CMLL Aniversario & Heroes Inmoratles full lineups set, Big Lucha/ROH tomorrow

CMLL

CMLL (MON) 09/13/2021 Arena Puebla [CMLL]
1) Fénix So & Rey Samuray b Cholo & Inquisidor
2) Amapola & Lluvia b Dark Silueta & Stephanie Vaquer
Amapola replaced Marcela. Her team took 1/3.
3) Stigma b Okumura [lightning]
4) Felino Jr., Pólvora, Templario b Audaz, Espíritu Negro, Rey Cometa
Rudos took 2/3, the last when Felino fouled Cometa and Templario finished him off. Audaz replaced Titan.
5) Atlantis Jr. b Último Guerrero
Atlantis Jr. took 2/3. UG used the ropes to beat Atlantis in the second, Atlantis did the same to UG in the third.

CMLL actually posted live results from Puebla. Not sure what happened that promoted it; maybe they wanted to make sure we knew Ultimo Guerrero lost. Titan continues to be advertised and isn’t appearing.

Atlantis Jr. hasn’t lost a singles match since starting in CMLL. He hasn’t had a lot of them:

2019-01-21 Atlantis Jr. beat Okumura (FantasticaMania)
2019-07-05 Atlantis Jr. draw (Countout of the Ring) Hijo del Villano III
2019-10-25 Atlantis Jr. draw (Time Limit) Templario
2021-09-13 Atlantis Jr. beat Ultimo Guerrero

CMLL (TUE) 09/14/2021 Arena México [CMLL, Kaiser Sports, Mas Lucha]
1) Apocalipsis & Cholo b Bengala & Leono
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Pegasso, Stigma b Disturbio, Enfermero Jr., Inquisidor
3) Dark Silueta, La Comandante, Tiffany b La Guerrera, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit
Rudas took 1/3. Silueta was told she (and Reyna Isis) won the fan poll for a tag title shot after this match.
4) Luciferno, Mephisto, Rey Bucanero b Blue Panther Jr., Dark Panther, Dulce Gardenia
Rudos took 2/3.
5) Gran Guerrero, Terrible, Último Guerrero b Atlantis, Fugaz, Valiente
Rudos took 2/3.

Finding out about a match on another show appears to be the biggest news on this show.

CMLL (TUE) 09/14/2021 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara (live), Fuego en el Ring, Mas Lucha]
1) Estrella De Jalisco I, Estrella De Jalisco II, Obelisk b Conde, Persa, Ponzoña Jr.
2) Ángel Rebelde (Querétaro) & Optimus (Querétaro) b Leo & Príncipe
3) Akuma, Espanto Jr., Rugido b Bestia Negra, Cris Skin, Demonio Maya
Cris Skin replaced Difunto
4) Gemelo Diablo I, Gemelo Diablo II, Pantera Blanca Jr. b Crixus, Halcón Negro Jr. (Queretaro), Trono (Queretaro)
moved up to the semifinal
5) Espíritu Negro & Rey Cometa b Gallo & Joker
listed as a tag title match but doesn’t appear to one; they didn’t bring the belts and started fighting before the bell, maybe to disguise it. Espiritu pulled Gallo’s mask to set up a Cometa pinfall.

Maybe they can come back with that tag title match when the champions didn’t have another high profile match announced.

CMLL officially closed the polls for the Aniversario show Friday night. The final card, in increasing order of votes:

CMLL (FRI) 09/24/2021 Arena México
CMLL 88th Aniversario
1) Templario vs Dragón Rojo Jr. [MEX MIDDLE]
vacant title, last held by Octagon
2) Titán & Volador Jr. © vs Gemelo Diablo I & Gemelo Diablo II [CMLL TAG]
Originally a Misico/Caristico defense, vacant after Mistico II left CMLL.
3) Hechicero vs Último Guerrero © [CMLL HEAVY]
Originally for MEX HEAVY, 11th defense.
4) Espíritu Negro & Rey Cometa © vs Akuma & Espanto Jr. [MEX TAG]
5) La Jarochita & Lluvia © vs Dark Silueta & Reyna Isis [MEX WOMEN TAG]

The women’s tag match was the only one in doubt; Dalys & Stephanie Vaquer ended up about 200 votes short. It ended up in first because was it was so tight; it was getting twice as many votes as any other title for the last week.

