Month: November 2008

11/30: Todos x El Todos, Lineups

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indy (SUN) 11/23 Centro Deportivo Cordobes, Cordoba, Veracruz [SuperLuchas #292]
1) Maldito & Sombra Negra b Crazy Star & Spider Boy
2) Infierno Negro & Super Orion Jr. b Cometa Azul & Duende Acosta Jr.
3) Ringo Acosta, Rockero Tri, Tigre Blanco b Demonio Rojo, Marinero Acosta Jr., Super Orion
4) Angel del Futuro b Frankenstein 2000 [mask]

Frankenstein 2000 is Raul Gutierrez, 55 years old, 32 years of experience and best known as Barba Negra.

Todo x El Todo (SAT) 11/29 Circo Price, Madrid, Spain [pressing catch via SuperLuchas]
1) Corazón de Barrio b Magno
2) Mascarita Sagrada & Octagoncito b Lobito Feroz & Pierrothito
3) Casandro b Incógnito
4) El Hijo Del Santo & Solar I b Blue Demon Jr. & El Hijo del Solitario

This mini Pierroth with this group has to be a different one, or he’s banned for sure.

SuperLuchas 292 includes an interview with Mil Mascaras, Black Shadow Jr. the promoter of NWE for Mexico (not Juvi.) He says they plan on running two shows in February, and says the wrestlers involved will include Ric Flair, Rob Van Dam, Booker T, Super Nova, Ultimo Dragon, Pac and other usual NWE wrestlers. I’m highly skeptical of those first three names, it may be news to them that they’re working these shows.

Accion had highlights of CMLL’s main event (focus on Shocker and Mistico beating their rivals) and Latin/Zorro from AAA. WWE’s clips were of the women’s match, again.

SuperLuchas says Rey Misterio still has not signed his WWE deal. His old one runs out early next year.

The Gladiatores has an interview with Marco Antonio Moreno of IWRG.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

AULL (WED) 12/03 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Lady Apache & Vicki Carnaza vs Martha Villalobos & Rossy Moreno
2) Danny Boy, La Flecha (Skayde), Lasser vs Bronco (UWA), Rocky Santana, Romano Garcia
3) Villano IV & Villano V vs Scorpio Jr. & Shu el Guerrero and Super Astro & Ultraman and Kahoz & Rambo [Copa UWA Toreo]
4) Dr. Wagner Jr. & Mil Mascaras vs Canek & Dos Caras Sr.

This is the El Toreo farewell show. I’m assuming that’s Skayde there, and not the more recent Flecha.

CMLL (SUN) 12/07 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Imposter & Plata vs Ebola & Fraile de la Muerte
2) Virgo vs Samurai, Thunder Boy, Quazar, Neon, Milenio, Azazel, Relampago Azul [mask]
3) Hijo del Fantasma & La Máscara vs Terrible & Texano Jr.
4) Marco Corelone & Shocker vs Lizmark Jr. & Mr. Niebla

IWRG (SUN) 12/07 Arena Naucalpan
1) Eragon & Goleador vs Anticristo Jr. & Nemsis (IWRG)
2) Marco Rivera & Tony Rivera vs Trauma I & Trauma II
3) Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro vs Black Terry, Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro [EdM Trios]
4) Cien Caras Jr., Hijo del Cien Caras, Máscara Año 2000 vs Arlequin, el Hijo del Pierroth, Pierroth II
5) Scorpio Jr. vs Mascara Ano 2000 Jr. [Rey del Ring]
6) Fuerza Guerrera, Super Astro, Tinieblas Jr., Zumbido vs Head Hunter I, Masada, Tetsuya, Veneno

Tony hasn’t been back in Arena Coliseo since he lost his hair last month to Loco Max (and Arena Mexico since August.) I still maintain that finish was no surprise given how Tony had been using, but the fact that it was no surprise means it’s also no surprise he’s out of there.

This show, IWRG’s 46th anniversary celebration of wrestling in Mexico State (Arena Naucalpan and the predecessors), also goes up against the Perros show and the Sunday Arena Mexico show.

FSE is airing:
– Euforia, Nosferatu, Satánico b Flash, Leono, Stuka Jr.
– La Sombra, Mascara Dorada, Místico DQ Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto

11/29: Neza, Mexico, RVD, lineups

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CMLL (SUN) 11/23 Arena Neza [the gladiatores]
1) Aullido & Beta b Elektro Boy & Magic Man
2) Hermano Muerte II & Hermano Muerte III b Hombre Bala Jr. & Okawa
3) La Nazi & Medussa b Goddess & India Sioux
4) Cocolores, Rayo Tapatío I, Starman DQ Chacmol, Corsario, Ramstein
5) Arkangel de la Muerte, Black Warrior, Sangre Azteca b La Sombra, Mascara Dorada, Stuka Jr.

