Panda Jr. second. Puma de Oro and Radioactivo finished tied for third. The original idea was the top 3 finishers would earn AAA one-year contracts. Maybe they’ll give them to all four. Those are all familiar names because Radioactivo, Andy Panda Jr., and Dragon Suicida all made it to the final match in the January 2024 version of this same contest.

Dragon Suicida works a ton of small shows around the Mexico City/Mexico State area, but doesn’t seem to have a home base and is used mostly in the first half of shows He’s a known guy but not a big name at all. Andy Panda Jr. is a panda luchador. He’s also is (or was) one-third of Big Lucha’s Delta Force as Morfosis; they’ve acknowledged the double life. He’s TV-ready as a comedy figure – he could easily slide in with Nino Hamburgesa and Mr. Iguana – but the gimmick may limit how far he can go. Puma de Oro is an Abismo Negro Jr. trainee, like last year’s winners Dick Angelo 3G and Legendario (now Taurus & Bengala.) Last year’s third-place winner, Lady Wind, never wrestled for AAA outside of shows in her home area of Xalapa. Radioactivo appeared on TV more than her; he and Extasis defeated the Money Machine in one of the better AAA matches of the year and then were never seen again.

I guess that’s a bigger statement of what happened with the last competition: AAA put the winners (except Lady Wind) and a lot of the other INJUVE participants on shows early in the year. Everyone but the winners vanished as they shifted more into Retro/Origenes matches. Those people disappeared by the time TripleMania Mexico City was over, and what was left was the prelim people who had barely been seen in months. Dick Angelo 3G and Legendario wrestled under their real name on the evening show after winning in the afternoon, and then were next seen as Taurus and Bengala. It’s fair to expect the same here: maybe Dragon Suicida, Andy Panda Jr., Puma de Oro and Radioactivo wrestle once with those gimmicks, and then it’s off to looking through the big book of AAA trademarked characters to put these guys under. Perhaps Andy Panda Jr. gets changed less than the rest, because he’s already got a gimmick, they’re just going to want it to be one they won.

Also finishing in the top six were Shere Khan (who also made it far last year) and El Cardenal (a complete unknown. Rey Espartano, Legado, Kenji, and Rey Cosmico were runner-ups and invited to join Faby Apache’s training class. INJUVE held a women’s match with Diosa Nix, Sairely, Adhara and Mary Caproal, but it doesn’t seem like they finished top 10. These are a lot of familiar names; the Mexico City talent pool isn’t deep and hasn’t changed much in 10 months.

Plans must’ve changed with the INJUVE contest; the original idea was the finals on 12/07, and the latest press release says the winners will be recognized on the 12/07 show and wrestle a match on that show. They also say Shere Khan and Sairely will also be invited to wrestle on AAA shows at some point.

Mas Lucha has interviews with the winners are one more

  • Dragon Suicida mentions going to AAA events as a child and is excited to be on one. He felt the big difference this time was he only knew about that one shortly in advance. He correctly figured INJUVE and AAA would run another LuchaXelBarrio and spent the year making it his goal to get in the best shape possible.
  • Andy Panda Jr. noted he’s wrestled under multiple identities – there’s one beyond Panda and Morfosis that he starts to say before getting distracted – and just had a feeling that Panda was the right one for this competition because of the personality factor. He still wants to prove that even, though he’s a ‘fantasy’/comedy character, those characters can do more than just comedy
  • Radioactivo is very proud of being third, and is happy his Delta Force ally (Morfosis/Andy Panda) also made it through. It’d be great if all of Delta Force came together in a new universe of AAA
  • Puma de Oro credits his success to not treating his mask loss as a setback, but instead growing and learning afterwards.
  • runner up Cosmico felt he learned a lot just from doing the competition and will learn now training with Faby Apache.
    • Cosmico and Radioactivo are both from Xalapa. They thank Dr. Ricardo Munoz, who runs the Lucha Libre Radioactivo shows in that city. Even prior to that, he’s sponsored these guys and others (CMLL’s Legendario) so they could afford to relocate to Mexico City and advance their careers.

AAA has a live event on the 6th in Tijuana.

AAA (FRI) 12/06/2024 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) Colmillo de Plata & Garra de Oro vs Kamik-C & Skalibur
2) Anubis vs Belcegor
3) Hijo Del Vikingo & Laredo Kid vs Alpha Wolf & Dragón Bane
4) Dave The Clown, Murder Clown, Panic Clown vs Bestia 666, Hijo de Rey Misterio, Tony Casanova
5) Galeno del Mal & Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Forastero & Sansón
6) Cibernético & Pagano vs D Luxe & Sam Adonis

Match 3 and 5 have gotten attention. It sounds like Los Golpeadors have gotten more polished over their time in NOAH and maybe lost some of the bad habits they had picked up in the indies the last couple of years. (NOAH fans who don’t watch Mexican wrestling may look at this sentence like I have three heads; it’s all relative.) They, and the Wagners, also can’t be cheap to bring in right now. Pagano and Sam Adonis are also here after not working much AAA TV. Tijuana’s a competitive market – EMW, The Crash, Lucka Libre and Cholo de Tijuana will all run this same building in the last two months of the year – so a stronger card may be necessary to compete. It still seems like there’s a lot of money going toward talent on this show, whereas AAA seems to be going a more cost-efficient route on their actual TV tapings. I’m glad the people in Tijuana get to see the match and I’ll try to watch it if it turns up online, but the strategy here is more intriguing to me.

Laredo Kid challenges Moose for the TNA X Division Championship on 11/29. They did a quick angle to set this up on Impact Thursday. Moose is an unconventional X Division champion, Laredo Kid is a traditional X Division wrestler, it’s probably just a first defense before Moose goes onto whatever he’s doing with that title in the same way as the Alberto/Laredo match. At least Laredo Kid gets a singles PPV match; this is his first 1v1 on an Impact PPV if I’m using cagematch correctly.

(There’s an alternative timeline where this match is instead Vikingo/Laredo and that would’ve been cool too.)

Box y Lucha notes that Pagano has replaced Cibernetico on the 12/07 show in Mexicali. He’s on the Mexico City taping that day. Unsure if that means Alberto was going to challenge someone else originally on 12/07 or if it was poor AAA scheduling.

There was some controversy about Vampiro being announced for a show in Italy. He had always said his retirement was Mexico only, though AAA didn’t advertise that part much, and no one much listed Vampiro’s details. The absurd part to me is this came up about a show he’s working on in Italy on October 31, 2025, and something like that announced 11 months in advance is highly unlikely to happen as planned initially anyway. (The promotion did run a show with US names back in October.) The promotion putting it on is NWE; Vampiro said earlier he would work for them post-AAA, and now he’s saying he’s part owner. NWE was a big deal in Italy for a short time in the ’00s and is forever trying to recapture that moment.

Other News

There’s a new lucha libre exhibit in Leon.

CMLL/AEW, Copa Revolucionarias, AAA 2025 plans

CMLL

CMLL (MON) 11/18/2024 Arena Puebla [CMLL, EnlineadeportivaHeraldo Deportes, thecubsfan]
1) Black Tiger & Millenium b Hijo del Perverso & Rencor CMLL EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA: TRANSMISIÓN GRATUITA 18-NOVIEMBRE-2024 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
18:25
2) Capitán Suicida & Hijo del Pantera b Perverso & Prayer CMLL EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA: TRANSMISIÓN GRATUITA 18-NOVIEMBRE-2024 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
17:11
3) Persephone b Tessa BlanchardIndia SiouxLa CatalinaSkadiKiraReyna IsisZeuxisOlympiaHera [Copa Mujeres Revolucionarias] CMLL EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA: TRANSMISIÓN GRATUITA 18-NOVIEMBRE-2024 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
India Sioux replaced Lluvia, Olympia replaced Sanely on Monday. Order of elimination: Hera (via Kira, 9:10), Olympia (via Catalina, 11:54), Kira (via Isis, 14:12), Skadi (via Zeuxis, 15:09), Reina Isis (via India Sioux, 16:28), India Sioux (via Persephone, 17:12), Zeuxis (via Tessa, 18:26), Catalina (via Persephone, 20:07), Tessa (via Persephone, 22:16) leaving Persephone as the winner
4) Gran Guerrero, Stuka Jr., Último Guerrero b Místico, Stigma, Templario CMLL EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA: TRANSMISIÓN GRATUITA 18-NOVIEMBRE-2024 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
18:45. Gran Guerrero beat Mistico with a mask pull, setting up a rematch next week.
5) Averno, Euforia, Mephisto © b Magnus, Rugido, Volador Jr. [CMLL TRIOSCMLL EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA: TRANSMISIÓN GRATUITA 18-NOVIEMBRE-2024 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:52. Euforia & Mephisto beat Magnus & Rugido to retain. First defense

This aired as a surprise stream on Monday evening, and it was free for everyone. It had Puebla energy; the opener was long, the segunda was very solid but not particularly flashy. The women’s cibernetico was steadier than a lot of them from October. Match 4 was about the usual main event level. The trios title match was disappointing; the Depredadores could’ve done something fun like tecnicos but just went through the motions.

