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CMLL (MON) 10/23/2023 Arena Puebla [El Sol de Puebla, Porra Fresa]
1) Enigmática & Lady Metal b Astoreth & Diablita Roja
2) Black Tiger, Rey Samuray, Siki Osama b Asturiano, Millenium, Rey Apocalipsis Facebook video (posted by )
3) Disturbio b Halcón Suriano Jr. [lightning]
4) Amapola, Hera, Olympia, Reyna Isis, Skadi b Johnny Robbie, Makoto, Mei Suruga, Sumie Sakai, Tessa Blanchard [ciberneticoEl Debut de Tessa Blanchard en el CMLL (posted by ) Facebook video (posted by )
Amapla replaced Sanely (injury.) Elimination order: Olympia (by Robbie), Makoto (Isis), Hera (Sakai), Robbie (Skadi), Sakai (Amapola), Skadi (Tessa), Mei (Isis), Isis (Tessa), Tessa (Amapola after Isis disrupted a Tessa pin.)
5) Euforia, Niebla Roja, Stigma, Stuka Jr. b Esfinge, Hechicero, Star Jr., Terrible [Relevos Increíbles]
Stuka Jr. replaced Soberano Jr. (injury) on Monday
6) Bárbaro Cavernario © b Ángel de Oro [CMLL LH]
3rd defense

The video we have is just of the women’s matches, so no telling how good that main event went.

Heraldo de Puebla has an interview with Lady Metal. She found out she was replacing La Magnifica that morning and cried; she wanted to debut in Arena Puebla but didn’t know she ever would. She figured CMLL was going to eventually give her and the other women training in Puebla a chance and thought maybe she’d be used as a fill in, but it wasn’t real to her until she actually got the match. She’s been wrestling mostly as a tecnica and she’s comfortable doing it, but would rather be a ruda. Lady Metal is a very quiet person without the mask, has few friends, and feels like she changes a lot when wearing the mask.

La Magnifica hasn’t wrestled since missing that show. CMLL hasn’t said anything more about her.

CMLL (TUE) 10/24/2023 Arena México [CMLL, Estrellas del RingKasier Sports]
1) Mije b Periquito SacaryasMicro Sagrado FUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO MARTES 24 DE OCTUBRE DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Started out as a trios, Micros Gemelos were removed on Monday, Chamuel wasn’t there on Tuesday, so this ended up as the first ever Micros three way match. Sagrado beat Sacaryas, Mije beat Sagrado
2) Olympia & Tiffany b La Guerrera & La Vaquerita FUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO MARTES 24 DE OCTUBRE DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Amapola b Metálica [lightningFUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO MARTES 24 DE OCTUBRE DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Pierrothito b Último DragóncitoShockercitoAngelitoPequeño OlímpicoMercurioKaliguaPequeño PolvoraPequeño MagíaMinosFantasyFull MetalAceroGalaxyAéreoPequeño Violencia [ciberneticoFUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO MARTES 24 DE OCTUBRE DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Dia Mundial de Las Personas con Talla Baja cibernetico. Order of elimination: Aereo (by Minos), Peq. Polvora (Full Metal), Acero (Kaligua), Fantasy (Peq. Magia), Full Metal (Mercurio), Minos (Galaxy), Kailgua (Peq. Olimpico), Peq. Magia (Angelito), Peq. Violencia (Ultimo Dragoncito), Galaxy (Shockercito), Peq. Olimpico (Angelito), Angelito (Mercurio), Shockercito (Peq. Pierroth), Mercurio (Ultimo Dragoncito), Ultimo Dragoncito (Pierrothito)
5) Blue Panther & Dark Panther DRAW El Hijo de Octagón & Octagón FUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO MARTES 24 DE OCTUBRE DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Panther Sr. & Octagon went to a double pin

The cibernetico was good, the Panthers tried to make the best of the main event, and not much is worth watching here.

CMLL (TUE) 10/24/2023 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara]
1) Carlo Roggi, Destello, Destructor b Calavera Jr. I, Calavera Jr. II, Hijo del Calavera  el Rey de Plata y Oro, Místico, Mascara Dorada, Atlantis Jr, Arlequín, Averno y Blue Panther. (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
2) Adira, Centinela, Katara, Magia Azul b Dulce Kitty, La Pantera, Sexy Sol, Universys  (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
3) Gallo Jr. & Rafaga Jr. b Brillante Jr. & Halcón Suriano Jr.  el Rey de Plata y Oro, Místico, Mascara Dorada, Atlantis Jr, Arlequín, Averno y Blue Panther. (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
4) El Gallero b Star Black [super libre el Rey de Plata y Oro, Místico, Mascara Dorada, Atlantis Jr, Arlequín, Averno y Blue Panther. (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
5) Dulce Gardenia & La Fashion b Bestia Negra & Ráfaga  el Rey de Plata y Oro, Místico, Mascara Dorada, Atlantis Jr, Arlequín, Averno y Blue Panther. (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
6) Andrómeda, Dark Silueta, La Maligna, Persephone, Reyna Isis, Valkiria b Johnny Robbie, Makoto, Mei Suruga, Stephanie Vaquer, Sumie Sakai, Tessa Blanchard  el Rey de Plata y Oro, Místico, Mascara Dorada, Atlantis Jr, Arlequín, Averno y Blue Panther. (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
Dark Silueta beat Tessa to win the cibernetico
7) Atlantis Jr., Máscara Dorada, Místico b Arlequín, Averno, Blue Panther Jr.  el Rey de Plata y Oro, Místico, Mascara Dorada, Atlantis Jr, Arlequín, Averno y Blue Panther. (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
Arelquin replaced Soberano Jr.

