taped 2011-11-06 @ Arena Coliseo
Show definitely occurred. Niebla being Niebla isn’t quite enough to make it worth existing.
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Day: November 15, 2011
CMLL jumps, El Luchador, Zayco, Dr. X, Todos x El Todos
Not a lot of news outside that AAA taping.
No full results from Puebla, but the rudos won the semimain, and Mascara Dorada beat Dragon Rojo in the special singles main event. As you’ll see below, that finish sets up a tag title match next week, Dragon Rojo and Ultimo Guerrero putting the tag team titles on the line versus Mascara Dorada and…Shocker. Mascara Dorada & Atlantis have won CMLL’s tag team tournament two years straight, Atlantis has a few issues with the Guerreros, and Atlantis is not in this match. Probably tells you which way this is going (if you didn’t figure it out by being in Puebla.)
There are rumors other CMLL people are looking to jump. I have no doubt it’s true; people are always looking around for better deals. It’s another thing to actually make those moves. Guys like Hector Garza and Mascarita Dorada have the confident to do so because they’ve made them before and did not lose their place. Not everyone is going to feel that way. I still feel like there will be more people who leave, just because a turnaround doesn’t feel like it’s coming any time soon. Blue Panther vs Negro Casas will be fun and may even spark some interest over a short term if people actually believe they’re going to do that match (a trust CMLL needs to rebuild), but that match seems unlikely to start a long term recovery. I’m not sure there’s any match CMLL can do that alone could turn things around; there are many things headed in the wrong direction that all need to be turned around to fix things, and it’s unclear if the people at the very top have the stomach for it.
I liked El Luchador better this week. I don’t want to spoil it for everyone, but it was very focused this week, with a lot of the previous storylines all but ignored, and tons of CMLL guys making three second cameos. Magnus continues to come off very poorly – both in the task, and the great segment before hand where an arrogant Magnus questioned the press guy about why he wasn’t getting this great opportunity neither of them would specific, while they both just happened to be standing in front of a large picture of Mistico. Subtle! The Bucanero/Sombra final of their cibernetico got the most time of any match they’ve shown so far, and they’ve set up Bucanero vs Fantasma as a big deal. Good Shocker comedy too.
During the show, we do find out Euforia (and family) is a mask/costumer. I couldn’t help think that he really should just make Nosferatu some Cancerbero gear and see if anyone notices. Or maybe he’s the holdout from letting his old friend in the gang? It also puts a whole new spin on the Tuareg vs Cancerbero rivalry – it’s a turf war between Hooligan and Euforia over outfitng the midcard.
Next week’s show looks to be on the Mascara vs Averno match.
Zayco was hurt Sunday off a Robin hurracarrana, Zayco’s head driven into the mat on the move. The medical report says he lost consciousness, but recovered and was checked out a hospital. He’ll be sidelined a week before being re-examined.
Llaves and Candados have a lot of hype on their facebook for Sunday’s #1 contenders battle royal. Of note, the Puerto Rican guy here now using the name Rico Rodriguez is the former Furor, and there’s a Core vs Demencia feud over who’s more extreme.
Links
- SuperLuchas has video of Mr. Agulita vs Celestial from the Perros show.
- Diana la Cazadora is on the next Lucha POP show.
- Matt Cross is supposedly coming to Monterrey on 12/16.
- There’s a Lucha Libre Expo at Gimnasio Benito Juarez on 11/19.
- Lineups for the LLII show in Imperial Beach, California.
- Bio of SLP luchador Kugar.
Lineup
CMLL (SUN) 11/20/2011 Arena Mexico
1) Enrique Vera Jr. & Soberano Jr. vs a replacement for Zayco & Camorra
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Sensei, Super Halcon Jr. vs Apocalipsis, Rayo Tapatío I, Rayo Tapatío II
3) Black Warrior, Hijo del Fantasma, Sangre Azteca vs Euforia, Vangelis, Virus
4) Atlantis vs Volador Jr., Jushin Lyger, Último Guerrero, Shocker, Averno, Super Porky, Negro Casas, La Máscara, Felino, Máximo, Terrible, Metro, Texano, Delta, Rey Bucanero [cibernetico]
Same sort of Trofeo Revolucion Mexicana tournament they’re running in Guadalajara.
That semimain tecnico trio is a fantastic collection of the doomed and undesired.
