08/15: CMLL press conference notes, CMLL to be pre-empted, Juvi press conference, GDL

CMLL held a press conference yesterday to hype the 08/29 show. Besides Mictlan/Dragon Rojo in a mask match, they also announced

– AJ Styles, Chris Sabin, Alex Shelly vs Ultimo Guerrero, Negro Casas, Atlantis
– Lady Apache & Amapola vs Princesa Sujei & Marcela [relevos increibles, losers meet in an apuesta match directly after)
– Mistico, Dr. Wagner Jr., Shocker vs Rey Bucanero, Black Warrior, Mr. Niebla

Styles being back here plays off UG fouling him to eliminate him during the Gran Prix. The trios titles are not on the line, though they hinted at the press conference they could be added. I would presume it depends on who’s available to do what in September.

SuperLuchas notes none of the women were thrilled with their match, preferring a direct singles encounter. LuchandoLibre says many of the extra press there didn’t understand the rules. SuperLuchas appears to have the teams wrong – the way I’ve got it up there is based on how the rivalries have been going and what CMLL.com has listed. It really doesn’t make sense for Lady Apache to take Amapola’s hair or Sujei to take Marcela’s, since that’d mean they won the apuesta before they actually got the title. My hunch is Sujei’s losing her mask, but I’m not sure. Reforma also places Sujei as the underdog.

Over the last couple of months, Mistico been said to be
– staying in China for the whole Olympics
– staying in China for the whole Olympics, as long as Mexicans do well
– returning on August 29th for this show
returning on August 17th for a Gladiatores Drink show (both this and the previous came out of this press conference)
– returning yesterday for a show in Leon

So, I dunno. It’s worth noting the drink show was announced well before Mistico left for China. Someone probably knew when he was coming and going and didn’t do the best job of explaining it. Or perhaps Mistico is flying all the way back for just a weekend and then heading back to China.

Card order should be interesting. It’ll be a six match show, and I’d presume the women’s match is third and the mask match is fifth. Which ever trios match is on top might be an indication of what plans they have, or maybe it’ll just be completely random.

SoloLuchas has quotes from the press conference and asks Mictlan in a fight, how would it be possible for a snake to beat a dragon?

SoloLuchas and SuperLuchas each say CMLL may be pre-empted this week. Televisa never put the listing on their own website, so who knows. If it is pre-empted, they aired it on CTres’ show last time and would probably do it again.

How do people in Mexico normally find out what’s on TV? I think the biggest polarity in the US are using on screen listings, but there still some who look it up online or buy TVGuide or use whatever supplement comes with their newspaper. (My cable company sends me a guide I never asked for and charges me $3 a month for it.)

(SuperLuchas) Juvi held his own press conference yesterday, and it sounds like everything you could hope for.
– Juvi complained AAA didn’t use a man of his international stature to the fullest. I guess they should’ve scheduled TripleMania for a more convenient date.

– Juvi said he’d like to talk to CMLL about working there, and also would like to face Perro Aguayo Jr. in a match. It doesn’t sound like Juvi knew Perro is hurt.

– Lizzy Valentine, who’s a valet in NWE was announced as Juvi’s offical valet. Lizzy would like to face Dark Angel in a match. It doesn’t sound like Lizzy knew Angel is hurt.

– Juvi announced a new factions called the SexiCools. Do you think he’ll just wear the Mexicool gear with a big S covering the M? It’ll be him, Intocable (also there) and another person that they haven’t figured out yet. You think if they knew, they would announce it when there was press called there to specifically record it, so they probably don’t know.

– Juvi also says he’s going back to Spain from mid-September to the end of the November, so this group seems to have all the momentum of Garza’s Guardian Angels.

– Fuerza Guerrera was there to support his son and kill off his feud with Juvi. Fuerza likes Juvi being a tecnico and vows never to face him in a match again. Fuerza’s a smart guy.

– Martha Villalobos was there. I’m not sure why, but I presume Juvi’s working her shows at some point. She took the opportunity to say the Royal Air Force were leaving AAA next. She actual means Rey Cometa and Pegasso, who have left already and are working her shows.

– Juvi said he’s the offical NWE contact for Mexico, and you have to talk to (kiss up/help) him to get booked there. I guess that means Tzuki and Super Nova are actually Japanesse?

CMLL (SUN) 08/10 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Idolo & Imposter b Egipcio & Frayle de la Muerte
2) Neutrón & Virgo b Depredador & Güero Loco
3) Mr. Niebla b Stuka Jr., Olímpico, Máscara Púrpura, Hijo del Fantasma, Satánico, Axxel, Euforia, Máscara Púrpura, Flash [ciber]
4) Sangre Azteca b La Sombra [NWA WELTER]

Final three was Niebla, Stuka and Olimpico. Stuka beat Olimpico, but Niebla got him with Nelbina. Pretty good showing for Stuka anyway. Sangre won the first fall of the title match with the counter dropkick, but Sombra took the second and third to retain the title.

