Mascara Dorada vs Mephisto on ClaroSports.com seems like the best bet to be being match of the week. Aerostar, Drago and Fenix vs the new trios champs on the AAA show got good reviews live. And Zeuxis/Silueta on CMLL Tuesday Mexico could be pretty good if they can make it thru in one piece.
Month: February 2016
AAA on Televisa: 2016-02-13
AAA on Televisa: 2016-02-13
taped Auditorio Bentio Juárez, Cuautitlán, Estado de México, 02/06/2016
Recapped: 02/13/2016
What happened: Blue Demon Jr. advanced to the Rey de Reyes final, thanks to Psycho Clown/Dr. Wagner issues. Daga & Taya earned a mixed tag title match. Pentagon Jr. wasn’t angry about his (so called) allies challenging for his titles, but he said he’d beat them. Daga also broke open Suicide’s head.
What was good: I liked the opener and the mixed tag.
Where can I watch it: It’s on my channel and AAA’s channel. Read More
Rey Mysterio signed for LU S3 (& beyond?), Felino vs Super Crazy set, Liga Elite returns
This week’s Wrestling Observer mentions all financial issues between Rey Mysterio and AAA and Mysterio and Lucha Underground have been resolved. They also say their information has Rey Mysterio signed for season 3, with options for two more season after that (unless the deal has been breached in some way – catching up on money takes care of the most obvious breach.) They also say LU would like to produce a movie in 2018. That would both be amazing, perplexing, and something consistent with looking at this show as a scifi/fantasy genre show even more than a wrestling show.
There’s also the usual back and forth about LU finances that doesn’t seem to be going anywhere: Meltzer says Lucha Underground is losing all the money possible, Eric Van Wagenen says no we’re not, we’re in our budget, we don’t learn much. It’s impossible to figure out how LU, on it’s own, is making any money. (Not even turning a profit, just revenue at all.) It also seems to be unaffected by not making money. Both things are weird, but as long as the show goes on, it’s hard to care a lot about it.
Actually, the only thing I got out of this is figuring out how much Dave believes TNA lost in his first ten years.
According to one company source, the amount of money lost thus far is, after two seasons, slightly less than half of what TNA had lost after ten years in business
Dave’s said many, many times that he believes LU S1 lost $20 mil. (Again, LU publically heavily disputes this number every time it comes up.) S2 was less episodes, less tapings, no start up costs. Let’s say $12.5 mil to pick a number. So we can guess TNA lost more than $65 mil in 10 years, and decided to go for year 11! That’s a lot of money. $32 mil is a lot of money! Please, someone feel free to give me some of this money.
Moving on. Even though the money situation has been fixed with AAA and Rey, it’s said he has no return to date to AAA. He might be used on a show on the level of TripleMania, but otherwise the devaluation in the peso makes him too costly to use beyond that. It’s not said but I’d guess this might have been the same situation for Alberto had he not gone back to WWE; he had great foresight to take the WWE deal when he did.
The WON also has news on the AAA US TV show – mostly that it’ll be tough to have a AAA US TV show. Lucha Underground holds the exclusive rights to AAA wrestlers in the US, so AAA TV is a no go unless something changes. The new plan is to be selling the TV to other English speaking countries. The idea is Hugo Savinovich and Chris Cruise doing commentary in AAA’s studios in Mexico, but Konnan can’t because he’s signed to Lucha Underground even though he’s not on the show any more, which makes it hard to figure out how anyone else on LU can be on the AAA show. This doesn’t completely make sense to me how it works.
Elite held a press conference yesterday, though it doesn’t sound like they gave out all their news. The big item was Super Crazy and Felino signing to do a hair match on February 28th, so one of the many feuds they’ve built up since starting these shows in November will have a payoff. Felino, because he’s the regular here, is the favorite to win but he has a weak track record in apuesta matches and isn’t a sure bet by any means.
It sounds like that also may be the last Sunday Elite show for the time being. The Wednesday Elite shows would start that following week and will be a change of days, not a expansion show. Sunday Arena Mexico show would revert back to normal CMLL shows. The Wrestling Observer reports all of this, and says those Sunday shows would air on ClaroSports TV/Titanes en el Ring. That’d probably mean they’ll also be the LATV shows.
