CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-04-21 

   

tope magno

 Recapped: 04/25/2017

Matches:

All matches aired live from Arena Mexico. You can see them on my channel.

  1. Canelo Casas & Espanto Jr. defeated Flyer & Robin (12:01 [4:33, 3:31, 3:57], 1/3, ok)
  2. Drone, Fuego, Rey Cometa beat Nitro, Raziel, Virus (17:19 [6:11, 4:27, 6:41], 2/3, ok)
  3. Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Luciferno in a lightning match (6:22, Dos Caras Clutch, ok)
  4. Sansón won the Copa Junior semifinal cibernetico (22:36, good)
    • Star Jr. suplex into backcracker Artillero (8:20)
    • Forastero wheelbarrow suplex Stigma (10:18)
    • Sansón pin Star Jr. (12:12)
    • Blue Panther Jr. Canadian Destroyer Magnus (14:10)
    • Sansón springboard guillotine knee smash Esfinge (17:03)
    • Blue Panther Jr. inside cradle Forastero (18:47)
    • Sansón suplex Blue Panther Jr. (22:36)
  5. Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr., Valiente beat Mr. Niebla, Pierroth, Sam Adonis (8:45 [2:00, 1:33, 5:12], 2/3, ok)
  6. Cavernario, La Máscara, Negro Casas beat Carístico, Dragón Lee, Volador Jr.  (8:41 [2:47, 1:23, 4:31], 1/3 DQ, good)

What happened: 

Mascara’s best move is his superkick, so he does it all the time

La Mascara pulled off Dragon Lee’s mask to escape the hanging double stomp, then took advantage of Tirantes being knocked down to fake a foul from Volador for the win. Volador challenged La Mascara to a hair match. Mascara says no. Volador asks again, and Mascara teases coming back to fight, only to turn around and walk out.

A seeding battle set the teams for the Copa Junior. Star Jr. (now with dreadlocks?), Magnus, Esfinge (wearing a heavy hoodie for no good reason) and Forastero face Artillero, Stigma, Sansón and Blue Panther Junior. It goes about three minutes Forastero and Sansón don’t want to fight when they start off together, hugging instead. Sanson later pulls Stigma off of Forastero to save his cousin, who defeats Stigma moments later. That puts Sansón & Blue Panther 2 on 4, but they eventually beat the four on the other side to finish against each other. Along the way, Sansón steals a pin on Star Jr. from Blue Panther when Panther sets up for a moonsault. Sanson later attacked Blue Panther as he is about finish off Esfinge. Forastero does the same to Esfinge as he’s about to beat Sansón. The match turned into a two on one with just Blue Panther Jr. left, which at least made more sense than the usual odd three way at the end of a cibernetico. The Dinamtias grabbed and argued with Tirantes for not counting fast enough, Panther surprised Forastero with a cradle, and Tirantes count really fast (and ignored a kick out, which appeared to be playing off the bit.

around and around

Tiger claimed all the predictions had Luciferno defeating Guerrero Maya. He seemed to be doing a bit.

There’s no opening whistle for the first match because the regular rig announcers are elsewhere (doing a Boing ad?) and the TV announced don’t realize they’re supposed to blow a whistle or don’t have one. It would be embarrassing if anyone cared about such things. Pompin eventually shrugs and tells them to start fighting. Flyer and Robin wore matching outfits, as they occasionally do when they team.

Thoughts: 

Stigma Brillo Dorada

The main event was very much on the short side for this situation, but they worked at a super fast pace and everyone gelled. Volador, Dragon Lee and Carístico looked like a well coordinated regular unit, and the rudos worked really hard. Mascara tries a bit harder when he’s in a Friday main event rather than in a random Puebla match with Rush. Carístico & Volador did a bunch of teamwork spots for two guys who weren’t getting along so much a few weeks ago, but it worked out fine.

Diamante Azul attempted to destroy Sam Adonis’ flag before the match, which set of an early brawl.

There wasn’t much to the semimain, mostly just yet another Diamante Azul/Pierroth feuding match with the rest sprinkled in. Mr. Niebla is looking bigger than ever.

Both this week’s Copa Junior and this one are rated about the same, but last week’s was clearly more exciting. This one had more of a story with Forastero & Sansón getting along, which did more to get over their partnership as a concept than it did for this match. Blue Panther Jr. seemed like he was out of gas and never really stood out, just happened to be the técnico who survived until the end and could’ve just as easily been replaced by one of the others. Sansón looked good, Forastero really didn’t get much to do. Magnus & Artillero looked good in the only real important match they might get in CMLL this year, though they were eliminated so early that I’m not sure things like Magnus’ crazy senton to the floor stuck around. Star Jr. also had a nice night.