CMLL (TUE) 11/19/2024 Arena México [CMLL, Kaiser Sports, thecubsfan]
1) Astral & Robin b Astro Boy Jr. & Dragón de Fuego CMLL | Robin y Astral vencen a Dragón de Fuego y Astro Boy Jr. (posted by mluchatv)
13:25
2) Amapola, Metálica, Olympia b India Sioux, Skadi, Tabata CMLL | Skady, Tabata e India Sioux vencen a Amapola, Metálica y Olympia (posted by mluchatv)
13:03
3) Capitán Suicida b Hijo de Stuka Jr. [lightningCMLL | Capitán Suixida derrotó a Hijo de Stuka Jr. (posted by mluchatv)
9:30
4) Arkalis, Stigma, Xelhua b Guerrero Maya Jr., Hijo del Villano III, Vegas CMLL | Xelhua, Arkalis y Stigma vencen a Guerrero Maya Jr., Hijo de Villano III Jr. y Vegas (posted by mluchatv)
13:58. Xelhua beat Maya with a mask pull after Maya did the same to him last week. They set up a match for next week, appears to be a non-title one.
5) Flip Gordon, Star Jr., Titán DQ Magia Blanca, Magnus, Rugido CMLL | Titán, Star Jr. y Flip Gordon vencen por descalificación a Los Depredadores (posted by mluchatv)
9:44. Straight falls, Magia Blanca got caught unmasking Titan. They’ll have a singles match on Sunday.
6) Atlantis Jr., Dragón Rojo Jr., Máscara Dorada b Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero, Valiente CMLL | Atlantis Jr, Máscara Dorada y Dragón Rojo Jr vencen a Último Guerrero, Niebla Roja y Valiente (posted by mluchatv)
12:07

The live stream had issues through the first three matches, making them increasingly unwatchable. The Suicida/Stukita looked like it could be fun but you shouldn’t bother with those first three matches until/unless they upload a clean version.

CMLL restarted the stream before match four, the rest of the match was fine and streamed fine. It was good effort for a Tuesday show, though nothing you have to see. Match 4 & 5 made it clear the bigger matches are down the road. Ultimo Guerrero tried to recreate the KeMonito flip spot in the first match with the new guy, but the new guy didn’t really know how to take it.

CMLL (TUE) 11/19/2024 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Astro Oriental, Logan, Último Ángel b Infierno, Mortis, Ponzoña Jr.
2) Gallo Jr., Obek, Rafaga Jr. b Rav, Shezmu, Temerario
3) Calavera Jr. I & Calavera Jr. II b Draego & Persa
4) Atlantis & Blue Panther b Rey Bucanero & Satánico
5) Dark Silueta & Persephone b Kira & La Catalina
6) Barboza, Difunto, Zandokan Jr. b Dulce Gardenia, Esfinge, Star Black

Not much to say. Attendance didn’t look good.

Mistico was an award present at the first ever Victory Prize Mexico sports awards on Tuesday.

Mascara Dorada, Hechicero, and Mistico are scheduled for the AEW event tonight, though not on the show at all. AEW hasn’t officially said they’ll be on Dynamite at this point. AEW is already taping Rampage and maybe Ring of Honor tonight.

Q101’s (and Voices of Wrestling’s) Case Lowe has an interview with Tony Khan that posted this morning. CMLL comes up; Khan continues to be very happy with the relationship and points out Mistico remains undefeated in AEW. That CMLL part of the conversation ends with Khan saying that he “can’t wait to bring AEW to Mexico.”. Lowe follows up on that, asking if he meant that it’s happening, and Khan backs off a bit, saying that “sooner or later, it absolutely has to happen” and that it would happen with CMLL in Arena Mexico. Khan does not put a date and does not say for sure it is happening. It’s also comes off as if he fully expects it to happen in 2025 and this was just not the point to announce it.

(My name comes up in this CMLL discussion. I was not expecting to get praised in a video on Q101’s YouTube this morning; I’m almost willing to figure Q101 for searing the lyrics to Santeria in my brain.)

Another big thing from that interview is Tony Khan saying AEW’s Continental Classic field will not be released “in full” until after Saturday’s Full Gear show. This is AEW’s version of NJPW’s G1. CMLL wrestlers are hardly ever in the G1 and I expect there’s the same chance of them being in this, but I guess you never know.

CMLL (FRI) 11/22/2024 Arena México
1) Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Violencia, Pierrothito vs Full Metal, Pequeño Polvora, Rostro De Acero
2) Capitán Suicida, Futuro, Max Star vs Dark Magic, Espanto Jr., Raider
3) Tessa Blanchard vs Persephone
4) Dragón Rojo Jr., Templario, Volador Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Stuka Jr., Terrible
5) Místico vs Soberano Jr.EsfingeHechiceroBlue PantherEuforiaStar BlackAvernoÁngel de OroGran Guerrero [Leyenda de Azul, semifinal]

It would be odd for CMLL to make an extra effort to explain Mistico being in this tournament without him at least making it to the end. Maybe they’re setting up the Mistico/Hechicero match here. Maybe it’s Euforia getting the post-mask loss rebound win.

CMLL (SAT) 11/23/2024 Arena México
1) Leono vs Sangre Imperial
2) Astral, Diamond, Legendario vs Draego, Hunter, Infarto
3) Lluvia & Princesa Sugehit vs Reyna Isis & Zeuxis
4) Brillante Jr., Hijo de Blue Panther, Hijo del Pantera vs Felino Jr., Hijo de Stuka Jr., Hijo del Villano III
5) Star Jr. vs Villano III Jr.
6) Atlantis, Blue Panther, Octagón vs Gran Guerrero, Stuka Jr., Último Guerrero

Villano III Jr. and Star Jr. have a big match, though I wish it were one fall. Match 4 is full of Juniors of very different excitement levels. I’m happy when I see Villano, Pantera, and Stuka wrestle; I’m not as happy to see Felino or Hijo de Blue Panther, and I feel like I never see Brillante. Draego pops back up here for the first time since January.

CMLL (MON) 11/25/2024 Arena México
1) Grako vs Inquisidor [lightning]
2) Eléctrico, Principe Daniel, Retro vs Apocalipsis, Cholo, Disturbio
3) Fuego, Valiente Jr., Volcano vs Crixus, Kráneo, Vegas
4) Kira, La Catalina, Princesa Sugehit vs Hera, Sanely, Zeuxis
5) Titán vs Magia Blanca
6) Flip Gordon, Máscara Dorada, Volador Jr. vs Ángel de Oro, Hechicero, Soberano Jr.

I hope Titan/Maiga Blanca airs.

MLW announced Magnus versus Titan for their 12/05 show. This appears to be part of the taping to air later (probably 12/19.) MLW also announced Dark Panther and Mascara Dorada for their 01/11 show near Dallas. Dark Panther seems like a guy who is too deep in CMLL’s roster to get noticed but would do well internationally, though he’s probably there just to team with his father. The bigger picture is that MLW keeps announcing CMLL names for this show; it seems to be meant to be like the Cicero shows with a heavy CMLL presence to draw in people who MLW otherwise may not be of interest.

NJPW announced a four-promotion International Women’s Tournament. CMLL, AEW, ROH, and Stardom will each hold four-way qualifiers, and the winners will wrestle on the 01/05 show. The winner will earn a title shot, though that prize is probably immaterial to lucha libre discussion. No participants or dates are announced for any of the qualified. CMLL may announce their participants as soon as tonight’s CMLL Informa.

A dozen in CMLL could logically be in that four-way, and no one person has to be in it. I might as well wait to speculate until CMLL narrows it down to 4 since that portion may happen a few hours after you read this. What level of participation CMLL will truly have on that 01/05 Tokyo Dome has been an open question for months. This is uncharted territory. The only sure thing is that Mistico will somehow be part of it, but I’ve got no feeling that he’ll be joined by one or two more people or ten. It’s rare for NJPW to fly over CMLL wrestlers just to work one show, though I guess some could find their way on NJPW’s New Year’s Dash the same day. CMLL women also tended to tour Japan early in the year, which is why Jarochita & Lluvia ended up on FantasticaMania last year. There’s been no mention of any tour this year, but they may be waiting for this tournament to take place as not to spoil the outcome.

(I think there’s a good chance Tessa is in the four-way qualifier, and people will freak out on social media. I don’t think it’s a great use of energy. I’m sure people who are friendly to her will eventually try to re-introduce her to non-CMLL fans, but not on a show of that magnitude. She’s finishing second place in many ciberneticos and tournaments lately, but she’s not won much outside of the tag titles. CMLL thinks she’s rather good, but they’re not the decision-makers on the winner. And even when they are, she wins much less than people realize.)

Lluvia did an interview talking about her career.

AAA

AAA officially announced the 12/08 Monterrey show on Tuesday. There are no changes from what was announced a couple of weeks ago. The main event is Alberto, Mesias, and Pierroth—essentially the lead rudo group—against Octagon Jr., Cibernetico, and TBA. AAA probably will need another challenger for Alberto after they get through Cibernetico and before they get to Latin Lover. They could go back to Vikingo, or that mystery person could be an introduction to someone else in that role.

El Planchitas latest column for Record reveals AAA has plans on centering 2025 around Alberto el Patron and Latin Lover. Anyone who watches AAA TV or even just the last TripleMania should’ve figured that out. Planchitas’ information is from a luncheon AAA quietly held with sponsors (both current and potential), where they pitched that feud between well-known people as a reason to partner with AAA. The claim in Record is Alberto was originally signed through this December, and AAA and Alberto agreed to another one-year contract for 2025. The reporting says Latin Lover is preparing but is unsure if he’ll wrestle.

Planchitas pushes this as a change in plans. It’s been the plain obvious plan for AAA since TripleMania Mexico City. It’s not hard to work backward to figure out it was likely the plan from the moment Latin Lover agreed to come back to AAA, as the eye angle started right after. There’s been no hint of any other direction. AAA’s post-TripleMania has been Alberto killing off the other AAA tecnicos one by one until Latin Lover has no choice but to get in the ring. Either they’ve had those guys locked in since running the angle in August, or they’ve lost their minds. This just serves as a reminder that 2025 AAA will likely look much like 2024 AAA, however you feel about that.

