CMLL Puebla: 2016-05-16

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Recapped: 05/16/2016

What happened: Marco Corleone defeated Rush in the main event (though Rush gave away the middle fall with a DQ.) Hijos del Infierno kept the trios titles.

What was good: The main event was the best match on the show, with the two prior make it just past the good line for me.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s YouTube now, and will be on 52MX a couple weeks from now.

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05/29 AAA TV Lineup (Pachuca)

AAA TV (SUN) 05/29/2016 Palenque de la Feria, Pachuca, Hidalgo
1) Atomic Boy, Dinastía, Pimpinela Escarlata, Venum vs Apache, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown, Soul Rocker
2) Faby Apache & Mary Apache vs La Hiedra & Taya
3) Aerostar, Drago, Fénix vs Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin [#1 Contenders, AAA TRIOS]
4) Argenis, Australian Suicide, Bengala vs Damián 666, Halloween, Nicho el Millionario
5) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Texano Jr. vs ? & Hernandez
6) Psycho Clown vs Pentagón Jr. vs Pagano

Air Date:  06/11 & 06/18

AAA has a spot show in the same city two days later. That’s an unusual scheduling choice. I suspect that other show might be quietly rescheduled.

Also, the TV show revealed Verano de Escandalo will take place on 06/19 in Monterrey. That’s a little bit of an interesting choice in venue, since some of the guys in Monterrey AAA might go to for help for local promotion are now doing a podcast with Konnan. Maybe everyone can just work together amicably.

They stopped putting the silhouette that gave away the mystery person! Now maybe just stop doing mystery person? It probably should be Cage or Mesias and it’d be odd for them not to just be listed. Still seems like they’re headed to Wagner/Parka/Texano vs Team Trump, which doesn’t seem like a big match for a PPV main event. (Maybe a six way instead?)

The finish in the third match feels telegraphed by Averno & Chessman already having an opponent for the tag titles. Xinetez/tecnicos should be good the second time. I don’t like La Hiedra’s odds in the second match, or Argenis’ crew in the fourth match.

Pagano probably should be getting a Latin American championship shot by beating Psycho Clown – and Psycho seems like the odd man out by winning his feud with Dr. Wagner, so maybe he’s a long term part of this feud

Other quick AAA notes:

  • the tickets for Puebla 06/03 Lucha World Cup first round are running 220 to 1210 MXPs ($12 to 66 USD). Show listed as starting 8:30pm, which means it’s going to be a very late night.
  • the Mexico 06/05 Lucha World Cup final has a start time of 4pm. That’s early for an AAA show.
  • There’s a nice look back at AAA 1992 posters, as part of a piece writing about the 24th Anniversary of the promotion. Dorian Roldan mentioned to +LuchaTV that AAA is planning for something big for the 25th Anniversary. That’d be a change; there’s no bigger difference between the two promotions than CMLL building it’s whole year to it’s birthday and AAA typically just mentioning their own relatively quietly. (But getting 1992 posters is cool to me.)
  • Edit: Kronosport says Lady Maravilla quit AAA. Her Facebook is mostly friends only, so I don’t see a message saying that but it’s probably there.

It’s unclear if there’s another taping between this show and Verano de Escandalo; it really depends on if they’ll be airing the Lucha World Cup as part of normal TV. It feels like there ought to be another one, because the Verano de Escandalo card doesn’t feel like it’s taken shape much at all, but we’re also a month away from the show in real time. Might as well take one guess at the card:

random mixed tag
random other match
Los Xinetez (c) versus Aerostar, Fenix, Drago for the AAA Trios Championship
Averno & Chessman (c) versus Faby Apache & Mary Apache for the AAA Tag Team Titles
Psycho Clown, Daga, Joe Lider, Pentagon versus Pagano, Nicho, Damian, Halloween
La Parka, Dr. Wagner, Texano Jr. versus Hernandez, Cage, Mesias

Again, it’s missing a big match; it feels more like a TV taping than a major show. Maybe something will happen yet.