Nothing symbolizes the lack of internal communication in CMLL than one person sending out an article explaining how Zayco will be out of action and another sending out a lineup with Zayco on it. CMLL really needs to improve how they communicate with the public better, but they can’t do that until they start to improve in how they communicate with each other.
Cholo? Probably Cholo.
CMLL (MON) 11/21/2011 Arena Puebla
1) Lestat & Stigma vs Arissma & Espiritu Maligno
2) Dragon Lee, Fuego, Pegasso vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Skándalo, Virus
3) Black Warrior, Máximo, Valiente vs El Alebrije, Olímpico, Psicosis
4) Atlantis, La Sombra, Rush vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Texano
5) Dragón Rojo Jr. & Último Guerrero vs Máscara Dorada & Shocker [CMLL TAG]
Rudos are trying for defense 7 versus the Guadalajara pair.
CMLL NVC (SUN) 12/04/2011 Arena San Juan Pantitlan
***Homenaje a Dr. X***
1) Belleza Nocturna, Calle 13, Golden, Zikaro vs Baby Perez, Big Mama, Black Estruendo, Coco Amarillo
2) Bronco Gonzalez, Bronco Jr., Centinela de la Muerte, Masacre vs Desgarrador, Galgo, Rocker, Torre Infernal
3) Luzbel & Tanque Infernal vs Rey Estrella & Sucesor
4) Arkángel de la Muerte, Brazo de Plata, Fuego, Fuerza Guerrera, Nitro, Olímpico, Sangre Azteca, Shocker, Skándalo, Último Guerrero vs Delta, Máximo, Pólvora, Rayo Tapatío I, Rayo Tapatío II, Rey Bucanero, Starman, Terrible, Texano, Tiger Metalico
Dr. X memorial show. Main event is listed as CMLL vs Indepedents, but only Fuerza Guerrera is an interloper.
Todos x el Todos (THU) 12/15/2011 Gimnasio Juan De La Barrera
1) Rossy Moreno & Sexy Lady vs La Vaquerita & Ludark Shaitan
2) Mascarita Plateada vs El Lobito [WWA MINI]
3) Solar I vs El Dandy [FLLM MASTER]
4) Blue Demon Jr. vs Ray Mendoza Jr. [PWR HEAVY]
5) Rayo de Jalisco Jr. vs Cien Caras Jr. [WWA HEAVY]
6) El Hijo Del Santo vs Angel Blanco Jr. [WWA WELTER]
Lineup via here. All the tecnicos are champions. All the tecnicos are probably going to be champions; only the Solar one might change hands. There’s nothing better to prove how worthless title belts are than to run a show where everyone has one. I like to think LUCHA POP doesn’t have Vaquerita defending her title too because their titles are too classy for this show.
Have no record of anyone using the name “El Lobito” previously, but I suspect the bit here (for however long it lasts) is familiar Plateada opponents using unfamiliar names when they work on tehse shows.
11/14 AAA TV Results (Irapuato): Mascarita Dorada, Garza debut, 11/16 SLP canceled
AAA TV (MON) 11/14/2011 Lienzo Charro Ignacio León Ornelas, Irapuato [AAA]
1) Jennifer Blake & Sexy Star b Fabi Apache & Lolita
Sexi Star pinned Lolita.
2) Mini Monster Clown, Mini Murder Clown, Mini Psycho Clown b Mascarita Divina, Mini Charly Manson, Octagoncito
Rudos won, planchs n all the tecnicos. After the match, Mascarita Dorada returned to AAA and got the better of the Psycho Circus.
3) Electroshock & Extreme Tiger b Silver King & Último Gladiador
Earlier, Electroshock came out to announce the Maniacos had fractured Heavy Metal’s skull back at Ecatepec (where Metal didn’t wrestle), and it turned into a brawl with random people. Lokillo is now with Electroshock, for the purpose of feuding with Trolli. Extreme Tiger got the pin with a 450 splash on Ultimo Gladiador.
4) Nicho el Millionario b Joe Lider
Bloody hardcore match, of course AAA recap results say Nicho pinned Lider. (Facebook said the opposite.) X-Fly and Halloween helped out Nicho, while Lider only had Extreme Tiger.