Star Jr. Asai tornillo

Maya & Luciferno had some good spots but arranged in no particular order. The big dives are two minutes in and then they just kind of trade moves after that part. It’s very forgettable.

The técnicos looked good in the segunda – Fuego & Cometa are among the best CMLL has at pulling in a crowd, especially the casual fans. It just was’nt all that much interesting of the match, and stuff like going for the triple dive and then just pulling up came off awkward. They built the match up in the last few minutes but this is an easy skip.

The opener was about usual for the that level, maybe a little better.. It’s impossible to take an opening match team seriously in CMLL, but the técnicos tried heard to get over the concept and worked well together. Of course they lost. Their opponents didn’t offer all that much. Espanto had Flyer beat after tossing him onto the barricade in the first fall, but drug him back in to do a running powerbomb anyway. He doesn’t seem to have much sense.

that’s a lot to lift

Demus on leaving CMLL, Caristico/UG in Puebla, Niebla Roja to have issues with his partners tonight

CMLL (MON) 04/24/2017 Arena Puebla [CMLL, Efekto, El Popular]
1) Lestat, París, Zaeta Roja b El Malayo, Guerrero Espacial, Sombra Diabólika LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Amapola, Tiffany, Zeuxis b La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudas took 2/3. Zexuis submitted Sugehit for the win.
3) Esfinge, Fuego, Soberano Jr. b Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 2/3
4) Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla b Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Titán LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
5) Atlantis, Carístico, Volador Jr. b La Máscara, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE ABRIL DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 1/3. Caristico beat UG to set up a title match next week.

I haven’t seen this show yet. It sounds like it was OK.

Even CMLL knows tonight’s main event may be a disaster. Their preview wonders if tonight will be the start of a debacle for the Guerreros. Niebla Roja once again teams up with his Guerrero partners, and like will once again refuse to get along with them. The only good thing for him is it really hasn’t heard his win/loss record, beating Dragon Lee before and facing him, Mistico and Valiente tonight.

Not much going on the rest of the show. Angel de Oro, Blue Panther and Johnny Idol face Gran Guerrero, Luciferno, Mephisto and Bucanero, Terrible & Vangellys take on Drone, Esfinge and Guerrero Maya in two randomly set trios. The Panther versus Sagrado in a lightning match is the best looking match of the night. The first two matches are skippable as ever, with some good tecnicos and five rudos who aren’t that interesting. The show started at 7:30pm, and will air on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

Diamante Azul vs Rush will take place tonight in Arena Coliseo Guadalajara.

CMLL changed Cholo & Camorra to Inquisidor & Apocalipsis on Saturday. They’re all the same and you won’t see more than a few pictures from the match anyway.

SoloWrestling interviewed Demus about his CMLL exit. He does not want to say anything bad about CMLL, but felt limited in his role wrestling just in the first couple matches, didn’t see that changing, and was having a lot more success and a lot more freedom wrestling on the indies. He fought guys of various sizes on the indies so he thinks he can keep doing that. Demus noticed that he was taller than Super Astro, who didn’t wrestle as a mini, and though it made no sense for him to be a mini. Demus reiterated his belief that CMLL should just get rid of the minis division, throw everyone into the main division, and see who can make it. Demus likes Astrolux, but believes he should go with a promotion to make sure he gets regular work at his age, and thinks that’s very important for development. Demus is critical of CMLL’s school, saying it’s sad that people CMLL trained end up as successes for other companies (Penta, Fenix, Flamita, Golden Magic mentioned) and feels the school is more to make money of students than to give them opportunities. Demus is opening to working anywhere, and brings up Lucha Underground and Impact as places he’d like to get in, or any American company on a short term basis.

AAA has an interview with Ricky Marvin, who seems to be setting up the OGT vs Marvin/Parka/Argenis trios match listed on the Juarez card.

Ciclon Ramirez Jr. is fine; he mentioned on Facebook that he didn’t have his phone on a 18 hour bus trip, so he was just out of contact for a while. (Then deleted or turned the post into private, but Yago mentions it here.)

This week’s Estrellas de Lucha Libre (CMLL’s in house magaine/program) is all about the mascots.

