CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-08-25 

Drone lived

Recapped: 08/25/2017

Matches:

Robin & Star Jr. beat Akuma & Espanto Jr.
(11:06 [4:17, 3:44, 3:05], 1/3, ok)

Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado beat Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Pegasso
(17:20 [7:29, 3:56, 5:55], 2/3, ok)

La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely beat Amapola, La Comandante, Zeuxis
(8:29 [3:07, 5:22], DQ 1/2, good)

Soberano Jr. beat Cavernario in a lightning match
(9:13, powerbomb, good)

Dragón Lee, Mistico, Niebla Roja beat Gran Guerrero, Shocker, Terrible
(11:04 [2:22, 2:05, 6:37], 2/3 DQ, ok)

Juice Robinson, Matt Taven, Michael Elgin beat Diamante Azul, Último Guerrero, Volador Jr. in a relevos increíbles match
(13:10 [3:53, 2:33, 6:44], 1/3, good)

What happened:

Cavernario tornillo

The foreigners are now wrestling completely as rudos, with Juice being an over the top heel. Johnny Idol came down the aisle in the third fall, distracting Tirantes from a Matt Taven foul on Ultimo Guerrero. The foreigners beat up Guerrero post match, taunted the fans, and swore they would win the Gran Prix next week.

Gran Guerrero fouled and unmasked Niebla Roja to end the semifinal, then shoved Edgar down too. That felt like the only time they got a reaction.

Robin’s highlight of 2017

Tirantes prematurely counted the three count in the lightning match. Cavernario obviously kicked out of the powerbomb, which the announcers pointed out on the replay. Both Cavernario and Soberano argued the finish and went to their planned finish (a Fire Driver) but Tirantes refused to count.

Sanely replaced Silueta in a women’s match. Zeuxis pulled of Sanely’s mask on purpose in the first fall. The rudas ripped that up, but Sugehit quickly had a backup mask handed to her – so Zeuxis took that one right away and ripped it up too. Sugehit left, to the back, and got a third mask. Sugehit returned and went right after Zeuxis and her mask. The two brawled far into the crowd, and Sugehit ultimately won by unmasking Zeuxis on a cradle.

Thoughts:

Mistico & Dragon Lee dives

The main event flowed better than last week, with both teams showing more familiarity with each other and with their opponents. It really wasn’t much about the action, but the cartoonish evil performance of the rudos. I don’t want to say they weren’t taking it seriously, but Elgin, Taven and Robinson were clearly having a lot of fun playing broad uncomplicated evil foreigners. It was almost like something you’d see on a kid’s show version of wrestling – or maybe Peste Negra at their ‘best’, when they’re so charismatic rudos that the crowd ends up rooting for them. There’s no danger of the crowd rooting for the International team here, and they still built up the importance of next week’s Gran Prix well. I’d hope that one is going to be a little more serious, but just as fun.

The semifinal was fine, bordering on good. Dragon Lee worked hard and pulled out some new stuff. Shocker is moving a little bit better and looks like he lost some weight. He’s still not good, but it’s progress I had pretty much given up on. The Gran Guerrero/Niebla Roja feud was shockingly not over, even compared to normal – there was no reactions until a brief one for the reaction. Both guys want it to be good but they don’t have any ideas on how to make themselves stick out and feel important. This match would be in trouble on a b-show. Maybe, in a weird way, they’re helped out by being on the Anniversary show because people will still get into it because of the importance of that show.

Soberano stage tornillo

Soberano & Cavernario was an exciting match, though one where it only seemed to scratch the surface what they could do. They were hitting their head on the ten minute ceiling with their planned finish, and the proximity to being a draw is probably the reason why Tirantes counted a three count early. There’s no explanation for why Tirantes slow counted a pin earlier. A championship match between these two could be superb. Cavernario tornillo felt like came out from nowhere, a much less contrived set up than Soberano’s (obviously still) beautiful stage dive tornillo. Soberano had a great run late in the match, but it was really set up by Cavernario keeping him down for an extended portion of time instead of going back and forth.