Everyone following these polls understands the rules as the title that gets the most votes goes on last, but CMLL hasn’t confirmed the women’s tag match will get the main event spot just yet. It would be the first women’s match to headline a major CMLL show in the promotion’s history; they’ve scarcely main evented normal shows, as pointed out by CMLL making a big deal about doing that just a few weeks ago. I don’t feel completely sure this is happening until CMLL confirms it on Informa and the rest of the card order might change; Ultimo Guerrero working third and Volador working second is not their desired outcome. If CMLL goes “we meant the person who got the most votes, not the title” instead, then it’s Ultimo Guerrero/Hechicero last, preceded by the World Tag match, the Women’s Tag, the Mex Tag and the Mex Middleweight to open. That fits CMLL’s sensibilities much closer, though there’d be a revolt if the women don’t headline at this point.

Cavernario noted he and Felino haven’t wrestled for about a month and spins it as they’ve got a lot of pent-up hatred to get out. He also promises to shut the mouth of everyone who’s been calling this a bad rivalry on their cell phones.

Volador, talking about Los Depredadores, says they’re a group of wrestlers who’ve been training together for years. That seems to confirm the other members are his other students.

CMLL Informa today has the reveal of the other Depredadores, as well as people on the next two big shows: Felino, Hechicero, Templario, Gemelos Diablos and Ola Negra.

Heroes Inmortales

AAA released the full card for Heroes Inmortales

AAA TV (SAT) 10/09/2021 Coliseo La Concordia, Orizaba, Veracruz
1) Faby Apache, Mr. Iguana, Niño Hamburguesa vs Hijo del Tirantes, Parka Negra, Súper Fly
2) Aramis, Myzteziz Jr., Octagón Jr. vs La Hiedra, Rey Escorpión, Taurus
3) Chessman, Lady Shani, Pagano vs Abismo Negro Jr., Chik Tormenta, Látigo
4) Fénix & Pentagón Jr. © vs Hijo Del Vikingo & Laredo Kid [AAA TAG]
5) Pimpinela Escarlata vs Mamba, Keyra, Sexy Star II, Aerostar, Argenis, Dave The Clown, Villano III Jr., Arez [Copa Antonio Pena]
6) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
7) DMT Azul, Puma King, Sam Adonis vs Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown [cage]

The main event cage match does not have hair or masks on the line, it’s just a cage match for the sake of being a cage match. La Empresa probably shouldn’t lose yet, though maybe Psycho Clown ought to end the show winning if he’s going to get the Kenny Omega match in December.
Semi-main is the first AAA TV NGD/Poder del Norte match, where NGD probably should get the win.
The Copa Antonio Pena field is low on star power, to the point of making it confusing why it’s even on the card. Maybe this is a lifetime achievement award for Pimpinela, maybe AAA is hoping to add a big name. All of the other midcard TV feuds (Myzteziz/Argenis, Octagon Jr./Villano III, Aerostar/Drago vs Super Fly/Parka Negra) are broken up half the people being in this match. It comes off as people booked for this show before AAA had any idea what they were doing for this show
Lucha Brothers versus Laredo Kid & Hijo del Vikingo being the best match of the show in the middle of the card looks weird but I guess the Lucha Brothers just did that and it went fine. (The local poster has it as the semi-main.) There’s no reason to do this tag title match again so soon unless they’re doing a title change.
It makes no sense for Chessman & Pagano to continue to team outside of fighting La Empresa and yet they continue the team. AAA says there are things yet to air on TV that will explain this.
Rey Escorpion goes from headlining to the second match and maybe losing his title. It doesn’t quite make sense for La Hiedra to be in Los Mercenarios and Las Toxicas at the same time but it’s AAA so she can keep the title if they prefer.
Hijo del Tirantes shows up on TV wrestling soon and will wrestle Faby Apache here as well. I don’t expect it’s going anywhere. Mr. Iguana winning Copa TripleMania was a nice moment and now he’s back in the opener.

