AAA (SUN) 08/31 Parque de Beisbol La Junta, Nuevo Laredo [CHUI @ DVDVR, RFC, El Manana: column, matches]
1) Black Fenix, Principe Diamante, Street Boy b Black Mamba, Penumbra, Violento
2) Fabi Apache & Sexy Star b Cinthia Moreno & La Diabólica
3) Aerostar, Baby Rap, Súper Fly b Rio Bravo, Tigre Cota, Tito Santana II
4) El Elegido, Hombre Sin Miedo, Silver King DQ Antifaz del Norte, Escoria, Ozz
5) Jack Evans & Teddy Hart DQ Joe Lider & Nicho el Millionario and Extreme Tiger & Halloween
6) Cibernetico & Mesias b Konnan & Vampiro [ri]
7) Chessman b Electro Shock [hair]
Go read Chui’s recap. Cibernetico was scheduled to be Chessman’s second, but Chessman’s not that dumb and had him removed and won the match. Konnan replaced Zorro.
El Manana says “a game of jacks would be more interesting than the semifinal.” The Observer implies the problem there was the two teams didn’t not want to work with each – not internally, but there’s a Cibernetico/Chessman/Octagon/Parka/kinda Mesias faction that’s causing problems for everyone else (Vamp and Konnan would be representing the forces of good here, which makes it tough to swallow.)
indy (SUN) 08/31 Arena Monterrey [RFC]
1) ? & Gardenia Azteca b Certero & Chica de Arabia
2) Angel o Demonio b Diabolic, Soldado Diabolico, Dance Boy
3) Alejandro Fernandez & Valente Fernandez b Centurion Negro & Karonte
4) Mr. Texas b Sicodélico Jr.
5) Texas Men L Hator, Aventurero, Estrella Dorado Jr., Golden Boy, Angel Dorado Jr., Simbolo, Sergio Romo Jr., Sangre Chicana, Sangre Chicana [cage, hair]
indy (SUN) 09/07 Arena Coliseo Monterrey [rfc]
1) Bella Rubi & Rey Demonio Jr. vs Dulce Paola & Momia Egipcica
2) Amgel Dorado & Mercurio vs Diablo I & Diablo II
3) Estrella Dorado Jr., Golden Boy, Sangre Chicana Jr. vs Pancho Tequila, Sergio Romo Jr., Simbolo
4) Aventurero, Humberto Garza Jr., Tigre Universitario vs Butcher, Hator, Sangre Chicana
5) Mr. Texas vs Sicodélico Jr.
Main event is nation on nation violence, with Mr. Texas representing the USA. That makes sense, but is pretty funny on other levels unless this is a new Mr. Texas. (But then, Konnan was doing the same thing sooner.)
CMLL (TUE) 09/02 Arena Mexico [CMLL, MT]
1) Molotov & Trueno b Apocalipsis & Inquisidor
2) Hooligan, Loco Max, Nitro b Ángel Azteca Jr., Angel de Oro, Hijo del Faraon
3) Euforia, Nosferatu, Satánico b Axel, Felino, Máscara Púrpura
4) Lizmark Jr., Olímpico, Rey Bucanero b Damián 666, Mr. Águila, Texano Jr. [torneo, semifinal]
5) Blue Panther, La Sombra, Marco Corelone b Heavy Metal, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas [torneo, sf]
6) Blue Panther, La Sombra, Marco Corelone b Lizmark Jr., Olímpico, Rey Bucanero [torneo, fina
Of course the tecnicos win on fan appreciation day. Felino wait until after the tecnicos lose the first fall to turn on his partners (and Axel, in particular.) That would’ve been a huge angle if he had not shown up as a rudo on Friday. Hooligan replaced Halcon Negro, so whatever was going on there seems to be off.
Oddly, no Sunday results. The page is just blank.
Box Y Lucha posted interviews with Head Hunter and Toxico about their departures from AAA. Unlike other recent departures, they both have nothing bad to say about AAA and just talk about wanting more oppurtinties elsewhere. Both make sure to talk about going to IWRG, which seems to be a pattern with these jumps. I don’t think it can be classified as tampering because I don’t think any one’s under contract, but you do get the feeling these AAA guys are getting approached with promises of more dates on the indie scene by outside promoters or they wouldn’t be rushing out of the door.
Blue Panther thinks CMLL won’t change the anniversary main event, because tickets are already on sale for it as a singles match. I wouldn’t be so sure. Meanwhile, Mr. Niebla says that whoever joins Pesta Negra (Felino or anyone else), the idea is to make more noise. “Win or lose, we want to put on a good show.” That’s not very rudo. Niebla says he’d be fine facing Wagner in a mask match but it’s all in the hands of the programming department.