Sunday’s a much easier day to draw than Wednesday, a day CMLL hasn’t run in Mexico City for a long time if earlier. (In the old weekly loop of generations past, Wednesday was the show in Arena Coliseo Acapulco, which is why there are Wednesday shows in Acapulco to this day.) However, Sunday’s a much easier day to draw everywhere. Elite seems to be doing well on shows away from Mexico City at least at this moment, and it’d be easier to do more of those if they had Sunday free. Adding another day to the Arena Mexico schedule is over exposes CMLL’s wrestlers more – this would make more sense as replacing the Tuesday shows – but this otherwise makes sense.
Those Wednesday shows will be home to relaunched of the Liga Elite, the confusing league format Elite tried in it’s original incarnation. I’m fairly certain that I was the last person who cared about the standings for that thing, probably also including the people who were participating in the tournament. It seemed entirely unsuccessful, but they’re trying it again. 12 people will be involved, but the names and any format changes haven’t been announced.
The press conference also introduced the Moreno sisters, making challenges. Cinthia mentioned she’s no longer with AAA; her last match there appears to be March 2015. Rossy Moreno is they’re targeting Estrellita. Jinzo & Rocky Lobo also talked about their match against Okumura and Fujin this weekend.
Of note, Arturo Beristain (Hijo del Gladiador) was billed as the Elite Chief of Programming. That’s the public face of match making, and usually the behind the scenes one too. Beristain is a CMLL employee at last check, so the difference between these two groups is minor.
+LuchaTV has a new edition of Esto es Lucha, with Shocker as guest.
In response to an article claiming a show in Ensenada got out of control, the local commission says the show was a “98 or 99% success.” The 1-2% failure had to with the luchadors in the main event (Psycho Clown versus a trio of Rey Misterios) breaking the rules in some unspecified way which seems like crowd brawling. The commission insists they’ll be more careful on the next show in March and the promotion says they’ll hire more security.
DTU announced a return to Arena Aficion on 03/01. Guest luchadors include Shalie Rockstar, Titan, Triton, Fujin and Raijin. The idea of the NJPW kids showing up in DTU brings joy to my dark heart.
Caristico says he has no plans to go back to WWE. That he’d even need to say that makes him sound dumb, but it may be more on whoever asked the question. He says nice things about Rey and Alberto but also says WWE didn’t really want a Mexican to get over. To be fair, it’s sometimes unclear if WWE wants to get anyone over.
LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.
Electroshock wants to win the Rey de Reyes again.
Daga says 2016 will be his year, and he hopes to win a mask (Suicide’s.)
Danger hypes the DTU vs CaraLucha show.
Furia de Titanes has a video with Lady Sensacion.
Tigre Asiatico talks about running the CILL promotion in Chicago for three years.
You can have breakfast with Mil Mascaras on March 19th.
Zao got to the bottom of the Mephsito Pants Mystery. Literally, the bottom.
great match roundup, week of 2016-02-06
I’m all caught up! Except for everything that’s aired since I’ve typed this days ago.
- 02/06 AAA
- 02/08 CMLL.com/Arena Puebla
- 02/09 CMLL.com/Arena Mexico
- 02/10 Lucha Underground 2×3
- 02/12 ClaroSports/Arena Mexico
I’m sure I’m high score on the Guerra de Titanes trios.