CMLL (TUE) 08/12 Arena Mexico [ESTO, CMLL]
1) Apocalipsis & Ramstein b Angel de Oro & Sombra de Plata
2) La Seductora, Medussa, Princesa Sujei b Goddess, Marcela, Princesa Blanca
3) Hijo del Faraon, Leono, Máscara Púrpura b Bronco, Dr. X, Skandalo
4) Dragon Rojo Jr., Ephesto, Sangre Azteca DQ Axxel, Mictlán, Sagrado
5) La Sombra, Marco Corelone, Volador Jr. b Mephisto, Terrible, Texano Jr.

Sombra KOed Texano with a dive, and he was stretchered out. Dragon fouled Mictlan for the DQ, then took his mask after the match. Sujei pinned Marcela while grabbing the bottom rope.

AAA posted more videos: Alas de Oro pre-match promo, Chessman and Cibernetico not getting along, Mini Charly advancing, Apaches vs Morenos and the new look Gronda winning the main event. BTW, I’ve worked on a solution for AAA’s RSS not working if anyone’s interested, but I want to wait a couple more days to see if it keeps working.

There’s a lucha libre exhibit at New Mexico’s National Hispanic Cultural Center. It’ll be there from August 8 to January 11.

ESTO previews the Arena Mexico show tonight, with Wagner vs Niebla for the UWA belt on top. Back when this feud was LA Park vs Dr. Wagner, it collapsed when Park was told he was losing the plan was for him to lose UWA title match and the mask match. Wonder if the same plan is in effect here.

Meanwhile, AAA also tapes in Mexico City.

CMLL overseas:
SuperLuchas has a photo of Mistico and Averno battling in China with more coming in this week’s magazine.
– They also say less than 2,000 turned out for the first CMLL Spain show in Valencia. There’s news video of the show here.

Box Y Lucha 2883 has Blue Panther vs Villano V. They’re at boxylucha.net for some reason. Meanwhile, Record Lucha #4 has Los Perros as Reservoir Dogs. I know everyone thinks that movie is cool, but everyone ends up dead or hauled off to jail, and it’s kinda a testament to why being a bad guy in a group can turn out be better. This is why I prefer to be the solo criminal who gets away clean.

CMLL (MON) 08/18 Arena Puebla [hugo999]
1) Asturiano, SWAT, Toro Bill Jr. vs Aguila Guerrera, Espiritu Maligno, Karisma
2) Bronco III, Semental, Siki Ozama vs Ángel Azteca Jr., Black Tiger, Hijo del Faraon
3) Grey Shadow, Mictlán, Sagrado vs Ephesto, Misterioso II, Sangre Azteca
4) Dr. Wagner Jr., Marco Corelone, Shocker vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero
5) Último Guerrero vs Blue Panther

I don’t know that what it means, but it’s interesting that CMLL is sending even the opening card guys onto the road lately. Sensei working in Guadalajara, Semental working here.


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6 thoughts to “08/15: CMLL press conference notes, CMLL to be pre-empted, Juvi press conference, GDL”

  1. I was thinking CMLL needed to do 5-7 thousand to get even so this less than 2000 is not good, but who knows, at least it was not canceled. Maybe they’ll built momentum, but I got the feeling the promoters will end up losing quite a lot, but no damage should be suffered by CMLL.

    AAA has not been making noise for tonight’s taping, but word is that they sold out Centro de Convenciones in Tlalne, so I’m guessing those shows draw with the people who live close so there’s no need to be all over the place advertising. I expect a Tlalnepantla taping next month or by October… it’s also kinda weird that no AULL or IWRG results have popped up yet (were they all at AAA’s show???)

    Pretty ironic it came down to Niebla vs Stuka Jr since the later has been considered a new version of the former (although I would say Stuka has more matwork in him). So the results are wrong and Sombra won?

    Juvy and Lizzie not knowing about other’s injuries probably show that they’re not part of that 3.28 rating… Keith, you’re the one to blame for this newer Paco burst of anger for exposing them so he’s pulling the show off Televisa again… hehehe

    CMLL has kids for free in the bleechers, so it seems now they don’t care about AAA’s show.

  2. SuperLuchas cleared up the CMLL TV mess:

    IMPORTANTE: Debido a los Juegos Olímpicos, este sábado 16 de Agosto NO será transmitida esta función por Televisa. La transmisión será el Domingo 17 DE AGOSTO, a las 12:00 p.m., EN CADENA 3

    It’s a 2 hour show too so it looks like top 4 from Friday will air while nothing gets missed the day before from Tuesday’s show. It also means whatever airs on Canal52MX next week is VERY interesting b/c it could be the AMAZING LOOKING Arena Mex opener. Heck – that could air on C3 on Sunday if they don’t air the ladies since it was pre-booked for Canal52MX. Hmmm…

    12:00pm is way early though…

  3. But they still are out of Televisa, although TVGuide still have them there… well, they list a lucha show for that hour…

  4. And well, the lucha show might be WWE so it is not necessarily lucha libre but it’s called like that over here.

  5. NOT ONLY THE MEMBERS OF THE PRESS WERE CONFUSED, ALSO THE FEMALE WRESTLERS, SINCE THEY WERE INFORMED IN THE LAST MINUTE THAT THEY SHOULD BE AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE.

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