Atlantis Jr./Angel de Oro, AAA Torreon canceled, no CMLL Guadalajara stream

CMLL

CMLL (MON) 08/26/2024 Arena Puebla
1) Blue Shark, Centella Roja, El Hijo De Centella Roja b Dreyko, El Perverso, Rey Apocalipsis
2) Persephone & Zeuxis b Lluvia & Tessa Blanchard
Rudas used the ropes to win, setting up a rematch.
3) Bárbaro Cavernario, Terrible, Zandokan Jr. b Akuma, Gemelo Diablo I, Gemelo Diablo II
4) Averno b Yota [lightning]
Averno submitted Yota!
5) Atlantis Jr., Máscara Dorada, Templario DQ Magnus, Rugido, Volador Jr.
Volador unmasked Atlantis Jr., setting up a singles match next week.
6) Esfinge L Euforia, Valiente
worked as an elimination escape match. Euforia beat Valiente so he escaped the match, then Valiente beat Esfinge.

So much for my theory that Yota couldn’t lose! Looks like Volador Jr./Atlantis Jr. on 09/02, then a women’s tag title match on 09/09.

CMLL (TUE) 08/27/2024 Arena México [CMLL, Grada, thecubsfan]
1) Full Metal, Pequeño Polvora, Pequeño Violencia b Angelito, Kaligua, Pequeño Magía
10:54
2) Capitán Suicida, El Audaz, Valiente Jr. b Apocalipsis, Cholo, Disturbio
14:06
3) Futuro, Hombre Bala Jr., Max Star b Crixus, Okumura, Pólvora
14:46
4) Fugaz b Vegas
12:05
5) Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr., Zandokan Jr. b Flip Gordon, Star Jr., Titán
12:10
6) Ángel de Oro b Atlantis Jr.
17:44. Atlantis had Angel de Oro up in the Atlantida, but Niebla Roja to distract and Angel de Oro got the win. Atlantis Jr. made various challenges post match, Angel de Oro unmasked him.

The main event was Friday night effort on Tuesday show. I didn’t understand why that was happening until the (ultra-rare) involvement from someone not in the match. All of that only happens if CMLL is setting up something and has some urgency to get it done; like there’s announcement coming tonight on Informa. My wild guess is that the older Atlantis will get his long-requested wish: a father-and-son challenge for the tag titles, and it’ll happen at Aniversario. It also could be a Ring of Honor TV defense happening somewhere; Angel de Oro seems to be the designated challenger for all these foreign titles. It has to be something because that scenario never happens in CMLL without an idea in mind. The match itself is worth checking out too.

Vegas/Fugaz was technically good but neither has much crowd connection. The Viajeros are fully throwing themselves in this concept. Semi-main was alright.

CMLL (TUE) 08/27/2024 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Logan, Thunder Boy, Yaky Boy b Mortis, Ponzoña Jr., Ráfaga
Rafaga replaced Funebre
2) Gallo Jr., Markara, Rafaga Jr. b Calavera Jr. I, Calavera Jr. II, Prince Drago
3) Dr. Karonte I & Dr. Karonte II b Demonio Maya & Principe Daniel
4) Brillante Jr., Neón, Xelhua b Arlequín, Barboza, El Coyote
5) Adira, Kira, Sanely, Tessa Blanchard b Dark Silueta, Hera, Olympia, Persephone
6) Gran Guerrero © DQ Yota [CMLL HEAVY]
Yota got caught fouling Gran Guerrero for the DQ.
7) Máscara Dorada, Místico, Templario b Furia Roja, Stuka Jr., Último Guerrero

This was a rare Tuesday Guadalajara show I wanted to watch live because of the title match. It didn’t work out that way. This show wasn’t streamed with absolutely no explanation. I have no idea why, and I have no idea if it will turn up later. It definitely was recorded. The Arena Coliseo Guadalajara Facebook page posted video clips. Still, CMLL’s own social media did not, so it might have been something as simple as a streaming issue from the venue. No one knows because CMLL couldn’t be bothered to address anyone who asked the obvious question. A “Hey, we’re not going to be able to stream tonight” post is free (to CMLL, to AAA, to Mas Lucha, to everyone), but that’s impossible for the people involved. The most challenging thing to do in Lucha Libre is not to beat El Santo in a mask match; it’s to get a Mexican wrestling promotion to do basic customer service tasks.

(If it was a streaming issue, it also should be a simple task to record the show and upload it later. CMLL has not uploaded the show. I don’t want to call this a rip-off of people who are subscribing to the CMLL YouTube subscription channel because that Guadalajara show is free most of the time, but it’s a clear indication of why people are hesitant to trust CMLL with their money. In my heart of hearts, I don’t believe CMLL has a real plan of what they will do if they have a failure streaming on 09/13 because they can’t handle problems on lower pressure days like Tuesday. This is just the gamble you’re taking with your 35 USD a month. CMLL will pay no consequences for this behavior because the product is really good, it’ll just be something people will hold again them in lesser times down the road.)

Last I checked, CMLL Guadalajara also airs on Quiero TV, which streams on Dailymotion. I believe it airs on Friday nights at 11 p.m. local (Mountain Time), but they don’t have a programming grid on their website. I stopped paying attention to the broadcast years ago, because the full show was airing on Facebook (and later YouTube), and the video quality of the TV stream was somehow less. It did seem they were airing the full show, so maybe they still are.

CMLL could not explain what happened here, but they could repost the teaser for an upcoming announcement. Maybe the barrier is that they couldn’t just state the issue in emoji form, and they were stumped at what to do next. I assume that the announcement is coming from Informa tonight. The guests announced for that show are:

Yota (being in Mexico)
Averno, Zandokan Jr. (match on Saturday)
Star Black, Akuma, Difunto (Copa Independencia)

That’s light for that show, so I would expect more to be announced. Julio Cesar Rivera will likely announce the 09/07 Copa Independencia block, that emoji announcement, and maybe more for Aniversario.

