great match roundup, week of 2017-06-17

the splash

so much stuff

watching five different CMLL shows burned me out on watching things for a few days (and I had better things to do anyway) so that’s why this is going up on Thursday. A lot of the extra stuff wasn’t really that interesting and I probably should choose wiser but I wouldn’t be here if I made sound decisions.

Recommend Matches

rating matches TV Show taped
excellent Volador Jr. © vs Cavernario for the NWA World Welterweight Championship LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-20 2017-06-20
great Hechicero © vs Atlantis for the NWA World Light Heavyweight Championship LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-19 2017-06-19
good Australian Suicide & Bengala vs Aerostar & Drago for the AAA World Tag Team Championship and in a Number One Contenders Match match AAA Worldwide desde CDMX Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Junio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) Bengala y Australian Suicide vs Drago y Aerostar en el Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera (posted by Estrellas del Ring) AAA on Televisa: 2017-06-17 2017-05-26
good Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-06-17 2017-06-13
good Marco Corleone © vs Terrible for the CMLL World Heavyweight Championship LUCHA LIBRE DOMINGO 18 DE JUNIO DIA DEL PDRE EN LA ARENA MEXICO (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-18 2017-06-18
good Blue Panther Jr., Pegasso, The Panther vs Puma, Tiger, Virus LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-20 2017-06-20
good Saltador vs Marty Martinez [Cueto Cup] and [16f] Lucha Underground: 2017-06-21 2016-05-07
good Pindar vs Máscarita Sagrada [Cueto Cup] and [16f] Lucha Underground: 2017-06-21 2016-05-07
good Matanza Cueto vs Dragón Azteca Jr. [death] Matanza vs El Dragon Azteca Jr Lucha Underground Mid-Season Finale (posted by El Rey Network) Lucha Underground: 2017-06-21 2016-05-07

Other matches watched

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Venum vs Lanzeloth, Raptor, Máscara de Bronce [Oportunidad de Oro] AAA Worldwide desde CDMX Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Junio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) Máscara de Bronce vs Raptor vs Venum vs Lanzeloth en el Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera (posted by Estrellas del Ring) AAA on Televisa: 2017-06-17 2017-05-26
ok El Mesías & Pagano © vs Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria for the AAA World Tag Team Championship AAA Worldwide desde CDMX Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Junio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) Pagano y el Mesías vs Cuervo y Scoria por el Campeonato de Parejas AAA (posted by Estrellas del Ring) AAA on Televisa: 2017-06-17 2017-05-26
ok Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Niebla Roja vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Niebla Roja vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-06-17 2017-06-13
ok Astral & Sensei vs Akuma & Espanto Jr. LUCHA LIBRE DOMINGO 18 DE JUNIO DIA DEL PDRE EN LA ARENA MEXICO (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-18 2017-06-18
ok La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit vs Dalys, Metálica, Zeuxis LUCHA LIBRE DOMINGO 18 DE JUNIO DIA DEL PDRE EN LA ARENA MEXICO (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-18 2017-06-18
ok Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. vs Felino, Hechicero, Pierroth LUCHA LIBRE DOMINGO 18 DE JUNIO DIA DEL PDRE EN LA ARENA MEXICO (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-18 2017-06-18
ok Dragón Lee, Stuka Jr., Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Shocker LUCHA LIBRE DOMINGO 18 DE JUNIO DIA DEL PDRE EN LA ARENA MEXICO (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-18 2017-06-18
ok Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja vs Fuerza Chicana & Policeman LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-19 2017-06-19
ok Estrellita & Sanely vs Amapola & Dalys LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-19 2017-06-19
ok Black Tiger, Espíritu Maligno, Lestat vs Ares, Arkángel de la Muerte, Rey Apocalipsis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-19 2017-06-19
ok Ángel de Oro, Stigma, Titán vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-19 2017-06-19
ok Centvrión, Eterno, Ovett vs Cerebro Negro, Demonio Infernal, Súper Mega Centvrión, Eterno, Ovett vs Cerebro Negro, Demonio Infernal, Súper Mega (posted by thecubsfan) Eterno, Centvrión y Ovett vs Súper Mega, Cerebro Negro y Demonio Infernal (Lucha Completa) (posted by +LuchaTV) Eterno, Centvrión y Ovett vs Súper Mega, Cerebro Negro y Demonio Infernal, en IWRGTV (posted by IWRG tv) Eterno, Centvrión y Ovett vs Súper Mega, Demonio Infernal y Cerebro Negro. (posted by Estrellas del Ring) IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-06-19 2017-06-14
ok Magnus, Metatrón, Oro Jr. vs Akuma, Canelo Casas, Sangre Azteca LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-20 2017-06-20
ok Blue Panther, Drone, Fuego vs Cuatrero, Sam Adonis, Sansón LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-20 2017-06-20
ok Carístico, Mistico, Valiente vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-20 2017-06-20
ok Cage vs Vinnie Massaro [16f] and [Cueto Cup] Lucha Underground: 2017-06-21 2016-05-07
ok Eléctrico, Shockercito, Stukita vs Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Violencia 2017-06-23 CMLL (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-06-23 2017-06-23
ok Estrellita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis 2017-06-23 CMLL (posted by thecubsfan) LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-06-23 2017-06-23
ok Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero 2017-06-23 CMLL (posted by thecubsfan) LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-06-23 2017-06-23
below average La Jarochita, Sanely, Skadi vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany La Jarochita, Sanely, Skadi vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-06-17 2017-06-13
below average El Gallito & Microman vs Mije & Perico Zakarías LUCHA LIBRE DOMINGO 18 DE JUNIO DIA DEL PDRE EN LA ARENA MEXICO (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-18 2017-06-18
below average Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico vs Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-19 2017-06-19
below average Fantasy & Último Dragóncito vs Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Universo 2000 LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 20 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-06-20 2017-06-20
below average Vangellys vs Pierroth in a lightning match 2017-06-23 CMLL (posted by thecubsfan) LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-06-23 2017-06-23
below average Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Euforia, Rush in a relevos increíbles match 2017-06-23 CMLL (posted by thecubsfan) LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-06-23 2017-06-23

