IWRG (SUN) 09/27 Arena Naucalpan [Black Terry Jr./Esterlla del Ring]
1) Rey Tempestad b Dark Saint
2) Eragon & Pendulo b Epidemia & Heavy Boy
3) Bushi, Gemelo Fantastico I, Gemelo Fantastico II b Avisman, El Hijo del Diablo, Gringo Loco
4) Black Terry, Dement, Tóxico DF b Chico Che, Exodia, Rigo
5) Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan Jr. b Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro
Pirates destroyed the Oficials. Dement is a guy in knockoff Mankind gear, including the mask.
CMLL (SUN) 09/27 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Bengala & Trueno b Calígula & Méssala
2) Hiroka, Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sujei b Amapola, Dark Angel, Mima Shimoda [Relevos Increíbles]
3) Fabián el Gitano, Pegasso, Rey Cometa b Dr. X, Loco Max, Vangelis
4) Ray Mendoza Jr., Terrible, Tetsuya Naito b Hijo del Fantasma, Máximo, Sagrado
5) Blue Panther, Héctor Garza, Volador Jr. DQ Black Warrior, Felino, Último Guerrero
The third fall ended with Garza, Volador and UG in the ring. Garza, facing away from the rudo, boosted Volador up for a ‘rana, only for UG to duck under and heel kick foul him on the way down. Hector checked on Volador after the match, but Volador angrily pushed him away (!) then challenged UG for a match next week.
As suspected, the second match ended up with all the rudas stomping a mudhole on poor Dark Angel. If only she had some sort of partner who could help her out here.
CMLL hasn’t announced it on their site yet, but ESTO has posted a modified lineup for Sunday.
CMLL (SUN) 10/04 Arena Coliseo
1) Delta & Trueno vs Semental & Zayco
2) Astro Boy, Metálico, Starman vs Calígula, Méssala, René Guajardo Jr.
3) Guerrero Maya Jr., Pegasso, Rey Cometa vs Arkangel de la Muerte, Vangelis, Virus
4) Blue Panther, Místico, Toscano vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
5) Volador Jr. vs Último Guerrero
Poder Mexica, Valiente, and Mictlan all appear dropped. Unless they just add them to go to the usual six match card with a singles main event.
CMLL (MON) 09/28 Arena Puebla [Fuego en el Ring, SuperLuchas]
1) Black Tiger, Lestat, Milenium b Mr. Rafaga, Sauron, Siki Osama
2) Artillero, Pólvora, Súper Comando b Ángel Azteca Jr., Ángel de Plata, Sensei
3) Euforia, Nosferatu, Skándalo b Flash, Metro, Stuka Jr.
4) Naito, Ray Mendoza Jr., Shigeo Okumura, Yujiro b Atlantis, Black Warrior, Dragon Rojo Jr., Último Guerrero
5) Místico b Jushin Liger [IWGP JH]
HOORAY for Fuego en el Ring having full Puebla results on Tuesday. Figure it’s a special thing for Mistico/Liger, but would love to see it every week.
Liger beat Mistico with a crushing Ligerbomb in the first fall. Mistico was so hurt, they put him on a strechered and started to carry him to the back, but Mistico refused to go down that way and rallied back. He won the second fall with a suplex, and the third with what sounds like a shoulderbreaker. Two defenses, who’s next?
Liger ends the tour 5-6, as far as matches we’ve heard about, but it sure feels stronger than that. He went 4-1 in Coliseo/Mexico. I think CMLL booked Liger trip in as well as they’ve booked anything of late; he got build up super strong, and the top guys got to vanquish him before he left. That’s the way to do it.
Dragon Rojo replaced Mr. Niebla. Warriro did the hair challenge to Yujiro again. Nosferatu snatched Stuka’s mask in their match, though the rudos were winning that anyway.
According to last week’s Wrestling Observer Radio, AAA never told Charly Manson he was going to lose his hair. Instead, AAA just refused to tell him anything. Apparently, the current policy is to not tell the wrestlers what their finishes will be until the day of the show (presumably only for TV tapings.) Charly thought it was disrespectful not to be told, and so he left. Meanwhile, AAA lauds Electroshock for taking the hair match in place of his brother, and ESTO says AAA still plans to sue.
Fuego en el Ring interviews Rayo de Jalisco. He thinks CMLL has too much young vs young, and the fans want to see youth vs experience. He’ll never go back to AAA – “I spend three weeks in Triple and I think it was the worst experience I had in my life.” Rayo de Jalisco believes the last strong rivalry in lucha libre was Rayo de Jailsco vs Cien Caras. There was a mix up previously where he was advertised to make an return to Arena Coliseo Guadalajara, and Rayo blames that on Apolo Dantes promoting him without actually checking with the office to see if he could be back there. He hopes to be back in GDL by the end of the year, but there’s not the usual “I’m coming back to CMLL in a few months” bit here.