Zeuxis & Sugehit was an unexpected fun brawl, with the unexpected action in the crowd. They seemed out of control and heated, exactly how you want any mask mask to fill. No one else was out of this world, but the work but other four were solid for this type of match, with the dives coming off well. They’ve made Zeuxis & Sugheit feel like a big deal and they’ve still got weeks to go.

all those empty seats work out after all

The semimain was a little bit disappointing, there wasn’t a lot of life to it for a while. The triple dive spot work people up, but the dives were actually not so great. It was the regular reminder that Sagrado is quite good and should be doing something more, but maybe he shouldn’t be trying to murder Drone with the Buca Storm.

The opener was a very normal prelim match, none of the excitement of the last few matches. Still think Robin has gotten better but would really need him into something bigger to tell. His dive here was super great and that’s enough to carry him into better trios.

Taven dive is actually caught!

TripleMania a day away; Juice/Taven/Elgin in Arena Mexico, LU record rating

Tonight’s the calm before the storm. TripleMania is tomorrow. CMLL’s has two big Friday next shows the next three weeks. This is just the last show before all of those things start.

Most of tonight’s CMLL card continues the three big feuds. The main event is another foreigners versus Mexicans match, where the outsiders seek to continue their perfect record. Juice, Taven and the returning Michael Elgin face three members of the Gran Prix team of Diamatne Azul, Ultimo Guerrero and Volador Junior. Niebla Roja & Gran Guerrero are back in the semimain, with Dragon Lee, Mistico, Shocker and Terrible rounding out that match. Sugehit & Zeuxis remain in the third match, this time with Vaqueirita, Silueta, Amapola and Comandante. All these matches are about building interest for the future; if they’re good, it’s going to be a benefit.

The big highlight match is stuck in the middle of the card: the year of Soberano continues with a lightning match against natural rival Cavernario. They’ll only have 10 minutes but they’ll probably do something crazy with that time. Drone, Guerrero Maya and Pegasso versus Disturbio, Misterioso, Sagrado is a good second match. Robin & Star Jr. face Akuma & Espanto Jr. in the opener. I think Robin and Akuma have been (slightly) trending upwards in their performances. CMLL’s seemed to relax it’s limitations in the early matches; maybe we’ll see a

CultIcon previews the show. It’ll air on ClaroSports and Facebook at 8:30pm, and will be up on CMLL’s YouTube channel soon after the show ends.

Johnny Idol posted, then later deleted, the poster for next Friday on his instagram. It appeared there was nothing special on the card beyond the Gran Prix, just the usual filler trios matches (with Niebla Roja & Gran Guerrero in the semimain.)

Internet.TV is now offering the combo package for both the Gran Prix and the Anniversario show. (Main page here; direct link may only work if you’ve logged in.) It’ll be $20 for both shows, or $10 for just the Gran Prix and (probably) $15 for the Anniversary. It is significantly cheaper if you buy the shows in Mexican pesos – there’s probably some currency change charge they’re adding into the price but they’re also just rounding it up for the foreigners.

Niebla Roja notes his match with Gran Guerrero is his first big challenge, which is one of the problems with making this the Anniversario main event.

Juice, Taven and Elgin were interviewed by El Sol de Mexico.

TripleMania

GFW/Impact announced DJZ & Andrew Everett will be their reps in the four way tag title match. They should be a really good additions to the match. DJZ is recently fully medically cleared after suffering a horrendous injury in his last appearance in Mexico City, then for The Crash. Andrew Everett also had some health problems earlier this year – a knee issue if I remember right – but has been back the last sets of Impact tapings.

Everett started out really young as a wrestler, and he wrestled under a lucha mask for the first few years of his career. I don’t know the story, but I assume someone just went to Highspots and got a fun looking mask, and he became the Chiva Kid. Los Chiva Rayadas, as soccer playing goat mascots of the Guadalajara team, started in AAA as a masked gimmick for Los Apaches. The odds of Everett ending up wrestling for the promotion where he got his original character from, on their biggest show of the year no less, had to be incredibly low when he first put on that mask. Wrestling is weird sometimes. (There’s also scandalous rumors someone else in the match might have been a soccer playing goat at one time.)