The Crash’s 05/30 show in Queretaro will include Rey Mysterio, Penta, Daga, Garza, Damian 666, Bestia 666, Black Taurus and Keira.

 

RobViper has highlights of 09/14/16 Elite.

LuchaWorld has an Poster-Mania for Kid’s Day weekend and an interview with Dr. Cerebro.

Lineups

CMLL (MON) 05/01/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Centella Roja & El Hijo De Centella Roja vs Fuerza Chicana & Guerrero Espacial
2) Arkalis, Black Tiger, Príncipe Diamante vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Nitro, Toro Bill Jr.
3) Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa, Rey Samuray vs Misterioso Jr., Policeman, Sangre Azteca
4) Atlantis, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs La Máscara, Mr. Niebla, Pierroth
5) Máximo Sexy, Mistico, Negro Casas vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Volador Jr. [Relevos Increíbles]
6) Último Guerrero © vs Carístico [NWA MIDDLE]
12th defense

It’s UG in a title match and Caristico in CMLL, so a title change is heavily unlikely but they should be good against each other. Caristico did beat Guerrero last time in Arena Mexico and last time in Arena Puebla, but nothing was really on the line.

Incredible partners match seems like it’s just to do an incredible partners match, but they could set up something out of it. Note Ephesto is listed again, but they may not know if he’s officially back yet. The undercard has no stand out matches and some that don’t look great.

MDA Lucha Memes (SUN) 05/07/2017 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Mini Hator vs Mini Difunto [Nuevo Leon MINI WELTER]
2) Hijo de LA Park vs Galactar
3) Ángel de Oro vs Rey Horuz
4) Caifan vs Rey Escorpión (Elite)
5) Octagón vs Fuerza Guerrera
6) Xtreme Tiger vs Dragón Lee (CMLL)
7) Último Guerrero vs LA Park © [XWW UNIVERSAL]
first defense
8) Masada (Texas) vs Rush [cage]

Ultimo Guerrero/LA Park was added as the last match on Monday night. Card order is my guess. They really loaded that card up in the last few matches. There’s no announced plans to air or upload this anywhere. The XWW is a title Park won on a Xalapa show in 2015.

Super Astro (WED) 05/24/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Demasiado & Diva Salvaje vs Black Dragón & Demonio Infernal
2) Diamante (Elite), Imposible, Metaleón vs Ciclón Ramírez Jr., El Bandido, Emperador Azteca
3) Hijo de Máscara Sagrada, Keyra, La Parkita vs Demus 3:16, Rossy Moreno, Samoano
4) Golden Magic, Laredo Kid, Rey Horus, Súper Astro Jr. vs Flamita, Jack Evans, Ninja Jr., Xtreme Tiger
5) Daga, Garza Jr., Rey Fénix (US) vs Hijo De Dos Caras, Hijo de LA Park, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr.
6) Cibernético, Silver King, Súper Astro vs Bestia 666, Damián 666, Nicho el Millionario
7) LA Park & Rey Escorpión (Elite) vs Penta 0M & Zorro

This is a show to celebrate Super Astro’s new location having it’s first anniversary – though Naucalpan is nowhere near the restaurant and you don’t usually need a overloaded card for a restaurant celebration. (They could lop off the last three matches and still have a decent card.) Tickets are 400 pesos for ringside, just under the 450 price for the last AAA TV taping here, but more than this Friday’s Lucha Memes show. The Memes card is better to me, person who likes singles matches over meaningless trios matches, but maybe not to everyone.

new lucha videos for the weekend of April 21st, 2017

YouTube Playlist

For reasons of randomness, the Televisa Guadalajara feed aired the first match of the Martes show before cutting off the feed very into the second match.

CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-04-21
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-04-21 @ Arena México
1) Flyer & Robin vs Canelo Casas & Espanto Jr.
2) Drone, Fuego, Rey Cometa vs Nitro, Raziel, Virus
3) Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Luciferno in a lightning match
4) Blue Panther Jr. vs Esfinge, Magnus, Stigma, Star Jr., Sansón, Forastero, Artillero [Copa Junior Nuevos Valores]
5) Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Mr. Niebla, Pierroth, Sam Adonis
6) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, La Máscara, Negro Casas