No Marvel Lucha Libre match. They seem to go stretches without appearing at all.

The show is listed as starting at 6:30 pm. AAA didn’t say anything about it streaming, but all their major shows have streamed on Space this year and this is likely the same. I’ll stream it on Twtich if that’s the case. It’ll probably be a long one with seven matches.

The Crash runs the day before Heroes Inmortales. There’s no direct way from Tijuana to Orizaba, so it looks like it’s going to be a very long travel day for anyone working both. Pagano has been announced for The Crash show.

There hasn’t been many AAA spot shows in recent months, but they seem to be starting up again. A spot show in San Luis Potosi next Wednesday includes rare appearances by Karis la Momia Jr. and Mini Gronda, There’s a full show (with a title match) in Merida the day after Orizaba.

Other Notes

Mexican Independence Day is tomorrow, which means it’s a much busier Thursday than normal. IWRG has its usual Thursday show but with a lot bigger names than usual. There are shows in Arena Lopez Mateos, Coliseo Coacalco, and CAR the Crash tonight, while places like Arena Neza are holding off until the weekend. I think there might be shows on both Thursday and Sunday most years.

The show with the most international interest Thursday is the Big Lucha show at Bandido’s Gym, due to the ROH wrestlers on the show. Bandido defends the ROH title against Matt Taven, Skayde faces Delirious, and the Briscoes wrestler Flamita & Emperador Azteca among other matches. I’m still not sure if this is streaming live but it will definitely turn up eventually. It’s a big test for the Big Lucha concept; if they can draw well with ROH wrestlers in, then maybe that’ll become a regular thing. Those Ring of Honor guys probably would’ve been a big help to the CMLL Homenaje a Dos Leyendas show on Friday – Matt Taven was even on the original lineup for that show back in March 2020 – but CMLL’s broken off relationships with both Bandido and ROH.

Gravity says his dream is to make it to PWG. That’s a rare dream for a Mexican wrestler to state publically, though it makes sense when he says seeing his brother wrestle there re-ignited his passion for wrestling. Emperador Azteca says he hopes to make it to ROH or NJPW.

Laredo Kid faces John Skyler in a rematch Thursday night on Impact. The next set of Impact tapings start on Friday, which will probably take them up to their next major show.

Villano III Jr. was added to Mas Lucha’s Torneo Supremo 10/09. They should have a full field by next Monday.

IWRG says their annual Castillo del Terror cage match show will be on 10/31. That’s probably a Mas Lucha Premium show. Anyone who subs in time to get their Mas Lucha Supremo tournament would get both in the one-month subscription.

Warrior Wrestling announced Rey Horus vs Aramis vs Gringo Loco for the Warrior Warrior Lucha Libre championship on their 10/16 show.

Cleveland’s AIW announced Psycho Clown for their 11/26 show. Psycho Clown was scheduled to work there in 2020 before the pandemic canceled plans.

The deal with the Mr. Niebla-related wrestlers appears to be his widow renting out his old nicknames to make some extra money, and other family members not being happy about it. Mr. Niebla’s widow and Fantasma spoke about it Tuesday. CMLL owns “Mr. Niebla” but doesn’t own the nicknames, so the family registered those years ago. The wrestlers intended to use those names were not introduced.

Daga, on Facebook, said people for years have asked him why he hasn’t gone to CMLL and he has talked to CMLL about coming in the past. Daga declared that today, he’d only go to CMLL to face Mistico, because Daga watched him wrestle when just starting to wrestle. I presume this means Daga is scared of getting defeated by Hechicero again (and also this seems like a random Facebook bit, not a set up to him coming in.)

70s/80s start Black Man is hospitalized and intubated in Guadalajara, according to social media posts. He’s said to have pneumonia; it’s unclear if it’s COVID-related.

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