Not a smooth night in many of the matches – Brillante Jr. didn’t look good at all. Crowd seemed up, which might be a Mistico thing. The Mexican women have won the two lead up ciberneticos, which suggests an opposite outcome for Friday.

CMLL (SAT) 10/28/2023 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala & Leono vs Enfermero Jr. & Grako
2) La Guerrera & Tiffany vs La Maligna & Olympia
3) Arkalis, Rey Samuray, Xelhua vs Difunto, El Coyote, Pólvora
4) Esfinge, Fugaz, Star Black vs Hijo del Villano III, Villano III Jr., Zandokan Jr.
5) Dark Silueta & Reyna Isis vs Amapola & Tessa Blanchard
6) Máscara Dorada, Star Jr., Volador Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Hechicero, Terrible

The main event sounds fun.

CMLL (MON) 10/30/2023 Arena Puebla
1) Mayahuel & Shitara vs Astoreth & Diablita Roja
2) Hella, La Maligna, La Vaquerita vs Enigmática, La Pantera (Jalisco), Lady Amazona
3) Adira (Jalisco), Lady Metal, Persephone vs Centinela (Jalisco), Hera, Olympia
4) Amapola, Andrómeda, La Metálica vs Makoto, Mei Suruga, Tessa Blanchard
5) Dark Silueta, La Jarochita, Reyna Isis vs La Catalina, Stephanie Vaquer, Zeuxis [Relevos Increíbles]

CMLL did go with the all women’s show for Arena Puebla. We don’t have full records, but it seems safe to assume this is the first CMLL all women’s show in the history of the building.

Lluvia seems missing from what should be a Las Infernales trios main event; maybe she’s not going to make it back from NJPW Las Vegas in time? (Maybe she’s hanging around, since she’s not on the next couple of shows.) Sanely is out of action and Marcela still isn’t ready to return; I wonder how many of the Jalisco women were planned for this show.

CMLL (TUE) 10/31/2023 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Luna, Rida, Xenna vs Atenea, Estrella Maldad, Yemaya
2) Diabilita Roja, Estrellita Mágica, Lady Metal vs Gema Andrade, Miss Guerrera, Misteriosa
Puebla vs Laguna
3) Adira, Dulce Kitty, Náutica vs La Pantera, Nexy, Universys
4) Centinela, Magia Azul, Sexy Sol vs Alondra, Andrómeda, Lady Shadow
GDL vs Laguna
5) Hera, Olympia, Reyna Isis vs La Maligna, Quimera, Valkiria
6) Dark Silueta, La Jarochita, Makoto, Mei Suruga vs La Catalina, Persephone, Tessa Blanchard, Zeuxis

This is also an all women’s show. CMLL is using “Liga Femenil de Naciones” (LFN) as the branding for these shows. The tickets are more expensive than usual; this card could’ve used a big singles or title match to make that work.

Match 4 works out to have Andromeda against Centienla, which is not the same person (now.)

Today’s CMLL Informa has the Gran Prix participants, Mistico, Volador, Templario, and Mascara Dorada talking about their trips, and Pierrothito talking about winning yesterday.  There probably won’t be any major lineup announcements coming – there are almost no lineups left to announce for the next ten days. There should be an update on Soberano and there will be a lot of interest in what is said about the AEW match.

NJPW officially announced the 2024 FantasticaMania tour on Wednesday morning.

  • 02/12 Osaka
  • 02/13 Osaka
  • 02/14 Kagawa
  • 02/16 Aichi
  • 02/16 Chiba
  • 02/18 Korakuen Hall
  • 02/19 Korakuen Hall

The shift to February seems permanent, but everything else seems about normal. Seven shows is one more than last year, one less than the 2020 tour. They’ve never run Osaka two nights prior, though it’ll be two different venues. Maybe we’ll get some bigger matches on night two. They’re skipping Kyoto (the stained glassed window venue), and returning to Aichi for the first time since 2018.

After Titan & BUSHI won their Super Junior Tag League opener, they dropped the next two matches. At 1-2, they’re a long shot to advance.

I was on Alan4L’s PW Torch VIP podcast (subscription needed) to talk about the last few months of CMLL and AEW.

AAA

AAA will have EspectroFest at Luchatitlan on 11/03. Abismo Negro, Parka Negra, Myzeziz and Lady Shani will in the usual crew at the show. I wonder if AAA has pivoted with this project and they’re going to run shows with AAA names will be a regular bit.