AAA on Televisa: 2017-04-22
Cloud Drive
taped 2017-04-12 @ Domo de San Luis, San Luis Potosí, San Luis Potosí
1) Concord, Hijo Del Vikingo, Octagoncito vs Bronco González, Guerrero De Plata, Mini Abismo Negro
2) Lanzeloth, Máscara de Bronce, Venum vs Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly
3) Argenis, Ayako Hamada, Hijo del Fantasma vs Johnny Mundo, Kevin Kross, Taya [no dq]

CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-04-22
taped 2017-04-18 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Marcela, Sanely, Silueta vs Dalys, Metálica, Tiffany
(other matches were cut off)

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-04-24
taped 2017-04-23 @ Arena Naucalpan
Cloud Drive
1) Black Dragón, Bobby Lee Jr., Hijo del Alebrije vs Avisman, El Hijo del Diablo, Picudo Jr.
2) Imposible vs Emperador Azteca
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Cerebro Negro, Demonio Infernal, Eterno, Hijo de Pirata Morgan
4) Trauma I & Trauma II vs Black Terry & Diablo Jr. © for the IWRG Intercontinental Tag Team Championship

Terry/Diablo defeat Traumas, Daga, Puebla preview

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG (SUN) 04/23/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
1) Keiser Drago b Signo Arkano
2) Aramis & Kanon b Atomic Star & Lunatik Xtreme
3) Pantera I b Hip Hop Man
4) Avisman, El Hijo del Diablo, Picudo Jr. b Black Dragón, Bobby Lee Jr., Hijo del Alebrije
Diablo & Dragon set up a singles match
5) Imposible b Emperador Azteca
Azteca complained he kicked out at two, and wants a trios title match or mask match with Imposible
6) Cerebro Negro, Demonio Infernal, Eterno, Hijo de Pirata Morgan b Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo
Eterno caused the Ninja Turtles to mess up and took advantage for the win.
7) Black Terry & Diablo Jr. © b Trauma I & Trauma II [IWRG IC TAG]
Second defense. Terry asked for a shot at the trios titles held by the Navarros. The Traumas pointed out Terry doesn’t have a third man but he can get a shot if he can find someone to team with them.

It’s a regular show tonight in Puebla, with nothing following up from last week and some matches that might be good but nothing a sure bet. Caristico, Volador and Atlantis team up in the main event with Mascara, Negro Casas and Ultimo Guerrero. Titan, Johnny Idol and Angel de Oro face the Peste Negra trio of Felino, Mr. Niebla and Cavernario. The Cancerberos are actually in a trios match together for the first time this year (first time since August, really.) Esfinge, Fuego and Soberano are their opponents. Sugehit & Zeuxis are on the opposite sides of a women’s trios, which is bound to keep happening since there’s only about twelve luchadoras. Jarochita, Sanely, Amapola and Tiffany are scheduled to fill out the match. The only locals match tonight is the opener, with Lestat, Paris and Zaeta Roja against el Malayo, Guerrero Espacial and Sombra Diabolica.

I went to AAW’s show in LaSalle this Saturday to see Daga’s debut for the promotion. I figured, if you write on the internet a lot of times that people should book a dude, you probably should pay money to see the dude wrestle when someone finally does book him. (My photos turned up here.) Daga did well – it was helped by Elgin giving him much more than I would’ve expected, and there were about two things that didn’t go quite right, but it was an one of those matches that just keep going and keep getting bigger. Daga won over a crowd that was there didn’t really know him and knew Elgin, splitting the crowd by the end. Even the Hispanic families that I usually see when Pentagon & Fenix are around weren’t as much around this one; Daga went in front of an unfamiliar fanbase and got them asking him to come back. He’ll be back. That match and the main event, a time limit draw with Fenix/AR Fox and OI4k ts are worth checking out the show alone, plus there was some good stuff in the undercard.

CultIcon previews this show. It will air at 9pm on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

Black Terry Jr. also has photos of Sunday’s ChilangaMask Anniversary show.

Roberto Figueroa talks about his Llaves y Candados promotion, makes the claim that wrestling in Arena Coliseo Monterrey would be dead if not for those celebrity matches re-energizing shows.

Friends are looking for information on Ciclon Ramirez Jr., who hasn’t been heard from in a few days.

Box Y Lucha #3280 has cover stories on Fishman and Joaquin Roldan.

The Santos are headed to Puerto Rico sometime soon.

There’s a cool gallery of created lucha libre posters here.