The real news is buried in the last sentence: AAA told sponsors it plans to run “more 10 times in Mexico City in 2025.” That’s a lot! They’re going to run 7 times in Mexico City this year (5 times at Juan de la Barrera, 1 time at Arena Ciudad de Mexico, and 1 time at the military base), and that’s been a lot. AAA looks to end the year with 21 tapings this year, a bit more than it looked a few months ago. Next year could look like

  • 10 tapings in Mexico City (8 Juan de la Barrera shows, 1 military base, 1 TripleMania)
  • 2 other TripleManias (Tijuana, Monterrey)
  • 4 Showcenters events
  • 5 in the few safe cities they go to (Queretaro, Saltillo, Aguascalientes for Verano de Escandalo, Guadalajara for Heroes Inmortales, Juarez for Guerra de Titanes)

That’s 21 shows, and only about 8 cities visited.
In 2019, AAA ran 33 tapings, and went to 28 cities.

2025 will probably end up a little different in reality – replace some of the Showcenters with other tapings, maybe they add one or two instead of doing the filler TV shows, maybe they tape a show in Japan with GLEAT – but that’s the general sketch of things in 10 Mexico City shows. It’s just hard to believe they’ll commit to that. Mexico City has easily been the most potent place for AAA this year, but they’ve tried to run Mexico City very early in their career when they were very hot, and it didn’t appear sustainable. It’s not like running a lot of other cities was working out for AAA in 2022 and 2023, though. It is an abandonment of Antonio Pena’s dream for AAA – they’d be different from EMLL and UWA by taking their A-shows around the country – for a promotion where the legacy of Antonio Pena gets talked about a lot. The business does change.

Mas Lucha posted interviews from the last couple of tapings. Decay and Psycho Circus say what you’d expect. Latin Lover talks about storyline stuff, including signing people—that still hasn’t gone anywhere. He says at different points he’s convinced Marisela to hire people and that he still hasn’t. He also says he told his family he wouldn’t return to having matches but is considering it if no one else can stop Alberto.

Fiscal told Mas Lucha he’s no longer with the Vipers. I got that backward on Monday. Abismo didn’t turn on the Vipers; instead, everyone betrayed Fiscal. It’s a late 90s move; a swerve no one saw it coming because it doesn’t make sense. Fiscal is a tecnico now. Psicosis tried to explain that the group was stronger with Abismo than Fiscal, so he called to go with the guy who cost him his mask (and they all gave up the trios titles in the process.) Maybe next week, Record will break the news that Fiscal and Abismo will have a big feud in 2025.

Progress Wrestling announced that El Hijo del Vikingo is off their 11/24 show due to injury. He did wrestle in Saltillo this past week—or at least he was in the match. The Progress story is that he’s not ready to wrestle at a high level yet, and they’ll bring him in at a later date.

The Lucha X el Barrio competition kicked off on Tuesday. This first stage last year was mostly about weeding out people for fitness, and that seems to be the case again. There’s already a press release saying 160 people have signed up, and 80 people made it to the next roundThis confuses me a bit because INJUVE said it’s a 3-day tryout lasting through Thursday, yet they already know how many people are advancing. Maybe they know they’re taking just the top 80 no matter what. That next round, with wrestling matches, will take place on 11/20 and 11/21. The final round of matches will occur on the afternoon of the 12/07 TV taping.

Other News

In his obituary of Coloso Colosetti, Dr. Lucha mentions that his birthday is actually May 19, 1938—about a decade older than we had thought. Both that article and the many others in this week’s Box y Lucha emphasize that Colosetti was a Wolf Rubiniski trainee. Rubinski, a famous 1940s EMLL luchador who went into acting, ended up producing a wrestling show in Argentina in 1962 and discovered Colosetti there. Rubinski later got him started in Mexico.

Club Lucha has a new edition of their podcast.

AIW has Beast Mortos against Matthew Justice. Mortos is totally going to throw Justice off some high thing. AIW is now a YouTube video subscription company.

Coloso Colosetti (1948-2024), KeMonito vs KeMalito, Villano III Jr., AEW/CMLL, lots of AAA TV

CMLL

CMLL (FRI) 11/15/2024 Arena México [CMLL, Estadio DeportesKaiser SportsThe Gladiatores (text)The Gladiatores (video), thecubsfan]
1) Galaxy, Shockercito, Último Dragóncito DQ Angelito, Kaligua, Pequeño Magía CMLL - 15 DE NOVIEMBRE ARENA MÉXICO 2024 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL - GALAXY-ÚLTIMO DRAGONCITO-SHOCKERCITO VS KALIGUA-PEQ. MAGIA-ANGELITO/ARENA MÉXICO/15-11-24 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL | El Pequeño Sky Team son descalificados ante Galaxy, Último Dragoncito y Shockercito (posted by mluchatv) CMLL Ultimo Dragoncito, Shockercito y Galaxy vs Aereo, Kaligua y Pequeño Magia ARENA MEXICO (posted by Estrellas del Ring) Reporte CMLL: Kaligua, Angelito y Pequeño Magia Vs Último Dragoncito, Galaxy y Shockercito (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
7:56. Kaligua unmasked Galaxy for the DQ as the usual minis challenged followed
2) KeMonito DCOR KeMalito CMLL - 15 DE NOVIEMBRE ARENA MÉXICO 2024 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL - MANO A MANO / KEMALITO VS KEMONITO / ARENA MÉXICO/15-11-24 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL | Kemonito y Kemalito empatan en lucha en mano a mano (posted by mluchatv) CMLL Kemalito vs Kemonito ARENA MEXICO (posted by Estrellas del Ring) Reporte CMLL: Kemonito Vs Kemalito (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
7:09. In-ring debut of the new KeMonito after running in last week. Both fought outside the ring follow a KeMonito dive.
3) Persephone, Reyna Isis, Zeuxis b La Catalina, Lluvia, Tessa Blanchard CMLL - 15 DE NOVIEMBRE ARENA MÉXICO 2024 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL - REYNA ISIS -ZEUXIS-PERSEPHONE VS LA CATALINA - LLUVIA - TESSA BLANCHARD/ARENA MÉXICO/15-11-24 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL Tessa Blachard, Lluvia y La Catalina vs Zeuxis, Reina Isis y Persephone ARENA MEXICO (posted by Estrellas del Ring) Reporte CMLL: Tessa Blanchard, Lluvia y La Catalina Vs Persephone, Zeuxis y Reina Isis (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
10:16. Straight falls, Persephone cheating Tessa in the second fall to set up a singles match next week.
4) Flip Gordon b Villano III Jr. [NWA MIDDLE, finalCMLL - 15 DE NOVIEMBRE ARENA MÉXICO 2024 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL | Flip Gordon se corona como Campeón Mundial Histórico de Peso Medio (posted by mluchatv) CMLL Flip Gordon vs Villano III Jr HISTORICO MEDIO ARENA MEXICO (posted by Estrellas del Ring) CMLL-CAMPEONATO MUNDIAL HISTÓRICO DE PESO MEDIO/VILLANO III JR. VS FLIP GORDON/ARENA MÉXICO/15-11-24 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) Lucha de campeonato: Flip Gordon Vs Villano III Jr. (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
16:38. Tournament final for vacant title. Second were Neon and Hijo del Villano III Jr. Former champion Mistico (vacated – moving up weight classes) presented the belt to Gordon, who is the 9th/94th champion.
5) Atlantis, Atlantis Jr., Blue Panther b Bárbaro Cavernario, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero CMLL - 15 DE NOVIEMBRE ARENA MÉXICO 2024 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL | Atlantis Jr., Blue Panther y Atlantis vencen a Último Guerrero, Bárbaro Cavernario y Niebla R (posted by mluchatv) CMLL Atlantis, Blue Panther y Atlantis Jr vs Ultimo Guerrero, Niebla Roja y Barbaro Cavernario ARENA (posted by Estrellas del Ring) CMLL-NIEBLA ROJA-U. GUERRERO-B. CAVERNARIO VS B. PANTHER-ATLANTIS-ATLANTIS JR./ARENA MÉXICO/15-11-24 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL: Atlantis, Atlantis Jr y Blue Panther Vs Último Guerrero, Niebla Roja y Bárbaro Cavernario (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
14:38
6) Místico, Neón, Templario b Averno, Difunto, Zandokan Jr. CMLL - 15 DE NOVIEMBRE ARENA MÉXICO 2024 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL - DIFUNTO - ZANDOKAN JR. - AVERNO VS NEÓN - TEMPLARIO - MÍSTICO / ARENA MÉXICO / 15-11-24 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL | Místico, Templario y Neón vencen a Zandokan Jr., Difunto y Averno (posted by mluchatv) CMLL Mistico, Neon y Templario vs Averno, Difunto y Zandokan Jr ARENA MEXICO (posted by Estrellas del Ring) Místico, Neón y Templario Vs Averno, Zandokan Jr y Difunto (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
16:39.

CMLL got the answer to one big question and had a whole new one by the end of the night.

What to do with Villano III Jr.? The CMLL highlight package gives a slice of the reaction, which came through even stronger watching live. Villano III Jr. was over as if he was one of CMLL’s top stars. The crowd did not react like a random title match, they treated the near falls like a mask was on the line and chanted “Villano” throughout. Arena Mexico gave him a top guy reaction, when he’s not been pushed that level so far. This is not the first time this has happened. It wasn’t as strong in the tag title match with Magnus & Rugido or the Rey del Inframundo, but that reaction was present. It was very present when the Villanos won the Arena Coliseo Tag Team championships. Part of it was probably the Mexico/US bit; part of it is the kind of fan who dislike the Atlantis family rally behind the Villanos. A lot of it is because Villano III Jr. is really good, wrestles a little bit more of a reckless style than the CMLL standard, and always shows his emotions. CMLL has something with Villano III Jr., but the question is if those Villano III Jr. reactions are of support from a fanbase that CMLL is already bringing in or if big Villano matches are pulling new people.

There’s only one real way to find out, and it’s putting him in more meaningful spots. Villano’s reactions for his -rare – Saturday night main event were back to normal levels for a regular trios match. Villano attacked Star Jr. before the match and fouled him to end it, and those two will be wrestling in a 1v1 on the 11/23 Arena Coliseo card. That match is a good test to see how sustained the Villano III reaction is, if people show up for a big match of his, and if CMLL’s decided he’s something more than a foil to give Star Jr. a win.