With that fun out of the way, there’s just the matter of the one open spot in Copa TripleMania. The spot may be a mystery not simply because it’s supposed to be a surprise, but because AAA hasn’t locked down the last person. An article on Alberto, who was visiting the CRIT children’s hospital in Mexico City yesterday, mentions near the end that he was still in negotiations about appearing on the show. This was followed up when Alberto visited Record, for no particular reason. He claimed he was in Mexico for other business, had not yet come to terms with AAA about a coming to the show, and was wanting more money than they were offering. He said he’s still show if AAA sent him that amount ahead of time. Alberto would absolutely fit in as the special legend to show up, and his team would be the overwhelming favorite to win should he appear.

Many people seem on their way to Mexico City today (as opposed to waiting until Saturday to come in as AAA’s done some years.) Sexy Star was heading to her flight to Instagram; it strikes me that Sexy’s title win and reintegration into AAA was supposed to be a big press deal, but there’s not been much talk about her participation leading into the show so far.

AAA’s been streaming a best of TripleMania marathon since yesterday afternoon on both Twitch channels yesterday. From what I’ve seen, matches are airing without commentary – I didn’t realize AAA even had those versions of shows. The first run went ten hours, and is being repeated as I type it. It’s also archived on the channel, so there’s a good chance TripleMania will be as well (though I couldn’t get it to work to play when I tried it.)

Psycho Clown is interviewed in La Basta.

You can watch TripleMania at the Chili’s in the Reforma 222 mall on Saturday. That’s the mall we’re always near when we stay in Mexico City, but we’ve never been into that Chili’s. That is not an interesting story but I’m running out of gas this week.

Record has a special TripleMania 25 insert available to download in PDF form. There’s a really helpful face chart of the people in the La Llave a La Gloria competition.  Even they don’t take a stab at figuring out Torneo TripleMania. I think there may be a handful of people who know how that match is supposed to work and I’m not sure the people in the match are included.

ESPN noted that you can buy Psycho Clown/Dr. Wagner Jr. masks at the Hard Rock hotel for the upcoming resort show. Except, the hotel was selling cheap pirated versions of their masks among other lucha masks, nothing AAA was involved in.

CultIcon finishes his list of top TripleMania matches ever.

Other Items

Lucha Underground’s Cueto Cup final episode had the highest viewership for the first run of any LU episode so far (177K). That’s more twice as much people as credited to watching the previous week’s episode, and about 20% more than the second most watched episode this season. It would’ve been the most viewers overall, but the repeat was actually about the same as usual, if a little lower.

Lucha Underground starts in India on 09/01.

There’s something going on with Fenix, but I’m not sure exactly what it is. He missed last week’s Martinez Promotion show, and he’s similarly off the Fight Club Pro show in the UK tonight. Both Konnan and Masked Republic have alluded to AAA/Dorian Roldan messing with Fenix recently – I don’t know if this is that, it could be something completely else happening, but he seems iffy at best right now.

Lucha Memes says Demasiado will be debuting for CMLL on 09/02 in Arena Coliseo. Demasiado is an exotico who’s been seen in Memes and IWRG among other places. (She’s not the exotico was around CMLL briefly last year, Bugambilia.) The exotico gimmick was a tourist and foreign press favorite when Maximo was doing it, and CMLL seeing if someone else can fill that role is an obvious move.

TKD reviews last week’s Lucha Underground.

The Crash’s debut in Toluca will be on 11/09.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

Fuego en el Ring has the latest edition of their podcast.

+LuchaTV has an interview with Rey Mysterio.

The Gladiatores has interviews with Eterno and Princesa Sugehit.

A bio of Hijo de Espectro Jr.

There’s another lucha libre seminar in Mexico City, on 09/14.

