IWL (SUN) 08/14/2011 Auditorio Municipal de Tetela de Ocampo [SL428]
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5) Máscara Sagrada, Super Crazy, Super Muñeco DQ ATM, Pirata Morgan, Scorpio Jr.
ATM, a masked fellow in a super hero space man outfit, was the surprise luchador on the rudo side. Rudos were DQed when Fantasma de la Opera ran in and Super Muneco when the tecnicos were about to win.
6) Fantasma de la Ópera L Sepulturero I and Zumbido and Peligro and Fishman Jr. andKonami and Kung Fu Jr. and Daga and Zumbi and Tony Rivera [cage, hair]
Cerebro Negro (just his hair) and Pesdailla were replaced by Konami and Sepulturero. Tony Rivera took Fantasma de la Opera’s hair when Super Muneco threw a beer in Fantasma’s face.
Also from SuperLuchas: Canelo Casas took Mascara Negra’s mask. Mascara Negra is Ignacio Martinez, 32 years old.
Lucha POP (SAT) 08/27/2011 Arena Lopez Mateos [Black Terry Jr. (flickr), MT (4,6), MT (all others)]
1) Ángel de la Noche b Destello
2) Shitara & Terremoto Negro b Dashuri & Tribal and Ashley & Black Mamba
Dashuri replaced Lily Fighter. Teremoto Negro replaced.
3) Angelico b Gran Apache
Angelico won with a bit of a distraction from Trauma II.
4) Vanely b Chik Tormenta, Yuki Star [#1 Contenders, POP FEMENIL]
Vanely got the win, then Chik Tormenta attacked both Yuki Star and Vanely until Black Mamba made the save.
5) Zumbi b Mr. Porto
Zumbi passed Ultimo Gladiador’s first challenge, though he put his feet on the ropes to do it. Rocky Santana objected on behalf of his fellow AULL member, which sets up a Santana/Potro vs Zumbi/Tribal tag match.
6) La Vaquerita b Keira, Lolita [POP FEMENIL]
Lolita was eliminated first by the other two. Vaquerita took a chair shot while going for a dive. Lolita and Keira teased a fight, but ended up forming a partnership to beat up Vaquerita. If only they had thought of that before the match! Chik Tormenta sorta made the save, sorta attacked Vaquerita too. None of these people are getting the next title shot, but maybe there’s a tag match here.
7) Trauma I & Trauma II b Black Terry & Negro Navarro
Trauma II beat Navarro for the win. Money was thrown in the match. Angelico came out to challenge for a Angelico/Navarro vs Traumas match, and there was a Navarro/Apaches family challenge here as well.
8) Extreme Tiger b Fenix (AAA), Atomic Boy, Samurai del Sol
Instead of a tag match, this was a four way. Fenix & Atomic Boy teamed up, but got beat at the same time, and Tiger beat Samurai to win it.
Black Terry Jr. has already posted Angelico vs Gran Apache in two parts and Black Terry/Negro Navarro vs Los Traumas. I may need to figure out how to send $10 to Mexico.
Next LuchaPOP show is 10/08 in same building.
CMLL (SUN) 08/28/2011 Arena Coliseo [CMLL, La Catedral]
1) Höruz & Trueno b Artillero & Zayco
Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Demus 3:16, Eléctrico, Mascarita Dorada DQ Astral, Pequeño Violencia, Pequeño Warrior [Relevos Increíbles]
Demus did not get along with his partners, but also did not get along with his opponents. Team Warrior took 2/3, the last when Demus fouled Warrior. Warrior & Demus continued to fight after teh match, the others having to break them up. Electrico was hurt on a dive and stretchered out with a ligament strain. CMLL.com already says he will be out a few weeks.
3) Fuego, Rey Cometa, Sagrado b Hijo del Signo, Hooligan, Loco Max
tecnicos took 1/3, the last after a triple dive.