rating | matches | TV Show | taped |
great | Australian Suicide, Fireball, Jack Evans vs Daga, Parka Negra, Súper Fly | AAA on Televisa: 2016-02-06 | 2016-01-22 |
great | Fénix vs King Cuerno [last man standing] | Lucha Underground: 2016-02-10 | 2015-11-15 |
good | Ángel de Oro, Titán, Tritón vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto | CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-02-08 | 2016-02-08 |
good | Volador Jr. vs Negro Casas in a lightning match | CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-02-08 | 2016-02-08 |
good | Jack Evans vs Drago | Lucha Underground: 2016-02-10 | 2015-11-15 |
good | Bengala & Robin vs Espíritu Negro & Inquisidor | CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2016-02-12 | 2016-02-12 |
good | Fuego, The Panther, Tritón vs Puma, Tiger, Virus | CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2016-02-12 | 2016-02-12 |
good | Dragón Lee, Guerrero Maya Jr., La Máscara vs Boby Z, Hechicero, Kamaitachi | CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2016-02-12 | 2016-02-12 |
good | Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Mephisto, Negro Casas | CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2016-02-12 | 2016-02-12 |
ok | Dinastía, Niño Hamburguesa, Pimpinela Escarlata vs El Apache, Mamba, Mini Charly Manson | AAA on Televisa: 2016-02-06 | 2016-01-22 |
ok | Electroshock, Garza Jr., La Parka vs Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Zorro and Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Hijo del Fantasma, Taurus for the AAA World Trios Championship | AAA on Televisa: 2016-02-06 | 2016-01-22 |
ok | París & Zaeta Roja vs Guerrero Espacial & Saurón | CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-02-08 | 2016-02-08 |
ok | Black Tiger, Pegasso, Starman vs Fuerza Chicana, Metálico, Policeman | CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-02-08 | 2016-02-08 |
ok | Atlantis, Máscara Dorada, Mistico vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Último Guerrero | CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-02-08 | 2016-02-08 |
ok | Flyer & Leono vs Apocalipsis & Artillero | CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-02-09 | 2016-02-09 |
ok | Súper Halcón Jr. vs Disturbio in a lightning match | CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-02-09 | 2016-02-09 |
ok | Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., Stigma vs El Cuatrero, Sansón, Skándalo | CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-02-09 | 2016-02-09 |
ok | Blue Panther, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys | CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-02-09 | 2016-02-09 |
ok | Valiente vs Euforia in a lightning match | CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2016-02-12 | 2016-02-12 |
ok | Marco Corleone, Máximo, Rush vs Cibernético, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero in a relevos increíbles match | CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2016-02-12 | 2016-02-12 |
below average | Arkalis & Meyer vs Akuma & Espanto Jr. | CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-02-08 | 2016-02-08 |
below average | La Vaquerita, Lluvia, Skadi vs La Comandante, Marcela,Reyna Isis | CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-02-09 | 2016-02-09 |
below average | Delta, Esfinge, Rey Cometa vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado | CMLL Internet Exclusives: 2016-02-09 | 2016-02-09 |
below average | Kobra Moon vs Bengala | Lucha Underground: 2016-02-10 | 2015-11-15 |
Lucha Underground 2×4: Cero Miedo
the matches
Angelico [O], Ivelisse & Son of Havoc b Chavo Guerrero, Mr. Cisco & Cortez Castro [X] (5:55, top rope double stomp, OK)
Cage b Joey Ryan (4:07, screwdriver ok)
Prince Puma b Pentagon Jr. (7:53, bridging escape of a tapatia, great)
the developments
The main event was the big thing. In a back and forth match, Puma survived the package piledirver and was able to bridge out of a double pin on tapatia to get the win. Pentagon had his shoulders down and did not realize it; announcers noted during the match that Pentagon was being too confident and not trying as hard to win as he should. Pentagon attacked the referee because of the decision, but Puma knocked down Pentagon and teased breaking his arm. Puma did not, but made it clear he was coming for Mil Muertes. Of note, Vampiro stood up from the announce desk when Puma was trying to break the arm, but did not get involved.
Everything else seemed to kind of place setting for things happening later on in this season.
Cage defeated the debuting Joey Ryan (who joined PJ Black with a loss in his first match.) Ryan had bragged to his reluctant ally Cortez/Reyes that he’d win in his debut. Ryan did better than you’d figure against The Machine before taking a screwdriver for the loss. Johnny Mundo, who earlier had some awfully familiar words about being disrespected by being put in the opener of Ultima Lucha, tried attacking Cage after the match. Just like last time, it failed and Cage got the better of it. Cage versus Mundo will happen next week.
Angelico, Ivelisse and Son of Havoc earlier won a trios match over the Crew. Ivelisse had demanded an an immediate trios title rematch against the Disciples, only for Catrina to tell her she wasn’t doing automatic title rematches for former champions. However, after winning, it seems like the ex-champs are the most (and only) logical contenders. Chavo blamed his partners for the loss, yelling at them and not realizing Texano Jr. was running into attack all of them until almost too late. Chavo got away with being hit, as he usually does.
In solely out of the ring action, a Rey Mysterio Jr./Dragon Azteca Jr. training session provided the cover for some back story explanation. Mysterio explained Azteca and Dario’s father had met in Mexico long ago, researching the prophecy of the seven tribes. Dario’s father got into the evil side of the prophecy, whatever that is, and using it for sacrificing people. That includes handing over the body of one of his son’s (Matanza) to an evil god. Dragon Azteca and Dario’s father split, but made an agreement that neither man may step on the other’s domain, or they’d die. Dragon Azteca did so last season and did die, so Mysterio understandable is not in a hurry to running back after Dario. However, Rey thinks they get around all of this by reuniting the Seven Tribes. (That was the same thing Aerostar set off to do last episode.)