5) Halloween, Octagón, X-Fly b Aerostar, Dr. Wagner Jr., Fenix
Faction arguing before the match; Joaquin explained Octagon was only in the second matches because he was feuding with Super Fly (and I guess Super Fly must be in the second match), and Octagon didn’t get a match at Heroes Inmortales because he was too hurt to fight. Octagon, Sexi and Konnan interrupted to say Sociedad was the real AAA. Joaquin told Octagon to get in shape and respect the fans; Octagon had no interest in that. Halloween dedicated this match to his wife, because it was their anniversary. Wagner was distracted by Konnan and fouled by Octagon for the loss. Rudos took Wagner and Fenix’s masks after the match.
6) El Mesías & Jack Evans b Chessman & el Hijo del Perro Aguayo
Jack got the pin with the 630 senton on Perro (!) “To everyone’s surprise”, Hector Garza returned to AAA, as part of Los Perros. They destroyed Jack.
The Hector Garza appearance would’ve been more of a surprise if we all didn’t kinda of know it was coming four days ago; it’s his third surprise appearance in that time. It will still be a big surprise to the majority of AAA fans who don’t follow lucha gossip on Twitter, aren’t aware of Perros del Mal shows, and aren’t reading about AAA tapings before they happen. Same thing with Dorada. It’s fine.
Dorada working here probably has no impact on his Santo agreement or whatever he has going with WWE. He’s already listed on the next Santo show. AAA and Santo do not get along (and may still be suing each other, there was never a mention if that was resolved), but AAA doesn’t appear to have the same “us or him” mentality as CMLL. The “Mascarita Platedata” identity is probably there to separate the two, but surely one of Dorada’s conditions for coming back here was the ability to control his own schedule. AAA minis not being on every show isn’t as a big a deal because Dorada probably won’t be around for every show anyway.
I had heard rumors of Mascarita Dorada going to AAA as far back as early spring, when CMLL attendance was relatively great; there was a long stretch where he quietly disappeared from CMLL cards where it seemed like he might turn up at any AAA TV taping. Mini Psicosis is a clear transitional champion, and a pretty clear sign that someone was coming in to win the minis title down the line, though Dorada was not the only name considered. Anyway, I think the point is quite often takes a long time from the first hints of a rumored luchador promotional jump until it actually happens; just because people haven’t talked about in a while doesn’t mean people aren’t still thinking about it.
This is now the only taping this week. AAA announced late last night that Wednesday’s SLP taping is canceled. That article and a local news paper article do not mention any reason for the cancellation. (Another website is still promoting the show, oops.)
modified TV schedule taped airs 11/05 Ecatepec 11/19 11/14 Irapuato 11/26 TELETON! 12/03 11/27 Pachuca 12/10 12/11 Campeche 12/17 12/16 Puebla 12/24, 12/31 (Guerra de Titanes)
I forget about the Teleton every year (and Televisa also may about Primera Division final that week), Dr. Lucha pointed it out to me. I don’t know that AAA canceled the SLP taping because they realized they had one TV taping, but it does fit perfectly in the old SLP spot.
This also means that AAA has one (1) TV taping before Guerra de Titanes and have appeared to announce zero (0) matches. Maybe it’s clearer on the TV itself. They seem to be setting up Hector vs Jack based off that main event finish (for similar reasons as Dorada), and maybe some miscellaneous tag matches.
Next taping is that show at the end of the month in Pachuca. I would really like to write about AAA more – the proportions are all wrong – but it’s tough to have much to say when they’re running TV tapings about once every two weeks.
No sign of the usual Fox Sports show; that usually is announced and even taping by now.
11/12-13 lucha videos
Other Lucha Related Material
El Luchador: Season 1, episode 4: http://www.multiupload.com/J032V0B86H
CMLL Ras de Lona 11/12: http://www.multiupload.com/QU3G7WCWTQ – they seem to have stopped posting it, so I will start.