QT Marshall defends the AAA Latin American championship against Fuego del Sol on 11/04 in Florida’s CCW.

IWRG

The normal Thursday card:

IWRG (WED) 10/25/2023 Arena Naucalpan
1) Águila Oriental & Ajolotl vs Red Power & Rey Aztaroth
2) Caballero de Plata, Dr. Cerebro Jr., Tornado vs Centurion, Gannicus, Rey Halcón
3) Último Legendario vs Cerebro Negro
4) Puma de Oro © vs Relámpago [IWRG IC MIDDLE]
fourth defense
5) Pig Decapitador, Pig Destroyer, Pig Destructor, Pig Pool vs Gran Pandemónium, Hijo de Canis Lupus, Hijo de Pandemónium, Pandemónium Jr.

Relampago has been feuding with Tonalli but is getting a title match with Puma de Oro first. I guess why not.

IWRG also had a press conference to announce the Castillo del Terror lineup

IWRG (THU) 11/02/2023 Arena Naucalpan
***Castillo del Terror, 2023***
1) ? vs ??
2) Keyra vs Mary CaporalLady MaravillaDiosa QuetzalLolita
3) Cerebro Negro & Cerebro Negro Jr. © vs León Dorado & Mr. Leo [IWRG IC TAG]
fourth defense
4) Hell Boy © vs ToxinAramisNoisy BoyBobby Lee Jr.Hijo de Canis Lupus [IWRG MEXICO]
fourth defense
5) Diva Salvaje, Estrella Divina, Jessy Ventura, Mamba vs Gizelle, Hijo De Bobby Lee, Hijo del Fishman, Rey Espectro
6) Galeno del Mal © vs Ivan RokovDMT AzulHijo del Pirata Morgan [IWRG IC HEAVY]
2nd defense
7) Sádika vs BengaleeHijo de PandemóniumPandemónium Jr.Gran PandemóniumSataniaRelámpagoSpider FlyPig DestroyerPig DecapitadorPig PoolPig DestructorÁguila RojaSagitariusAmazonikaTonalli [cage, mask]

The theme here is “more”, with more people in the cage match than ever before and lots of people in the undercard. More doesn’t always equal better. This is a Mas Lucha premium show.

Big Lucha

Big Lucha World returns on Friday

Big Lucha World (FRI) 10/27/2023 Fuego del Barrio, Gustavo A. Madero, Distrito Federal
1) Big Taotao vs Ryu Orochi
2) Radioactivo vs Atómico Jr.
3) El Potro de Oro & Tirano vs Action Jackson & Black Andrómeda

This is a bar show, so who even knows how the stream will go. It’s a free show to promote the upcoming NASCAR Mexico show, and Big Lucha will have a show at the race track as well. (That one doens’t appear to be taped.)

The next normal show:

Big Lucha (SAT) 11/18/2023 Arena Big Lucha, Iztapalapa, Distrito Federal
1) Zenky vs Atómico Jr.Auzter
2) Mr. Win & Tirano vs Black Skayde & M2R
3) Viajero vs Brujo
4) Elipse, Iku, Orbita vs Cometa Maya, Morfosis, Radioactivo
5) Action Jackson vs Rey HorusJack Evans
6) El Potro de Oro © vs Electroshock [Big Lucha World]
2nd defense
7) Bendito, Black Andrómeda, Emperador Azteca vs Dark Cuervo, Dark Ozz, Dark Scoria

Dark Family are in as promised. Electroshock challenging is new (and not exactly welcome.) I wasn’t exactly sure if Rey Horus would be back here after Golden Guns fell apart, this is his first appearance since. Viajero and Brujo keep wrestling until they have their mask match.

Other News

The Wolf King, who previously announced a show for Arena Azteca Budokan next weekend, is instead shutting down. The Wolf King mostly ran shows in Neza with scores of people booked. (They’re the ones who ran the show with five cage matches, and people not announced for those matches losing their hair or mask.) There are a few promotions running the same way, overloading their cards with fifty or more wrestlers. Either they’re paying the wrestlers next to nothing, or they’re spending an immense amount of money on unnecessary talent. Groups like AVE and Lucha Libre Boom at least draw very well; the Wolf King never seemed to do that. All of these shows with so many people booked sound awful to me – I want fewer people in matches that mean more – but someone must be buying tickets.

Daga, in an interview with Lucha Libre Ahora, mentioned that he hasn’t been under contract to AAA since 2017. That was when he left to start La Rebelion. He’s since returned and was Latin American champion up until the pandemic and got a world title match on TripleMania. The context is Daga a free agent, and is willing and happy to face CMLL wrestlers if given the chance. His big focus is on continuing to do well in NOAH.

Vanguardia’s 11/18 show has El Mago & Solar I versus Aeroboy & Super Astro as the main event. It’s Mago’s anniversary show, he should do whatever main event he wants, but I would’ve like seeing Mago vs Aeroboy as a straight up singles match much more.

Thunder Rosa, still in Mexico (or maybe this was from a few days ago?), talks about her struggles in wrestling.

An interview with Xalapa’s Dragork, a Tirantes trainee.