or, reposting emails while waiting to for your pizza to get done:
I got asked in email about ’08 Lucha Libre rookies, because apparently Rookie of The Year is a discussion on the F4 board at the moment. This year is going too fast if we’re already takling OfTheYear stuff (though I believe the cut off here is September to September – I probably should’ve known for sure at some point.) This is what I wrote back…
It’s very difficult to define rookies in Mexico, because a lot of guys
are regional names before they come to CMLL or AAA and a lot of guys
work early matches for a few years before they get much of a push.
They’re never really rookies, but they’re a new star when they’re
pushed that way.Out of CMLL, the closest to ROTYC are
– Hijo del Fantasma (who’d been wrestling occasionally in IWRG and
other small/mid Mexico City metro area groups AND had a few matches
for AAA’s TV back in 2005 as part of a middleweight title tournament
but only started full time with CMLL this year after graduating from
college – see what I mean about it being difficult?)
– Dragon Rojo Jr./Diamante NegroFantasma is clearly the better worker, Dragon Rojo Jr. is slightly
pushed better (won a mask this Friday in Arena Mexico, to a
disappointing turnout.)AAA doesn’t really have any rookie standouts – most of their guys
people think of young were 2006 or 07 startups. Guys that might
qualify include– Argenis (Mistico’s brother, bad and in a minor role)
– Jesse (had a minor role before, had a slightly less minor role this
year and is good)
– Black Abyss (midlevel role, but had short runs with the company in
’04 and ’05 under different names, probably not really a rookie)
– Killer Clown (pushed more than the rest of these, but no one’s quite
sure who’s under the mask – it stands a good chance it’s someone from
Puerto Rico or elsewhere and not a new person.)I’d stick with Hijo del Fantasma and Dragon Rojo Jr.
So who was obvious that I missed? CMLL’s brought in lots of novatos and near novatos (Metalik! Hijo del Faraon!) this year, but I don’t that they really qualify or do much enough to matter.
ROTY comes up every year in the Tapatias, and I don’t go with it because there’s no criteria that completely works for me. I think either you have to go really strict (only promotions X, Y, and Z count, and you’re DQed if you’ve appeared on TV X many times) or something really simple (you’re a rookie only if you’ve never recieved a vote for any award before) – most rookie awards end up in some nebelous middle ground. And I generally don’t think these awards are that useful – a most improved/biggest riser award does a better job of telling what happened that year in wrestling than something that’s going to include/exclude based on arbitararly divisions.
BTW, when Paco Alonso gets in the WON HOF in the next week or so (which I assume is happening), I think I’m going to lose my mind. Even if you believed he should belong, it’s going to be the greatest bad timing award ever.
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These aren’t the strongest of candidates but they are candidates…
– new Mascarita Sagrada
– Mini Dizzy
– Casanova (Guadalajara)
– Electrico (I should double check when he first showed up)
– Angel De Oro
Hmmm… I’ll keep thinking.
No Mexican will ever qualify for ROTY by WON standards as you pointed out so maybe it’s pointless even thinking of candidates.
Yuriko?
El Audaz [/DISCUSSION]
*LMAO*
Isn’t he the guy they’re gonna bring back to raise the anniv. attendance?
Nah, he’ll be in the semi, anniversary show will have Carmelo Reyes vs Perro Sr hair match!!! (I think they might actually have consider this, sadly)