Lineups

Lucha Memes (SUN) 09/03/2017 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México
1) Quetzal vs Silueta
2) Keyra vs Makabre
3) Avisman vs Judas el Traidor
4) Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako vs Alas de Acero, Aramis, Iron Kid
2 v 3
5) Virus vs Aeroboy
6) Kojima vs Hechicero

Kojima versus Hechicero is the big match. Like with all foreigners working these shows (and especially in Coacalco), there’s no telling how motivated they’ll be to work in a small building but it should be a cool time for Hechicero. Virus/Aeroboy sounds fun. I understand Corsario & Drako are much bigger than the Kamikazes but I don’t understand why it’s a handicap match.

lucha TV preview for weekend of August 24th

I don’t have matches for Lucha Underground this week as of yet; it’s harder to guess without that tournament happening. The preview mentions Dario talks to Matanza about Rey and the Havoc/Madness and Ryan/Cortez feuds continue. This is episode 33 and Ultima Lucha starts with 37, so figure on a lot of building up feuds for the next four weeks. We’re probably due some more medallions be handed out in addition to the Rabbit Tribe.

AAA has either an super rare live show, or an extremely pointless taped show that’ll finish airing about 30 minutes before the PPV starts.

Puebla has the first of the Mexico/World ciberneticos to make air (unless I can get the Guadalajara one.)

CMLL Puebla: 2017-08-21 

Volador is a jerk

Recapped: 08/22/2017

All matches aired live from Arena Puebla.

Matches: 

Astro, Asturiano, Meyer beat El Perverso, Fuerza Chicana, Joker
(10:40 [4:28, 3:34, 2:38], 2/3, ok, via 
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Arkángel de la Muerte, Espanto Jr., Rey Apocalipsis beat Arkalis, Astral, Tigre Rojo Jr.  
(15:50 [8:01, 5:27, 2:22], 1/3, n/r, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Fuego, Johnny Idol, Stigma beat Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora
(15:17 [7:52, 2:25, 5:00], 1/3, OK, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Juice Robinson, Matt Taven, Volador Jr. beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Rush
(11:02 [5:29, 2:02, 3:31], 2/3, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Marco Corleone © beat Diamante Azul to keep the CMLL World Heavyweight Championship
(8:07 [1:56, 1:27, 4:44], 1/3, good, via 
VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Marco Corleone inside cradle (1:56)
  2. Diamante Azul German suplex (1:27)
  3. Marco Corleone Mark of Perfection (4:44)

What happened: 

Diamante Azul tope

Marco kept the heavyweight title in the main event.

Juice Robinson offered a tag to Volador and pulled it back early, which seemed to convince Volador not to bother helping at all. He stood on the outside while his partners got beat and eventually turned on them after Rush fouled Taven.

Thoughts: 

double slingshot armdrag (which they cut away from too soon, so this GIF is not great)

The main event hit the highlights effectively, showed better chemistry than expected for two guys who aren’t opponents all that much. Not everything looked perfect but enough of it did to surpass my small expectations. The brief length really stood out, and there’s no mistaking this for an epic title match, but I’m left thinking I’m happy with them getting out fast than pushing into areas they wouldn’t do as well. Diamante Azul worked slightly more rudo, but it wasn’t strong either way even with the Mexico/Foreigner story all over these shows.

The semimain was smoother the foreigners/Mexicans match on Friday. Progress is a good sign, but they also seemed to be less here, with the match really just a setup for Volador deciding not to get along with this partners. You can skip it.

The third match was usual good people having just a routine average match. The Revolucinarios didn’t seem into it, and there was no one singular performance by the tecnicos to make it worthwhile.

I breezed thru the opener but it still stuck out as better than usual. They seemed to have more freedom to do stuff in the open; not dives, but the double slingshot armdrag spot might as well be a dive. Astro& Asturiano are signs of good matches, and I think Perverso is getting better. They had less time but worked a faster pace, and so the match felt like it ended at the right time.

Asturiano doing things

TripleMania Twitch notes, IWRG

IWRG (WED) 08/23/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
1) Dinámico, Dranzer, Puma de Oro b Bambino, Fly Tiger, Kraken
2) Guerrero 2000, Tromba, Voltan b Fireman, Príncipe Mexica, Príncipe Omi
3) Fly Star, Voltar, Vórtize b Adrenalina, Araña de Plata, Keshin Black
4) Celestial Boy, Chicanito, Odín, Shadow Boy b Black Puma, Lunatik Xtreme, Orión I, Orión II
5) Acero, Súper Brazo Jr., Warrior Jr. b Alas de Acero, Hijo Del Bombero Infernal, Kanon
6) Ángel Oriental, Aramis, Atomic Star, Black Dragón, Demonio Infernal, Dinamic Black, Power Bull, Skanda b Aero Boy (Arena 23 De Junio), Centella Salazar, Danny Barrio, Homerito, Payachucho, Richy Beda, Último Conde, Xcorpio [Torneo FILL]
Gym FILL (Black Terry) vs Gym Cuautitlan (Robin Maravilla). Black Dragon beat Xcorpio for the win.