Lineups

IWRG FILL (WED) 04/26/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Keshin Black, Vardeus, Voltar vs Fly Tiger, Guerrero 2000, Keshin Black
2) Ángel Oriental, Blue Monsther, Kesier Drago vs Atomic Star, Lunatik Xtreme, Power Bull
3) Hijo del Alebrije, Mike, Teelo vs Picudo Jr., Skanda, Vórtize
4) Acero, Alas de Acero, Aramis, Black Dragón, Demonio Infernal, Diablo Jr., Kanon, Shadow Boy vs Black Laser, Climax Jr., Hijo Del Villano III, Kortiz, Máquina Infernal, Tackle, Villano III Jr., Zhalon [Torneo Fill]
Torneo FILL 58, Gym FILL (Black Terry) vs Gym Villanos (listed as Villano III, though it’s Villano IV who’s pictured)

Midweek shows returns! Only four matches this time. Villano IV would make more sense, since he’s wrestling in Naucalpan. I feel like Climax Jr. has shown up on three or four different teams over the years.

Keshin Black really is listed on both sides of the opener.

LU at C2E2, ChilangaMask Anniversary show, Sexy Dulce wins boxing debut

photo by CMLL

CMLL (SAT) 04/22/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Shockercito & Stukita b Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia
2) Fuego, Pegasso, Soberano Jr. b Disturbio, Sangre Azteca, Templario
tecnicos took 1/3.
3) Dalys © b Estrellita [CMLL WOMEN]
Dalys took 1/3 to keep the title. 9th defense. Esterllita’s 3rd challenge
4) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Guerrero Maya Jr. DQ Máscara Año 2000, Sam Adonis, Vangellys
straight falls, Sam Adonis fouled Blue Panther.
5) Atlantis, Carístico, Marco Corleone b Gran Guerrero, Kráneo, Mephisto
tecnicos took 2/3

Fan photos showed CMLL installed a video screen in Arena Coliseo sometime recently, though it’s possible it was just a one time thing for a private show/sponsor event this weekend.

CMLL (SUN) 04/23/2017 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Camorra & Cholo b Fiero & Magia Blanca
Fiero and Cholo replaced Sangre Imperial & Templario on Tuesday. Billed as Fiero’s debut. (Fiero wrestled here back in July.)
2) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Skadi b Amapola, La Seductora, Tiffany
Amapola replaced Metalica. Tecnicas took 1/3.
3) Drone, Fuego, Rey Cometa b Metálico, Puma, Tiger
tecnicos took 2/3
4) Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. b Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
5) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy b Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys

Doesn’t seem like there was anything of note on this one.

 

Chilanga Mask (SUN) 04/23/2017 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México [+LuchaTV, MedioTiempo]
1) Niño De Cobre b Jerry Calavera, Diablo Jr., Inmortal, Glenn Calavera, Novasonic
The Hermanos Calaveras replaced Freelance and Ryan Kidd. Nino de Cobre (who appears to be trying to switch to simply Cobre) beat Diablo Jr. Good match.
2) Fly Star b Shiryu Dragón, Maldito Jr., Caifan III, Terremoto Negro
no Fly Star, so they worked a five way instead of a trios. Fly Star beat Dragon.
3) Centvrión, Dragón Fly, Impulso b Lokillo, Mr. Leo, Próximo (Baja California)
good match, money thrown in
4) Aero Boy b Bestia 666
Bestia 666 replaced Dave Crist
5) The Platino L Solar I, Makabre, Trauma I, Trauma II, Black Terry, Mr. Maldito [ruleta de la muerte]
in a surprise, Trauma II took the mask of The Platino. (Most seemed to guess Makabre was losing.) Platino is Oscar René Castillo Castellanos, 39 years old, 18 years a luchador, from Tijuana. Bloody match.
6) Hanson & Raymond Rowe b Extreme Tiger & Rey Fénix (US)
merging of two announced matches (Rowe/Hanson and Tiger/Fenix). Very good match.
7) Miedo Extremo b Masada (Texas), Wotan
Muedo defeated Masada

 

Big turnout for the show, and the matches sound like they went well. Dave Crist missing the show sounds like it wasn’t his fault. Freelance was double booked. Not sure about the rest. War Machine versus Fenix/Tiger sounds like a more appealing and a better special match than the two singles matches.