Flip Gordon’s post-match promo included him saying he wants to defend it against anyone in the world, which came off as a hint of a defense against someone outside the promotion. Could be a 12/13 thing, could be something else. A NJPW US show would fit, though there doesn’t seem to be room on the upcoming one. Flip has delivered whenever CMLL’s given him a big singles match during his year in CMLL. (Among the US people who’ve ended up in CMLL for Reasons, Flip’s output has easily exceeded Tessa’s.) It hasn’t changed his perception among non-CMLL internet fans, but an active Gordon title reign will likely produce a lot of good matches and is probably a good thing for CMLL watches. In the ring, Flip smirked at the negative reaction to him – nothing much else he could do.

CMLL did get an answer on the new KeMonito: it’s going to be fine. The social media reaction to this roll out has been largely negative towards CMLL, and the social media reaction didn’t carry over to reality. Everyone just enjoyed the match. It was built to get KeMonito (II) over, he hit everything he needed to hit, and KeMalito had his best match performance against him. There may have been people booing him, but they were barely audible against the loud cheering and chanting. The Arena Mexico fans accepted him as KeMonito. This is a clear victory. The non-finish makes sense; these two are destined to keep fighting forever. Maybe we’ll get a rematch on Kid’s Day.

(There are still some annoying aspects about the KeMonito presentation – not only does CMLL flash up their legal statement about owning the character before his match, but the announcers also repeat it as the match goes on. CMLL owns most of the characters and names seen in CMLL. There’s no legal disclaim read and said whenever Mistico has a match. The emphasis on pointing out this particular one suggests an out-of-control lawyer insisting on it.)

El Pais has a big profile of QueMoniito. It appears to have been done before the new guy showed up; there’s no reference to that situation. They did ask him about how he’d feel about a new person showing up in the costume. QueMoniito said it would be logical for CMLL to do so, he would support the person behind it, but caution him that the fans will expect a lot of them. He figured he’d feel like he would wish it was him, but knows he’d have to retire and give up the role anyway. That retirement is what he’s hoping to get out of the lawsuit from CMLL: enough money that he doesn’t have to find ways to sell merchandise or get sponsored, that he can instead set up a sustaining business, relax, and retire.

In that article, QueMoniito says he split from Tinieblas because he was bored and needed a change. SuperLuchas’ Ernesto Ocampo explained the real story in a video Friday talking about QueMonitto. The Tinieblas/Alushe relationship fell apart at a show in Tijuana.  It was a well-attended show. Alushe was making some money from wrestling, some but not a lot, and finally got up the nerve to go to the promoter to ask him why they weren’t paying him more if they were drawing so many people. The promoter told Alushe he thought it was a fair amount, but also told Alushe that amount. See, that promoter and the others had been giving the money to Tinibelas to pay for both him and Alushe, and it was only in that conversation when Alushe found out the true price promoters believed they were paying him. Tinieblas had secretly been pocketing 2/3rd to 3/4ths of Alushe’s payday for himself; he’d likely been doing it for years. Alushe/QueMoniito thought highly of Tinieblas, he was the guy who got him into the weird world of wrestling, and he was crushed to find out Tinibelas had been taking advantage of him all along. That led to the split.

Ocampo also mentions KeMonito’s name was never meant to be KeMonito. That was slang Dr. Alfonso Morales came up with that caught on. Ocampo said, before that happened, he went to CMLL to ask what to call him in the magazine, and they said his name was “Gori” as in gorilla. (And maybe Gori Guerrero.) That may explain the more gorilla look in the new outfit.

(CMLL’s dropped the kiss cam for the last month or so. This whole situation explained why. The old Kiss Cam graphic had the old KeMonito on it; it was the only trace of him in CMLL left for the last year and a half. They brought the graphic back on Friday with the new KeMonito. Why they couldn’t use a non-KeMonito kiss cam graphic is left to the gods to determine.)

The rest of that Friday show: the main event was good in typical ways. The minis match didn’t get the time they needed to be great, but they did a lot with what they had up to the mask-pulling finish. Still no progression there. The women’s match didn’t do much for me outside setting up next week’s match, and the semi-main was just alright. Strong turnout for the show.

CMLL (SAT) 11/16/2024 Arena Coliseo [CMLL, thecubsfan]
1) Astro Boy Jr. & Dragón de Fuego b Enfermero Jr. & Grako
13:15.
2) Disturbio, Hunter, Nitro b Eléctrico, Legendario, Robin
3) India Sioux & Princesa Sugehit b Amapola & Metálica
13:44
4) Akuma, Gemelo Diablo I, Gemelo Diablo II b Explosivo, Fugaz, Star Black
13:36
5) Neón b Magnus [lightning]
9:07
6) Bárbaro Cavernario, Terrible, Villano III Jr. b Blue Panther, Star Jr., Volador Jr.
16:05. Villano III snuck in a foul on Star Jr. to set up a singles match next week.

Not a lot here of note beyond Star Jr./Villano. The main event was the best match and there’s not a lot of the rest worth watching. KeMonito started working as a mascot with this show. Notable, he did a dive at the end and Volador was careful not to do one. Volador is protecting his body and choosing his spots more carefully the last few months; there’s probably some knee injury he’s working through.

The Lucka Libre (CMLL) show in Tijuana on Saturday seems like it drew about a half full building. One of the matches on the show was Mistico versus Ultimo Guerrero versus Soberano Jr., notable becuase CMLL hasn’t allowed UG and Soberano to be in the ring in the same time on their shows in years. I believe they were allowed to wrestle here. Ultimo Guerrero won, though it appears he pinned Mistico.

CMLL (SUN) 11/17/2024 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Inquisidor & Sangre Imperial b Astral & Diamond
2) Crixus, Kráneo, Sagrado b Dulce Gardenia, Espíritu Negro, Rey Cometa
3) Princesa Sugehit b Dark Silueta [lightning]
4) Brillante Jr., Fuego, Volcano b Felino, Felino Jr., Rey Bucanero
5) Magia Blanca, Magnus, Rugido b Flip Gordon, Hijo de Octagón, Titán
Straight falls, Blanca pinned Titan after a mask pull.
6) Octagón, Templario, Volador Jr. b Averno, Euforia, Mephisto

Looks like Titan/Magia Blanca on this show, the one that doesn’t stream and the top matches don’t always make TV, in on 11/24 or 12/01.

CMLL has the holiday Puebla show today at 5 pm. They did stream this as a surprise last year. They have made no statement about streaming it this time, but that’s normal when they’re afraid of hurting the ticket sales. I have a basic script that checks the CMLL lineup pages for changes and tells me when they happened. I can tell you that someone logged into the CMLL site, took out Lluvia & Sanely, put in India Sioux & Olympia, and made these changes around 4 AM in the morning. I guess we all have trouble sleeping sometimes.

CMLL (TUE) 11/19/2024 Arena México
1) Astral & Robin vs Astro Boy Jr. & Dragón de Fuego
2) India Sioux, Skadi, Tabata vs Amapola, Metálica, Olympia
3) Capitán Suicida vs Hijo de Stuka Jr. [lightning]
4) Arkalis, Stigma, Xelhua vs Guerrero Maya Jr., Hijo del Villano III, Vegas
5) Flip Gordon, Star Jr., Titán vs Magia Blanca, Magnus, Rugido
6) Atlantis Jr., Dragón Rojo Jr., Máscara Dorada vs Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero, Valiente

Suicida/Kid Stuka is one for the people who watch a lot of CMLL. It should be great. Match 4 is setting up Maya versus someone for 11/26 – maybe Xelhua, could always be Stigma.

CMLL’s Guadalajara broadcast mentioned the holiday schedule. Tuesdays fall on December 24th and December 31st this year and CMLL prefers not to run those days. The shows Guadalajara will instead move to Fridays on those week on December 27th and January 3rd. (No idea what does to the upload schedule.) I expect the Arena Mexico shows will move to Christmas and New Year’s, like usual.

On Saturday, AEW announced CMLL wrestlers would be returning to the promotion in the upcoming weeks. I had the sound down on Collision, misunderstood the graphic, tried to figure out on Twitter, got it wrong a second time, and then just shut up until they explained it. It was not my greatest hour. Here’s the correct info from AEW:

  • Hechicero, Mascara Dorada and Atlantis Jr. will be on the 11/20 Dynamite/Rampage taping in Reading. (There is no Collision this week.)
  • Mistico & Mascara Dorada will be on the 11/27 Chicago, which is believed to be a Dynamite/Rampage/Collision five hour marathon taping.

AEW hasn’t announced any specific matches for these wrestlers yet. Atlantis Jr.’s “personal issues” for missing the Leyenda de Azul might be a cover story for a yet to be announced AEW match on Full Gear or their pre-show; we’ll find out Wednesday.

About a month ago, two Twitter users conspired to create fake a graphic of Mascara Dorada facing Konosuke Takeshita on Dynamite. They just really wanted to see that match. Many people, including some who really should’ve known better, believed that was a real AEW announcement. Sometime later, AEW’s Tony Khan told Dave Meltzer after that he’d be interested in booking that match. This might be that point; that faked match may happen in the next two weeks.

AEW announced Mascara Dorada as Mascara Dorada 2.0, to the confusion of anyone who follows CMLL, but maybe it helps people who don’t understand that he’s still not Metalik. Dorada’s the real news here; he was part of the group of wrestlers whose US work visas got canceled back on 02/28. Most of the group spent the last eight months trying to re-establish their rights to work in the US. Blue Panther was also in that group, and MLW announced him for their 01/11 Dallas show Monday morning. I wasn’t sure if he’d bother, but it might have been worth the effort. If Panther and Dorada are cleared to work, I’d presume the other bigger names from that group – Soberano, Templario and Volador – all have their work visas or will have them shortly. Volador had been used on AEW TV prior. Soberano seemed to be getting some NJPW US work prior, though that was mostly in the since-dropped Rocky Romero/Soberano partnership.