Lucha Underground 3×24: Macho Madness

Crane cannonball

Matches

Mil Muertes beat Veneno (1:08, Flatliner, not rated)
Paul London beat Vibora (3:53, COR with Rabbit Tribe holding Vibora, below average)
Taya beat Joey Ryan (3:34, northern lights suplex into double stomp, OK)
Jeremiah Crane defeated Killshot (13:02, Cranial Contusion, great)

Developments

doing that dive with the flip seems extra hard

This week started Block C of Cueto Cup. The 32 person field means it’s still just non-contenders quickly getting whittled away, but there was one upset of note and one competitive match.

The focus was on the Mil Muertes, Catrina and Jeremiah Crane love triangle. When we last left them, Crane was trying to win Catrina over by costing Mil matches, only Catrina told Crane that it wasn’t Mil she loved. Crane was apparently unconvinced by Catrina. After seeing Mil declare his love for her and advance in the tournament, Crane destroyed Mil in the bathroom. Catrina stared at Crane with unclear intentions at the end of the show.

Crane could stare at her, because he won a lengthy and close match up with Killshot. Killshot landed his top rope double stomp but Crane kicked out. Killshot went for a a different finish, but was distracted by the voice of Dante Fox. Fox was high up in the balcony, and talked just enough to cause Killshot to lose his focus and his match. They’re not done with each other.

The Rabbit Tribe isn’t done. Paul London became the only member of his trio to advance to the second round, with the help of a carrot and his partners holding Vibora outside for the countout. The was another silly match, but one where the silliness seemed to be intended as a method of working around Vibora’s limitations.

at least it’ll be easy to get the doctor to ok any painkilling medication now

Taya defeated Joey Ryan cleanly in the other first round match. While both Veneno and Joey Ryan were present, there was no movement on the police front.

The second round matches in this block are Taya versus Crane and Mil Muertes versus Paul London. Tonight’s show clearly pointed towards a Crane versus Muertes final.

The show concluded with Dario showing off the final first round in the office. Dario delivered the performance of a lifetime when he excitedly promoted Sexy Star/PJ Black, but there’s was still a blank spot against Son of Havoc. Dario’s guest requested the final spot for himself, and then introduced himself: Son of Madness. He looks a lot like Son of Havoc, with the same mask, gear and beard, but a bit bigger.

This show also included the weekly Road to Mundo versus Mysterio video segment, this time asking others who they were picking. They were almost out of character – Chavo was listed as a retired luchador but sitting in the Temple, Cage didn’t have his glove. For what it’s worth, Chavo & Prince Puma picked Rey, Cage picked Johnny Mundo and Striker didn’t pick a side.