(Reforma via Jazzo) Incognito says he lived with Panico and his family around 2002, just before he started wrestling as Mistico. So, Panico was obviously aware of the gimmick (including the theology training), and sure appears to have ripped it off for CMLL’s character. Incognito says Panico denies all of this, but loses me when he challenges Mistico to a mask vs mask or name vs name match.
AAA’s website has details on Verano de Escandalo…, or, actually, a content on how you can win a trip and tickets to the show? Isn’t kinda of late to do this sort of thing? I mean, judging from all the info they want, it’s part contest, part data collection and you’d like to have as many people as possible sign up so you can collect all their data. But, since it’s a 3 day/2 night package, they really have to have this winner announced quick to alert the winner and fly them out before the show.
SuperLuchas says WWE will be on Televisa and TV Azteca after all. SmackDown will be on TV Azteca on Fridays starting on October 3rd, RAW will are live on TVC Deportes on Mondays starting October 6th and will be repeated on Televisa Channel 5 on a day of the week TBA. Sounds like the US PPV will become PPVs in Mexico; they were free TV specials to this point. Channel 5 mostly runs translated US programs (seemingly aimed at young adults) and lots of moves on weekends, so they surely could find a spot for it.
Ovaciones has a few different noteworthy stories:
– there will be an indy benefit show for Scorpio Jr. on 09/20, in Arena Lopez Mateos (Al Filo del Ring has photos of the 08/29 show in the building, which sets up a match for this show.)
– IWRG’s Sunday main event is a triangle apuesta match – Fuerza’s IWRG welterweight title vs Black Terry’s hair vs Multifacetico’s mask
– Okumura is having more surgery on his collarbone tommorow and will be out six weeks. Fabian el Gitano should never do the Asai moonsault again.
SuperLuchas has postmatch video’s from Arena Mexico show. The Gladiatores has video interviews of Incognito, Negro Navarro, Rambo, Adam Pearce and Brent Albright from the NWA Mexico show. Hablando de Catch has photos from that show, including the best shot of the Navarro/Solar championship I’ve seen.
Over at Luchaworld, Robert raves about ’89 EMLL, and writes about one two three editions of CMLL on 52MX.
WrestlingObserver has it’s FSE recap.
ISW’s Count Dante’s newspaper article driven book tour makes the Chicago Reader today.
A documentary named Lucha Libre premires on Discovery en Espanol next Sunday.
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Who are Adam Pearce and Brent Albright? Are they related to Adam Pearce’s Shirt and Brental Bright?
Gotta love that Incognito. Without the current Mistico turning into a star nobody would give a crap about Incognito. Heck, people don’t even call him Incognito on most shows these days – he’s “Incognito… ex-Mistico de Juarez”. Without that tag added he’s just another random masked flyer.
Ah shit… C3 is moved to 7-9 now which means 8-10 for me. That is NOT going to be mesh well in a month when hockey season starts.
What, no Adam Pearce Shirt interview? Very disappointed.
The semi with Ciber et al, wasn’t that bad-compared to TV main events-, the thing is that normal fans think these guys are incredibly talented superworkers. No one but me mentioned the overkill with the promos, though, 20 times of “mal, mal, mal, mal… eeeeeeeh” and “Ci-ber-ne-ti-co”…
The entire Chessman/Electro match went up on youtube earlier. Are you in the video Chui?
I doubt it, I spent some time moving around in the bleachers, I guess the video would be focusing in the ring not on the bleachers.
Nah, you can totally see the bleachers since it’s shot from far away and it never zooms in.
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=05100137
The videos are there. For some reason I thought I linked to it already.
I wanted to do the Verano trivia but after I filled in all the info it wouldn’t load the trivia page. I would have scored perfect.
I was exactly 1 meter behind the guy with the camera, I saw him taking the video, but moved to the center after the first fall was over.
I dont see de the photos fron NWA show in Hablando de Catch why
If Smackdown gets aired on Azteca live, how would it affect the ArMex shows?
TVC seems to be Puebla’s nemesis, they air RAW live at the same time, and tape the show for a weekend show… attendance is already down for them…
Even the normally forgiving CHIKARA fans have no love for Incognito. (If it weren’t for Lince Dorado, he might be the most disliked luchador on the roster).
Also, Here’s a “blog post” from “Incognito” on the chikara home page:
http://www.chikarapro.com/blog.shtml
@xuisaw: Azteca 7 would be a good move for WWE. 13 is telenovelas, so that not happening on a weeknight. 7 would be great. Simpsons at 8:30, WWE at 9.
WWE is off to a huge advance for the Mexico tour, even with 52mx off cable. I didn’t think anyone would mention that.
Aguascalientes was canceled though.
@xuisaw: that’s ok. rest of the tour will gross in the millions.
