Myzteziz doesn’t work in Veracruz, Atlantis gets a another win, Maximo/Terrible

CMLL (SAT) 10/10/2015 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala b Camorra
2) Metálico b Star Jr.
3) Hombre Bala Jr. b Hijo del Signo
4) Sagrado b Tritón
Triton wants a shot at Sagrado and the Arena Coliseo tag team titles but can’t get a win over him.
5) Amapola & Dalys b Princesa Sugehit & Skadi
Skadi replaced Marcela. Rudas won in straight falls.
6) Blue Panther, La Máscara, Máximo b Felino, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys
7) Atlantis b Rey Escorpión
Atlantis won clean with an Atlantida.

The only person to beat Atlantis in a singles match in the last year is, of course, Ultimo Guerrero.

CMLL (SUN) 10/11/2015 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Flyer & Robin b Apocalipsis & Inquisidor
straight falls
2) Demus 3:16 & Mercurio b Eléctrico & Último Dragoncito
Scheduled to be a trios match with Pequeno Olimpico & Fantasy.
3) Delta, Fuego, Rey Cometa b Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
4) Negro Casas b Titán [lightning]
Negro snuck in a foul on Titan.
5) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, La Máscara b Boby Zavala, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
6) Euforia, Terrible, Último Guerrero b Máximo, Rush, Valiente
Terrible beat Maximo to set up a title match next week. Atlantis was listed in Rush’s spot, but it’s Rush in the pictures.

The heavyweight championship doesn’t mean much, but Maximo seems like the most over tecnico. Crowd definitely cheered him over Volador on Friday night. There’s a bit of logic in using him as the main event on a Sunday after a WWE show, though it still doesn’t feel like a big thing.

Mesias replaced Myzteziz last night in Veracruz. They announced he wouldn’t be there at the beginning of the show. It’s unclear if AAA told him not to show up or if he decided not to on his own. AAA hasn’t commented on Myzteziz yet, but it was reasonable to expect they wouldn’t want to do any more business with him. Myzteziz is still be advertised for other shows by local promoters in the next three weeks, which probably means those local promoters also haven’t heard from AAA yet. The Arena Neza group, where Myzteziz is next listed as wrestling on Friday, still was pushing the poster with Myzteziz as the centerpiece on Facebook.

Karlo Colin, in his role as spokesperson for the Lucha Libre Elite shows, talked about Myzteziz’s appearance in Arena Mexico Friday night on Guadalajara’s Super Libre radio show. (Lucha Libre Elite has been promoting the no-promotion-listed Sunday big name indy shows at Arena Coliseo Guadalajara once every month.) Colin was likely part of the process which got Myzteziz into Arena Mexico on Friday and evasive answering questions about it. He only said more surprises are coming and the promotion would have another show in Arena Coliseo Guadalajara soon.

(There’s some irony in Colin being one of the people bringing back Myzteziz to Arena Mexico. Colin, in his other job as part of the Lucha 2000 magazine, made up interviews quoting Myzteziz’s father saying he was saying in CMLL and not going to WWE back when that all happened to try and protect CMLL. Myzteziz and his family were very displeased. Time changes alliances.)

No one’s saying how long this has been in the works, but friend of the site Daniel Gonzalez pointed out some dramatic Myzteziz Twitter messages from mid September which could be read as Myzteziz deciding to making this move.

In the post Arena Mexico interview, Myzteziz blew off his feud with Rey Misterio as one neither man won but he was happy to have done. He said he was looking for his old place in CMLL (again noting no one’s taken it), but did not want the Mistico name. He said he’d be ok facing Mistico II or teaming with him, whatever Mistico II wanted. He mentioned (a little unprompted) Ultimo Guerrero, Negro Casas, Volador Jr. and Atlantis as possible opponents. They’re not even giving away if he’ll be a tecnico or rudo. Slightly interesting the Ingobernables were not on that list.

Arturo Rivera said dumb stuff on Twitter and defended AAA, as he usually does. Boasting about AAA creating stars while others only steal them seems like poor timing when the promotion has been built around ex-US stars Alberto & Mysterio and ex-CMLL star Myzteziz. The thing is Arturo clearly needs to be right about AAA being built around homegrown stars rather soon.

AAA’s had a unfortunate year and that may not be over yet. WWE may be talking to Alberto el Patron about returning. Cageside Seats has all the bits of the story. The quick version is WWE wants to bring back one of it’s former Latino stars to help do better in that demographic, they’ve talked to Carlito but Carlito hasn’t liked the offer, and they’ve probably reached out to Alberto as well. On the face of it, if they’re not offering Carlito enough to return than that offer is probably not good enough to get Alberto either, and Alberto’s previous complaints about the WWE schedule would have to be addressed. Still, WWE is capable of making that kind of deal if they want him bad enough. Alberto himself has said he’s not locked in for season 2 of Lucha Underground. (The fact that no one’s come out and ‘corrected’ that says he was right and probably still hasn’t been locked in.) Myzteziz’s jump to CMLL suggests AAA contracts may not be all that binding either. There’s also been past reports in the WON about at least 1 of the 3 big AAA signings being unhappy with the payouts they’ve been getting. I don’t know which one it was, but the general sense is those deals have not worked out as expected so far. Alberto had much more positive things to say about WWE last time people asked. I’d still be surprised if Alberto left AAA, but it’s not out of the question.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s LuchaWorld.

Lineups

CMLL (SAT) 10/17/2015 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala vs Apocalipsis
2) Magnus vs Inquisidor
3) Starman vs Hijo del Signo
4) The Panther vs Nitro
5) Fuego vs Sangre Azteca
6) Super Porky & Titán vs Kráneo & Ripper
7) Ángel de Oro, Mistico, Valiente vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto

Titan teams with Super Porky a lot. Main event might be best match.

CMLL (SUN) 10/18/2015 Arena México
1) Leono & Metatrón vs Akuma & Camorra
2) Pegasso, Star Jr., Tritón vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Skándalo
would be Skandalo’s first match in nearly a year.
3) Ángel de Oro, Esfinge, Rey Cometa vs Hechicero, Pierroth, Sagrado
4) Blue Panther, Dragon Lee, La Máscara vs Ephesto, Felino, Vangellys
5) Máximo © vs Terrible [CMLL HEAVY]
Maximo’s fourth defense.
6) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Mephisto, Último Guerrero

Sky Team in the main event to help out the title match.

There’s no bigger disparity than Pierroth and Hechicero on the same team. Skandalo’s had many injuries; the last one was a knee injury. He’s also had some false alarm returns from injury.

CMLL (SUN) 10/18/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Avispón Negro Jr. & Meteoro vs Guerrero de la Muerte & Quca
2) El Yaqui & Nube Roja vs El Chakal & Mr. Apolo
3) Furia Roja, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno vs El Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
4) El Divino, Esfinge, Frezzer, Magnum, Neutrón vs Kempo Dragón, Mario Mora, Príncipe Kisho, Relampago (Sinaloa), Terremoto [cibernetico]
Jalisco versus Sinaloa

The Sinaloa guys have been showing up for a couple months, but this is the first sign it’s going anywhere.