CMLL (SUN) 11/01 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Molotov & Principe b Camorra & Cholo
2) Delta, Diamante, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Pólvora, Puma King, Tiger Kid
3) Arkangel de la Muerte, Loco Max, Nosferatu b Pegasso, Rey Cometa, Starman
4) Ephesto, Sangre Azteca, Shigeo Okumura b Blue Panther, Máximo, Toscano
5) Héctor Garza, Shocker, Volador Jr. DQ Averno, Terrible, Texano Jr.
In the third, Averno went to foul kick Volador, Volador bent down to block, and Averno pulled his mask for the DQ. Okumura fouled Maximo and got away with it in the semimian. Nosferatu replaced Nitro in the tercera.
CMLL officially announced it’s annual bodybuilding concest for 11/25. For the first time, it’ll be open to the public – free for anyone who has two ticket stubs from this month.
CMLL notes the 11/15 (Sunday) show is a Fan Appreciation show, right above a note about Okumura/Maximo (Sunday) feud. HMMMM.
Previews for tonight’s Arena Mexico show
– ESTO – hyping Dorada making it to the main event
– Ovaciones – focusing on Mephisto vs Naito
Fuego en el Ring has a long interview with Mistico, though there’s not a lot of news there. A lot talking about wanting revenge for Sunday’s cheap loss to Ultimo Guerrero and facing Negro Casas again. Mistico is leaving to Japan on Friday, and really wants to wrestle in the US for someone in 2010. Mistico says he probably won’t be teaming up with Sombra & Volador again until late this year, because they’re just busy. And this is why tecnico groups never get over.
Speaking of Japan, Strong Man won his IGF match in 3 minutes today. (Purolove.com)
AAA looks back at monsters of AAA. Oddly, this time they acknowledge La Parka Jr. used to be Karis La Momia. It’s a coin flip. They also mention Luzbel = Gronda II and kinda bury Rellik.
Ozz is replacing Sugi on all of his announced spot show appearances. Sugi is back in Japan now, though I’m not sure if he’s gotten his knee operation.
Ovaciones has the teams for Thursday’s ruleta de muerte. Maybe SuperLuchas had them earlier, but I didn’t grasp it then. Anyway:
– Hijo del Pirata Morgan & Oficial AK47
– Pendulo & Barba Roja
– Gringo Loco & Chico Che
– Hijo del Diablo & Zatura
– Ultraman Jr. & Arlequin Negro
– Miss Gaviota & Capitan Muerte
– Eragon & Menfis
– Exodia & Cerebro Negro
I would be surprised if the first duo were to meet at the end. Not really with any of the other ones. Kinda hope they’re not just running a tournament to give Ultraman Jr. Off All People a mask win, but he is the one teaming with the guy who’s debuting (or misspelled) in this match.
Luchando Libre argues lucha fans will always by tickets to see legends, so CMLL bringing back Brazo de Plata is a good move to bring in fans. There’s also the argument, which Porky himself has made, that Brazo de Plata can teach the newer wrestlers in the art of lucha libre. I was going to write a big post about Porky and talent vs skill, but then I figured the ballots have been filled and the totals will be in soon enough, and plus I rather spend that time writing about baseball. However, just one thing: in the three years Porky was with AAA, which young wrestlers did he make better?
Combining the last two items, Cesar wonders if CMLL is planning to go after more kids in 2010. Cesar also previews this Friday’s card, noting Mr. Niebla is returning from a discipline suspension, and last week’s lighting match is the last one they’ll do this year.
Tinieblas Jr. is telling people he will work with CMLL in November. I would not take this seriously unless CMLL says it.
Seems a little bit earlier, but year end awards are turning up. The Mayor of Tamaulipas, who really should have better things to do, presented awards to local wrestlers
– Fuego Latino (champion of champions)
– Comando Extremo & Rocker Boy (best team)
– Turako, Black Power, Red Dragon (best trio)
E-Consulta writes about the Huracan Ramirez (Daniel Garcia) memorial mass.
Cronicas and Leyendas writes about the first CMLL tag team tournament and Villano III vs Pegasus Kid.
LuchaWorld as a KrisZ’s news update.
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“However, just one thing: in the three years Porky was with AAA, which young wrestlers did he make better?”
Elegido. Prior to knowing Super Porky, his dancing was subpar. Super Porky taught him how to project his dancing, so that his dancing would reach those in the nosebleed section.:)
Oh…You meant wrestling? Um…Hmmm….Lemme think about that a little longer.
To be fair to Porky, teaching someone isn’t so simple. I’ve heard stories from various veteran luchadores who have said that younger guys don’t really want to listen or train the way they were taught and there are promoters nowadays who’ll book inexperienced young guys to fill out a show. There’s also a lot of veterans, many of which who whine about the younger guys, who are not very approachable and don’t really make any type of effort to help anyone unless they can make a buck, is a friend or relative. Then again, we’ve already seen at least one guy who wouldn’t even help his own kid and another who severed ties with a nephew.