Lucha Libre en Mexico (recent-ish documentary): http://www.multiupload.com/QRUNM2ERAN
Mascara Sagrada vs la Mafia del Ring (recent-ish movie): http://www.multiupload.com/JLMEP5WEYY
La Mejor Lucha (recent-ish movie featuring luchadors I couldn’t ID): http://www.multiupload.com/VY0JZGLV39
Actual Matches
WWC 11/12: http://www.multiupload.com/ZSZ9U06VYF
WWC 11/13: http://www.multiupload.com/2TN503YPX9
CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2011-11-12
taped 2011-11-04 @ Arena Mexico
1) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Metro vs Negro Casas, Pólvora, Rey Escorpion
http://www.multiupload.com/E3BR2MZ364
2) Máscara Dorada vs Mephisto for the CMLL World Welterweight Championship <— THIS IS AWESOME
http://www.multiupload.com/9JG8MSZ4CY
CMLL on Televisa: 2011-11-12
http://www.multiupload.com/MC382Y6C8X
taped 2011-11-04 @ Arena Mexico
1) Felino, Mr. Águila, Volador Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Texano
2) Atlantis, Jushin Lyger, Shocker vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero
CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2011-11-12
taped 2011-11-06 @ Arena Coliseo
http://www.multiupload.com/O4V894VRW0
1) Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Texano vs Rush, Super Porky, Toscano
2) Averno, Mephisto, Mr. Niebla vs Atlantis, Héctor Garza, Jushin Lyger
AAA on Televisa (Regional): 2011-11-12
taped 2011-10-21 @ Arena Xalapa
promos: http://www.multiupload.com/7KWVC0N1O4
1) Fabi Apache, Lolita, Octagoncito vs Jennifer Blake, Mini Psicosis, Sexy Star
http://www.multiupload.com/ZCQ5W0LWVZ
2) Extreme Tiger & Joe Lider vs Halloween & Nicho el Millionario in a hardcore rules match
http://www.multiupload.com/Z516J7VR43
3) Electroshock & Heavy Metal vs Decnnis & Silver King
http://www.multiupload.com/87UZ9KPDHF
4) Fenix, Jack Evans, La Parka vs Billy el Malo, Cibernético, Escoria
http://www.multiupload.com/OVJ32J9QLY
(WarriorsX2000 and decadas80s90s2000 have the other AAA show)
CMLL on CadenaTres: 2011-11-13
taped 2011-11-08 @ Arena Mexico
1) Aereo & Pequeño Halcón vs Mercurio & Pequeño Universo 2000
http://www.multiupload.com/N0KL87ESQS
2) Molotov, Starman, Tigre Blanco vs Bronco, Hooligan, Inquisidor
http://www.multiupload.com/XRNQQZ11BV
3) Ángel Azteca Jr., Mr. Cacao, Pegasso vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Loco Max, Skándalo
http://www.multiupload.com/RU3BLTR11I
4) Delta, Hijo del Fantasma, Toscano vs El Alebrije, Olímpico, Psicosis
http://www.multiupload.com/HKU9USJSTC
5) Héctor Garza, La Máscara, Rush vs Averno, Terrible, Texano
http://www.multiupload.com/
Lucha on AYM Sports: 2011-11-13
taped 2011-09-25 @ Deportivo Vicente Saldivar, Deleg. Benito Juarez
http://www.multiupload.com/J94T05XRRT
1) Cassandra & Sahori vs Chik Tormenta & Lady Sensacion
2) Estrella Mágica & Lily Fighter vs La Chola & Miss Janeth
CMLL on Teleformula: 2011-11-13
taped 2011-10-21 @ Arena Mexico
http://av2.radioformula.com.mx/vidMUL/luchamania/111113_luchamania1_v.wmv
1) Ayumi, Lady Apache, Marcela vs Amapola, La Seductora, Mima Shimoda
2) Metal Blanco vs Shigeo Okumura in a lightning match
3) Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Valiente vs Euforia, Hijo del Signo, Virus
Arena Coliseo Monterrey: 2011-11-13
taped 2011-11-06 @ Arena Coliseo Monterrey
http://www.multiupload.com/RDGX5NOHZ4
1) Artillero (MTY) & Demencia vs Maravilla Azteca Jr. & Rey Orion
2) Dralion, Gato Fantasma, Silencio vs Gemelo Muerte I, Gemelo Muerte II, Misionero
3) Hijo del Ninja, Ninja, Ninja Jr. vs Golden Boy, Rey Demonio Jr., Simbolo
4) Angel Dorado Jr., Big Neurosis, Máscara Púrpura vs Androide, Furor, Genocida
So far, I’ve recapped the 52MX and Gala shows and wasn’t really impressed by either of them. I had an eye on the AYM Sports show and it’s exactly the level you’d expect (if not even less); do not hold your breath for a recap of that one.
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