Puebla, Heroes Inmortales notes

CMLL (MON) 10/10/2011 Arena Puebla [Porra Fresa]
1) Centella de Oro & Milenium b Akron & Espiritu Maligno
Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Bronco, Hooligan, Nitro b Ángel Azteca Jr., Ángel de Plata, Molotov
rudos took 1/3.
3) Delta, Metro, Sagrado b Shigeo Okumura, Vangelis, Yoshihashi
Tecnicos took 1/3. Vangelis hurt his ribs during the match and was taken out before the finish.
4) Blue Panther, Hijo del Fantasma, Valiente DQ Dragón Rojo Jr., Felino, Mr. Niebla
Straight falls. Felino fouled Panther for the DQ.
5) Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Texano b Atlantis, Jushin Lyger, Shocker
Crowd was not in to this match as much as the earlier ones. Lyger took the pin.

Other News

Some clean up about Heroes Inmortales:

There is no doubt it was the actual Octagon and actual La Parka who turned on Wagner. Same size guys as usual. Octagon did look more active and aggressive than any point since the last Pentagon was around, but it was clearly him. They could always back out of it later, but it wasn’t meant to be an impostor. WON says both guys have been told not to do interviews this week. We’re probably waiting until next Friday’s taping in Xalapa to get any sort of explanation. Can’t wait for that.

Parka & Octagon turning rudo is supposed to reinvigorate their career. This is annoyingly consistent with AAA’s usual tactics; they really need new people at the top, and they continue the shuffle around the same people around to do the same set of main event feuds. LA Park has been moving towards the tecnico side over the last few months, but the Bizarros must be joining the tecnico side too to keep the Cibernetico/Parka stuff going (and the Parka/Dark Family stuff is likely dead.)

Recent Notable Attendances
CMLL 09/30: 8,600 (source: WON)
AAA 10/09: 8,000 (source: WON)
WWE in MTY 10/12: 5,00o (source: Dorian Roldan News Network) or “officially 10,000” (source: LuchaMania board.)

Well, that’s no helpful.  The wrestling business is doomed. DOOMED. (Or things are just weird and one number shouldn’t be considered as all the evidence you need.) WWE is going to do much better elsewhere, but that’s still a shockingly low number. I wonder what number the Santo/indy show is going to do in MTY. Also, how well the LyC four way title matches show did; that looked like a full Arena Coliseo Monterrey.

The WON also says Casandro and AAA haven’t actually agreed on a deal yet. AAA wanted Mesias to beat Sting, but either Sting said no or TNA said no, so we got whatever finish that was. Despite that match being very poorly received, AAA wants to bring back Sting to team with Mesias. (Which would seem to indicate it’s not Sting who said no.)

Luchadors continue to look for better social security thru the Mexican government. A big press conference took place Wednesday, led by Daniel Aceves (last seen in CMLL presenting Copa Bobby Bonales) and attended by various CMLL luchadors (Atlantis, Garza, Bucanero, Niebla, Panther, Volador), Canek, politicians, and athletes from other second tier sports. All the sports want more support from the government, similar to Primera Division futbol. They’re specifically looking for tax deductions, help with medical expenses, more facilities, and more money spent into helping improve sports at grass roots level to keep Mexican sports strong. This follows politicians previously visiting Arena Mexico proposing the same ideas, so there may be some actual movement. Like a lot of lucha going on this week, it’s probably no coincidence they’re making this push the same time WWE is around.

Fuerza Guerrera will replace Dr. X on the upcoming IWL shows. CMLL is now listing Raziel as working Sunday’s Arena Mexico in Dr. X’s place; that was likely the plan all along.

Selected tickets for tomorrow’s Arena Mexico show are half off on this Groupon like site.

Lucha Libre In Japan

AJPW 10/13: Ozz [O] & Cuervo b Kenzo Suzuki & Kaz Hayashi [X]

Links

Lineups

CMLL (TUE) 10/18/2011 Arena Mexico
1) Aereo, Fantasy, Pequeño Halcón vs Mercurio, Pequeño Universo 2000, Pequeño Warrior
2) Dragon Lee, Pegasso, Rey Cometa vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Loco Max, Skándalo
3) Ray vs Silueta [CMLL REINA IJ]
4) Ángel de Oro, Black Warrior, Delta vs Misterioso Jr., Rey Escorpion, Vangelis
5) La Sombra, Rush, Super Porky vs Averno, Dragón Rojo Jr., Mr. Niebla

The segunda is the first match for any Tuareg member since Dr. X’s passing.

I expect Ray to win, but this should be an interesting measure of where Silueta is at.

CMLL (TUE) 10/18/2011 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Virgo vs Javier Cruz Jr.
2) León Blanco & Magnum vs Gran Kenut & Infierno
3) Apocalipsis & Bobby Zavala vs Evola & Ráfaga
4) Diamante, Guerrero Maya Jr., Sagrado vs Pólvora, Shigeo Okumura, Yoshihashi
5) Héctor Garza, Hijo del Fantasma, Toscano vs Mr. Águila, Terrible, Texano

Zavala & Evola were teammates this past Tuesday. No results, but things must’ve not gone well!

MV (FRI) 10/28/2011 Auditorio el Tijuana
1) Fishman Jr. vs Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Jaque Mate Jr., Hijo de LA Park, El Hijo de Rey Misterio, Gallo Tapado Jr., Ultramán Jr., Kung Fu Jr. [ruleta de la muerte]

It has to be Jaque Mate Jr., right? The one thing you can say about Rey Misterio Sr. taking over as commissioner here is they’re running far more shows in Tijuana of late. Might be other factors, but it’s good to see.


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8 thoughts to “Puebla, Heroes Inmortales notes”

  1. In addition to the press conference regarding the social security for luchadores, a warrant was presented at the Senate . Here is the report: http://www.oem.com.mx/elsoldemexico/notas/n2264581.htm

    At a proposal made by the coordinator of the PRD party, Senator Carlos Navarrete Ruiz, the Social Security Committee of the Upper House has approved a warrant for the Federal and State health sector to take action to ensure that professional luchadores have access to social security.

    The proposal of Senator Carlos Navarrete notes that Mexican professional lucha libre could suffer serious economic and sociocultural consequences if athletes who practice it are kept without social security coverage.

    He said that social benefits are zero for workers in the ring, despite the fact that the sport generates an economic network composed by the wrestlers themselves, the promoters, sponsors, audience, vendors of souvenirs and other items related to this activity.

    The lawmaker noted that other issues threatening lucha libre in Mexico are the promotion of other shows from the United States and the lack of regulation in this sport.

    “Lucha libre is a cultural expression that has generated a social identification and is considered one of the most popular spectator sports, just below soccer,” said the senator.

    As a response, Carlos Navarrete proposed that the content of the agreement includes a point in which the Congress asks the education authorities to make efforts “to preserve the Mexican professional lucha libre as a heritage of Mexican popular culture.”

  2. Wednesday is not a good night to draw. WWE is for kids and chubby middle aged women. Weekends are best for box office.

    WWE has been doing too many shows in Mexico if you ask me.

  3. Wait, so we’re suppose to believe what Dorian Roldan is claiming? For real? Am I missing something?

  4. We don’t have to believe anything.

    Dorian’s usually honest on at least attendances, but it’s weird how two people got so vastly different numbers though.

  5. @Gallo: We’ll see what numbers OCESA sends in to Pollstar. They always send in the real numbers.

    IIRC, WON recently said that AAA Puebla TV tapings did 10,000. I know I read it.

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