05/14 AAA TV Results (Orizaba) – Psycho Clown added to LWC

photo by AAA

AAA TV (SAT) 05/14/2016 Plaza de Toros La Concordia, Orizaba, Veracruz [AAA]
1) Faby Apache, Mary Apache, Pimpinela Escarlata, Venum b Apache, La Hiedra, Lady Shani, Mamba
Unlisted bonus match; may air. Faby & Mary got the win for the team.
2) Monsther Clown & Murder Clown b Daga & Joe Lider
Nicho cost Joe Lider the match, with Murder Clown getting the win.
3) Psycho Clown b Ricky Marvin, Nicho el Millionario, Hijo de Pirata Morgan [Lucha Libre Victoria World Cup qualifier]
Winner joins Pentagon Jr. & Texano on the AAA team. Dropped to the third spot. Psycho Clown came out before the match, asked Marisela to be in the match, and was granted a spot. Nicho beat Pirata and Psycho, and Psycho beat Nicho with help from Daga & Lider. Pagano threatened Psycho after the match.
4) Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Taurus b El Elegido, Garza Jr., Niño Hamburguesa
Taurus beat Hamburguesa with a superplex.
5) Hernandez & Zorro b La Parka & Texano Jr.
The Xinetez attacked Texano at the start of the show, with Zorro saying they were allied with Team Trump. Parka made the save. Hernandez was the mystery person (and presumably part of Team Trump as well.) Texano beat Zorro, but still refused to be friends with La Parka.
6) Averno & Chessman © DQ Argenis & Australian Suicide [AAA TAG]
3rd defense. Rematch from the last taping, which had a controversial DQ. Averno tricked Copetes into DQing Argenis again. Avenro issued an open challenge to any challenger, but was dismissive when Faby & Mary unexpectedly accepted the challenge.
7) Pagano b Psycho Clown [hardcore]
Pagano won with a Spanish Fly thru a table on fire and a heel ref.

Air Date: 05/28 & 06/04

It’d be disingenuous to complain about the results for this taping because it wasn’t like I was all that interested in the lineup either, and they simply did what you’d assume they would do for the show. Even Psycho Clown being added to the World Cup qualifying should’ve been figured out ahead of time, since there was that Record article listing the trio originally in the qualifying match, and the three guys put in the match never really made sense. (It leaves the selection team as Texano, Psycho Clown and Pentagon, as close as they can get to repeating last year’s team with Hijo del Fantasma out of action.)

AAA’s pushing the main even as one of the most impressive matches of the year. The photos and text show it to be what you’d expect from Pagano, and something along the lines of Psycho’s recent matches with Dr. Wagner. Those matches haven’t worked for me and I suspect this won’t be anything different, but AAA seems invested in Pagano to a higher level than most of the people working there, and they might as well let him do his style of match if they’re in on him. I don’t have much issue with the result and it sounds like it might have been the usual heel referee meaningless outcome anyway.

The Twitter live post mentioned the tag match ended in DQ. It’s not mentioned elsewhere, so I’m not quite sure how Averno & Chessman pulled it off. It’s strange to do a match with a confusing DQ, then do a rematch with a DQ, and that’s apparently the end of the feud. (If you can’t beat Argenis, who can you beat?) The Faby/Mary challenge will go fine, could possibly just be a solution for Angelico & Jack being out, and makes sense given they’re treated as so more important than the other woman. That, not intergender, feels like the bigger long term problem here: there’s exactly three women around who are taken seriously, AAA won’t book any of those three women against each other in titles matches (for reasons), and so it’s nothing but meaningless tag matches. It’s no different than the CMLL minis division, except AAA’s women division has people who are actually over (Faby, Taya) so they might as well pull them into places where that overness is useful. It’s good they came up with an idea, but it’s a problem they’ve been unable/unwilling to get anyone other woman over to face them, or to just have them face off.

The pro-intergender message here does fall a little flat in the greater context. It’s hard to make the case Faby & Mary should be able on the same level as the men at the same time as the same promotion is running a tournament where the women (including Faby & Mary) and men are specifically being kept separate from the men.

(Again, I’d guess this is just something to fill a spot for Verano de Escandalo. Maybe, in theory, they’re thinking this as a way to save bigger matches for TripleMania – but since all the regular midcard AAA feuds seem to get pushed to the side for the guest stars at TripleMania, it seems unlikely to be going that way.)

Apache didn’t annoy Venum. Maybe they forgot. Maybe we’ll never know why this is happening. Not sure if there’s four matches one of these weeks, or if they’ll just make on a UTDN/YouTube exclusive.

Next taping is – the next post, actually.

strong Lucha Memes show, FULL, Puebla preview

 

photo by Black Terry Jr.
photo by Black Terry Jr.

