CMLL #214

from way back on yesterday (2006.03.11), taped last October.

I believe was the match where the fans were booing Atlantis and we (and by we, I mean I) were thinking CMLL had screwed up with the Atlantis stuff so much it was hurting other people, namely Mistico. This is where not having the current A-Show dramatically hurts analysis, because it becomes instantly obvious that a lot of the boos were simply for Mistico being really below par in this match. He was very much off, and the boos (some of which were before he started screwing up) messed with his head and he completely unraveled by the time he went for the moonsault. There were people who were unhappy with Mistico and probably felt the wrong guy was winning, but based on the crowd reaction at the end of the match, the booing was all based on his performance level during the match.

The other interesting note out of the singles match is Atlantis has a lot of offense when he wants to show it off. Off the top of my head, he used a rebound suplex (which was nearly a rebound brainbuster), a hangman neckbreaker, and a top rope somersault senton, none of which are regulars in his matches. At the same time, Atlantis wasn’t nearly as rudo-ing it up as much as he has on the GdR stuff – did he exchange the moves for the bits along the way or was he showing off for this match? He’d be really good if he brought both the moves and the act.

The crazy brawl was indeed a crazy brawl.

Maybe 1, maybe 2 more recaps tonight. Depends on how much bracket stuff/baseball stuff I get hooked into.

03/10 news: Arena Mexico results, tv notes

CMLL (FRI) 03/10 Arena Mexico Results [ova]
1) Loco Max, Ramstein b Neutrón, Sensei
2) Hombre Sin Nombre, Sangre Azteca, Shigeo Okumura b Pantera, Virus, Volador Jr.
3) Atlantis, Pierroth, Universo 2000 b Blue Panther, Lizmark Jr., Lizmark Sr.
They’re building Atlantis/Blue Panther again. There’s been some murmurs that Panther will lose his mask sometime this year to Atlantis on the way to a reduced schedule/retirement.
4) Averno, Black Warrior, Mephisto b Heavy Metal, Mistico, Negro Casas
Warrior pulled Mistico’s mask in the final fall, without the ref seeing it, and rolled him up for the win.
5) Dr. Wagner Jr., LA Park, Mr. Niebla b Damián 666, el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Héctor Garza
Universo clocked Perro with a metal object, which caused him to be strechered out and his team to lose.

Gala aired the scheduled episode.

GdR aired
03/03: Maximo, Pantera, Texano Jr. b Dr. X, Loco Max, Nitro
03/05: Black Warrior, Dr. Wagner Jr., Último Dragón DQ Chuck Palumbo, Johnny Stamboli, Pierroth
Warrior worked as a normal tecnico for all but five seconds of the match (and those weren’t near the finish.) They promoed the new timeslots hard thru the show, but you kinda want to do that before you do the switch.

03/10 Lucha Wiki Update

I’ve updated the main page, just a day late

Championships with ten links or more I have left:

Worth doing
* National Atomics Title – not 10, but probably would be if we had more AAA profiles.
* National Lightweight Title – dead, though very big in the 30s-80s
* UWA World Trios Titles – classic UWA Title, flipped into a Toryumon belt.
* WWA World Welterweight Title – Santo’s peputal title. Holds it now.

In no hurry
* UWA World Welterweight Titles – ends up floating around Japan, then indy Mexico, then Toryumon.
* UWA World Middleweight Title – super indyish Japan belt
* UWA World Lightweight Title – Kato Kung Lee Jr. may be carrying it around as decoration now.
* WWA World Tag Team Titles – random confusing history, but shows up on CMLL TV occasionlly
* WWA World Heavyweight Title – Rayo’s trinket.
* WWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Title – J-Crown belt turned Tijuana belt (knockoff?)
* WWA World Trios Titles – lots of gaps
* DF Trios Titles – no records
* DF Welterweight Titles – no records

Suggestions? The other big Wanted left are some basic moves (which I’d like to wait to do animated GIFs, but my TiVo stuff isn’t high quality enough to work with it yet), locations (which will probably just mostly be links to wikipedia) and dates (which I was going to figure out what to do with, and never quite did.)

I think I’d like to do groups next, though I probably should do some more help. Eh. Everyone should just do what they want.

03/10 news: Arena Aficion results, Mexico & Rey de Reyes preview

CMLL (TUE) 03/07 Arena Aficion Results [ova]
1) Astro Boy, Kid Tiger ?? Leon Guerrero, Skandalo
2) Chris Hero, Claudio Catagnoli b Batman, Skayde
match wasn’t what Correspondent was expecting – no idea if that’s good or bad. HERO 1, BATMAN 0.
3) Rey Bucanero, Titan b Black Warrior, Exotico
Warrior turned on his partner; two falls.
4) Máscara Año 2000, Universo 2000 b Dr. Wagner Jr., Silver King
Capos low blowed the Wagners in the third fall

Brazo de Oro apparently didn’t show last week for the big Brazos/Villanos trios match (ovaciones never posted results), but he appeared this week to apologize and explain he was in the hospital. He challenged the Villanos to a rematch.