CMLL wrestlers returning to AEW TV will mean the return of people complaining about CMLL people on AEW TV. They should be ignored. Not yelled at, not convinced, just ignored. Many of them have been complaining about CMLL people being on TV too often even when they haven’t been on TV. Some of them just want something to yell about. Some of them have misguided thoughts; AEW is not deciding between Mascara Dorada and Ricky Starks to put on TV. Some are plainly just racists who are using “CMLL” as a stand-in for “Mexican” or some less friendly verbiage. All of them are not worth your time. You can only convince people to be less dumb on social media if they want to learn; these people do not want to learn. People are allowed not to like CMLL (or AAA or any other type of wrestling), they’re allowed to like wrestling in what strange way they want. ,You also benefit little from engaging with them.

There are worthwhile discussions to be had about AEW’s usage of Mexican wrestlers in a post-Lucha Brothers world – I had some thoughts on Saturday. I also had a concern back in September that’s played out (so far) precisely as feared. I don’t think I got any useful feedback about it on Twitter, not that I expected it. Some messages are better sent via Twitter than blog, is all there is to it. Not so much discussions. There’s stuff to dig into like Dralistico seconding LFI on Rampage and vanishing by Collision if you want to have discussions. Twitter and maybe all of social media just isn’t the place to have it; it’s a lot of time wasted talking to people who aren’t listening to anything besides people who tell them what they already believe. I know people have hope Bluesky will be something different; I’m not exactly confident.

Lucha Libre Acapulco had previously said Atlantis Jr. and Hechicero would be appearing on their show on 11/20. They’re off that show now. CMLL is sending Templario and Atlantis as replacements. The social media fans seems happy with Templario and not as happy with Atlantis given his limitations at this point in his career.

AAA

This is a confusing section; there are four TV tapings to discuss in various stages because AAA is a strange creature. I usually do results first and TV second, but I try to put them in the order they were taped to see if it’s easier to follow.

Unimas started the 11/03 Showcenter taping this week. This is the oldest taping, but Unimas is the first to air it. (Space skips around if they have a live show to air.) I may write more about the matches when they start airing on Space next week, but there wasn’t much to any of the three. The one notable angle was Chik Tormenta and Flammer having a pull-apart backstage, which may have been intended to set up something in Saltillo.

AAA aired part 2 of Guerra de Titanes on Space Saturday. (If you’re running a database, my results should be complete and accurate now.)

  • Mascarita Sagrada & Pimpinela Escarlata teamed with locals Payaso Balin and Sakura to defeat Mini Abismo Negro, Zafiro, Eddy Maceyra, and Monaguillo. Bringing in Sagrada to work a prelim match was weird. (The Micro Gemelo Diablos have not been seen since showing up at TripleMania Mexico City; maybe there was something with them planned for this show at one point.) This match was obviously heavily edited. There’s a point where luchadoras Sakura and Zafiro step into the ring, AAA cuts to a generic crowd shot and cuts back to show them both replaced in the ring. They use a replay to cover up another edit; Sakura and Zafiro just materialize in the ring, and Sakura gives Zafiro a German suplex for the win. AAA does not edit shows, especially live ones, unless something seriously goes wrong. Those women must’ve not had a good night.
  • Pierroth Jr. versus Kempo Jr. versus Aereo happened. They explained it was a three-way title match; the winner got the loser’s title, but the third person kept them. Pierroth Jr. beat Kempo Jr., so he kept the KAOZ Heavyweight Championship and won the Norteste Light Heavyweight Championship. Aereo remained the Juarez Metropolitan Champion. The match was every three-way ever, with Kempo playing the tecnico against two rudos. There is something there with Kempo as the local spectacular high flyer (Aereo used to be that guy), but it was also just a random match with two guys who won’t be seen in AAA again for six months. AAA seemed to have rules against allowing non-AAA belts to appear on their TV in the past, and both these guys and those in the opener had them here. They mocked the KAOZ promoter pretty hard on TV, but they’re booking his guy Pierroth in a way that keeps him happy.
    • Aereo has a fake KeMonito named KeMadito. This is one of those moments that reminds you that almost no one who talks about wrestling is watching AAA because it would’ve been a big topic on the weekend of the other KeMonito debuting had anyone cared.
  • Crazy Steve & Havok defeated Brazo de Oro Jr. & Reina Dorada to retain the AAA Mixed Tag Team championship. This was not advertised as a title match going in. Brazo de Oro Jr. replaced the injured Fiscal, but they also did an arm injury angle to sideline Brazo de Oro for the first half of the match. If you want Reina Dorada wrestling on her own and selling, maybe this is for you. Steve & Havok pinned both opponents.
  • Cibernetico, Mecha Wolf, and Vampiro beat Absimo Negro, Psicosis and Taurus in a lucha de obscures match. As the announcers drilled into our heads, this idea of turning the lights off and having the wrestlers work in glow-in-the-dark outfits was an Antonio Pena concept. Not all of Antonio Pena’s concepts were good. Absimo Negro’s gear looked good; Psicosis and Cibernetico both tried. Mecha Wolf and Taurus both had some glow-in-the-dark tape on to help. Vampiro just showed up in his normal gear and didn’t want any part of this. The finish was Vampiro pinning Abismo with a small package while hooking the ropes for whatever reason. Vampiro gave a goodbye speech ending with him being too emotional to go on, then put his leather jacket in a casket to signal his retirement.

The Vampiro retirement didn’t come across as a big deal as previous times, because it was the fifth or sixth time he’s retired on TV in the last year. There was no feeling this was any different than the other ones. They tried to invoke a sense of finality with the casket, but it didn’t come across strongly. It was in some ways a lesser version than some of those other farewells: the roster dind’t come out to celebrate him, just Mecha Wolf hanging around for the match.

Vampiro’s last match should’ve been the Arena Ciudad de Mexico match, which seemed the original plan. That match had a sense of finality. Vampiro’s wrestled twice on TV since this show and Heroes Inmortales, in matches didn’t mean much and weren’t any good. Both of those shows draw well every year and did not need to have a Vampiro retirement boost. Doing a glow-in-the-dark match as Vampiro’s AAA retirement match almost felt like a prank on him, one he decided to blow off by not participating. That Mexico City match was weird and not great, but also very from the mind of Vampiro. Almost everything else he’s done, including this one, felt like stuff forced upon him and he didn’t have much investment in – he cared about the post-match promo and would’ve been just as fine doing that without wrestling.

(AAA also didn’t know what they wanted this to be; this match was advertised on the poster as his last match in Juarez, then on social media as his last match in AAA period, then on TV as his last TV match. Someone may have belatedly realized he’s still booked on non-TV matches. Vampiro is 100% going to wrestle outside of Mexico and everyone inside of wrestling believes Vampiro will eventually wrestle in Mexico again someday.)

The show ended with a quick teaser of Cibernetico as the next mega championship challenger, which would become official in Saltillo. Cibernetico’s addition to the Vampiro match was unpromoted – I’m unsure if AAA wants to make surprises a bigger deal again or if they just didn’t get around to advertising him.

AAA taped TV Sunday night in Saltillo

AAA TV (SUN) 11/17/2024 Lienzo Charro Prof. Enrique Gonzalez, Saltillo, Coahuila [AAA, Lo Mejor de Lucha]
1) King Rap, Pingüino Jr., The Rocker b Buirrito, Fly Boy, Rey Dorado
2) Inferno, Krator Jr., Latino b Bebote Valdes, Mini Hator, Símbolo
3) Mr. Iguana & Niño Hamburguesa b Andrómeda & Belcegor
Tokyo Bad Boys may have gotten involved.
4) Flammer & La Hiedra DCOR Chik Tormenta & Dalys and Julissa & Valentynna Reis
All six people fought outside for the countout.
5) Dinámico, Drago, Laredo Kid b Kento, Nobu San, Takuma
Mr. Iguana helped cost the Tokyo Bad Boys the match
6) Hijo Del Vikingo & Octagón Jr. DQ Alberto el Patrón & El Mesías
Alberto and Mesias were DQ for excessive violence. Latin Lover introduced Cibernetico, said he’d challenge for the mega title on 12/07 and that Hijo del Tirantes would not be allowed to referee that match
7) Dave The Clown, Murder Clown, Panic Clown b Abismo Negro Jr., El Fiscal, Psicosis [AAA TRIOS, cage]
Earlier, Psicosis put Fiscal back on the team in place of Taurus to force team harmony. It failed, Abismo betrayed Psicosis in a cage match for a second time. Psycho Circus won the trios titles and are 18th champions. Vipers fall on their 3rd defense

Takuma and friends seem to have stolen Yeska from Mr. Iguana somewhere during this show. That seems like a setup for a match back in GLEAT, where Mr. Iguana has already been announced. Psicosis seems quite dumb for allowing the man who cost him his mask back on his team and then have him also cost him his trios titles, but maybe it plays differently on TV. (Edit: It probably does play differently, but still weird – the Vipers all betrayed Fiscal and lost the trios titles in the process.)  Likewise, match 6 reads like shoveling some dirt on Vikingo and Octagon, but maybe it’ll look different when we see it. We probably won’t see it until at least 12/07 on Space and 12/14 on Unimas. That finish and Cibernetico being the next challenger makes it feel like AAA is definitely moving on from Vikingo’s challenge for now. They’ve still got a lot of TV to fill between now and the next show that matters, TripleMania Monterrey, so maybe they’ll eventually wander back to it. The women’s count out seems like a tease to a bigger match, but it also may have been AAA just not having a finish to that one.

AAA did live some results on Instagram, and little for Twitter. That makes it a touch more difficult for me, but is seems like the right move for their audience. I can’t be certain if this current wave of people abandoning Twitter will continue – I don’t think it’s totally for real until more official brands move off Twitter – but it’s best to get stronger elsewhere right now.