FULL (SAT) 05/14/2016 Gimnasio Olímpico Juan de la Barrera, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal [+LuchaTV, Estrellas del Ring]
1) Charly Madrid, Saru, Shadow Boy b Black Rider, Pequeño Black Warrior, Tupac Amaru
Expanded to a trios. The mini on the losing side is sometimes listed as Pequeno Guerrero. It’s definitely a bald Pequeno Black Warrior in his Warrior gear, but maybe trying to avoid using the name.
2) Lady Apache & Reyna Dorada b Ludark Shaitan & Quimera
Quimera replaced Vaquer
3) Ángel Del Amor, Decnnis, Zumbido b Hijo De Luzbel, Hijo del Fishman, Veneno
Hijo de Luzbel replaced Sucesor. Straight falls.
4) Cien Caras Jr., Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Scorpió Jr., Silver Kain bAlan Stone, Hijo De Dos Caras, Hijo de Máscara Sagrada, Huracán Ramírez
5) Grond XXX, LA Park, Súper Porky, Tinieblas Jr. DQ El Hijo del Solitario, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Pirata Morgan, Rey Bucanero
Tinieblas and Solitario are feuded.

This went from two shows to one show to one not well attended show.

Lucha Memes (SUN) 05/15/2016 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), Estrellas del Ring]
1) Freelance b Aramis Freelance vs Aramis | Memes | 15/05/16 (posted by tvluchadelpasado)
bonus match. Money thrown in.
2) Eterno b Tequilita
3) Marcela b Princesa Maya
4) Trauma I & Trauma II b Alberto Dos Rios & Silver Star (Nuevo León) Silver Star y Alberto Dos Rios vs Trauma I y Trauma II | Memes | 15/05/16 (posted by tvluchadelpasado)
good match
5) Hechicero b Virus Virus vs Hechicero | Memes | 15/05/16 (posted by tvluchadelpasado)
great match
6) Caifan b Dr. Cerebro Caifan vs Doctor Cerebro | Memes | 15/05/16 (posted by tvluchadelpasado)
great match

Mexico City defeats Monterrey 3-2. Caifan & Dr. Cerebro talked about a rematch after the main event. That match, Hechicero/Virus and the opener sound like the best matches. There’s a highlight reel of the whole show here.

There’s no full results from the DTU show, but the most notable thing is Jinzo’s changed his name again. He’s going to use Ronnie Mendoza now.

No results from IWRG yet. +LuchaTV posted all the results except the Tortuga Ninja/Comando Elite title match, the cruelest of omissions.

Tonight’s Puebla show (apparently? maybe?) has the end of the Rush versus Marco Corelone feud, since Rush is now busy with La Mascara. Rush and Marco meet in the main event tonight, a rematch from last month in Puebla. It could be a newsworthy show, with the Hijos del Infierno defending the national trios title Angel de Oro, Stigma, and Stuka. Since Mephisto just won a title and Angel de Oro lost one, a title change seems more likely or not to rebalance the belts. (It’s not a great reason to do a title change but it’s the kind of way CMLL does them.)

The undercard has a minis versus Puebla trios, the Batillon taking on Hombre Bala & Star Jr., and Black Tiger & Millenium vs Akuma & Espanto Jr. in the opener. The show starts at the usual 9pm time. I was thinking of not watching the show live because I’m so far behind on other stuff, but this seems like a show tough to skip.

Chilanga Mask returns on 06/05 in Arena Jose Suliaman/Solidaridad
1: Extreme Tiger vs Caifan
2: Makabre vs Shiryu Dragon vs Aeroboy vs Wotan
3: Laredo Kid vs Ultimo Ninja vs Astro

Kato Kung Lee is on the cover of this week’s Box Y Lucha.

An article about the atmosphere of a Tuesday night show in Arena Coliseo Guadalajara.

Laredo Kid will face DJZ on May 28th in Cleveland’s AIW.

NOAH mentions their wrestlers going to the Lucha World Cup.

Alberto says he’s on both WWE tour of Mexico, despite not being listed on the preview picture. Kalisto is doing promotion work for the shows this week, so he’s surely on the tour as well.

Lineups

CMLL (SUN) 05/22/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Tapatío vs Quca
2) El Yaqui & Fugaz vs Carlo Roggi & Exterminador
3) Capitán Cobra, Explosivo, Star Black vs El Gitano, Mr. Brisa, Thunder Boy
4) Gallo & Vaquero Jr. vs Kempo Dragón & Príncipe Kisho
5) Mágico, Nautilius, Omar Brunetti vs Furia Roja, Maléfico, Ráfaga

Missed this one last night. Semimain is a rematch. Exterminador hasn’t been around since the end of last year.