Ovaciones also has an interview with Black Warrior to set up this week’s Arena Mexico show. He points out he’s won masks before – from the original Bronco – and he could do it again. He doesn’t want to face Mistico in a mask match yet though; Warrior figures the only fair thing to do is to beat up Mistico a few times so Mistico knows what he’s getting into. He hasn’t decided if he’s going to join the Guerreros or go it alone (which I take as meaning he hasn’t been actually asked.)

Tonight’s also the Rey de Reyes show in Tamaulipas. I expect we’ll get results from it sometime around next Thursday. (Will Ron Killings start a riot?) Credit to AAA: they’re using the actual spelling of their foreigners. Ovaciones corrects Box Y Lucha and has the correct Intocable match (vs Alan Stone.)

I’d bust out the graphics for this card but half the card is a mystery (or I haven’t bothered to create a profile for Samoa Joe.)

AAA (FRI) 03/10 Centro de Convenciones, Ciudad Madero, Tamaulipas
1) Cynthia Moreno, La Diabólica, Lola Gonzalez, Martha Villalobos, Tiffany vs Amano, Kansai, Nagashima, Nishio, Osaki
This is another Mexico vs Japan bit with the same result.
2) el Ángel, Pimpinela Escarlata, Zorro vs Charly Manson, Electro Shock, Hator
3) Intocable vs Alan Stone [street fight, gimmick]
The dealio here is everyone wants to be a cowboy looking dude, but only one man will still be allowed to do so.
4) La Parka Jr., Octagón, Vampiro vs Chessman, Cibernetico, Muerte Cibernetica vs Konnan, Ron Killings, Samoa Joe vs Scorpio Jr., Shocker, Zumbido [Rey de Reyes]
My AAA knowledge exemplified: they’ve been using Muerte Cibernetica in tapings for months and I have no idea who it is – maybe the guy who was the evil La Parka II for a couple shows? I’m guessing this might actually be a tournament, and either the final pinfall wins the title or the captian does. Probably same thing.

According to this post, Mascarita Sagrada is telling people the Juniors were cut because it cost too much to fly them in. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what the WWE told them, but I think they just had no idea what to do with them once they were there and since they didn’t immediately get over huge, they were easy to let go.

el Halcon #56 is up!

– Interview with Olimpico. He thinks 2005 was generally good, except for that whole breaking the neck thing. He did come back faster than doctors said he would. He likes the addition of Atlantis to the group, because it allows for more combinations. Olimpico thought looked good before, but set himself to get even better, and now feels he’s got the best body in the sport.

Olimpico eats five meals a day, supervised by his personal nutritionist, and works out at least two hours each day. He wants a match with Dr. Wagner Jr. Olimpico assures the public that he’s not an ugly man under the mask.

– Bio of Anibal, 12 years after his death.
– In IWRG news, Veneno offered el Hijo del Solitario and Silver King to join his rudo Corporation. Solitario said no, and Silver King says it depends on how money he’s getting the deal.

– Long, informative, good interview with Sombra de Plata. I believe Sombra says he’s current rehabbing a fractured wrist and may be out four months, but I’m not sure.

He always wanted to be a luchador, his father having been one, though he never quite realized his father was a rudo. He modeled his wrestling style around La Fiera. The original Sombra de Platas – one Juarez, one closer – were friends of his father and gave him the okay to use the name. He had a partner, but partner retired. Sombra’s changed his mask because he just had trouble seeing thru the mesh holes.

Sombra credits Rodolfo Ruiz, Franco Colombo, Memo Diaz, Negro Casas with training him, with a little bit of help from Atlantis and Blue Panther. He trained five years in Olympic style wrestling before starting learning the professional style. Sombra says he debuted on 12/12 (or 24)/99, but that may be only for this gimmick. He doesn’t feel has the personality to be a rudo. His career highlights are working in the tercera of an Arena Mexico anniversary show and working the semi-main of an Arena Mexico show, teaming with Ricky Marvin against Fugaz & Sangre Azteca in a lighting match. He hopes CMLL never changes from it’s current style.

– Q&A with Flecha. His favorite arena is Arena Coliseo, which explains so much. He likes teaming with Super Comando and fighting Los Rayo Tapatitos most.

– Quick notes on Sombrita. He’s looking to take Bam Bam’s hair.

– Rankings! #1s..
Lightweight: Crazy Max
Welterweight: Misterioso II
Middleweight: Negro Casas
Light Heavyweight: Atlantis
Heavyweight: Mr. Niebla
Minis: Sombrita
Women: Marcela

– Interview with Rey Tigre. He’s actually from Cancun, not Monterrey. He was trained by Rey Aguila and el Mongol

– Poster of Solar I

well what was the point of that?

WWE.com says they’ve released the entire Juniors division
– Mascarita Sagrada
– Tsuki
– Mini Violencia
– Octagoncito
– Piratita Morgan (who I don’t even remember making TV!) (though that’s just my memory)
– Super Porky (who never got a match!)

I hope the minis and Porky got the most (money, catering, everything) they could get out of this and that they weren’t planning on it lasting too long to begin with.

All these guys were still wrestling in Mexico of late, so I’m sure they had a feeling how it was going to go down.