Raw 11/2 9.9
Smackdown 10/30 10.8
AAA 11/1 4.1
Santo/Demon Movie 10/31 4.5
CMLL 10/31 3.8
Yankees vs. Phillies 11/2 6.4
@LLL: These are all national ratings, right?
CMLL 10/31 3.8
AAA 11/1 4.1
HMMMMMM.
AAA’s dropped nearly a point (or 18%) on the last month. SmackDown is off nearly the same amount of points just in the last week, but that’s only a 7% decline for them.
Best example of the casual lucha fan audience?
1) AAA reruns an episode, gets the same exact rating (last week)
or
2) A Santo & Demon movie, shown who knows how many times, beats both lucha shows.
Just outta curiosity Alfredo, who are you talking about cutting ties?
@Nikita: One of those is Rayo De Jalisco Jr. and Rayman, though I’ve lost track of which one it is. (Though it think it’s the first, and the second is Santo/Axxel.)
Keith, are you sending these ratings to Meltzer? It’d be interesting to hear what Konnan’s excuses are.
@thecubsfan: Correct Cubs.
Rayo is clearly the bigger prick though. Santo at least cut Axxel off b/c he knew Axxel was only trying to use the Santo name b/c he was awful. He had NOTHING going for him but by using the Santo name he would be someone and probably get national press initially and then every year in February.
Rayo is a bigger prick b/c he brought Rayman in thinking it would help him out. Rayo was getting old and fans were tired of seeing him. But suddenly a father/son team battling the Dinamitas was fresh and drew decent crowds initially. But after a few weeks it became evident that the people weren’t coming to see Rayo/Rayman feud with the Dinamitas… they were coming to see RAYMAN feud with the Dinamitas. Promoters began calling to get Rayman booked and declined on bringing in Rayo too so Rayo stopped allowing his own fucking son to use the name and thus he became Hombre Sin Nombre which killed all his momentum and he got less bookings when Rayo threatened to leave.
On a sidenote – does anyone remember Ovaciones did a contest to give Rayman a new name? I entered with Rayo De Oro and something else I forget. Alvarez even entered with some funny names that actually got printed! Shocking considered at least one of them translated into something like Son of Lazy Wrestler.
Ah… Thought we were talking a more recent example… Like perhaps the various Casas’ claiming uncle/nephew relationships…
@Rob: Axxel wasn’t completely awful. He sucked in CMLL, but there have been plenty worse 2nd and 3rd generation wrestlers living off a famous father or relative’s name. I still think it was a douchebag thing that Santito did except people are way more forgiving because it was Hijo del Santo who did it and it was only a nephew and not his son.
@Rob: Yes. WON gets the numbers. I don’t expect WON to say much about it. Perhaps he’ll wait some time to draw conclusions.
@thecubsfan: Yes. I’m just getting the nationals from now on. I think AAA is suffering for a number of reasons. First, when WWE established RAW/Smackdown on free tv, the natural comparison was made against AAA, not CMLL, and AAA lost some viewers.
AAA is often comes from off the the beaten path venues like Xalapa, Poza Rica, Cuernavaca, and the occasional old baseball stadium. CMLL has permanent lighting and intro ramps, giving the show a consistent professional look.
CMLL uses the same camera crew every week, while AAA appears to vary, based on the terrible camera angles(like the dizzying boom camera) and edits that make no sense.
AAA starts every episode with “la semana pasada”, which is something soap operas do(I admit to watching Mad Men), but the old format of having the announcers do the intros was ten times better.
Axxel is going nowhere. He should turn heel and lose the mask to Santo, but it won’t happen.
Can Axxel even get booked anymore? I heard he was trying to get US bookings because no one will book him in Mexico.
Axxel should lose his mask. He should’ve stayed in ArMex, lost it, and moved on with his life. He’d make more in one night than he could possibly make working small shows for the next ten years.
Axxel should lose his mask. He should’ve stayed in ArMex, lost it, and moved on with his life. He’d make more in one night than he could possibly make working small shows for the next ten years.
I don’t get how people can watch CMLL on regular tv. It might just be the XEJTV feed but the amount of commercials is just unreal. Like you get the intro then it’s 5 minutes of commercials for shitty text messaging. Then the match starts and you get the first caida then 10 more minutes of Commercials. The Cadena Tres tv or ACM doesn’t seem like that.
@Tim: AAA’s the same. Its a Galavision/Televisa thing.
@Tim: Keeping a remote handy is helpful.
You know what’s also really starting to annoy me is the constant advertisements during C3. You can’t go 20 seconds without some graphic popping up and those are BIG graphics.