This show looked maybe 70% full, maybe a little more. It was not the sellout of March but that still seems a positive number.

Monday, AAA announced that 12/07 taping, where the Cibernetico/Alberto match was made official:

AAA TV (SAT) 12/07/2024 Gimnasio Olímpico Juan de la Barrera, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal
1) Adelicious, Mini Vikingo, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Andrómeda, Mini Psycho Clown, Sussy Love
2) Emperador Azteca, Niño Hamburguesa, Tigre Universitario Jr. vs Kento, Nobu San, Takuma
3) Reina Dorada vs FlammerJulissaValentynna Reis
4) El Fiscal & Octagón Jr. vs El Mesías & Pierroth Jr.
5) Laredo Kid vs Matt Riddle [AAA CRUISER]
3rd defense
6) Cibernético vs El Patrón Alberto © [AAA MEGA]
3rd defense

AAA is billing this as the end of the Origens tour. They’re also billing the show the next day as the end of the Origenes tour.

Ciber’s been pretty popular on these Mexico City tapings, so that title match should get a good reaction. Cibernetico stands about the same chance of winning as having a five-star match. The gimmick is Tirantes won’t cheat to help the rudos, but someone else will, and then we’ll find out what the next chapter in this story will be. (There was no mention of the “Dorian/JBL takeover” story on any of the TVs, though Unimas did show some of the Dorian/JBL promo that had aired elsewhere.)

It would be kind of nonsense for Matt Riddle to win the AAA Cruiserweight belt, defend it against Fiscal once, and then lose it to Laredo Kid, but AAA is capable of nonsense. I’m rooting for it. AAA has booked Riddle fairly often but it’s hard to see a way where it’s made a difference; this show will probably do well based on how much people care about that main event. AAA puts Laredo with Riddle to get star ratings, but few people who care about star ratings are bothered by AAA, especially not on their very delayed TV tapings. (This may not air until mid-January.) I appreciate another great Laredo Kid match, even one I have no reason to suspect he’ll win, but I’m unsure what the point of this is all. They’re trying to sell something to people who don’t seem interested.

Some of the other stuff feels like it’s being sold to people besides the conventional audience here. Sure a lot of KAOZ people here for no obvious reason. Mini Psycho Clown is making his first TV appearance in a year for some reason. Actual Psycho Clown again nowhere to be seen.

Coloso Colosetti

Coloso Colosetti (Elio Carlo Colosseti Drazich, 76) passed away Saturday. The cause of death has not been announced, but he’d been in poor health for years.

Colosetti started wrestling in his home country of Argentina and showed up in EMLL in 1969 as the threatening import of the year. He seemed positioned as a foil for top tecnico Ray Mendoza, doing the usual title switch to set up a hair match. Coloso stayed. He was taller than most wrestlers, closer to being a heavyweight, and a good-looking guy – he got over well and fit in well in EMLL. He had five hair matches at Arena Mexico in the 1970s, including the 1975 Aniversario main event. He won 2, lost 3. He went to the UWA, winning and losing hair matches and feuding with Canek. (If EMLL had a heavyweight title open to non-Mexicans, he’d likely have won in more than once.) He’s talked up as a good wrestler, and the magazines loved interviewing him and the attractive women he always seemed to be dating. He appeared in Santo movies, was the unofficial third counter-culture Los Hippes team member, and toured the US and Japan in the late 1970s. Colosetti always comes across as the coolest guy in the room in those magazines. He faded into the background in 90s, and seemed to have hit hard times in the last few years. He seemed to live an extraordinary life in his best moments.

It bummed me out a bit that his passing got far less attention. Colosetti is the cover of this week’s Box y Lucha and hopefully they’ll have something good inside. The general sports media didn’t cover it as much as Scorpio Jr.’s passing, which seems like a product of Coloso living two decades longer. His run is now far in the past, and without the TV footage to look back on it. I wish more of those older magazines were around and accessible so people could see him as a bigger star. There’s a few matches from later in his career that are on YouTube; I watched this one from 1983, where he’s one of the rudos trying to get the visiting Kevin Von Erich over to the Arena Mexico crowd. If you knew nothing but that one of the wrestlers in that match was a WON Hall of Famer, it might take you five or six guesses to identify the correct one. (Pirata Morgan would be the first guess – or maybe it’d go “either Pirata is a hall of fame wrestler or he was completely broken out of wrestling three years later wrestling that way” and somehow neither are true.)

Other News

Ayako Hamada posted a video saying her father Gran Hamada is in very bad health and asking for prayers. She still seemed hopeful.

La Jornada has a profile on Fray Tormenta. He’s living off merchandise sales and donations from people he’s helped raise.

Sanson won the 2024 Mas Luchas Supremo over Bestia 666. That show did not draw well, and the women’s tournament didn’t either, and I wonder if they’ll keep running those tournaments. We don’t know if they’re seeing a surge in subscribers for those shows, and that’d be the biggest factor.

The Lucha Bowl, a flag football tournament, occurs in Mexico City from December 6th to the 8th. They’ll lucha libre alongside the flag football, and they’re working with IWRG. There’s some family history in that connection: the promoter is the daughter of former Arena Naucalpan Rams. Rams was a football-themed rudo, so now she’s putting on a lucha libre-themed football event. I think it’s a safe bet that Rams loved football beyond his wrestling gimmick if his daughter ended up playing flag football.

KeMonito/KeMalito and new NWA Middleweight champ decided tonight, AAA in Saltillo

CMLL

CMLL (FRI) 11/15/2024 Arena México
1) Angelito, Kaligua, Pequeño Magía vs Galaxy, Shockercito, Último Dragóncito
2) KeMonito vs KeMalito
3) La Catalina, Lluvia, Tessa Blanchard vs Persephone, Reyna Isis, Zeuxis
4) Flip Gordon vs Villano III Jr. [NWA MIDDLE, final]
vacant title
5) Atlantis, Atlantis Jr., Blue Panther vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero
6) Místico, Neón, Templario vs Averno, Difunto, Zandokan Jr.

Next week is Leyenda de Azul, so probably not much in the way of angles on this show – maybe Averno cheats Mistico to build to next week. Perhaps a title match from the women, but I wouldn’t expect anything big to be set up from the top matches. That top match is another case of CMLL putting new people in main events with Difunto, Zandokan and (to a lesser extent) Neon. The rudos in the semi-main would’ve easily been in the last match in past years, and CMLL’s instead going through the tougher process of convincing fans these guys are top guys.

CMLL’s booked Flip Gordon as a semi-main/main event guy and Villano III Jr. as a fourth match/semi-main event guy, which really points to Flip Gordon winning. This will also be interesting for the crowd reactions; the Arena Mexico fans love those Villanos. Flip’s talked about being a family man, a new dad, someone who really is trying to make Mexico his new home and he’s still surely going to get booed.

There have only been two (NWA) Historic Middleweight champions from the United States, just about the same as people who’ve held that title from Spain. One American champ was Chris Jericho, who most thinks of as Canadian but was born in the US and has now lived most of his adult life there. The other is Joe Palardy (Jovite Palardis), who won for a couple of months in 1977 and I know just about nothing about. I was looking around for a bio this morning and instead stumbled upon a news report of him injured when a car drove into the Beef ‘O’ Bradys he was eating at in 2019.

CMLL Informa ended with the reveal of matches for December 13th

  • Claudio Castagnoli vs Hechicero
  • PAC vs Volador Jr.
  • La Catalina & Tessa Blanchard vs Red Velvet & Toni Storm

Castagnoli versus Hechicero is the Gran Prix winner versus the Aniversario winner. PAC and Volador had issues during the brief Death Triangle run. The women’s match follows up Storm’s previous appearances. The expectations are going to be high for those top two matches and this show should have a lot of outside interest for them. The press articles all talk about this being a CMLL vs AEW show. CMLL doesn’t state that, but perhaps we shouldn’t expect NJPW or other people on this one. CMLL didn’t say much about the rest of the card; no idea if it’s meant to be six CMLL/AEW matches or just those three.

The other big segment was KeMonito and KeMalito hyping their match on Tuesday. KeMalito seemed about 100% more comfortable. The guy who’s been doing the character for a week felt nervous. CMLL keeps flashing that legal notice stating they came up with KeMonito every time he appears, but they clearly have decided they don’t own the famous costume that QueMoniito is wearing. The new guy has worn two different costumes so far. Informa had an original look in a promo photo behind the man wearing a new look – the mouth sticks out a lot more, and the chest plate is bigger. I think the idea is to try to have him look more like the current QueMoniito outfit, but the mouth just looks off. He looks more like a gorilla now. As for the match itself, it’ll be a pleasant surprise if it’s any good, but the reaction – by tickets sold and noise made – will be the intriguing story tonight. Maybe fans will be accepting of a new KeMonito because of their love of the character, but my bet is KeMalito will be cheered even stronger than usual. The Ticketmaster map looked like a good amount of tickets had been sold already, but they’re in no danger of selling out the place and the Gradas section has not been opened.

The Informa interview seemed to edge away from pushing KeMonito as the previous guy returning; there was a mention of this guy training in CMLL for a year before this debut match. The newspaper previews seem to still pushing it as return. Those are sometimes heavily working off what CMLL’s given them as copy. KeMonito did note this isn’t a one off and he’ll be joining the micros division going forward.

QueMoniito posted a video on Thursday talking about his time in the circus (while also promoting a candy.) He still hasn’t said anything about the new KeMonito. It’s gone long enough with nothing being said that we can begin to assume there must be a settlement or a legal ruling to end the dispute. It does not appear to affect his ability to do business as QueMoniito. The debut of the new KeMonito also seems to have spurred more interest in the recent documentary on Netflix; I’ve seen a few media outlets write about it again.