Konnan’s talk about Cibernetico doesn’t appear to be anything new; the usual “I was a star in the US, Cibernetico never accomplished anything” bit, plus the “there are no up and coming stars like there was when I was an up and coming stars.”
Fuego also talks to Leono, who would like to turn rudo. His brother is in the CMLL school, and may end up wrestling with the same name Leono started with (Mustang).
AAA explains who Konnan Big is by embedding a link to his music video. Well played. No music video for Go Shiozaki, which is disappointing.
Following up on the odd listing of Cinthia Moreno & Oriental teaming up on an indy show, Dr. Landru @ box y lucha foro (and others) say it’s a typo and it’ll actually be Rossy Moreno working the show.
ESTO notes today’s main event rudo side probably is fated for disaster. Atlantis and Villano V doesn’t quite work as a team, with Atlantis responible for V3’s mask loss and Atlantis’ best friend Ultimo Guerrero taking Villano V’s mask. Good thing there’s the level headed presence of Heavy Metal to settle them down.
Proyeccion Luchistica has photos of lucha libre fan fest, and R Rudo talks about the shows. Similar pricing complaints as the lucha libre expo.
Luchas 2000 #489 has what you’d expect: Electrico & Pierrothito with the belts, Charly joining the Perros, and Okumura winning Gran Alternativa. No AAA results.
Ohtani’s Jacket checks out the opener from 09/14/09. A best of Puebla 2009 is a fine idea.
LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.
AAA (SAT) 10/03 Plaza de Toros el Pinal, Teziutitlan [AAA]
1) Fabi Apache & Gran Apache vs Billy Boy & Sexy Star
2) Alan Stone & Relampago vs Pasion Kristal & Pimpinela Escarlata
3) Cibernético & Gronda vs Gronda II & Kenzo Suzuki
BEST WORKER IN THE MAIN IS KENZO SUZUKI. I need sirens and a big red button to hit when something like that happens.
Edit: left this in the wrong tab and forgot to include it:
IWRG (TUE) 09/22 Arena Naucalpan [Proyeccion Luchistica]
1) Maldito Jr., Poseidon, Samot b Espada de Plata, Halcon Fire, Master
2) Gringo Loco b Imperio Azteca, Keshin Black, Fly Star, Imperial, DVD, Serpiente Dorada, Halcon 2000, Hijo del Signo, Alan Extreme, Comando del Diablo, Fenix, Dinamic Black [cibernetico]
Gringo Loco wins! Just a two match trainee show, of guys who work first and second matches (and Gringo Loco.) Proyeccion Luchistica is high on Fly Star’s perfomance here, though I wish he would’ve labeled more of the pictures.
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What Charly did was unprofessional. Anyways,I have to side with AAA on this one.Be a man and suck it up.
Konnan is full of shit but no one has yet to shut him up,so he will continue to talk crap. I would love for someone to challenge him on those internet lucha radio shows.
Has anybody find the channel Perro del mal suppose to debut on?
I agree Cubs, Lyger’s stay did feel stronger. He sent two top stars out on a stretcher, and got the Mexico vs. Japan thing over.
Charly had to know he was getting a haircut. The money wasn’t right, and he walked.
Perro Fan: No one knows what channel probably b/c he really hasn’t closed the deal.
I don’t think they had to tell Charly he was losing his hair, but I’m pretty sure he knew the writing was on the wall and figured he’d want a proper payday and didn’t get it. Plus, I still think everyone is making more of that one particular situation and not seeing the whole big picture that I really think Manson wasn’t in AAA’s long-term plans. Of course, I could point out how crappy he’s looked in the ring, but then they also have 2 Grondas, Cibernetico, Konnan, Electroshock and countless other crappy workers that make Charly look 100x better.
Is Dement holding a Cabbage Patch Kid while wrestling?
Young vs. Old did wonders for WCW, right Rayo?
That Puebla Locals vs. CMLL minis feud should have gone way longer. It actually was pretty cool. I saw the match were Tzuki was carted off due to being drunk…er…’injured’ by the Puebla locals. Could have used it to showcase a guy like Bam Bam and see what he could do with bigger guys.
OH GOD! Have you seen Konan Big’s music video? I can’t believe I’m going to say this, but he should stick to wrestling. He’s even worse at singing. LOL!
that has to be one of the worst music videos of all time.
in dements case it seems somones been watching to many mujer demente tapes.
Kudos to Charly for standing up for himself. Not telling him ahead of time that he will be getting a haircut is messed up. It is disrespectful.