Thoughts

nicely timed

This was a one match show, with Killshot & Jeremiah Crane getting tons of time to do their match and everything else kept short. There’s no problem with that if these were the other three matches to have: Joey Ryan and Taya was best in a small dose, Mil Muertes shouldn’t be giving much to a Veneno, and Vibora’s not ready for TV. Paul London was his opponent to carry the match thru Vibora’s limitations. They were only going to Vibora to do one thing, get in London’s path on the dive so London doesn’t fall dangerously, and Vibora couldn’t do that one thing. The best thing to happen here is we don’t have to see Vibora in a match by himself for a long time.

The Killshot/Jeremiah Crane match was obviously a way to give two underexposed characters a bigger spotlight this season. They didn’t know the break was happening when they filmed it, but that too makes it more necessary to remind you who these guys are and why you should care. The storylines themselves weren’t all that compelling – it felt cheap for the match to end on a distraction after all the big move kickouts, and the Crane/Catrina stuff feels a little forced – but the match itself was pretty excited. Jeremiah Crane is Sami Callihan with a few more demented expressions and this was pretty much the Sami Callihan quick & fast paced action indie match. Strickland kept up and the crowd ate it up. The series of dives to start the match felt a little bit much and they were really laying in on the sound effects, but this worked as a way to get attention back on those two guys and made them both feel like people you needed to keep an eye on every time they were around. It’s really the only thing you need to pay attention for this show.

CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-06-23 

occasionally Rush does something to remind me why he’s actually good

Recapped: 06/27/2017

Matches: 

Eléctrico, Shockercito, Stukita beat Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Violencia
(16:49 [7:22, 3:46, 5:41], 2/3, ok, via thecubsfan)

Estrellita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit beat Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
(11:41 [5:14, 2:22, 4:05], 2/3 DQ, ok, via thecubsfan)

Vangellys  beat Pierroth in a lightning match
(5:17, inside cradle w/ropes, below average, via  thecubsfan)

Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja  beat  Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero
(11:09 [0:58, 4:45, 5:26], 1/3, ok, via thecubsfan)

Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. beat Cavernario, Euforia, Rush in a relevos increíbles match
(8:07 [3:06, 5:01], 1 DQ/2, below average, thecubsfan)

What happened: 

dive catch gif

Diamante Azul returned from another trip to France to get his mask destroyed in the first fall. When he finally got a new one, his comeback led to an almost instant win for his team, with Rush pinning Azul.

Angel de Oro pinned Gran Guerrero cleanly as they feuded all match.

Vangellys used the ropes to beat Pierroth, then challenged him to a hair match. He got a response from Rush, sneaking in behind to club Vangellys. The Munoz family destroyed Vangellys while accepting his challenge.

Dalys tried to distract referee Edgar long enough for Zeuxis to toss her mask to Princesa Sugehit. Dalys didn’t do her part long enough, and Edgar turned around in plenty of time to watch Zeuxis commit the deed. Edgar considered giving the match to the rudas for the briefest of moments before raising Sugehit’s arm.

Estrellita had a shoulder brace on, which probably explains why she started missing matches after this show.

Thoughts: 

Vangellys selling

This was a marked step down from previous shows. None of the matches were particular good and some were just not good. The matches around the feuds didn’t come off as strong as usual.

The main event was derailed by Rush doing too good for a job destroying Diamante Azul’s mask. Everyone pretty much stopped until he could find a new one, and then the match went about 20 seconds after he came back. That was no good. The match was no good.

Both the semimain and the women’s match pushed those feuds fine, but there was not a lot to the matches. The finish in the women’s match came off as it was messed up and Edgar was left to DQ Zeuxis when that wasn’t the finish, but also that didn’t matter at all. The semimain had Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja showing off a lot of tag team moves for a team that’s not booked as a 2v2 team. It probably should be a tag feud against Gran Guerrero & Último Guerrero, but that requires the promotion to have tag team titles.

Stukita

Vangellys & Pierroth was predictably poor in outcome, though I was mildly surprised how they got there. Sons modeling their wrestling styles after their fathers is normal, but I can’t recall a father trying to be a fourth rate clone of his son like Pierroth did here. He’s not very good at it, completely lacking the charisma that makes it work for Rush, and it left a match where neither man was doing much. Pierroth wasn’t going to do much than brawl, and it came off as if they weren’t trusting Vangellys to do any moves to him. The one thing Pierroth could do was his big second rope senton, so of course Vangellys barely sold it and went right to the finish after it. I can not believe someone thinks it’s a good idea to do a longer version of this match.

The minis match got good in the third fall and Stukita’s established enough that the fans pick up the moment he gets in the ring. They could do more with him, but they won’t, so it didn’t feel like it mattered much.