Next Monday’s Puebla show:

CMLL (MON) 09/02/2024 Arena Puebla
1) Amnesia & Blue Shark vs Espíritu Maligno & Rencor
2) Arkalis, Rey Samuray, Xelhua vs Grako, Multy, Vegas
3) Lluvia & Tessa Blanchard vs Persephone & Zeuxis
4) Atlantis, Flip Gordon, Star Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Terrible, Zandokan Jr.
5) Volador Jr. vs Atlantis Jr.
6) Hechicero vs Esfinge vs Euforia vs Valiente

The main event is last week’s main event plus one more person. It was a clean finish last week, so it didn’t really need a repeat, but here it is anyway.

Claudio Castagnoli is on the cover of Box y Lucha 3618.

AAA

The 09/07 AAA Torreon TV taping is canceled. Local promoter RCD Media Entertainment had initially hoped to sell 5,000 tickets at the Auditorio Municipal. They had instead sold badly and officially pulled the plug on Monday. Whenever something like this happens, you can reliably scroll back through AAA’s social media feed and figure out when they knew the show was doomed and just stopped including it among their automatically posted social media content. It is always clear AAA had an ample forewarning of the negative announcement. In this case, AAA had last mentioned the Torreon about a week ago, so they probably knew it wouldn’t work out around TripleMania.

(AAA themselves has not acknowledged the show as being canceled; AAA is run like a carny company, so their standard practice is to pretend like the show next existed and rely on fans finding out from the same local promoter. It’s a small-time, short-term thinking attitude that’s symbolic of AAA.)

It’s not a great sign for AAA to struggle for tickets following their biggest show of the year, and an angle that was surely intended to get people excited. And it surely won’t be the only show that will get canceled soon; tickets aren’t moving for the insanely ambitious Spain tour in November, and that local promoter will eventually decide they’d rather lose a little money by canceling the show rather than lose a lot by actually running them. Still, this is one taping in Mexico, and it would be a poor idea to make more of it than an isolated occasion. Dunk on AAA too hard now and risk looking foolish in about five weeks if they fill up the big building in Guadalajara again (as part of a festival, where tickets are pretty much free with park admission.) An Xalapa farewell to Vampiro on 08/23 was reportedly a sell-out, so it’s not like everything AAA touches has suddenly gone bad.

(Speaking of AAA angles, Latin Lover is now spending a small chunk of his interviews with wrestling guests on a storyline of Latin trying to recruit outsiders to come into AAA to help him against Dorian/Konnan/Alberto. Latin is probably just trying to keep AAA’s very fake story feeling real, but if you see people wondering if DMT Azul is suddenly coming back to AAA, that’s what that is about. One of the problems with AAA’s TV taping schedule – an issue far before this year – is that it can be weeks or months before the big stuff that happens on TripleMania gets followed up on. If this was a hot angle, there’s nothing to keep the fire burning for weeks. Latin here has better wrestling sense than most people trying to find a way to keep it going through his podcast.)

AAA’s more immediate problem is that they have no TV, and no TV tapings have been announced. On Space, they will milk one more weekend out of TripleMania and then have the leftovers from Verano de Escandalo. They need fresh TV for the weekend of 09/14, which is when the Torreon show would’ve started airing. AAA hastily turned a non-TV Showcenter card into a TV taping last August, and they could do that again with this Saturday’s Showcenter card. Nothing has been announced yet. It’s not useful for AAA’s TV to have weeks focused on people who won’t be around again for months, but I don’t know that AAA cares about useful TV. (They’re still rolling out the ad with the old start time for Unimas.)

The full lineup for the first Lucha Border show in Tijuana:

AAA , BORDER (FRI) 09/27/2024 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) Angelux & Rey Furia vs Anton Carrillo & Psycodelia
2) Anubis & La Parkita vs Gallo Extreme & La Parkita Negra
3) Keyra & La Hiedra vs Estrellita & Faby Apache and Julissa & Valentina Reis and Kitsune & Sexy Star
4) Jessy Queen, Mr. Iguana, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Alan Stone, Tony Casanova, Zumbido
5) Octagón Jr. vs Abismo Negro Jr., El Fiscal, Destiny
6) Cibernético & Psycho Clown vs DMT Azul & El Mesías

This is two weeks prior from the EMW show, which now has removed even the hints of AAA from their logo. EMW doesn’t have a lineup for their 09/14 show, but their teaser poster has a lot of people who’ve worked AAA in the past or work currently. They say they’re working with KAOS and Robles, and maybe that’s where the foreigners are coming in. If you look at those two lineups, the one that looks more like a Konnan-aligned show is the EMW one, not the AAA one. I don’t know what that means, if that means anything. It’s all very weird.

IWRG

IWRG (SUN) 09/29/2024 Arena Naucalpan
1) Águila Oriental vs Fauno
2) Sky Man & Willy Banderas vs Hysterious & Príncipe Centauro
3) Noisy Boy & Spider Fly vs Andrómeda & Éxtasis
4) Aquiles, Hijo de Canis Lupus, Hijo De Silver King, Veneno vs Gran Pandemónium, Hijo de Pandemónium, Pandemónium, Pandemónium Jr.
5) Hell Boy vs Vangellys

Hard not to see that main event and wonder “did CMLL start its turnaround the moment we no longer had to watch Vangellys matches in Arena Mexico?” I don’t want to say yes, I don’t want to say no, I’ll leave that up to you. Match 3 is alternate universe Big Lucha.

Other Notes

08/31 RIOT

I think that’s the full card.

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