Rush vs Sombra, Cibernetico takes the night off, CMLL on AXS

Rush vs Sombra

AAA MM (THU) 11/12/2015 Gimnasio Universidad Autonoma de Guadalajara, Guadalajara, Jalisco [AAA, Informador]
1) Faby Apache & Octagoncito b La Hiedra & Mini Psycho Clown
2) El Apache, Steve Pain, Súper Fly b Australian Suicide, Drago, Niño Hamburguesa
3) Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown b Gronda II, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Máscara Año 2000 Jr.
Gronda replaced Averno.
4) Averno & Chessman b Electroshock & La Parka
Averno replaced Cibernetico. Hijo del Tirantes helped the rudos in the match, and Averno fouled La Parka for the win. La Parka challenged Averno to a mask versus hair match, and Averno kind of accepted.

Didn’t seem a great turnout for this show, but it is Cibernetico not showing up for the main event that’s the  talking point. Cibernetico made a point of mentioning he was in Ciudad Madero earlier in the day; that’s on the opposite side of Mexico as Guadalajara. (It is where he’s booked tonight, so maybe he’ll make that show.) Averno & Chessman did show up and it doesn’t appear they’re going anywhere at the moment. Cibernetico’s expected to be the surprise wrestler in Arena Mexico on Sunday at this point.

Not sure who would replace Cibernetico – either in Juarez or the Hell Brothers if that unit goes forward. A lot of people who might be used in that role are already in Los Angeles for Lucha Underground (here’s Fenix & Pentagon talking about their RCH tag match there.) There’s already one mystery person in the match, which might have meant to be Dr. Wagner. He and LA Park are advertised in Chilpancingo for the moment. Maybe they’ll just make it a 2v2 tag match. The most surprising outcome would be anyone in AAA publically announcing what the main event will be.

We know what CMLL’s main event will be tonight: Rush versus La Sombra. They’re both saying they’re still friends and will be friends after the match, while CMLL is previewing this as the beginning of an explosion that could tear the Ingobernables apart. This is an exciting match even if there was nothing else going on.

Other stuff is going on! La Sombra did an interview with Azteca about the WWE rumors, saying he’d be open to going there one day and would want to be a star there. Azteca titled this segment “Sombra on the road to going to WWE”, a lot stronger statement than Sombra said. Sombra wasn’t thrilled, clarifying he would like to go to WWE but isn’t going at this moment.

Sombra’s answered sounded a lot like a US indy might say – he didn’t mention WWE he didn’t say yes or no about going, but he said generically positive things. I’m not sure if that actually means anything. The Laredo Kid situation – where he told people was going to NXT, people reported it as if he was signing with NXT and then it turned out just be the tryouts they do – seems to be a data point that people in Mexico have better things to do than know all the minutiae about the process of signing with WWE.  We’re probably overreading into all of this, but the current weirdness of this story is Sombra saying he’d go to WWE if they were interested, WWE saying they’d be interested in Sombra (via WON), and neither of these sides apparently being aware of the other’s thoughts.

The rest of tonight’s CMLL show includes Thunder and Ultimo Guerero continuing their feud. Dragon Lee and Kamiatachi are also in action. The NJPW officials will be at the show (hide your pirated NJPW DVDs, vendors!) and it’s likely they’ll be scouting someone or someones to bring back to their company. That CMLL preview notes the women’s match – Syuri, Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit versus Reyna Isis, Zeuxis and Amapola – is the first Friday night match for Isis.

The show will air on ClaroSports. I have no idea if they’ll block it for outside Mexico. What I have noticed is you can usually find out if it’s blocked or not a few hours ahead of time, when you click the ad on their website. (If it takes you to the CMLL section of videos, you’ve clicked it too soon.) It’s all good if you get the countdown until live, and it’ll stay blocked (unless you work around it) if it says not available in your region. I’ll let you know on Twitter as soon as I know.

If you’re in New York City, the premier of the Lucha Mexico documentary is taking place tonight. Info on the showing is here – they’ll have Shocker and Strong Man as part of a panel discussion – and Vice has a good interview with the directors.

There’s one more option for lucha tonight. CMLL’s taking over AXS’s NJPW show for the night, as World Pro Wrestling covers the final day of FantasticaMania 2015. The show will have Atlantis, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Kota Ibushi, Volador Jr. versus Ultimo Guerrero, Gran Guerrero, Shinsuke Nakamura and Kazuchika Okada as well as Mascara Dorada versus La Sombra. If you haven’t seen that single match yet, or even if you have, it’s worth checking out. It’s a rare time (mostly just outside the Fighting Spirit shows) when CMLL will be broadcast with English announcers.

CMLL has an article hyping the bodybuilding contest, teasing Astral & La Mascara as the battle for the winner and anyone but Dark Angel as the women’s winner since she’s not in CMLL anymore. (Dark Angel showing up and winning anyway would be the greatest thing in the history of this bodybuilding contest.) The contest is 11/25, free tickets and parking, starting at 11:30am. They aired this on Terra last year, and I guess it might show up on YouTube this year.

Dario Cueto will be popping up on El Rey in a couple weekends as part of their Thanksgiving kung fu marathon.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update and CMLL Informa.

RobViper has highlights of the AAA World Cup.

CMLL posted the Skandalo versus Star Jr. lightning match.

DTU’s first match for 11/26 is Dragon Rojo vs Rocky Lobo. All the DTU/CMLL matches are going to look weird. They also announced Negro Navarro & Solar will be on the show.

The full Luchas & Tacos field (12/12 in Deportivo de SME) is Toxin, Latigo, Alas de Acero, Dragon Celta, Magnifico II, Fly Warrior, Baku, and Rocky Lobo. Baku is a new name and appears to be a lucha libre elephant. This is a good idea, we need a wider variety of luchador animals. Hope we get brackets soon.

Segunda Caida reviews Misterioso versus Voaldor in a title match from AAA.

Vice has a story about a lucha libre promotion in the Bronx.

Lineups

AAA ZZINC (FRI) 11/27/2015 Coliseo Yucatan, Mérida, Yucatán
1) Goya Kong, Pimpinela Escarlata, Rey Horus vs Bestia 666, Mamba, Taya
2) Garza Jr., Mr. 450, Sanada vs Daga, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Steve Pain
3) Drago, Hijo De Dos Caras, Speedball vs Magnus (UK), Psicosis I, Willie Mack
4) Angélico, Jack Evans, Prince Puma vs Brian Cage, Chavo Guerrero, Mvp
5) Blue Demon Jr., Dr. Wagner Jr., Rey Mysterio Jr. vs Brodus, Johnny Mundo, Low-Ki

Same lineup in Cancun a day later. No Pentagon or Fenix on these, which makes me feel better about them showing up in Chicago.

2015 watch later catch up, part 2 of ∞

they almost catch him

Matches recapped in this post

  • Eterno vs Chicano , hair vs hair, Arena Naucalpan, 02/01/2015
  • Fuerza Guerrera vs Negro Casas, Arena México, 02/08/2015
  • Atlantis & Extreme Tiger vs Super Crazy & Último Guerrero, Arena México, 02/08/2015
  • Dr. Wagner Jr. & La Sombra vs LA Park & Volador Jr., Arena México, 02/08/2015
  • Black Angel vs Dragón Black and Voltar and Alas de Acero and Aramis, Arena Naucalpan, 02/18/2015
  • Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Avisman, El Hijo del Diablo, Electro Boy, Arena Naucalpan, 04/05/2015

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