4) Black Warrior, Super Porky, Valiente DQ Euforia, Vangelis, Yoshihashi
Tecnicos took 1, rudos 2, rudos had the third but lost it due to excessive violence on Valeinte. Might have fallen apart from the intended; Black Warrior was done earlier in the third fall due to knee injury.
5) Blue Panther, Rush, Toscano b Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
Rush replaced La Mascara. Rudos took 1/3. With his usual rival not around, Averno got away with a foul on Panther instead for the win.
Tanahashi, starting tomorrow, watched the last half of the show from the seats. That is great: someone in NJPW now knows Yoshihashi is still here.
Other News
IWRG stripped CIMA of their Welterweight Championship. The Dragon Gate wrestler had won it last June from Dr. Cerbero, who soon after talked about heading to Japan in October to get a rematch. That never happened, and whatever relationship existed between the two companies seems to have vanished.
If the whole situation was never mentioned, it’d be no different than many other big IWRG ideas that seemed to being talked about one day to not existing the next (let’s go with “Gringo Loco”, the Super X feud, all the previous new Oficials, and the create a wrestler contest as the first four I can think of), but actually stripping the title seems like there may be something more to it. IWRG haven’t stripped Gringo Loco’s title, and he doesn’t appear to be ever coming back. IWRG haven’t stripped Negro Casas or Amapola’s title despite also working for a company that’s not working with IWRG any more. (They haven’t stripped Mistico’s title either, but that one may yet work out!) All those titles being out might be part of the reason – only the new-ish lightweight title is on a regular IWRG wrestler – and so they may have needed another title for an idea that doesn’t involve someone being a Junior. And maybe there’s no real reason they picked CIMA instead of pulling back all of the missing ones. Feels like there is one, though.
By the way, the latest on Sin Cara is Hunico is the guy for the moment, but they (Vince) are not sold enough on him to just cut Mistico loose. Hunico needing three retakes this week may play a part in it, but there’s a concern Hunico may not be good enough to keep the character going. No one’s said this, but I’d guess Tuesday is going to decide this a great bit. Hunico is going to have a match with Alberto del Rio on a live show that WWE is very focused on. If he comes thru, that may be enough to give him the role full time. If he has another night like last Tuesday, that may doom him and put Mistico (or even someone else!) back in the role. I’d be surprised if WWE cut Mistico loose before the Mexico shows – just to try if they can prevent any backlash – but I think we’ll know which way they’re going really soon.
Also, this whole bit where people felt like Mistico had to be humbled and, by complete and total coincidence, he happened to fail a drug test and get suspended in a humbling manner, is quite some story. Amazing how things just happen to work out.
Pimpi says he’s a trailblazer for the exoticos and personally helped Polvo, Nygma and Pasion Cristal at points in their career, so they have no right to be jealous and attack him. Pencil this in for Heroes Inmortales.
Rob reviews 80s and early 90s luchas.
LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.
CMLL in Japan
2) Leon b Lady Afrodita (11:48)
4) Seuxis b Sendai Sachiko [CMLL-REINA IJ WOMEN, sf] (9:24)
5) Mima Shimoda, La Comandante (O), Dama de Hierro b Yumiko Hotta, Aki Kanbayashi, Saya (X) (15:22)
Tournament match is here, and the main event is up in two parts.
The tournament is down to the expected Seuxis/Ray final, to take place on 09/10. When it sounded like Seuxis was just coming back for one show, I thought Ray would surely win, leading to her coming to Mexico for a rematch. (Not sure CMLL needs another ruda with a title belt too.) Now I’m unsure. I’m still kind of leaning towards Ray, because the Amapola/AYUMI match is a week later, the Japanese girls really need to win at least one of those, and Amapola is never losing that title.
If you ever thought I pay too much attention to this, check out the CMLL Noticias page. There’s not been much other news, I guess.
Links
- DJ Spectro looks back at El Hijo del Santo vs Kato Kung Lee
- Cerebro Negro wants revenge on Zumbi.
- Konnan is promoting a night club event?