Vangellys/Pierroth, CMLL Gran Prix, TripleMania date not changing, Octagon

triple dive

CMLL (TUE) 06/27/2017 Arena México [CMLL, NotiMex]
1) Cholo & Templario b Bengala & Sangre Imperial LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Astral, Magnus, Robin b Artillero, Espanto Jr., Hijo del Signo LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
an Astral team actually won, taking falls 2/3
3) Raziel, Sagrado, Virus b Johnny Idol, Oro Jr., Stigma LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Raziel remains invincible
4) Esfinge b Disturbio [lightning] LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
nudo egipico in 8:33
5) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto b Fuego, Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
6) Diamante Azul, Mistico, Niebla Roja DQ Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 27 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Gran Guerrero fouled Niebla Roja and then unmasked him after the match.

CMLL’s definitely switched the feud from Niebla Roja versus Ultimo Guerrero to Niebla Roja versus Gran Guerrero. I don’t know what it means for matches down the road, but there’s definitely was a shift.

There’s so much stuff going on that this needs headers today.

CMLL Press Conference

CMLL held what was billed as a Gran Prix focused press conference, which turned out to be at least a little bit of a bait and switch. You can watch the whole thing here if you’d like.

CMLL did announce Team Mexico. It’s Ultimo Guerrero, Mephisto, Euforia, Dragon Lee, Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr., and Rush. They did not announce a single new person for Team World. They instead said one more person will be announced Informa this week. They didn’t say when the other four would be announced, but I’d suspect we’ll continue to get the slow roll out via Informa for a while. (Lucha Memes was hyped about a unnamed Japanese lucahdor debuting, so that may be the announcement in a few hours.)

It was underwhelming to only get Team Mexico, especially with the absurd of inviting the press for an announcement and then saving more of it for your internet show seen by a few thousand people. They heavily pushed the Rest of the World team would be made up of “mainly ROH & NJPW” talent. They had flags for Tonga, the US, Japan and New Zealand hanging, which seems to indicate there’s reps coming for those last two countries. (Though why bother hanging them if one country wasn’t going to be announced until later and one not at all today?)

The real thing CMLL was pushing with the Vangellys/Pierroth hair match, which was set for July 14. It’s the same night as the Universal final. They had the usual contract signing and face off, though not coming to blows. Vangellys said he’s going after Rush after he gets thru Pierroth. He’s not getting thru Pierroth.

Bobby Bonales talked about the Copa Bobby Bonales, which CMLL already wrote an article about. Daniel Aceves announced the Copa would go both to a man and a woman. Usually, CMLL books the winner on the show so they can get it before the match, but there are not any women booked. Maybe that means neither winner will be wrestling.

A women’s cibernetico will be held on July 21st, called Copa Natalia Vázquez. Vazquez is credited as being the first ever Mexican luchadora, wrestling in the original Arena Mexico in 1935 as past of Mildred Burke’s troupe. Marcela, Princesa Sugehit and Zeuxis were brought onto to talk about the tournament. It’ll be held one week after the Mae Young Classic is taped in WWE (but before it airs, I believe) and seems like it could be the turning point in the the Zeuxis/Sugehit mask match. Those two talked about the possibility of having a mask match at the Anniversary show, and Sugehit’s participation in WWE would be wrapped up well before then.

They brought out the B Block participants in the Universal tournament for the usual promos. It’s weird that they schedule these in a way where they don’t have everyone from the block there. Niebla Roja says his goal is to face Ultimo Guerrero in the block final because UG always ends up there, so he’s paying attention.

AAA Press Conference

The big news from AAA’s press conference came after the cameras stopped rolling. In an interview with MedioTiempo, Dorian Roldan stated TripleMania will not be changing it’s date. They will continue to run August 26, the same night as the Mayweather/McGregor fight. Roldan also revealed the show will take place at 9pm, which means the show will definitely still be going on as that fight is happening. (TripleMania usually starts much earlier, but it also usually runs on a Sunday instead of a Saturday.) AAA’s belief is they would rescheduled if they were holding the event in the US, but believe enough people in Mexico will still care about the show as to not move it.

Roldan went on to say that the Leo Riano story of airing TripleMania on TV is incorrect, and they have “great possibilities” of the usual PPV. They’re also in talks with an unnamed US TV outlet to air TripleMania on a delay. Nothing appears to have been said about internet PPV.