CMLL (MON) 11/18/2024 Arena Puebla
1) Black Tiger & Millenium vs Hijo del Perverso & Rencor
2) Capitán Suicida & Hijo del Pantera vs Perverso & Prayer
3) Tessa Blanchard vs LluviaLa CatalinaSkadiKiraReyna IsisZeuxisSanelyPersephoneHera [Copa Mujeres Revolucionnarias]
4) Místico, Stigma, Templario vs Gran Guerrero, Stuka Jr., Último Guerrero
5) Averno, Euforia, Mephisto © vs Magnus, Rugido, Volador Jr. [CMLL TRIOS]
first defense

The Depredadores are in a tecnico role in the main event. I’d rather see match 2 than another women’s cibernetico. I’m sure TV will show the women’s cibernetico, and there’s no mention of streaming this special holiday show. (They did end up streaming it last year.)

CMLL (TUE) 11/19/2024 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Astro Oriental, Logan, Último Ángel vs Infierno, Mortis, Ponzoña Jr.
2) Gallo Jr., Obek, Rafaga Jr. vs Rav, Shezmu, Temerario
3) Calavera Jr. I & Calavera Jr. II vs Draego & Persa
4) Atlantis & Blue Panther vs Rey Bucanero & Satánico
5) Kira & La Catalina vs Dark Silueta & Persephone
6) Dulce Gardenia, Esfinge, Star Black vs Barboza, Difunto, Zandokan Jr.

Good for CMLL going through the effort of plugging Explosivo in Fuerza Tapatia to fill out the trio, and they end up teaming with Dulce Gardenia a couple of weeks later.

Arena Coliseo Guadalajara showed off some maintenance and remodeling on Facebook.

Capitan Suicida told the media he really liked his tour of Japan, would love to team with Titan some day, and is aiming for Magia Blanca’s welterweight championship.

A CMLL show in San Luis Potosi this past Wedensday., delayed for a couple of weeks, seemed to draw pooly.

Magia Blanca is listed for a Chinampaluchas show this weekend. He says the listing is a fraud, and he will not be there. Atlantis, Rey Bucanero and Rugido are also listed; Blanca says he has no idea if they’re appearing.

Mascara Dorada, Atlantis, Olympia, and KeMalito will appear an autograph signing for the Teleton charity on 11/23.

MLW announced Kojima against Ultimo Guerrero for the MLW Heavyweight Championship on 12/05. That’s part of their TV taping, so it’ll probably air two weeks later. MLW already announced Kojima will defend that title against Matt Riddle; I don’t think many assumed Ultimo Guerrero was becoming MLW champion anyway.

Noriteru Fukushima, the excitable Japanese ambassador to Mexico seen on CMLL shows the last couple of years, has finished his time in Mexico and is headed back home.

In a local (to me) story, the Chicago Bulls, Blackhawks, and White Sox decided to launch a TV network this fall. It’s been a failure on all counts. They’re belatedly offering a digital offering. Their strange scheme offers 20 USD for one team or 30 for everything on the channel. I saw those numbers, stunned that anyone would pay that much for one channel. A beat later, I recalled I pay 35 USD a month for CMLL. I’ve gotten used to it, maybe you’ve gotten used to it, but it is worth stepping back every so often and reflecting on that being an absolutely insane price point. CMLL’s probably making more money on digital than any previous year, and probably by leaps and bounds. I still think they’re costing themselves money by making the paywall so high that people aren’t even going to bother to sample. That 12/13 show will be widely watched, but mostly on pirated Facebook feeds among people who might’ve paid a less ridiculous price.

(Oh, by the way, if you’re on the $9 lowest tier, the reason you haven’t been getting any Friday shows lately is the last two have been Fan Leyenda only. Those don’t go to the lowest tier. CMLL also doesn’t explain this and really hasn’t put on that guide for how the tier system works for a while now. Good customer service would be sending out a reminder every time that tier doesn’t get a show, and it might convince a couple to the higher tier.)

AAA

AAA TV this weekend

  • Space has part 2 of Guerra de Titanes
  • Unimas maybe has part 1 of the Halloween Showcenter event.
    • This will air an hour early.
  • YouTube has part 1 of Guerra de Titanes

AAA is in Saltillo on Sunday

AAA TV (SUN) 11/17/2024 Lienzo Charro Prof. Enrique Gonzalez, Saltillo, Coahuila
1) ?, ??, ??? vs ????, ?????, ??????
2) Mr. Iguana & Niño Hamburguesa vs Andrómeda & Belcegor
3) Flammer & La Hiedra vs Chik Tormenta & Dalys and Julissa & Valentynna Reis
4) Dinámico, Drago, Laredo Kid vs Kento, Nobu San, Takuma
5) Dave The Clown, Murder Clown, Panic Clown vs Abismo Negro Jr., Psicosis, Taurus [AAA TRIOS]
6) Hijo Del Vikingo & Octagón Jr. vs Alberto el Patrón & El Mesías

No idea what’ll happen with that main event. Vikingo posted IG Story video of him doing his rehab work Friday morning. I’m guessing that means he’s not cleared but who knows. Psycho Circus should be winning the trios titles from the feuding Vipers, but they’ve dragged that out for months and might keep dragging it out. Match 4 is a rematch from Juarez and seemed to be the match there. Match 3 is Toxias and Julissa/Valentynna (new worse spelling) being storyline unprofessional with each other and maybe in real life too. Match should be fun, match 1 is probably locals and will air on TV. My guess is this airs the first entire weekend of December.

The WON says Konnan has been hospitalized for the last 26 days with diverticulitis and related issues. He’s still in the hospital, though he hopes to be released this weekend. He was missing from Guerra de Titanes – he’d normally do an interference spot in that main event or a promo – but no one had publically disclosed why.

Mr. Iguana said he’s going to Japan for two weeks and teased he’s on more shows than just that 12/30 date. It’ll be his first time there.

Vampiro, who is theoretically done in AAA, is wrestling for RGR on 11/24 in what is also billed as a retirement match. They don’t say for where, so maybe he’s just having his last ever Huntington Park match. Vampiro made no mention of his AAA retirement on social media.

Back in September, Keyra and Myzteziz Jr. had a very public custody battle. The two were once a couple, had a son, and have since split. Keyra had brought her son to the hospital, where he was admitted for what she said was a blood transfusion. At some point, the child was released from the hospital but released into Myzteziz’s custody instead. He and his family took custody of the child without telling Keyra and without telling her where he was. Keyra pleaded for help, but the story quickly faded away. Myzteziz disappeared from wrestling for about a month, then returned two weeks ago. Thursday, Myzteziz posted on Instagram, claiming he’s won the legal battle against “the boy’s mother” – he’s been granted custody and an order of protection. He accused Keyra of lying in a way that has now gotten herself in trouble. (Myzteziz does not show the legal notice.) People who know this situation a lot better than have cautioned not to pick a side and I don’t think that changes much with the news. It’s still very messy.

Myzteziz’s AAA career is the least important part of this – they’ve barely used him on TV this year, even before this came up – but this legal situation being resolved for the time being may mean AAA will bring him back to tapings.

Other News

Arena Jalisco usually streams the top few matches from their shows. Mas Lucha has picked up the feed in the past. This past week, they didn’t stream live, and they strangely cut out the main event. Facebook comments provided some hints why that may be the case. Guadalajara lucha libre video channel lucha libre select 11 posted their video of the main event, and it’s not hard to see why. Veneno appears to be in no condition to wrestle, or stand. Some of the others are questionable, but Veneno definitely won the race. (The Beast Mortos is in the match and seems to be a professional in a world of unprofessional. Such can be Mexican indie wresting.)

I’m pretty close to clearing out my backlog of videos to add to the luchadb and happened to skim through the Todo x el Todo Mexico City show Mas Lucha posted a month or so ago. The show is not good, you should not spend time watching it. What stuck out to me is there was a lot more money spent on production, both from a live event perspective (huge TripleMania-like screens) and also in capturing the shows. I wonder if there was some thought these would be TV (or PPV) broadcasts, and that fell through. It would help explain why they ran the big arenas, those that would look better on TV but they had little chance of filling. The whole business part of that promotion is odd.

June 1957 magazine recaps (Box y Lucha 272A-275A)

I’m going to start listing the current champions at the beginning of these months. The championships are not the end all or be all of Mexican wrestling, even at this point in history, but more context helps.

  • NWA Welterweight: Blue Demon
  • NWA Middleweight: Rolando Vera
  • Mexican Lightweight: vacant (tournament underway)
  • Mexican Welterweight: Jalisco Gonzalez
  • Mexican Middleweight: El Santo
  • Mexican Light Heavyweight: Tarzan Lopez
  • Mexican Heavyweight: Medico Asesino

Don’t expect that list to change quickly or often.

Box y Lucha 272A (June 6, 1957)

The Sunday show this week (June 2nd) has a Black Shadow/Karloff Lagarde match rated 7 3/4.

EMLL (TUE) 06/04/1957 Arena Coliseo [Box y Lucha 271A, Box y Lucha 272A, Clinch 242]
1) Chu Chu García b Pancho García [MEX LIGHT, quarterfinal]
straight falls. Garcia is debuting, from Coahuila
2) Mar Allah b Bobby Ramírez [MEX LIGHT, quarterfinal]
Box y Lucha said Allah is a naturalized citizen (and because of that, eligible for this title). Ramirez debuted, from Hidalgo
3) José Cruz b Zepelin Ahumada [MEX LIGHT, quarterfinal]
Ahumda debuted from Veracruz
4) Juan Diaz b El Coyote [MEX LIGHT, quarterfinal]
straight falls.
5) Huroki Sito & Manuel Robles b Carnicero Grimaldo & Gori Casanova [super libre]

All the debuts also suggest that the lightweight championship is a commission thing, getting in people who don’t normally work for EMLL. All of those outsiders get a bye in the tournament and then lose right away, though some stick around for a bit. Both the Zeppelin name and the previous “sumo” backstory is odd for a guy in a lightweight tournament.