“1) Black Tiger, Lestat, Milenium b Mr. Rafaga, Sauron, Siki Osama
2) Artillero, Pólvora, Súper Comando b Ángel Azteca Jr., Ángel de Plata, Sensei
3) Euforia, Nosferatu, Skándalo b Flash, Metro, Stuka Jr.
4) Naito, Ray Mendoza Jr., Shigeo Okumura, Yujiro b Atlantis, Black Warrior, Dragon Rojo Jr., Último Guerrero
5) Místico b Jushin Liger [IWGP JH]” The Semifinal must NEVER make TV, EVER. After reading the Konnan interview, believe it or not he achieved something. He’s no longer just a shithead. Konnan will be known as (at least in my mind) El Rey del Shitheads.
Fredo,
Sure they had to tell Charly he was losing his hair. Given AAA’s track record, he must’ve thought there would be a swerve, and he’d keep his hair, while a ref, second, or someone else lost their hair.
@LLL: Not weeks in advance. Days would be fine. Granted, AAA seems to be the only lucha libre promotion that has an abundance of guys who seem to have hair that won’t grow immediately.
CMLL has guys losing hair matches all the time (some have made it an annual thing) and it grows within 1-2 months after the hair match.
I’m pretty sure that Charly Manson was unhappy with AAA as a whole, and this was just the final straw. I doubt that they whole dispute stemmed from this one match.
I’m not a Charly Manson fan by any means but I’m on his side on this. I commend him for having the guts to take a stand against Konnan and Dorian’s bullshit AAA.
We don’t hear anything about AAA ratings anymore.
The entire idea of not telling guys they are losing leading up to a big show is retarded. If you are working with someone who is so unprofessional that they will bitch about jobbing weeks in advance – you should not be working with that person. Yes, that’d be you Cibernetico. If you just tell them they are jobbing the day of the show you risk them walking out and then you screw your fans over as with Manson vs Chessman. Is fucking with your fans really worth having to deal with a crybaby for a few weeks? Obviously it is to Konnan.
This really shows you the difference between a professional locker room (CMLL) and whatever goes on backstage in the other promotion (AAA). Casas knew he was losing his hair in March when he started that feud with Mistico. The Japanese guys know at least one of them is losing their hair before they leave the country. Why is it the CMLL crew can know their finishes months in advance and be okay with it but AAA guys can’t be told a week or two in advance b/c they’ll bitch about it? The answer is that’s the kind of locker room the people in charge of the company have created.
And I find it quite interesting that Daniel commends Manson for what he did but has no problem when Latin Lover returns to the promotion every so often. Which is it? Manson’s the good guy for leaving but Latin’s the good guy for still working AAA occasionally? You can’t have it both ways.
That Puebla semi-main needs to BE ERASED FROM EXISTENCE BY NOT AIRING.
Ugh… there’s another Leono out there.
Between Konnan’s comments and Rayo’s comments I’m not sure who is more stuck in the past. The reason Rayo’s three week stint in AAA was so awful was b/c he got exposed within 5 seconds of being in the ring. In CMLL he was super over and the promotion was full of old guys doing the same routine. In AAA he was immediatly exposed as being an old guy doing the same routine working a show with many young guys who had surpassed him. He couldn’t handle the fact the crowd reacted more to his partners than to him. He’s totally right about that youth vs experience thing though. CMLL *never* does that. All we get is youth vs youth like Mistico vs Negro Casas. Damn 49 year old youths!
@Rob You said “And I find it quite interesting that Daniel commends Manson for what he did but has no problem when Latin Lover returns to the promotion every so often. Which is it? Manson’s the good guy for leaving but Latin’s the good guy for still working AAA occasionally? You can’t have it both ways.”
You know, sometimes you make perfect sense, and sometimes you’re nothing more than a troll. Latin Lover is not in the same situation as Charly Manson. One has nothing to do with other. Yeah Charly is the good guy for leaving because he’s protesting Konnan and Dorian’s bullshit. If he comes back under HIS own terms there’s nothing wrong with that.
It will be interesting when Charly begs for his job back when he realizes CMLL doesn’t want him and the Independent scene dries up even more.
New lucha sites:
similar to the wiki where luchadores create mini bios including their booking info http://www.elluchador.org/Inicio
Site covering Coliseo Chiuahua http://www.coliseochihuahua.com/
Site covering lucha in Oaxaca/ Arena Ray Alcantara
http://www.luchalibreoaxaca.com.mx/
@Anonymous: I’ve been checking out the Chihuahua site lately, but the other two are new to me. Oaxaca’s site has music playing loudly when you go to it, but both otherwise look really nice.
I’ve added them to the sidebar! Even in the right category, I think.