Delayed airing doesn’t sound promising to US AAA fans, but it’s big news if it happens at all. It would be the first time an AAA branded show aired in the US since they were on Galavision in 2011. At that time, the rights to the AAA show were part of a bundle of Televisa programming sold exclusively to Galavision. AAA had no control of where they would air or if they would air, they could only try to convince Galavision to air their program. Eventually the people in charge of Galavision decided they weren’t interested in airing lucha libre. Subsequently, people with Lucha Underground have said they have exclusive TV rights to AAA luchadors, and attempts at airing English versions of AAA’s product in the US have ended up crashing into that wall. (This is why people who get the Fight Network in the US do not get the AAA show at last check.)

If TripleMania airs in some form in the US, that’ll be another thing said not to be allowed under AAA & Lucha Underground’s contract that’s now being done by AAA. Perhaps Dorian Roldan being elevated in the Lucha Underground power structure has allowed him to rewrite those deals or choose which parts to enforce, but the relationship is definitely changing.

(Leo Riano’s not correct a lot, even on AAA stories despite working for AAA. If there were 20 people n the know writing weekly lucha libre columns I’d definitely be skipping his.)

In lesser scandalous news, Dr. Wagner Jr. apologized for hitting Psycho Clown with a car destruction related insult.

They didn’t get it done in time for the press conference, but the Psycho Clown themed plane is now ready.

All Other Press Conferences

Octagon has a press conference today announcing the ANLPI (Association of National Professional Independent Luchadors.) This goes back to last year, when Octagon announced plans to form some sort of group for luchadors to protect their rights following his own issues with AAA.

This happened at the same time as the CMLL press conference and I caught very little of it,  so hopefully more details on it tomorrow.

Octagon did call Fantasma and the Mexico City Lucha Libre commission corrupt, That’s surprising, but I think what Octagon is trying to do would supplant that. There were CDMX logos as part of the press conference, so he may have gotten some governmental support on this. Octagon also claimed he had won his cases over AAA about his name and his other labor issues, which is the first anyone’s said and would be a big deal if true.

DTU had press conferences for their tour, which starts tomorrow in Arena Aficion. Angel o Demonio defected to the X-LAW side, leaving Los Porros for the moment – but he’s still booked with Ovett on matches on this tour.

Lucha Underground, who are having a TV show and not a press conference

Tonight’s Lucha Underground is episode 3×24, “Macho Madness”. It’ll be the third block of the first round of the Cueto Cup

  • Vibora vs Paul London
  • Veneno vs Mil Muertes
  • Jeremiah Crane vs Killshot
  • Taya vs Joey Ryan (video)

If we all stick together and stay strong, we’ll be able to survive Taya versus Joey Ryan.

The episode guide preview points at this being a Jeremiah Crane/Mil Muertes/Catrina focused episode. Both of the police officers are on the show as well, so maybe we’ll get something there. This would also be the week to reveal who Son of Havoc is facing in the tournament if they’re going to do it in advance.

I guess this is Lucha Underground too: Josh Mathews says he was offered the Lucha Underground play by play gig. He was not the first pick: Mathews story is LU offered the job to him originally, he was impressed but the (seven season) contracts were too much for him. If you recall, that was a big issue right before the first set of tapings, where a lot of talent were pushing back at the length of contracts being offered and LU was having trouble filling out their cast.

Mathews says LU contacted him again right before the first set of tapings, because the person they were bringing in to call the show from Mexico had visa problems. (Those were the same visa issues that caused Pentagon, Fenix, and Drago to miss the first two episodes and caused everything up to Aztec Warfare to be rewritten; we need an oral history of those first episodes once this is all over.) Josh was willing to just work the shows, but was otherwise busy, and that’s how they ended up calling Matt Striker.

I’m not sure who the Mexican PBP announce would’ve been. Maybe they meant Hugo Savinovich, who ended up doing the Spanish PBP only, but I don’t think he would’ve been in Mexico, he may live in the US and didn’t need a visa. Maybe it would’ve been Jesus Zuniga, which would’ve been a disaster. Maybe it would’ve been someone else? Josh is loathed by fans of Impact and the bickering announcing storyline is death, but he was fine on the World Cup should and probably would’ve been fine on Lucha Underground. More importantly, we probably would’ve been spared Matt Striker’s abysmal TripleMania performances. If it is the Fight Network who ends up with TripleMania, I’d expect we’ll hear Josh on that one.

That same interview has Josh saying he believes something has changed with the Lucha Underground contracts to allow Fantasma and Drago to work their show. It sounds like he may not know much more than us on the details.