They could have made more millions if they had any fans in Aguascalientes though. I guess the guys in Torreon were wiser from realizing this earlier, a few fans ended losing money from Ticketmaster.
Incognito: Why do people dislike him? I don’t think he’s bad at all, matter of fact he’s miles above a lot of the Chikara roster. Obviously Mike must like him or he wouldn’t continue booking him. I seen the video on youtube of him and Pantera having some miscommunication. That kind of stuff happens and I don’t think it’s a big deal.
Oh, it’s his ego.
He’s not better than Mistico but he’s a solid worker.
Incognito is fine but he seems to think he is owed being a star just b/c he was the first guy to use the Mistico name. He needs to stop whining. He got a bad deal in AAA but should give that another shot b/c new people are in charge.
Gotta love the new tidbit in the WON about nobody wanting to work with Vamp and give him anything, even his buddy Mesias. Poor Vamp. Getting the same treatment he gave everyone throughout this entire career. I’m gonna send him a care basket.
I think he’s fine, but not great. He’s had a couple sloppy matches (one possibly due to a knee injury) and I think teaming with Lince gets him some heat by association.
@Rob: I was going to ask about Incognito as well since I think he’s pretty good. The funny thing about his whining about the Mistico gimmick was that when the CMLL Mistico started doing well (from the get-go), he said he was ok with it and wished him luck. The wrestling business can make even a nice guy, bitter.
With so many guys leaving AAA, I could see him getting a second chance with them.
The thing with the original Mistico is that (if you believe the stories) they “sent Luca Brasi” to handle the matter, so whatever he said at the start can’t be taken too seriously as he had no other choice.
I guess some people don’t like him for the same reason (but backwards) than people don’t like Parka-ris, they think he’s living from other’s name. But if what he said is true and Panico did steal not only the name but the sketch of the character, he could have a case, but I doubt it will ever go anywhere.
Incognito is the type of guy AAA wants. Big(ger) guy, can be spectacular, can work with the foreigners and has charisma. I think they should pick him up. He had a bad experience the first time around which was the only thing that is keeping him away AFAIK.
He surely does more than what AAA is willing to pay him. Things might change next year, but then again, there’ll probably dozens of guys willing to work cheaper than him.
In my ’05 review I wrote…
“I wonder who will be the first person to counter La Mistica and pin Mistico clean? Warrior? Perhaps to win the NWA Middleweight Title?”
I WAS RIGHT!
Just a very minor quick addition note to that AAA show in Nuevo Laredo…
Ciber and Chessman tried to murder Vamp backstage in between matches 3 and 4.
@Rob: They still wrestled after the murder attempt! If someone threatened to murder me, I’d probably leave the building and not have a wrestling match were one of your opponents is the one who tried to murder you backstage.
Not Vamp, he stayed b/c he’s a man of the people. The pay is shit, his life is in danger and he still works! WOTY. Fuck that. Humanitarian of the year!
DVDVR is not working at all for me now. I tried posting and if it went through, I’m guessing it will be up there 3x.:)
Here’s what I was trying to post in case it didn’t make its way onto the board:
If this really happened, why stick around for a wrestling match? I just don’t get why Vampiro or Cibernetico would continue beyond an alleged “attempted murder”. This really takes the “show must go on” thing to a whole new level.
If Vamp makes enough to not wrestle in AAA, why not just leave. I’m not saying this story is BS, but all these stories about how many guys dislike him in AAA, makes you wonder why continue with the aggravation. At the very least Vamp, should ask for security protection from the Roldans or Televisa.
Off topic from the Vamp-Ciber “attempted murder”, but Teddy Hart must be in his best behavior because I was expecting some wacky Teddy Hart stories by now.
Someone needs to ask Steve Sims about this because ‘someone’ is claiming he knew the story before them and is the source for all the recent AAA news in the WO involving AAA and Vampiro.
Not looking good for AAA. Sala de Armas photos on their website look like a poorly attended ROH show. Palacio was AAA’s return to DF, and that did nothing special. Cubs noted that “11 days before” VdE there was no lineup. There appear to be problems for sure.
Steve Sims is not the direct source for all the WON news involving Vampiro.
@Rob: Check your mail.
BTW, I’m going to spend all night wondering how no time for me to make posts = the longest comment threads ever.
Probably more to do with the fact I’m at work doing nothing (though today was busy or I’d have started a nice flame war with Bob) and these Vamp stories attract weird people with weird comments which is mostly why these stories get put out there.
“Alfredo:
DVDVR is not working at all for me now. ”
Weird since I tried to log in on luchaworld and the password never worked, used the new password and got the same results… I guess I’m screwing something with the cookies or maybe I got malwere somewhere…