Gym FILL gets a win after losing a couple of these to Indy Nation. I wonder if a year long league of these school versus school matches would generate some interest; 6-8 schools, maybe everyone gets home and home and a big winner at the end. It requires way too much organization for indie lucha libre to ever actually happen.

Very close to calling this Aero Boy “Fake Aero Boy” just to make my life more amusing.

Kevin Gill and Gabriel Ramirez will be the English language announcers for TripleMania. Ramirez runs Pro Wrestling Revolucion in California. Gill calls those shows, other wrestling promotions, and also is part of Konnan’s podcast. I’d expect they’ll be professional announcers, a step up already, but I have no idea about their product knowledge. TripleMania’s big matches aren’t hard to get up to speed, but it’s a deceptively tough show to call – the Torneo Triplemania will have roughly a million people involved, and even I’m not claiming to know all the people in the La Llave a La Gloria matches. The ladder match has 3 people involved, but about 8 different angles and a bunch of people who could run in for different reasons. Prepping foreign language announcers is not a big priority for any wrestling promotion, so I hope they’ve done their homework.

The Twitch event page for TripleMania in English has a couple of unexplained details about the lineup. The La Llave a La Gloria competition will be two matches. (With 14 people, maybe that’s an atomicos and a trios.) Pagano vs Mesias is listed as an Ultimate Consequences match, whatever that means. The main event seems to have a little more consequence. Even that lineup doesn’t know who’s going to be the GFW team.

They also have a list of matches scheduled to air on the marathon. This is the list, but hold up after reading it

  • Triplemanía I: Perro Aguayo vs. Máscara Año 2000, mask vs hair
  • Triplemanía IX: Hijo del Perro Aguayo vs. Héctor Garza Vs Heavy Metal vs. Latin Lover
  • Triplemanía XVII: Dr. Wagner Jr. vs. El Mesias – AAA Mega Championship match
  • Triplemanía XVIII: La Parka vs. L.A. Park – Winner uses “La Parka” name
  • Triplemanía XXI: Cibernético vs. Hijo del Perro Aguayo, hair vs hair
  • Triplemanía XXII: Taya vs. Faby – Reina de Reyes Championship match
  • Triplemanía XXIV: Psycho Clown vs. Pagano, mask vs hair

Ok, now that you’ve scrolled past the list, know that’s probably not the full list. AAA says it’ll actually be a top 20 TripleMania matches of all time marathon, which means a lot more matches will be airing and probably none of them in full. There are some weird picks up there, but if they’re breezing them in about 90 second each, it doesn’t matter as much that you’re showing a match where La Parka got clowned.

The preview makes it sound like the English announcers will be calling these matches too, which hopefully will be taped in advance if true or they’ll have a gigantically long day.

AAA announced Aida Cuevas will sing the national anthem at TripleMania. She’s a famous Mexican singer who also has a new album coming out a couple days after the show.

Lucha Underground is now available on DVD and BluRay – in Germany, only. Lucha Underground’s Facebook current says Ultima Lucha starts on Wednesday, September 23rd. There is no Wednesday, September 23rd. They mean the 27th. El Rey announced some new programming which starts Septmber 5th, but there’s still no word on Lucha Underground’s future.

Vampiro, King Cuerno and Drago were added to the October Tokyo AAA/LU shows. AAA still has not acknowledged these shows as happening.

Puma, Misterioso, Soberano and Fuego had a match in a tiny ring at a bartending contest. The match starts about 24:00 in.

Low Ki is still being advertised as coming in for the 09/02 The Crash show, which may not turn out to happen. He seemed to be coming in thru GFW, only he’s not in GFW any more after the latest set of tapings.