The show closed with a disoriented and frightened Sexy Star escaping from something in the hallways of the Temple. Willie Mack stopped her, confused at what was going on and who was chasing her. Sexy told Willie “Moth”, but clarified that it was a her and not a him. Sexy pointed in the direction of her chaser, and the last shot of the show was Mack also being scared of whatever they saw.
thoughts
The first part of the episode kind of dragged. They’re pacing out their stories to pay off later, which left of this episode as moving pieces around the board to set up the big plays later. That’s not always a problem, there’s been inconsequential matches on this show which have been really good. (The Crew had the best one of these last year, when they faced Argenis, Super Fly and Aerostar.) Those first two matches just weren’t that good. They weren’t bad, they just served their purpose and that was all.
Angelico came off the best in the trios match, both by his moves and by layout – he’s the only one on his team who didn’t need to make tags. Chavo’s one of the least interesting characters on this show – the announcers spending a few moments in every match saying “you know the Guerreros? He’s a Guerrero!” is an active determent and this point – and he’s also one of the least interesting in-ring guys. RIP Bael.
Maybe the key to winning in your debut is wearing a mask? Joey lost, PJ lost, Jack Evans lost but Kobra Moon won. Considering it was Cage, Ryan did much better than I’d think. I was prepped for a one minute squash. Four minutes isn’t that long, but the expectations made it feel much longer. This feels hypocritical based on what I thought of PJ Black’s debut, but Ryan’s vignettes made him seem much more like a fool, and Cage was laying waste to people a season ago. He did again here, though it was much more trouble than it had been before.
The concept of Joey Ryan is more interesting than the wrestling of Joey Ryan. It’s also the weird storyline issue of Joey Ryan can’t be acknowledged as Joey Ryan, because this character is supposed to be an undercover cop who wasn’t a wrestler before this case, not a well traveled indie wrestler. (Unless the LA Police have a full time undercover indie wrestler.) It’d make more sense from a creative standpoint if he was named other than Joey Ryan, but you don’t get the attention you do when you have the actual Joey Ryan.
The Seven Tribes stuff sometimes comes off as a bit of mystical nonsense. It’s tough to slow down and explain what the deal is (and it’s unclear if they want to do a big explanation at this point), but it also feels like it’s a big pivotal point to this season. Rey laid it as if we have to see the Seven Tribes united before we see Dragon Azteca Jr. (and probably Rey) at the Temple and in the ring, and we don’t even quite know who’s they’re looking for, or that even if it’s a mystery to be solved or just a sort of McGuffin. I feel like I could spend the next paragraph speculating on the 7 Tribes (and may have before I deleted it), but I also feel like maybe me a 2% of the audience care at this point. Which seems like a problem for a central idea on the show.
The main event made the show worth watching. Those two have a longer, better match in them, but this was a fine sub ten minute match as a warmup encounter. I’m not sure if an unfocused Pentagon Jr. was supposed to be part of the story, but the announcers helped the match by bringing it in. (This was a good performance by Vampiro, who seemed not as into the rest of the show.) The match was impressive and the finish was close enough that Pentagon didn’t feel hurt by losing, it was just another amazing athletic display by Puma.
There were small touches that were nice. The Mundo vignette was great and fit with his character, even if you didn’t realize he was reciting Alberto el Patron real life complaints. The Mysterio/Azteca fight was a good way of getting thru the backstory without boring people. Sexy Star & the Mack felt like a scene out of a horror movie, appropriately so for their title match. And, this one really means nothing, but when Catrina was licking the dagger in the opening vignette, it finally occurred to me that she was channeling Angelina Jolie and that idea amused me.
AAA on Televisa: 2016-02-06
Recapped: 02/06/2016
This is Guerra de Titanes part 2, taped 2016-01-22 in Mexico City.
What happened: Cuervo, Scoria and Zorro are the new AAA trios champions. Suicide got another win over Daga. Rey de Reyes was announced for March 11th in Tampico.
What was good: I really liked the Jack/Fenix/Suicide vs Daga/Fly/Parka trios. I could take or leave the rest.
Where can I watch it: It’s on AAA’s channel. Read More