Everything Else

Satanico beat Coco Rojo for his hair on June 18, part of a weekend expo lucha libre show in Zapopan. Yuriko, May Flowers, and Pasion Cristal beat Vago, el Brujo and Alex Romano in 3v3 hair on another show.

PWR will have Super Crazy vs Penta 0M on 7/8 (Saturday). Of note, this is a Fite TV PPV for $10, while their recent shows have been on FloSlam (which would now be $30/month.)

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report, which a recap of the latest +LuchaTV podcast.

The latest Winter Palace podcast has Dr. Lucha on as a guest.

Lineups

WMC (SUN) 07/02/2017 Salón Balumcanan, Iztacalco, Distrito Federal
1) Zafiro vs Casandra, Reina Oscura
2) Dowki & Hanaoka vs Demasiado & Yuriko
3) Demoledor & Fly Warrior vs Toxin & Tromba
4) Fandango vs Terremoto, Rayo Star [WMC UNIVERSAL]
5) Fulgor I, Fulgor II, Látigo, Séptimo Rayo vs Disturbio, Príncipe Diamante, Soberano Jr., Súper Comando
6) Metaleón vs Tóxico [WMC XTREME]

WMC is back this weekend with a couple title matches, and an Indy Nation vs CMLL Atomicos.

CMLL (MON) 07/03/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Asturiano, Black Tiger, Meyer vs El Malayo, Fuerza Chicana, King Jaguar
2) Marcela vs Dalys [lightning]
3) Soberano Jr., Stigma, Titán vs Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado
4) Espíritu Maligno vs Ares [hair]
5) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Valiente vs Kráneo, Mephisto, Ripper
6) Pierroth, Rush, Último Guerrero vs Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible

Espiritu Maligno and Ares have been booked against each other for months, but only bothered to build up their feud last week. They had to know they were meant to have a hair match – if I figured it out, so could they – they just didn’t try at all. Ares hasn’t been much good at all, was clearly brought back just to be given a hair match payoff, and this is the most dispiriting type of CMLL booking as fan.

I have no idea what’s meant to be going on in that main event. I suspect they were planning on doing a Dalys/Estrellita title match but Estrellita got hurt and they didn’t want to have Marcela lose another title match.

CMLL (TUE) 07/04/2017 Arena México
1) Fantasy & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro
2) Flyer, Príncipe Diamante, Sensei vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Sangre Azteca
3) Fuego, Johnny Idol, Stigma vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Universo 2000 Jr.
4) Drone vs Puma [lightning]
5) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, The Panther vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
6) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas

A completely random show, but at least Drone/Puma is different and the semimain could be good. Raziel is facing slightly tougher competition than usual, his win streak will be tested.

CMLL (TUE) 07/04/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Metatrón & Neutrón vs Maléfico & Thunder Boy
2) Astral, Magnum, Robin vs Akuma, Canelo Casas, Rey Trueno
3) Esfinge, Oro Jr., Star Jr. vs Disturbio, Tiger, Virus
4) Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr., Titán vs Felino, Hechicero, Ripper
5) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico vs Cavernario, Mephisto, Último Guerrero

Based on last night’s lineup, it looks like Dragon Lee versus Cavernario or Carsitico vs Cavernario is coming up here.

LyP Klandestino (SUN) 07/16/2017 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Pegazus, Súper Astro Jr., Yakuza vs Alas de Acero, Aramis, Iron Kid
2) Lokillo, Sádico, Toxin vs Arez, Belial, Impulso
3) Imposible & Súper Mega vs Emperador Azteca & Eterno
4) Daga & Zorro vs Cien Caras Jr. & Rey Escorpión
5) The King vs Marty Scurll
6) Penta 0M vs La Máscara [super libre]

Lucha y Pasion is running a second show, but combining with the other super indie themed shows here. (I can’t figure out if Kalndestino is a separate promotion or a just another way of branding AULL shows but run by them too.) I saw Fenix/Marty Scurll in AAW two years ago and it was really good, so hopefully it’ll be the same here.

AAA TV (SUN) 07/16/2017 Arena Jose Sulaiman, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon
1) Big Mami, Lady Shani, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Goya Kong, La Hiedra, Mamba
2) Bengala & El Elegido vs Australian Suicide & Marty The Moth and Monsther Clown & Murder Clown
3) Kevin Kross vs Máscara de Bronce
winner gets the title shot briefcase
4) Aerostar, Drago, Raptor vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker [AAA TRIOS]
5) Hijo del Fantasma & Texano Jr. vs Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria
6) Argenis, La Parka, Pagano vs Averno, Chessman, El Mesías
7) Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr.