I attended the Lucha Underground panel at C2E2. It was the last panel of the last day in the big panel hall of the convention, and they had a good turnout. They also had Pentagon stand ups around the building promoting the May 31st return. It got me to thinking that it probably cost as much for them to participate on this show as it would’ve around WrestleMania weekend, but being at a comic/entertainment expo is kind of their play: they’re taking for granted they’re going to get a certain portion of the wrestling audience but are hoping the untapped growth is coming from people who might attend something like C2E2. (Still, maybe they could’ve done both, not giving in on that.) The infernal “TV show vs Wrestling show” question came up, and Van Wagenen broke kayfabe to explain it’s kind of just a marketing show – conventional wrestling shows haven’t been on Netflix, but sci fi/reality/action shows are and now they are too. It’s a distinction meant to sway content gatekeepers, with how it changes how they approach the show a bit secondary.

This late slot didn’t seem great for casual or potential people – it’s a long weekend, there was a line of people going as long as people coming when I turned up early afternoon – but there were definitely people giving the show and presentation a chance just to get away from the convention floors. There were also a lot of people very enthusiastic about the show and the wrestlers and wrestling in general; these are two distinct audiences, but two with some significant overlap.

The presentation was preceded by El Rey president Daniel Tibbets promoting the new shows coming to El Rey. Last week’s minor wondering aloud (and every other one) about maybe LU not coming back was dumb because things like this. The reason we’re not getting Lucha Underground right now, the reason why everything is a little screwed up, is because LU is the sun the rest of El Rey orbits around right now. El Rey needs LU to shine whatever light it has on these three new shows Tibbets was pitching to a mildly interested audience, because LU is the only thing El Rey can call a success right now. (LU’s numbers aren’t much compared to WWE, but WWE’s only getting just above USA’s average. LU was getting 2-3x’s El Rey’s network average. It may not be a big deal in wrestling, but it’s a big deal in El Rey.) If El Rey can build new shows off what they’re getting off LU, then LU’s importance to the network only grows. If they can’t, it’s may still be the only thing LU has going and they’ll try to find other shows to work with it. El Rey’s going to continue to want to carry LU as long as El Rey itself exists as a concept.

The panel didn’t break much news, but these panels are never really about that. They did show yet to air clips. We got to see a meeting of Son of Havoc and the debuting Son of Madness, a similarly dressed but bigger character, who have some past association I didn’t completely understand. (This is the bar vignette with two “Sons of Havoc” shown way back in the trailer.) We also saw about three or four minutes of the first episode of part two, which was officially confirmed to be the All Night Long match between Johnny Mundo and the Mack, all the way to the first pinfall and what appeared to be the first break.

I wrote a lot (too much?) about the panel as it was going on. You can read it here. I was struck about how Rey Misterio’s obviously a key part to all of this, and Rey probably wouldn’t be at all involved if not for Konnan getting him to a show and now Konnan’s specifically one of their biggest enemies. Pentagon and Fenix were namedropped by Dorian in normal bits talking about people coming from different places on the show and people who’ve done on the show; if you’re not someone who follows sites like this, you’d have no idea there’s any issues there (and maybe there aren’t.) Most of the questions were to the wrestlers, but Dorian was asked about Season 4 and jokingly said El Rey’s Tibbets should come back out and answer that. Dorian seemed pretty confident a deal was going to get done and soon. (I don’t what “soon” means but, the way he said it, it’s even possible they could announce a pickup around the May 31st renewal.) Dorian was more evasive and roundabout when asked about a LU video game, ending with the “we’re working on it” conclusion that usually means they are working on it but nothing is particularly close. I know people want a grand full featured wrestling video game, but I think LU fans would gobble up even something as simple as a decent low priced phone app game – even if it wasn’t wrestling, like Aerostar in a space shooter or something random. (A Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles style arcade side scrolling beat ’em up arcade game is my personal dream.) LU fans just want to interact with these characters even beyond the game.

Sexy Star/Dulce Garcia won her boxing debut, a four round unanimous decision. You can see the fight here. I’m uneducated on boxing but it didn’t seem like a fight Sexy barely won – not that she was ever in being danger of knocked out or even knocked down, but she also didn’t look that much better than a woman with a poor record. (On the other hand, that women didn’t bother to come to the center of the ring for the announcement; she didn’t think she was going to get her arm raised.) Garcia’s mentioned a goal of winning a title in boxing, and every indication is she’ll keep on fighting.