The REINA International Junior championship – the one Keyra had – will now be decided in Japan in a match on 09/15 between La Jarochita and Kaho Kobayashi.

Real Aero Boy talks about how got into lucha libre.

CultIcon continues his best of TripleMania countdown.

Segunda Caida has a quick review of Terrible Cererbos vs Ninja Turtles.

The new edition of AAA Zona Ruda has the Perros del Mal as guests.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-08-19 

thanks for coming, Pimpinela

Recapped: 08/21/2017

All matches were taped from Arena Jose Sulaiman, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon on 07/16/2017

Matches:

Australian Suicide, Mamba, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown beat Bengala, El Elegido, Estrella Divina, Marty The Moth
(10:47, Murder Clown splash Elegido, ok, via luchalibreaaatv
gif: 1412/2100

Kevin Kross beat Máscara de Bronce
(1:26, Kross exploder suplex, n/r, via
luchalibreaaatv)

gif: 3126/3217/3320

Argenis, La Parka, Psycho Clown beat Averno, Chessman, Dr. Wagner Jr.
(9:13, Psycho Clown torito Chessman, ok, via
luchalibreaaatv)

What happened: 

Suicide seems to be doing well

There’s frequent promos for Wagner/Psycho airing on Televisa. Dr. Wagner was unbothered by the loss, and unmasked Psycho Clown for the umpteenth time. He got off pretty easily, maybe it’s all the practice.

The Kross/Bronce segment starts with Pimpinela being brought to be praised for her 30 year career and her win over Mamba. Pimpinela barely getting to talk before Kevin Kross attacks her. I have no idea why. Mascara de Bronce runs out face Kevin Kross, and of course gets knocked down to start the match. Pimpinela rolls out of the ring and ceases to exist. Kross only takes offense from Bronce when he’s not paying attention, and eventually just no sells a tope. He kicks the (new) ref after the match too.

Bronce gets tossed

Divina & Mamba were friends last time we saw them, but are enemies here. Marty was a rudo when we’ve see him. Elegido gets the only noticeable crowd response. Not sure what causes Bengala to bleed early, but he spends the match with it coming of it his mask, and Suicide rubs it all over himself during the early beatdown. This matches ten minutes and then, after trying hard to win the match, Marty attacks Elegido from behind for no particular reason and the match ends about 15 seconds later.

Noti AAA had Vampiro raving about La Llave a La Gloria and all the positive feedback of his changes, and Psycho Clown meeting with players on Club America.

Thoughts: 

Suicide springboard DDDT

This was a rather nothing happening show to be the last show many people will see prior to TripleMania. They did the token Wagner/Psycho feuding in the main event but that didn’t even come off as a big deal. The other matches had nothing to do with anything going on Saturday. This is a great test case for nothing really mattering, because they did nothing here.

The main event was an ordinary trios match, with La Parka seemingly getting as much time as Psycho Clown, though they did get around to Psycho/Wagner at the end. It didn’t feel as big as it should, but I supposed it doesn’t really matter at this point. Averno & Chessman stooged well for Parka – it’s like working with a less mobile Super Porky, Averno has this down. Psycho’s looked good and was pretty over, there just wasn’t the anticipation moments when he and Wagner were in you’d expect for a big match. Argenis was also there.

Mascara de Bronce is on the wrong ride

Kross/Bronce was not really a match in the usual sense. Kross just squashed Mascara de Bronce in a way where Bronce is pretty exposed as nothing more than an unimportant object for Kross to toss around. I wish they would’ve done more to make Kross more interesting before they decided to make him the top rudo or their version of Brock Lesnar on their roster, but there we are.

The atomicos seemed to be a dare to see what would happen if they dropped Marty in the weirdest possible match. He did far more teaming with Elegido against the Clowns than you’d expect, but maybe it makes more sense if you knew it was just a setup for Marty to attack Elegido. This also felt pointless and not very good. Suicide & Bengala were very good against each other, even though Suicide should be about half blind with his bandanna pulled down to Gedo levels. The exoticos were OK, but this match is a waste of time.