This is a card that makes sense or at least fits with current patterns by having enemies team up, and would seem totally likely if AAA was a normal promotion. The way AAA is run right now, we’re better off assuming that these are the matches which will NOT be happening on this taping. I want to get excited for a Suicide & Marty team but they’re not letting me.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-06-20 (Volador/Cavernario)

don’t anger the caveman

Recapped: 06/22/2017

Matches: 

Fantasy & Último Dragóncito beat Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Universo 2000
(11:25 [5:29, 3:16, 2:40], 2/3, below average, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Magnus, Metatrón, Oro Jr.  beat  Akuma, Canelo Casas, Sangre Azteca
(11:49 [3:38, 3:15, 4:56], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Puma, Tiger, Virus beat Blue Panther Jr., Pegasso, The Panther 
(15:13 [6:29, 3:59, 4:45], 2/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cuatrero, Sam Adonis, Sansón beat Blue Panther, Drone, Fuego
(12:31 [6:31, 3:59, 2:01], 1/3, ok, viaVideosOficialesCMLL)

Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto beat Carístico, Mistico, Valiente  
(13:47 [3:42, 4:55, 5:10], 2/3, ok, via: VideosOficialesCMLL)

Volador Jr. © beat Cavernario for the NWA World Welterweight Championship (18:05, excellent, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Cavernario springboard pump splash (2:00)

  2. Volador top rope headscissors (3:11)

  3. Volador Canadian Destroyer (12:54)

What happened: 

Volador defeated Barbaro Cavernario to keep the NWA World Welterweight Championship

Sam Adonis snuck in a foul on Blue Panther to win that match. That’s about it. 

Thoughts: 

the splash

This was a one match show, but that can work out fine when the match is as good as Volador/Cavernario. Cavernario is so good as Volador’s opponent – we’ve seen Volador do this style of match with an incredible amount of people over the last three years, and there’s a level of fatigue with some of the more familiar elements. Cavernario relieves that fatigue, bringing his own believable aggression to make Volador fight for his big spots and crushing him with his own big moves. This was not spot to near fall to spot like a Volador/Mephisto match, this was Volador being in danger often and surviving from moment to moment. They were helped by a large and loud crowd who so into the action that they believed this one was ending on a tapatia, but the luchadors gave them plenty to react towards during this match. This match up is a success every time they do it, and hopefully they’ll find a way to do in the biggest moment someday.

The semimain was the usual showcase but just didn’t click for me. There was a lot of standing and looking around at times where it didn’t belong. Mistico looks all banged up right now: the pad on his back, the neck pain from Monday and was moving slower than usual. He still tried to do everything he normally does.

The fourth match almost got to good, helped by Sam Adonis being getting big reactions from this crowd. He’s the most over guy who gets nothing to do, and this would be shocking in any promotion but CMLL. This match was fun at times and I think my problem was only that I liked the match before even better.

Panther topes

That tercera just moved really well and had some unique moments, from Puma & The Panther being the mat opening bit (not Virus) to the simultaneous pins at the end but one side having already beaten someone for the win. Puma looked good thru the match, and helped it keep the really fast pace. Pegasso wearing his combo Panther shirt was amusing, because CMLL seems to be booking him like he’s the fourth member of the family this year – he’s with these two almost as much as Forastero is with Cuatrero and Sansón. Blue Panther Jr. would be more enjoyable with some more snap on his moves.

It takes about one botched spot for me to give up on CMLL opening cards matches these days and they gave me a good one about 4.5 in. The rest of the match was not really anything, people taking occasional bumps with no background noise because there’s not many people there and no one cares. The second match wasn’t any better.

sigh

Dragon Lee defeats Negro Casas, AAA Ring & Rockstars, CMLL announcements tomorrow

Zacarias dive

CMLL (MON) 06/26/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Asturiano & Vega b El Perverso & Joker  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Amapola & Dalys b Marcela & Sanely  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Marcela replaced Estrellita. Dalys used the ropes beat Marcela for the win. Challenges followed.
3) Espíritu Maligno, Fuego, Pegasso vs Ares, Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Espiritu surprised Ares with a cradle. Challenges followed.
4) Felino, Puma, Tiger b Drone, Johnny Idol, Stuka Jr.  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Dragón Lee b Negro Casas [lightning]  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Dragon Lee won in about 7 minutes.
6) Niebla Roja, Rey Bucanero, Terrible DQ Pierroth, Rush, Último Guerrero [Relevos Increíbles]  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Ultimo Guerrero fouled Niebla Roja

I’ve seen the last two matches so far. Dragon Lee versus Negro Casas was very good. The main event was not. They finally got on the Ares/Espiritu thing.