The local promoter for AAA’s Verano de Escandalo in Ciudad Juarez is hyping these four matches:

  • Dr. Wagner Jr., Soul Rocker, Psycho Clown, Murder Clown, Carta Brava Jr., Monster Clown, one person loses their mask
  • Pimpinela vs Mamba, hair vs hair
  • Drago, Aerostar, Bengala vs Lanzelot, Australian Suicide, Mascara de Bronce
  • La Parka, Argenis, Ricky Marvin vs Averno, Chessman, Super Fly

There’s more matches to come, and what AAA announced obviously has not been equaling what actually will take place. Those matches do generally match the ideas being presented on TV. The Traidor Clowns haven’t been in the mask feud yet (they’ve been in the tag feud), but it’s reasonable they might get involved. Argenis makes sense as the third tecnico to face OGT. Pimpinela and Mamba have been lightly feuding. I suspect it’ll still change more – some of the teams who threw challenges for the tag titles are listed in other matches – but it’s a starting point.

MDA in Arena Coliseo Monterrey on 05/07

That card got much more interesting in the last few matches.

Cibernetico says Elite will (now) return at the end of May. Wait for someone to actually announce a card before you believe it.

RCH returns with their 5th Anniversary show on 06/02 in Arena Naucalpan. Cibernetico vs Tinieblas vs Rayo de Jalisco is the main event, something that sounds like it may draw well but will be a struggle in the ring.

X-Torm and Zarco talk about why their mask match moved from one Tijuana indie promotion to another (though they don’t seem to agree on anything but Evolution Lucha Libre is going to be running for the moment.)

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

AAA has this week’s TV episode up.

Matt Farmer has lineups and results from 1978.

Lineups

CMLL (FRI) 04/28/2017 Arena México
1) Eléctrico & Fantasy vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Dalys, Marcela, Zeuxis vs Estrellita, Metálica, Sanely [Relevos Increíbles]
3) Soberano Jr. vs Sansón [Copa Junior Nuevo Valores, final]
4) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Valiente vs Hechicero, Kráneo, Ripper
5) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico vs Cavernario, Mephisto, Negro Casas
6) Volador Jr. vs La Máscara

Hechicero works a meaningless trio instead of Sabre, so it goes. More appalling to me, CMLL probably knew they were doing Volador/Mascara or something similar here for a few weeks and didn’t really do more than a faked foul to set it up.

No idea why they’re doing a relevos increible match with the women. Might just be something differnet to do something different.

CMLL (SAT) 04/29/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala & Sensei vs Camorra & Cholo
2) Astral, Sangre Imperial, Star Jr. vs Cancerbero, Disturbio, Raziel
3) La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Marcela vs Amapola, Reyna Isis, Tiffany
4) Blue Panther, Johnny Idol, Titán vs Luciferno, Mephisto, Sam Adonis
5) Diamante Azul, Dragón Lee, Volador Jr. vs Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys

A show, and one with no random rookie this week.

CMLL (SUN) 04/30/2017 Arena México
1) Leono & Príncipe Diamante vs Cholo & Espíritu Negro
2) Pegasso & Starman vs Hijo del Signo & Metálico
3) Drone, Esfinge, Fuego vs Hechicero, Misterioso Jr., Virus
4) El Gallito & Microman vs El Perico Zakarías & Mije
5) Atlantis, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
6) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero

It’s really happening. Fourth from the top because CMLL is weird. Also, the segunda is a tag, so does that means each mascot is getting half pay? I dunno.

Main event has both Niebla Roja vs Dragon Lee and Niebla Roja vs his own teammates.

CMLL (SUN) 04/30/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Capitán Cobra & Micro vs Destello & Guerrero de la Muerte
2) Fantástico, Johnny Dinamo, Tigre Blanco vs Carlo Roggi, Linterna, Mr. Apolo
3) Black Sugar, El Divino, Nautilius vs Gran Kenut, Mr. Trueno, Thunder Boy
4) Star Black vs Rey Trueno
5) Flash II, Metatrón, Vaquero Jr. vs Joker, Pitbull I, Pitbull II

Reminder that Star Black is the young upcoming guy in Guadalajara. Never a sure thing about anyone making the jump to Mexico City, but that’s what the singles match is about.