Ramstein fouled Starman for that DQ. Arkangel beat Sombra in the final fall, which I can’t imagine ever happening on TV.

CMLL (FRI) 11/28 Arena Mexico [SuperLuchas, ESTO, Ovaciones]
1) Metálico & Tigre Blanco b Carrona & Pólvora
2) Amapola, Hiroka, Princesa Sujei b Dark Angel, Princesa Blanca, Sahori
3) Felino, Heavy Metal, Sangre Azteca b Máximo, Mictlán, Volador Jr.
4) Héctor Garza, La Máscara, Mascara Dorada DQ Ephesto, Terrible, Texano Jr.
5) Místico, Shocker, Toscano b Atlantis, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

Shocker pinned Niebla in the main for the clean win. Pesta Negra screwed with Shocker’s father before the match. Terrible fouled Garza in the semimain. Dark Angel had Princesa Sujei beat in the women’s match, but Hiroka (first match in a month) snuck in and over turned the pin for the rudas.

CMLL’s news page teases both Terrible/Garza and Shocker/Pesta as fueds. Maybe something will happen on 12/12, maybe they just needed something to talk about today.

According to the Record, via SuperLuchas, Dos Caras Jr. is off the Perro debut card (at the request of CMLL) and Rob Van Dam *MAY* be on it.

No one’s noticed, since he’s working everywhere else, but according to this article, the DF Box Y Lucha commission suspended Dr. Wagner one month, for throwing that chair earlier this month. The article does note that they’ll let him work the Perro’s debut show.

The Gladiatores has video interviews with Dr. Wagner Jr., and Scorpio Jr.

SuperLuchas looks back at Chris Jericho’s debut in CMLL.

AAA looks back Los Gringos Locos.

Lucha Libre Madrid/London:
– Santo talks to the Sun; it’s correct but unusual when they refer to AAA as the biggest promotion in Mexico
– Santo talks to AS.com and explains that he would beat Rey Misterio Jr. in a fight. Good to know.

LuchaWorld has Robert on IWRG 08/13/06, CMLL TV 09/02/06, and AAA 08/17/06, as well as KrisZ’s news update.

CMLL (TUE) 12/02 Arena Mexico
1) Ángel Azteca Jr., Angel de Oro, Metálico vs Artillero, Pólvora, Súper Comando
2) Dark Angel, Lady Apache, Sahori vs Amapola, Hiroka, Princesa Sujei
3) Mascara Dorada, Máscara Púrpura, Valiente vs Dragon Rojo Jr., Ephesto, Sangre Azteca
4) Mictlán vs Loco Max [hair]
5) Héctor Garza, Hijo del Fantasma, Místico vs Averno, Mephisto, Texano Jr.

Loco beat Tony Rivera, but I don’t think he’s going to build up a win streak here.

CMLL (FRI) 12/05 Arena Mexico
1) Calígula & Méssala vs Molotov & Sensei
2) Bam Bam, Pequeño Olímpico, Último Dragoncito vs Mr. Aguilita, Pequeño Violencia, Pequeño Warrior
3) Hijo del Fantasma, La Máscara, Valiente vs Dragon Rojo Jr., Misterioso II, Virus
4) Máximo, Shocker, Toscano vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Sangre Azteca
5) Héctor Garza, Marco Corelone, Místico vs Atlantis, Rey Bucanero, Último Guerrero

Perhaps they’re actually going somewhere with Shocker vs Pesta, but obviously Garza/Terrible was a one week thing.

CMLL (SUN) 12/07 Arena Mexico
1) Ángel Azteca Jr. & Angel de Oro vs Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Pequeño Damian 666, Pequeño Halloween, Pequeño Warrior vs Nino de Acero, Pequeno Ninja, Pequeño Olímpico
3) Mascara Dorada, Máximo, Valiente vs Felino, Heavy Metal, Sangre Azteca
4) Dos Caras Jr., La Sombra, Toscano vs Ephesto, Misterioso II, Último Guerrero
5) Blue Panther, Héctor Garza, Místico vs Averno, Black Warrior, Mephisto

Arena Coliseo Tag match to be added. Which means we’ll have another Arena Coliseo Tag Team Title match in Arena Mexico. I understand there’s history under that name, but they should’ve just called it (or got) the DF Tag Titles.

As SoloLuchas points out, this runs against the Perro debut show, at discounted prices.