Looks like Felino, Negro Casas and Dalys were filming a new fruit drink Boing commercial.

It’s been roughly 15 hours since anyone last got to see Ultimo Guerrero versus Niebla Roja, so we’re all in luck tonight. They meet again in the Arena Mexico main event tonight, with Mistico, Diamante Azul, Euforia and Gran Guerrero filling out the match. It’s the only ongoing feud on this Tuesday show.

The semimain has Hijos del Infernio against Fuego, Soberano and Stuka. Esfinge and Disturbio meet in the lightning match; CMLL’s gone cold on Esfinge from where he was about a year ago. Raziel, who’s only Arena Mexico loss in the last two months was in the Gran Alternativa, teams with Sagrado & Virus against Johnny Idol, Oro Jr. and Stigma. The weekly match of the doomed, the Tuesday segunda, has Astral, Magnus, Robin, Artillero, Espanto Jr., and Hijo del Signo. The show opens with Magia Blanca & Sangre Imperial against Cholo & Templario in what would be Templario’s first streaming appearance in about a year.

The show starts at 7:30pm on CMLL’s YouTube but, unless you want to watch new father Magnus, you probably should wait at least an hour before joining.

CMLL will have one of it’s traditional noon press conference tomorrow. The invitation includes the Gran Prix logo, so that’ll be a focus. I think there’s a good chance most of the field is announced. I also believe they’ll be putting a date on Vangellys/Pierroth; Vangellys is also announced as speaking on CMLL Informa later that night. The dream announcement is simply a date for the Anniversary show.

Matt Taven said he’ll be in CMLL for a couple of weeks around the Gran Prix. It’s not clear if that’ll be the case for everyone coming in. That’s the way they handled it last time, but Elite was also splitting costs to some extent.

CMLL mentions Bobby Bonales passed away today in 1994, and mentions the Copa Bobby Bonales goes to a luchador with a great career. Shocker makes the most sense of the guys in the Universal tournament.

AAA held a press conference for the Ring and Rock Star show on September 23rd. There was not much news; this was something to promote the travel package and you’ll speed thru when it shows up on Noti AAA this week or next. They did announce Dr. Wagner & Psycho Clown will be doing workouts at the Riveria Maya resort from August 21 to August 24 to promote TripleMania and the trip. That’s two days before the show, when they’d normally be in Mexico City to hype the show. Maybe they’re that confident about tickets or getting the press to come out to the resort.

Wagner did make a reference to Psycho Clown destroying Ultimo Guerrero’s car, which is the first time that’s been acknowledged at all in AAA (and probably wasn’t meant to be.)

On today’s Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer said Drago & Hijo del Fantasma are expected to work the Impact TV tapings following this PPV. PPV might be a way around their contract limitations but those guys appearing on Impact would mean they’re just ignoring them after fighting for the months ago. It’d make sense for Drago & Fantamsa to build something up with the Impact guys coming for TripleMania to generate interest, but AAA’s already set up Fantasma in their title match and Drago seems to be set for a trios title match.

Konnan announced he’ll been posting video of The Crash show for his Patreon subscribers this week. It’ll be for the $5/month subscribers. I want this to be the full show but it’s not actually said. Konnan also shoots short videos for his Patreon subscribers and it could be something along those lines.

The Crash announced War Machine for their on 07/14 show. They’re also teasing a match with Jack Evans & Bestia 666, which could be their hair match.

Flamita was announced as the first name in this year’s Battle of Los Angeles. Flamita participated in Progress Wrestling’s own tournament a month ago too, and these matches could open the way for him to work more US indies.

MedioTiempo has a video interview with Angel de Oro, talking about wanting to become a bigger star. Angel de Oro is the current CMLL middleweight champion of the world after a light run as light heavyweight champion, has won two Reyes del Aire, one mask, and been brought into other major promotions.

Luchadora Hetzza is finishing up in Stardom tomorrow after three months. She’s generally been wrestling in early matches and losing, but it’s three months of regular work in a high level promotion.

RIOT announced their next show (BLOW) for 7/29. They’ll have a match in the Powerbomb title tournament.

LuchaWorld has the latest Poster-Mania.

A photo series on lucha libre (visiting some GALLI shows).