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Results
AAA TV (FRI) 12/16/2011 Estadio Hermanos Serdán de Puebla, Puebla
***Guerra de Titanes 2011***
1) Mascarita Divina, Mascarita Dorada, Octagoncito b Mini Chessman, Mini Histeria, Mini Psicosis
Dorada wins in his debut.
2) Sexy Star b Pimpinela Escarlata [lumberjack, Reina De Reinas]
Title change, Konnan interfering
3) Extreme Tiger & Joe Lider b Nicho el Millionario & X-Fly [Mesas Infernales]
Perros went thru tables for the loss.
4) Monster Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown b Chessman, D`Angelo Dinero, Gunner
Murder Clown pinned the Pope.
5) Cibernético, Electroshock, Zorro b La Parka, Octagón, Silver King
Milicia ran in late, Bizarros returned to run them off, and Cibernetico beat Parka.
6) El Mesías b AJ Styles
20 minutes. Mesias won via backcracker and top rope splash. Dorian and Konnan came to the ring (or the apron) to yell at Mesias after the match. Mesias would have to face one more man to get the title shot.
7) El Mesías b Rob Terry
Shorter match. TNA guys ran in post match. Ozz & Cuervo ran in for the save, but were beaten up. Vampiro, returning to the promotion, turned the tide. He talked and talked after the match, setting himself up as new leader of the Infermundo. Joaquin Roldan came to the ring, and he and Vampiro apologized for turning on him last time we saw Vamp.
8) el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Halloween, Héctor Garza b Drago, Fenix, Jack Evans
Perros got the drop on the tecnicos, tecnicos came back with hot moves. Perro bled, thanks to Jack. Garza got the pin on Fenix, but they pushed that this feud wasn’t over.
9) LA Park b Dr. Wagner Jr. [AAA LA]
Wagner III was Wagner’s second, Octagon was LA Park’s. Prior to the match, Toscano came to the ring. He wore a CMLL shirt, was presented as a CMLL wrestler, and declared their wrestlers were better than AAA. Wagner disagreed. LA Park got into to it with Marisela again during the match. Octagon attacked Wagner, so Octagoncito ran out to get him. Park took out Copetes, and Wagner got a few pins with no one around to count. Park fouled Wagner just before another ref came in, but could not get the pin. Park took out that ref too. Park dropped Wagner with a super DDT, but no ref again. Wagner recovered, Octagon attacked him, Wagner took him out, and Park used the distraction to hit Wagner with knucks for the pin and the title. Park was joined by Toscano, Texano, and Mascara Ano 2000 Jr. as psuedo-CMLL faction. They all beat up the Wagners until the Clowns made the save.
CMLL (FRI) 12/16/2011 Arena Mexico
***Sin Piedad, 2011***
1) Demus 3:16 & Pierrothito b Eléctrico & Último Dragoncito
CMLL rudos take 2/3, Demus using his double underhook piledriver to get the win.
2) Dalis la Caribeña, Lady Apache, Marcela DQ Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sugheit, Tiffany
New ruda act loses in straight falls, the last for attacking the ref.
3) Ephesto, Mephisto, Rey Escorpion b Ángel de Oro, Super Porky, Valiente
Super Porky replaced Mascara Dorada, who may have been hurt in GDL on Tuesday. Rudos took the first, tecnicos the second, Mephisto beat Porky to win it.
4) Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Olímpico, Psicosis, Volador Jr. [MEX TRIOS]
Tirantes started as ref, and broke up a Delta pin to set up Volador winning the first fall. Rambo, as commissioner, warned Tirantes. Tirantes kept cheating in the second fall, so he was kicked out. Tecnicos won the second just after Terror Chino arrived to replace him, and the third when Volador ran into the Atlantida. New champs.
5) Marco Corleone, Máximo, Rush b Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero
Tecnicos win a very quick two fall match.
6) Blue Panther DQ Felino [hair]
Referee is Bestia Negra; announcers noted Felino had beaten him for his hair 3 times prior. Felino took a quick first fall, Panther took the second just as quick. Blue Panther tried to martinete, but was stopped and warned by Rambo over the microphone that another try would be a DQ. Later, Felino went for the martiente, Negro ran in to stop him, and the ref DQed Felino. Crowd and Felino were very unhappy. Felino tried to talk his way out of the hair loss, but could not.
CMLL announced Hombre Bala Jr. & Super Halcon will face Rayo Tapatio I & II in a mask match on 01/01. Blue Demon Sr.’s was remembered after the 4th match.
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Let’s see, Panther applied a martinete to Felino last week before their stip match.
Ref for tonights stip match is Bestia Negra who has a history with Felino. Felino goes for martinete and it’s broken up and he’s DQ’d. Is Felino going to be mad at Casas for running in? Or was the ref, who lost his hair to Felino, too quick to DQ Felino as his way of getting revenge for previous losses? Plot makes sense to me. Stip was honored. Not bad.
CMLL certainly delivered on the stip they advertised, but I still think that match, with the way they built it up, and with that finish, probably didn’t win any fans. It opened the door for some potentially interesting stuff, but I doubt they are gonna have a bump in crowd next week with this finish.
@Nikita: You’re right. It won’t spark the next boom at Arena Mexico. But the way it was explained, it made total sense that the ref was quick to DQ Felino based on their history. Does Felino blame the ref? Negro Casas? Both? It’s not the greatest angle in history, but it was thought out, and leads to potential storylines in the future.
When does CMLL ever have a “bump in crowd next week” after a major show? They run the town three times a week, twice in ArMex. By comparison, would AAA “have a bump in crowd next week” if they ran the Puebla baseball stadium weekly?
I think CMLL is finally realizing that they need some kind of storylines.
Debbie Downer here…
Nobody would have known about the Bestia Negra as ref deal unless I hadn’t have jokingly typed it in the chat. JCR mentioned it in passing on the radio show. It was never pushed on TV, never mentioned on the website, never mentioned by Felino in any promo and never pushed by any newspaper building up the show. It was random referee placement combined with JCR being knowledgeable and tossing out a random fact. On the radio show he also mentioned Atlantis teamed with Angel Azteca in the 90’s Lucha Libre boom and perhaps Angel Azteca Jr. is a candidate for a future member of Atlantis’ group. Is that a hint for a future angle? No. That’s JCR being JCR.
You’re reading waaaaaaaaaay too much into a funny fact JCR just threw out there.
CMLL will draw abysmal next Friday but that’ll be more circumstance than anything else. Nobody is attending a Lucha Libre show on 12/23. But the 12/25 and 1/1 Sunday shows will be jam packed as usual with the lower pricing and the tradition of those days being Lucha watching days. The lineup for 12/23 doesn’t help either. CMLL knows nobody is coming and isn’t wasting their time trying to draw. That part is smart.
All I’ll say about that CMLL main event finish is we were listening on the radio and the crowd was legit unhappy. There weren’t boo’ing loudly at the fact Felino lost, they were pissed at the way Blue Panther won. As many folks (Bill, Cubs, Alan, etc) noted in the chat – this match drew the hardcore fans who wanted to see one of the legendary wrestlers lose their hair. They couldn’t care about anything else on the show (evidenced by Cesar’s recap where he noted the crowd didn’t make any noise until the fourth match b/c it was good). The hardcore fans are not ever coming back after seeing what went down last night. That finish was spitting in their face.
(And just to brag – that finish was ripped straight from Felino/Ciclon Ramirez in 1993 as I pointed out 2 days ago.)