“Sheik” Mar Allah’s wrestling career dates back to the earliest days of EMLL. He was born in Lebanon and is a naturalized citizen, which Box y Lucha says makes him eligible to challenge for national champions. That belief will be an issue before the end of the year, though not for Mar Allah.

Box y Lucha 273A (June 13, 1957)

EMLL (FRI) 06/07/1957 Arena Coliseo [Box y Lucha 272A, Box y Lucha 273A, Box y Lucha 3536, Clinch 242]
1) Taro Hito b Guapo Rodríguez
rated 6 ½
2) Antonio Ramírez b Chico Veloz
Rated 6.
3) Tony Barbetta b Murciélago Velazquez
Rated 6.
4) Carnicero Grimaldo TLDRAW Orquídea
20 minutes. Rated 6 ½
5) Ray Mendoza b El Enfermero
Terrific match (though only one fall), rated 7 ½
6) Enrique Llanes b Chico Casasola
Rated 7 ¼
7) Black Shadow & Blue Demon b Espectro & Karloff Lagarde [MEX TAG, semifinal]
Rated 7 ½

At this point, this tournament is still to determine the first commission-recognized national tag team champions.

The 06/09 show has Cavernario Galindo & Jorge Allende go to a main event draw with Huroki & Sugi Sito. Sugi & Galindo knocked each other out.

EMLL (TUE) 06/11/1957 Arena Coliseo [Box y Lucha 272A, Box y Lucha 273A, Clinch 242]
1) José Munoz b Rocky Man
2) Zepelin Ahumada b Chamaco Vega
3) Chuchu García b Mar Allah [MEX LIGHT, semifinal]
4) Juan Diaz b José Cruz [MEX LIGHT, semifinal]
5) Manuel Robles b Canelo Segura

This show was noted to have a good turnout, though sparse details beyond the results.

Referee Rudy Blancarate, brought up in April for a series of poor calls, is officially suspended for a recent poor DQ call.

Ivan el Terrible pled to the commission to reinstate El Gladiador’s license. It didn’t work.

Dr. Castro showed up in Cuernavaca without his gear, and borrowed enough from other wrestlers to still go out and wrestle.

Box y Lucha 274A (June 22, 1957)

The publish date seems to have shifted from Fridays to Saturdays.

EMLL (FRI) 06/14/1957 Arena Coliseo [Box y Lucha 273A, Box y Lucha 3536, Clinch 242, RB, SL 311]
1) Chico Veloz b Pancho García
Rated 6 ¼
2) Gori Casanova b Antonio Ramírez
Rated 6 ¾
3) El Verdugo b Enrique Villa
Rated 7
4) Jalisco González b Canelo Segura
Rated 7
5) Carlos Moreno b Chico Casasola
Rated 6 ¾
6) Sugi Sito DQ Cavernario Galindo
another unfair DQ according to Box y Lucha, this time for sending Sito into a post. Rated 7
7) Black Shadow & Blue Demon b Enrique Llanes & Tarzán López [MEX TAG]
Tecnico/Tecnico final, brothers vs trainer/trainee. Third fall said to go a half hour. Match came down to Llanes and Demon, Demon getting the win. Rated 8.

Blue Demon & Black Shadow are called tag team champions of Mexico in this week’s magazine. Notably, there are post-match photos of the teams congratulating each other but no visible title belts.  Sister magazine Clinch 242 will later recap 1957 and refer to this as “the Arena Coliseo Tag Team Championship” instead. There’s understandable confusion about the history of the Mexican National Tag Team championships from this period forward, and neither magazine has any insight about what changed – was it a commission issue? Was Box y Lucha just calling them by a name that they weren’t meant to be? All I can be sure of at this point is Box y Lucha thought they were national title and they don’t appear to be national titles next time they’re brought up.

On Sunday, Espectro & Lagarde defeated the Sitos in the main event.

EMLL (TUE) 06/18/1957 Arena Coliseo [Box y Lucha 273A, Box y Lucha 274A, Box Y Lucha 868, Clinch 242]
1) Mar Allah b Pery Lopez
2) Humberto Garza TLDRAW Gori Casanova
some controversy around referee Polo Juarez. Both won a fall, Casanova seemed to have the third one won but refeee Polo Juarez called time.
3) Frankenstein b Dr. Castro
4) Enrique Llanes & Rubén Juárez DQ Carnicero Grimaldo & Cavernario Galindo
5) Juan Diaz b Chu Chu García [MEX LIGHT, final]
Juan Diaz is 32 years old upon winning this vacant championship

Juan Diaz started as a boxer and moved to wrestling while in Guadalajara. His name first appears in Arena Nilo shows in Guadalajara in 1945, and he seems to have won the Jalisco Featherweight Championship in 1946. He appeared on the Televicentro program – one of the show’s promoters was the Guadalajara promoter – and moved to EMLL in September 1953, with stints elsewhere. He works in the first two matches on Fridays when he works them at all. Diaz is not long for Mexico City; he’ll relocate to the Torreon circuit by summer and lose this belt there. Again, this lightweight title isn’t one that sticks in EMLL any time soon, and running this tournament for a champion who’s going to take it elsewhere seems appears to be a favor to either the commission or the Torreon promoters.

“Chuchu Garcia” would become El Rebelde by 1959. El Rebelde is Mano Negra’s father and Sanely’s grandfather. I knew this, had it written down, but didn’t have in the database until Julio Cesar Rivera brought up in CMLL commentary recently.

Bobby Bonales will become an agent of “Direccion Federal de Seguridad” in his non-wrestling time; that’s the Mexican CIA. This doesn’t seem to come up again, but Bonales seems away from CMLL until a few matches in early 1958.

Box y Lucha reports on rumors of Rolando Vera leaving EMLL to work independent, which appears to be what happens. He’s not back around until August 1958, and that means the NWA Middleweight championship is out of EMLL with him.

Box y Lucha also pushes that Blue Demon and Karloff Lagarde are setting up a title match in Puebla, though they’re getting a little ahead of themselves – that match is scheduled in July. Those two men are feuding, and that feud is coming to Mexico City.

Box y Lucha 275A (June 29, 1957)

EMLL (FRI) 06/21/1957 Arena Coliseo [Box y Lucha 274A, Box y Lucha 275A , Clinch 242]
1) Zepelin Ahumada b Mar Allah
actually took place after the main event. Rated 6 ¼
2) Jaibo García b José Cruz
Ratead 6 ¾
3) Enrique Villa b Murciélago Velazquez
Rated 6 ½
4) Rubén Juárez b Jalisco González
Rated 6 ¼
5) Lotario b Ivan el Terrible
return of Loatario. Rated 6 ¾.
6) Jorge Allende & Ray Mendoza b Huroki Sito & Sugi Sito
Rated 7
7) Espectro & Karloff Lagarde b Black Shadow & Blue Demon [super libre]
Rated 7 ½.

Two wins this week for the Espectro/Lagarde combination, though this is deemed a big upset. This is the start of the Lagarde/Demon issue; Lagarde is a promising young wrestler at this stage.

Carlos Moreno and Cavernario Galindo defeated Enrique Llanes and Tony Lopez in the Sunday main event. After the tournament, the Tuesday show returned to matches with no great meaning. The combination of Humberto Garza and Ruben Juarez defeated Carnicero Grimaldo and Gori Casanova in the last match on that Tuesday show.

Halcon Negro has signed back with EMLL again and started with shows on Thursday.

Roberto Rangel is named-checked as refereeing in Arena Coliseo. He’d referee here for the next five decades. In trivia notes, Box y Lucha claims that Humberto Garza once wrestled as Tony Smith, and that the luchador listed as “Dr. Castro” is actually Dr. Heriberto Castro.

Box y Lucha 276A (July 6, 1957)

EMLL (FRI) 06/28/1957 Arena Coliseo [Box y Lucha 275A, Box y Lucha 276A]
1) Zepelin Ahumada b El Coyote
may have actually happened after the main event. Ratead 7.
2) Akio Yoshihara b Antonio Ramírez
Ratead 6 ½
3) Gori Casanova TLDRAW Juan Diaz
15 mintue draw. Rated 7.
4) Jalisco González vs Chivo García
Rated 7
5) Rubén Juárez b Jorge Allende
Rated 6 ¾
6) Karloff Lagarde b Blue Demon
Rated 7 ¼
7) Black Shadow b El Espectro
Rated 7 ½

The last two matches follow up from last week’s tag match, and specifically set up title matches for the future. Lagarde gets a previously scheduled title match on June 30th in Arena Aficion (Demon wins by DQ.) The plan is for a title challenge in Mexico City on 07/26, and another title match will be announced for Arena Puebla to take place 07/30.

Those plans all go out the window, though. Blue Demon suffered a serious head injury on 07/01, said to have come while he was going for a rana. Demon was knocked out for three hours and found to have a skull fracture. He’s bedridden. We don’t have a lot of results from the rest of the year, but Demon doesn’t appear in them again until November.

The Sunday main event of Enrique Llanes, Lotario and Tarzan Lopez over Carlos Moreno Cavernario Galindo, and Ray Mendoza gets a rare “8” score.

EMLL (MON) 07/01/1957 Arena Coliseo [Box y Lucha 275A]
1) Pery Lopez b Guapo Rodríguez
2) Lorenzo Soto b Hércules Poblano
3) Antonio Ramírez b Ramsés
4) Canelo Segura b Orquídea
5) Huroki Sito & Manuel Robles b Humberto Garza & Jalisco González
Jalisco Gonzalez replaced Ruben Juarez (hurt in a match on Sunday)

I have this on a Monday, and I’m not sure why.

Murcielago Velaquez is said to be suspended for a week for a foul, which seems odd and harsh.

The Box y Lucha archive has nothing else for July, nothing for August, nothing for September and nothing for October. The next issues I have are in mid-November, so we’ll pick up then.

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