- SuperLuchas #428 has Zorro Platedado, Dos Caras, and Doink
Lineups
IWRG (THU) 09/01/2011 Arena Naucalpan
1) Astro de Plata Jr. & Astro Rey Jr. vs Alan Extreme & Polifacético
2) Bugambilia del Norte, Diva Salvaje, Golden Magic vs Carta Brava, Comando Negro, Picudo Jr.
3) Angelico, Dinamic Black, Hijo del Pantera, Pantera vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Avisman, Dr. Cerebro, El Hijo del Diablo
4) Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Ray Mendoza Jr., Trauma I vs El Hijo del Medico Asesino, Hijo de LA Park, Máscara Año 2000 Jr.
Random trios main event of Juniors. This would be this Medico Asesino’s debut here.
Sunday’s show is the previously announced Dos Caras anniversary show.
AULL (SAT) 09/03/2011 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Karma, Tigre de Bronce, Tigre de Plata vs Dante, Picudo Jr., Radamantis
2) Ashley, Lily Fighter, Sexy Star vs Felina Metálica, Keira, Ludark Shaitan
3) Ronny el Italiano vs Ronny Ventura
4) Angelico, México Bronco, Yakuza vs Epitafio, Herejia, Scorpio Jr.
5) Chucho el Roto vs Iron Love [AULL LH]
6) Daga, Hysteria, Juventud Guerrera vs Super Crazy, Trauma I, Trauma II
Main event including a sometimes-CMLL guy vs a sometimes-AAA guys is interesting, especially when they both used to be Histiera in AAA. Unless maybe that’s Histeria III with Daga and Juvi, which would be interesting for the existence of Histeria III.
I would assume that means Chucho el Roto beat Terry 2000 tonight to win the title tonight.
CMLL (SUN) 09/04/2011 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) ? vs ??
2) ? & ??? vs ?? & ????
3) Hombre Bala Jr. & Super Halcon Jr. vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
4) Dragon Lee, Gallo, Sagrado vs Shigeo Okumura, Vangelis, Yoshihashi
5) Ángel de Oro, Brazo de Plata, Valiente vs Histeria, Olímpico, Psicosis
Gallo going for revenge. Valiente in a main event!
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This is just my guess (not based on any “insider” info), I thing Vince will smarten up and use Mistico this Tuesday. If not then Vince is really stupid.
Mistico has proven himself to be much beter than Hunico, and Mistico has an ample amount of experience working with Alberto Del Rio while they were in CMLL. When two wrestlers know each other they are more likely to have a stellar match.
And I don’t see why they are making such a big deal of Mistico failing his frist drug test. A first offence does not warrent a dismisal according to WWE policy. Heck, Randy Orton was allowed to work through his suspension without pay and his presence was really not that important dispite him being pushed as a top guy.
Well according to reports Mistico is still acting like a prima dona backstage. Look I know he was huge in Mexico and all but come on.
I do think Hunico could have a good match with Del Rio but Mistico’s would probably be better.
@Wirehead: Come on what? When Mistico left Mexico and was considered not the draw he used to be he was still a better draw than anyone in the WWE not named John Cena. Explain to me why he should act like he’s a nobody when he shakes hands with Randy Orton or Christian?
@Wirehead: I would really question these “reports” that he’s a proma dona backstage. According to the “reports” Chris Jericho was injuring the hell out of everybody when he first entered the WWF and the “reports” also said that everybody there wanted him gone. Turned out that was all a lie, as I’m sure this is also.
I’m not saying he should act like a nobody but he’s not in Mexico anymore. He hasn’t proven himself a draw in the US yet. I will say he was getting over however even with the botches, and his mask still sells.
Bottom line is if the reports of his backstage attitude are true he’s not doing himself any favors if he still wants to have a good US career.
It is a bit ironic that Mistico’s WWE future could be partially determined by a match between del Rio and Hunico, two guys who reportedly aren’t his biggest fans. If you can be motivated into having a great match by the chance to bury someone you don’t like, then these two could put on a match of the year.
Of course its WWE, so we’ll likely get a 5 minute match that doesn’t help either man and makes del Rio look like a weak champ.