CMLL (SAT) 12/13 Arena Juba de Reynosa [la tarde]
1) Asterisco, Magnifico, Rey Patriota vs Hlacon de Oro Jr., Imagen I, Imagen II
2) Asterisco & Principe Diamante vs La Bestia Negra & Turok
3) Shocker & Toscano vs Terrible & Texano Jr.
4) Marco Corelone & Místico vs Rey Bucanero & Último Guerrero

CMLL’s Ras de Lona is on LATV

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If you have the Latino Alternativo Television Network, you can watch CMLL’s half hour news/recap show. It’s currently airing a half dozen times a week, including 2 AM eastern tonight (and also as I’m typing this.) The new episode seems to be the Wednesday airing.

LATV is actually an over the air channel, so you don’t need cable to get it, but you do need something that picks up digital channels (and cable is helpful there.)

LATV seems to be airing some other 52 MX/MVS television, but not the Guerreros del Ring show. Couldn’t hurt to ask politely on that. The downside is it appears to be on a little bit of a delay; they’re airing matches and talking with angles from the week of 11/09 (and only highlights from the top 3.) Anything’s better than nothing, and it’s nice to get the show where they actually try to get over the angles.

If you don’t get this channel, I will be uploading these.

Qs for the next podcast

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Tony and I will be taping the next Lucha Listen-In next weekend and we will be taking questions again. If there’s something you’d like us to try and answer, please add it as a comment below. Thanks!

11/28: Olimpico, Mexico, GDL, UDG

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(SoloLuchas) The mystery guy in the Perros debut show will be Olimpico. He’s left CMLL and will join this group. Seems like a risky move, but I guess it’s better than being passed up by younger rudos.

CMLL (FRI) 11/28 Arena Mexico
1) Metálico & Tigre Blanco vs Carrona & Pólvora
2) Dark Angel, Princesa Blanca, Sahori vs Amapola, Hiroka, Princesa Sujei
3) Máximo, Mictlán, Volador Jr. vs Felino, Heavy Metal, Sangre Azteca
4) Ephesto, Terrible, Texano Jr. vs Héctor Garza, La Máscara, Mascara Dorada
5) Místico, Shocker, Toscano vs Atlantis, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

Previews
– ESTO
– Notimex
– Ovaciones

Storyline for the show is Shocker’s return and Toscano’s return to the tecnico side. Shocker’s interviewed in Ovaciones, though he doesn’t say much. If CMLL is going to end the year with a big show two weeks from now, they have to make it clear tonight. Perhaps they are setting up a trios title match, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they just ran two normal shows and that was it.

Coliseo Coacalco has a website at http://www.coliseocoacalco.com.mx/.

Ohtani’s Jacket writes about Panther vs Averno

CMLL (TUE) 12/02 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Plata vs Valentin Mayo
2) Carlo Roggi vs Ebola
3) Palacio Negro vs Güero Loco
4) Bam Bam & Último Dragoncito vs Mr. Aguilita & Pequeño Damian 666
5) Casanova vs Super Maquina [mask, hair]
6) Black Warrior, Euforia, Mr. Niebla vs Máximo, Toscano, Volador Jr.

An odd selection of guys for the main event, but usually Euforia and Maximo would be tagging with locals in the semimian. No idea about a winner there.

indy (SUN) 11/30 Arena Tiger Padilla [box y lucha]
1) Colombiano & Cyber Gata vs Blue Ice & Goliath
2) Diablo I & Diablo II vs Erick el Rojo & Hechicero
3) Sic Boy & SKam 13 vs Darlion & Nightmear
4) Volador I vs Volador Jr., Misterioso II, Misterioso Sr. [mask, hair]

Main event has resurfaced, for a different building.

DRAGON GYM (SUN) 12/14 Arena Coliseo [Mr. Burbu @ el Martiente]
1) Negro Navarro vs Terry 2000
2) Marcela & Pequeno Ninja vs Mima Shimoda & Pequeño Halloween
3) Satoshi Kajiwara vs Súper Camaleón, Ministro, Adam Bridle, Trauma I, Trauma II, Disturbio, Miedo [Copa Dragon]
4) Brazo de Platino, La Máscara, Valiente vs Atlantis, Loco Max, Shigeo Okumura
5) Último Dragón vs Ohara [NWA IJH]

Yea, sure, why not. Noon show, with the CMLL guys assuredly working a double header in this building since one-third of the roster will be in Guadalajara on this day. Should I know Adam Bridle? Dragon just won this title in Dradition over Super Delfin, and I’m going to guess Ohara takes it from him to continue his spot as young rudo ace in this non-group. Judging from the poster, the mixed rudo pair was supposed to be Hiroka and Pequeno Damian, but Hiroka’s in GDL.

the simpliest ‘AAA needs to focus more on their own guys’ arguement

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If Konnan really wants to focus on a wrestling style not found on Monday Night RAW so AAA can differentiate themselves from WWE, wouldn’t it be easier/simpler to try LUCHA LIBRE?

Thank you, and good night.