Thursday notes

Ovaciones had a nice story on the career of Matematico, since he’s wrestling tonight in IWRG’s throwback show. Website’s not coming up for me right now to get the link, but it should be a page or two from here.

A few AAA notes out of today’s Wrestling Observer:

– The WON calls Televisa the original owner of AAA, and says Antonio Pena bought the company from them (and the Roldan’s would own it completely today.)
– X-Pac’s presumed out of AAA. No one’s heard from him since he left to go to the Chicago Comic Con on the 8th.
– Konnan and Hector Melendez ended up doing the commentary for Monday’s taping.
– Konnan’s new Legion may end up being Alex, Teddy Hart (who people aren’t happy with), Nicho, Lider, Tirantes, Rain, and Nikki Roxx (at least when she was planned to come in for FSE.)
– AAA business is down. Cibernetico’s return hasn’t meant anything.

Lots of Box Y Lucha articles:

Fabi Apache and Sexi Star talk about the cage match. Sexi says not to believe the people who say she’ll lose her mask, and instead fans should bring bags to the show to collect Fabi Apache’s hair.
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Cibernetico says he should be the sole #1 contender because he never lost the title. I don’t think that line works when you volunteraly give up the title. He also says he never felt comfortable as a tecnico, but also talks about how the fans were always rooting for him when he was in the indies.

Negro Casas talks about his career, and the possible wrestling debuts of his daugther and wife.

No Limit & Okumura want a trios title shot, figuring they’ve got Hector Garza’s number.

Amapola wants to face Princesa Blanca and unify the women’s championships.

Super Porky talks about how totally busy he is working now that he’s left AAA. Not only him, but his daughters are working continuously. Despite his busy schedule, he’s teaching classes three days a week at Felipe Ham Lee’s gym. Despite all of this work, Porky would go to CMLL if they just called. I don’t know how he ever had the time and sit down for this conversation.

– Villano III talks about the time he let a kid drive his car while he slept, and woke up in a field with four flat tires, and the time his bag with his title belt fell out of the car.

The Gladiatores has video interviews with Ultimo Dragon, Ultraman Jr. and Dinastia.


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16 thoughts to “Thursday notes”

  1. I may be wrong but, I actually think Cibernetico may win at Verano de Escandalo. “Teddy Hart (who people aren’t happy with)” This may be why that match on one of the upcoming TV tapings is “loser leaves town” just a thought.

  2. “Cibernetico also says he never felt comfortable as a tecnico, but also talks about how the fans were always rooting for him when he was in the indies.”

    Coming from the mouth of a guy who started his career under a mask as a tecnico and then turned into AAA’s version of Randy Orton, that pretty funny.

  3. Unless he is taking a vacation I wouldn’t bet on Teddy leaving for one reason – Jack Evans. For reasons that have never been explained aside from “he’s loyal” – Jack *ALWAYS* follows Teddy wherever he goes and does whatever he does. Jack even puts himself in harms way when Teddy acts like a jerk and is about to take a beating. If AAA fired Teddy I have no doubt Jack would leave with him and AAA doesn’t want that. All signs point to Romero losing that cage match since the Koslov in the Legion WON tidbit was from the booker himself.

    BTW, with it being pretty obvious that Konnan hates Cibernetico and was totally against bringing him back – doesn’t it look bad on Dave when he writes:

    “- AAA business is down. Cibernetico’s return hasn’t meant anything.”

    Shouldn’t he qualify that statement by saying “Konnan, who hates Cibernetico, is the source of that tidbit. That’d be like calling Kevin Nash circa 1998 up and asking him how’s business now that Goldberg is on top.

    Another thing – shouldn’t a competent booker be able to keep business up by booking strong angles no matter which wrestlers he is forced to use?

    This is clearly setting the stage for Ciber making another exit from the promotion and a week later Meltzer being given a juicy tidbit: “AAA business is up!”

    Anyways… I chose Mesias b/c he is owed a win. If Konnan’s gossip is true then putting the belt on Cibernetico would be bad and continuously putting over Wagner would anger Mesias. I still wonder if Mesias will ever get that pinfall back over Dr. Ego?

    How awesome is the booking staff when Amapola has to try and start her own feud in a magazine against someone she teams up with every week?

