Ovaciones’ articles today are solely on tonight’s Arena Mexico show, and the focus there is on the main event: Black Warrior and Mistico challenging Averno & Mephisto for the CMLL World Tag Team Titles.
Since the build to this match started, the speculation’s been Black Warrior will ultimately turn on his partner and go back to the rudo side. Black Warrior’s tecnico turn in 2001 was part of a built up double turn with Black Tiger and seemed to get over pretty well, but he got lost in the mix soon after and hasn’t be at the same level he was as a rudo, in status and ringwork. Warrior won the CMLL Trios Titles twice, but his reigns were just as forgettable as the others this decade, and the last title loss (Canek, Black Warrior, Rayo de Jalisco Jr. vs Hector Garza, Tarzan Boy, Terrible) was deemed too bad to ever actually air. I know others think of him more kindly, but to me, of late, he’s a negative in trios matches, utterly hopeless in singles, and only worthwhile for his still excellent tope. Hopefully, a rudo turn would revitalize him.
The belief that Black Warrior is going to turn comes from Black Warrior himself. In a early December ’05 Box Y Lucha (#2743), Warrior complained publicly requested he was moved back to the rudo side, feeling he would be a better fit there. (His low position on Arena Mexico cards may have also played a factor.) Warrior actually did turn rudo the following week – but on a 12/10 Toryumon Mexico show at Arena Coliseo. He turned on his partners in one match, and attacked Ultimo Dragon in the next, setting up a feud which would carry into the next day (Sunday)’s normal CMLL Arena Coliseo show, and then nowhere. It was quickly dropped, with Black Warrior acting as rudo-ish tecnico and, at least one occasion, the fans telling him he’s a rudo, but he continued to team with tecnicos as he had before his public complaints.
If Black Warrior still desires to be a rudo (figure he does) and CMLL’s bookers want him to be a rudo (no clue), then tonight’s the logical night for it to happen. Warrior’s been put in higher profile matches over the last month and Mistico’s as sympathetic tecnico to turn as you could come want, so a turn should get over huge. CMLL also has major shows coming up in the next couple of months and, if they’d like to hold off on the big Perros/GdA matches, they need some more rivalries; there’s going to be a place for a big Mistico/Warrior match. (If we’re all wrong here and Warrior doesn’t turn, I’d guess we’re getting final resolution to Averno vs Mistico instead – that’s the quotes they’ve been getting from Mistico.) The turn would be most effective if done in this match, so that’s what I figure will happen.
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1) Kid Relampago, Misterio Negro b Muerte Negra, Saddam Hussien
2) Spider Black, Terry Powder b Chamaco Hernandez, La Sombra [losers advance]
3) Kimbar, Super Sonic b Loco Gonzalez, Mario Mora [losers advance]
4) Chamaco Hernandez, the Shade b Crazy Gonzalez, Mario Dwells [losers advance]
5) Mario Dwells b Crazy Gonzalez [hair]
6) Chavo Santana, Jerrito Estrada b Mini Pathfinder, Nino Suicida
7) Alan, Billy Boy, Decnnis b Gallego, Gran Apache, Mr. Cóndor
8) La Parka Jr., Mascara Sagrada Jr. DQ Alan Stone, Zumbido
AAA (TUE) 02/14 Arena Juba de Reynosa Results [rfc]
1) Mercurio Jr., Poder 7 b Chamaco Ortiz, Rocker Boy
2) Mini Pimpinela Escarlata b Mini Hator
3) Josselyn, Martha Villalobos b La Chacla, Mujer Demente
4) Gato Volador b Corazon de Barrio and Imagen 1 and Nacho Zapata
5) La Parka Jr., Máscara Sagrada b Hator, Zumbido
CMLL (TUE) 02/14 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara Results [KrisZ]
1) Fueza Nazi b Virgo [15]
2) Metal Blanco b Flama
3) Idolo b Antrax
4) Madona, Super Maquina b Exterminado, Oro II
5) Emilio Charles Jr., Mephisto, Terrible b La Máscara, Leon Blanco, Volador Jr.
6) Dr. Wagner Jr., Mistico b Averno, Último Guerrero
AAA (WED) 02/15 Avenida Lauro Villar, Matamoros Results [Mario Loera]
1) Haragan b Gatillo
2) Angel o Demonio, Holocausto b El Portero, Principe Guerrero
3) Cougar Boy, Oriental, Zar Rojo Jr. b El Apostol, Principe Azteca, Principe Guerrero
4) Joselin, Martha Villalobos b La Hechicera, Mujer Demente
5) Corazón de Barrio, Mascara Sagrada II b Coliseo 2000, Sangre Chicana
indy (WED) 02/15 Arena Xalapa Results [KrisZ]
1) Sombra Nazi, Tiburon b Aguila de Plata, Trueno
2) Caballerito, Tzuki, Último Dragoncito b Calaquita, Perro Mocho Jr., Piratita Morgan
3) Batman, Enigma, Impacto, Spiderman, Superman b Caballero Negro Jr., GMC, Lasserman, Perro Mocho, Sombra
4) Damián 666, Eslabon Perdido, Mr. Aguila b el Hijo del Pierroth, Hijo de Cien Caras, Pierroth Jr.
5) Dr. Wagner Jr., LA Park, Mistico b Atlantis, Rey Bucanero, Último Guerrero
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I have to say, no matter how much he has deteriorated, i still love Black Warrior. I’d love it if he turned Rudo and even better would be Blue Panther joining him. I would say Wagner too, but i think that’s just a tad unrealistic nowadays….. maybe if he killed Ke Monito or something…. :)
From 97 to about 2001, Black Warrior was so awesome that i just can’t breing myself to shit on him, like everybody else. He was easily one of the best rudos in CMLL until he started being fucked around.
And even still, i don’t think he’s anywhere near as shitty as everyone makes out nowadays – he’s still pretty good imo. Looking back, it feels like loads of folk seemed to turn on BW after that really poor match with Felino in the LdP finals a few years back…
He’ll be awesome as a rudo again – if CMLL let him!
The thing that hurts Black Warrior is his lack of athleticism at this point. He can’t get up for his spinning heel kicks and just generally looks out of sync with everyone else. A rudo turn is really the best thing for him. He doesn’t really play a good tecncio apart from his entrance and that could easily be seen as something a rudo would do.
Blue Panther is pretty insignificant at this point as a tecnico. I’d rather watch them than Black Warrior but he just doesn’t seem important. The rudo side on CMLL is pretty well stocked as it is with the PdM and GdA groups but a Black Warrior on PdM to replace Halloween wouldn’t be the worst idea…or would it? Or should he join GdA?
Muhahahahha!
I’d love to see a Wagner/Warrior/Panther reunion match vs Los Perros. Panther is smart, he doesn’t do that much ariel work anymore. He does mostly matwork and is good doing it.
Warrior would be better in Guerreros than Los Perros. A Olympico/Tarzan/Warrior group would be cool. They could win the trios titles. If Warrior turns rudo tonight, does the mean he’s going to unmask in the near future?
The most telling thing about how awful Black Warrior has been miscast as a tecnico is that cubs even forgot after he turned in 2001, he turned rudo again in 2003 before turning tecnico once more soon after.
I think it’d be cool if Warrior turned on Mistico tonight and formed some new heel group with Rey Bucanero and maybe Terrible if he gets dumped from the Perros Del Mal. You can have a renegade group of heels who are mad they got shit on from the people they used to team with. Warrior(the tecnicos), Bucanero(the Guerreros) and Terrible(Perros Del Mal).
Rob