Poder del Norte & Taya are new champs (04/21 AAA TV results from Tijuana)

AAA

AAA TV (FRI) 04/21/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California [AAA, El Tijuanese]
0) El Hijo del Medico Asesino & Fantastik b Clásico & Enigma
dark/locals match
1) Monsther Clown & Murder Clown b El Mesías & Pagano
Traidor clowns won after Scoria & Cuervo cost Mesias & Pagano the match
2) Ricky Marvin b Chessman
Ricky Marvin came out in an OGT shirt to face no clear opponents, when Averno & Chessman confronted him. This set up Ricky/Chessman, and Ricky won with La Parka countering Averno.
3) Ayako Hamada © b Taya [Reina De Reinas, street]
A street fight, with Taya bleeding. Said to be a very good match. Ayako falls on first defense and needed medical attention after the match. Taya is now a two time champion.
4) Aerostar & Drago b Killshot & Marty The Moth
Lucha Underground match. Shane Strickland was announced as Killshot but wrestling unmasked in his Shane Strickland gear. Aerostar pinned Killshot for the win.
5) Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria © b Australian Suicide & Bengala [AAA TAG]
unannounced title match. First defense for Cuervo & Scoria. Suicide & Bengala, Pagano & Mesias and Aerostar & Drago all wanted to get at the champions after the match.
6) Kevin Kross b Hijo del Fantasma [tables]
Prior to the match, Texano came out to announce his neck injury is no longer serious, but it’ll be a while before he returns to the ring. He seconded Fantasma in the next match and was taken out. Kross put Fantasma thru a table (though Kross speared thru a table himself earlier.)
7) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker b Dr. Wagner Jr., Faby Apache, Psycho Clown © [AAA TRIOS]
Nuevo Poder del Norte demanded a trios title shot. Faby brought out Wagner & Psycho as the other members of her team (instead of her sister and father.) Taya attacked Faby with a chair to give the rudos the win. Faby falls on her first defense.

Air Date: 05/06 & 05/13, likely.

They honored Joaquin Roldan prior to the show.

I’ll write the same things I write every time now: They filled the building, that’s good. They advertised a Psycho Clown/Dr. Wagner match and didn’t deliver and that seems dangerous towards TripleMania but maybe they’ll get away with it. They changed most of the card and fans should not take AAA lineups seriously at this point, though they still might end up with a better card. (This show had 2 titles matches advertised, ended up with 3, hope EMW didn’t spend money on a belt that’s never going to be used.)

Vampiro says Taya/Ayako was one of the top five matches of all time. People there thought pretty highly of the match as the match of the night. Taya coming back at the end to get Faby seems to point in that direction, but AAA spend two years not doing that match so it also could just be a return to the old nothing happening status quo. (There is a five way women’s match on the next show that could double as a #1 contenders match, if it happens at all.) Ayako’s not listed on any shows going forward, so it’s possible this was it for her. If it was, and at least AAA made heavy use of Ayako was she was around, a nice improvement from previous short guests. If she’s sticking around, maybe there’s more good matches to come.

The trios title stuff is all bizarre looking, but probably about what they had planned. The OGT had to lose the belts quick because they were splitting Ricky out of the group, Poder del Norte needs whatever credibility they can get from winning them, and it made the most sense to use the Apaches in between so they could get the big win if that feud is being dropped. They may have actually hoped to have Mary & Apache involved – Mary’s injury was a last minute thing, no one’s saying what the deal is with the father (a very troubling sign given history of ill people stops talking about) – but Wagner & Psycho fit with the more important story they’ll telling.

The Texano thing is hard to predict. This could be Texano doing a heroic return from injury to go after Mundo, or it could be Texano faking a neck injury to betray Fantasma and join Mundo/Taya/Kross. Texano is actually healthy enough to be in the ring, he wrestled last Friday in Naucalpan, so he should really be fine for whatever they’re setting up.

Verano de Escandalo looking like

  • Dr. Wagner Jr. & Psycho Clown vs Carta Brava Jr. & Soul Rocker in some sort of apuesta match
  • maybe Mamba vs Pimpinela in a hair match
  • maybe Mundo/Kross vs Texano/Fantasma
  • maybe Cuervo/Scoria vs Pagano/Mesias vs Aerostar/Drago vs Suicide/Bengala for the tag titles
  • maybe Chessman, Averno, Super Fly vs La Parka, Ricky Marvin and a third person
  • maybe Faby/Taya/Ayako
  • and one more match

That’s three tapings away. The next show is a week from today, April 29th, in Tlaxcala.

Edit: El Tijuanese’s recap of the show adds the dark match (with promoter Medico Asesino), and includes Monster & Murder among those looking for a tag title shot.