    AAA.com updated their newsbits and the Psycho Circus were mentioned except not by name. The guy who runs the site reads your blog so surely something is up whether they are debuting new guys or he’s playing around with all of us to cover up his original stupidity of not knowing their names.

  4. RFC says AAA is running Arena Monterrey in late September which could be the Pena Memorial for a building that big. Also, there is a big indy show the Plaza De Toros Monumental in early October with indy guys but there would have to be a big stip match up top if they even hope of drawing a passable crowd in that building.

  5. @IKH: Other wrestlers are unhappy that he has good matches with Jack, but only is concerned about getting his moves in against other people.

  6. Teddy is his own worst enemy and if Jack allows Teddy to be his, he is truly a moron. If Teddy was smart like he likes to claim he would still be in the company his bosses regularly try to copy and fail at.

  7. I am not currently subbed to F4W, what exactly is AAA’s plan to “revolutionize wrestling”.

  8. @Kyle: That’s the whole “do a mobile service, do a movie, make a video game” deal.

    So, you know, all things WWE has done. (Yea, “No Holds Barred”, I forgot for a sec too.)

  9. If you take a step back for a sec…

    * Rocky Romero appears in CMLL and is pushed his first time thru with the “Super Ligero” division.
    * He disappears, and turns up in NJPW as Black Tiger 4.
    * While still doing the BT4 gimmick, he came back for another stint in CMLL, and was given the Grey Shadow gimmick (probably to set up a stip loss to Sangre Azteca). Pushed high on cards, despite being lackluster in the ring (compared to 1st CMLL stint)
    *Romero instead jumps ship to AAA; rather than losing the mask, he just takes it off. His reason? He felt held back in CMLL and didnt like working under the mask… which he seemed happy to do in NJPW as BT4.
    * Romero is buddies with Alex Kozlov, from their days training in the Inoki Dojo in LA. Romero gets the CMLL upper-midcard Kozlov to jump ship to AAA as well, so they can team
    * Kozlov does press saying he felt held back in CMLL, and lonely without his friends.
    * After doing the “DeGen-Mex” Gimmick for a few months in AAA, Kozlov and Romero are booked in tags while X-pac feuds with Zorro.
    * Kozlov wins new AAA Cruiser belt tournament and a break with Romero is teased. Romero is featured less on AAA cards after Kozlov’s singles win.
    * Romero loses the BT4 mask to Tiger Mask 4 in NJPW (who seem to work with CMLL, no?). BT5 immediatly debuts, attacking TM4… meaning NJPW isnt killing the gimmick.
    * After picking up the big Triplemania win over Zorro, X-Pac appears to be gone from AAA.
    * Word goes out that there is an upcoming Hart/Evans/Kozlov/Romero stip match where loser leaves town.

    My point to all this: Romero seems to be unhappy everywhere he goes. Even if you take away the end of the first stint in CMLL, Romero appears to have burned bridges with CMLL and NJPW – two of the biggest wrestling promotions in the world – and appears to be on the way out in AAA.
    Based on who AAA has pushed and who they use regularly, I can’t see them having Hart lose this stip (unless its a “gimmick” to do a “Midnight Rider” angle), when Romero is only booked half the time anyway. I think Romero may have just been “used” by AAA to get Kozlov and Corleone.
    Now they appear to be done with him.

  10. Some of these guys just think too highly of themselves. Rocky, Alex and Marco should all feel great full to have had the opportunities they had in CMLL and now in AAA. There are great workers who have busted their asses in these companies for years, even decades, who can’t get out of the lower-midcard. I stopped watching CMLL regularly in 2005 and came back in 2007 to see Alex being pushed on TV as a big deal in the upper card. So in less than two years the guy went from wrestling in the openers of PWG and other socal indys to semi-main eventing one of the biggest wrestling companies in the world. what did the guy have to be upset about? Seriously?

    Rocky is simply a guy who had coasted by for too long on past merits. We all know he had great matches in CMLL in 2003-2004 and even some good stuff in ROH around the same time but what has the guy done in the last 5 years of note. I can only think of the match with Alex and two CMLL matches as Grey Shadow that were above average. He’s been beyond awful at times even appearing to forget how to wrestle when he was Grey Shadow (maybe this was on purpose, I don’t know).

  11. September for the debut on Fox Sports? Be interesting to if Televisa does not air AAA the week of the Fox Sports debut.

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