WWE has actually been making Del Rio look strong as champ in the last few weeks though with long matches and clean wins.
Next WWE tag team masked characters should be called SPEC-ulation and HESI-tation and have as their manager NBS (no business sense).
I want Místico back!
@Alan: They wont do a 5 minute match for something like this, especially when they’ve been hyping it in advance.
@Wirehead: None of the WWE guys are proven draws in the US let alone anywhere else but I assure you when they come to Mexico in October the entire roster will be acting like superstars. Why? Because that’s the company directive and you can’t come off like a star if you don’t act like one. So why should Mistico be punished for what the company asks it’s wrestlers to do? Why can he only act like a star in Mexico but friggin Miz can act like a star wherever he wants? The double standard the WWE preaches and you follow is ridiculous.
OK I don’t want to start a debate/argument on this but you’re insane if you think no one in WWE draws. True enough they aren’t doing nearly as well today as they were in their boom periods but as you pointed out earlier Mistico lost some of his drawing power as well. Besides the WWE brand is usually the selling point, not individual wrestlers.
I think WWE should just stick to getting the same bland, cookie-cutter, wrestlers like Ted DiBiase Jr.
I agree with Rob and Alfredo in principal, but I don’t think it would kill Mistico to play the game backstage either. Triple H probably should have helped him out more in terms of letting him know what was actually necessary in that regard.
Have there been any reports on his actual actions backstage or just the general “prima dona” stuff? It is a little hard to have an actual opinion on how much of this is on him and how much of it is on others stirring up problems for him without knowing the actual details.
@Wirehead: I’ll agree that WWE has some guys who are a draw. Curretnly the only guys who draw are Undertaker, Rey Mysterio Jr., Bret Hart (when he’s advertized in advacne), and even Sin Cara. If you give Sin Cara more time to establish himself he will be huge. But it has to be the origianal Mistico, because Hunico is not nealy as talented.
@Wirehead: You don’t want to debate it b/c you have no leg to stand on. On the current active roster (ie No Bret, Taker, HBK) the only draw is Cena. Rey appeals to kids but TV ratings and house show #’s do not spike with him on top. Same for Orton and nobody else should even be considered. So unless your opinion of a draw is something that doesn’t take into account actual numbers, you have no leg to stand on here.
@Alan: It’s all perceived cockiness. Remember Mistico doesn’t speak English so he can’t walk around making snide comments or getting in verbal disagreements. Anyone who has a problem with his attitude has one just based on how they perceive him from afar.
Well really there usually is only one or two main draws in any wrestling company at a time. But as I said before it’s mostly the WWE brand that draws and it’s been that way since late 1999.
Just curious, were there any legit draws other than Mistico during his boom period?
So have we heard the last of those Averno to WWE rumors?
I was reading the HBK book recently, and its kind of amazing how little seems to have changed in the WWE locker room over the last 25 years when it comes to what is expected of newcomers.
I wonder if Mistico’s communication issues are part of the problem since the ability to go up to people and introduce yourself is an important part of the making people feel like you are paying your respects. Again, I would think this would be something that Triple H could have helped a lot with by telling him what was expected and having someone help him out early on.
If anything this whole situation proves that HHH doesn’t have near the power that most seem to think he has in WWE right now. He just knows how to pick out good talent, and at least this Sin Cara think hasn’t reached the catostrophic screw up of the Kharma signing yet.
Not to derail the conversation but the CIMA/IWRG thing seems pretty self explanatory to me. Cerebro said he was going to tour Dragon Gate where he would presumably bring the title back and nothing ever happened. I think it was just a case of IWRG doing something in good faith and it didn’t really work out for them in the end.
@Wirehead: What about el Hijo del Perro Aguayo?
@Wirehead: During Mistico’s boom period in CMLL, Dr. Wagner was a beast himself. Arena Mexico went thermonuclear the night those two had the 1-on-1 match back in ’07…
“I may need to figure out how to send $10 to Mexico.” How about with Xoom.com?