Month: November 2005

Upcoming Congress Show

thecubsfan

Also in Box Y Lucha’s listings:

FMLL? (SUN) 11/27 Congress Theatre Lineup [box y lucha]
1) ?
2) ?
3) Guerrerito del Futuro & Mini Charly Manson vs Gringo Loco & SWAT Kat
4) Mascara Sagrada & Discovery vs Shamu Jr. & Aguila del America
5) Blue Demon Jr. & Brazo de Plata vs Satacnio & Villano III

I’m guessing five matches. Don’t know for show. Box Y Lucha has a listing of a 5PM start, which can’t possibly be true. At Congress’ website, you can reserve free tickets, though I’d guess that doesn’t include ringside. I’ve heard a report that they won’t be selling tickets at the door, but that’s more improbable to me than the 5PM start time.

Park and Wagner were orginally scheduled, but if you can check out the lineup, you’ll see they took a booking in Torreon; Park and Black Tiger are (supposed to be) working to a mask/mask there, so even if Congress paid better now (and I don’t know that they did), Park had to take that booking for what it pays later.

Sometimes, I can’t believe people in Mexico City have a better idea of what the card is at Congress than myself, who’s no more than a hour away from the front door. Then, I think about it a little more, and I’m not that surprised.

I’ve seen Blue Demon enough times now, I think I have enough stamps on my card to get in free next time, and I’ve seen Villano IV a fair bit too – but I do want to see Porky and Satanico so if I can go, I’m probably going. I just won’t know if I’m free to go until, literally, the moment I get in the car and start driving.

11/21 notes

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CMLL (SUN) 11/20 Arena Coliseo Results [ova]
1) Danger & Molotov b Super Comando & Artillero
2) Tigre Blanco & Tigre Metalico b Mesala & Caligula
3) Nitro b Leono to win the Cibernetico. Other particpants included La Mascara, Maximo, Pantera, Dr. X, Mr. Mexico, and Arkangel.
Not order of elimination. Tigre Hispano appeared to slow count Leono a few times when he had Nitro down.
4) LA Park, Heavy Metal, Negro Casas b Canek, Rey Bucanero, Misterioso II
Park took a break during the match to eat a quesadilla. No, really.
5) Tarzan Boy b Hector Garza
Good match. Hector complained that Tarzan had the ropes, but the report doesn’t explain if he did.

CMLL (TUE) 11/15 Arena Queretaro Results [KrisZ]
1) X-Men b Money Pack
2) Jeque & Rojo b Lince & Sombra de Plata
3) Rayo Tapatio I & II b Los Drabek I & II
4) Tigre Blanco & Tigre Metalico b Nitro & Dr. X
5) Hijo del Santo & Ultimo Dragon b Blue Demon Jr. & Tarzan Boy

Azteca (WED) 11/17 Arena Xalapa Lineup [KrisZ]
1) Pegasso de Plata & Star BOY b Bandolero & Rey Tiburon
2) Eslabon Perdido, Caballero Negro Jr., Medico Infernal b Saumrai, Trueno, Juventud Rebelde
3) Angel o Demonio & Shiryu Dragon b Crazy Boy & Joe Lider [extreme]
4) Scorpio Jr. b Villano III
Low blow, not caught. This match sets up the hair match.
5) Angel Blanco Jr., Head Hunter I, Medico Asesino Jr. b Ultimo Dragon, Axxel, Mr. Niebla

indy (WED) 11/17 Arena Isabel de Cuernavaca Results [KrisZ]
1) Black Thunder & Cinico b Turbo & ?
2) Safari & Virus b Impacto & Veneno
3) Satanico & Solar I DRAW Emilio Charles Jr. & Negro Navarro
4) Dos Caras, Dos Caras Jr., Mil Mascaras b Hijo del Canek, Mascara 2000, Rey Bucenro

Mora (WED) 11/17 Arena Puebla Results [KrisZ]
1) Black Panther, Super Kiss, Vangelis b Blackman II, Hijo del Espanto, Siki Osama Jr.
2) Averno & Mephisto b Mano Negra Jr., Sagrado
3) Villano IV b Hijo de Rayo de Jalisco Jr. [WWA LH]
4) Perro Aguayo Jr. & Ultimo Guerrero b Hijo del Santo & Mistico [WWA TAG]

If you haven’t yet seen it, El Hijo del Santo has a message for Eddie Guerrero on his website.

Box Y Lucha #2741 is up. Lucha magazines in general appear to go to press on Sunday to be on newsstands on Monday, so Eddie Guerrero’s death couldn’t have been covered until this week. That’s the case here; Eddie’s on the cover and poster, and I’m sure a long article, but it doesn’t make the web. The main stories:
– Shocker’s still working on doing the Guapo U thing in AAA
– Super Porky relates his WWE adventure. If I’m reading this right, he’s still waiting for the full time contract to be sent to him. Not a good sign: he had trouble getting in the building at the taping because No One Knew Who He Was. Porky only thinks he’s working Monday and Tuesdays for WWE, so he hopes he’s free to work with CMLL on his off days.
– Ultimo Guerrero, Rey Bucanero, Negro Casas and Blue Panther put aside their rivalaries and hug out with the kids from the yearly Telethon for a day.
– there’s another story I think about some problems with a Texano benefit show in Guadalajara, but I can’t make sense of it.

Box Y Lucha will be talking to India Sioux at 2PM today.

11/21 lineups

thecubsfan

CMLL (MON) 11/21 Arena Puebla Lineup [box y lucha forum, KrisZ]
1) Forajido & Sol de Fuego vs Espiritu Maligno & Mr. Rafaga
2) Blue Center, the Tigre, Tigre Rojo vs Bobby Jack, Karisma, Tarahumara
3) Centella de Oro, Lestat, Volador Jr. vs Enterrador Dos Mil, Escandalo, Furia Chicana
4) Heavy Metal, La Mascara, Negro Casas vs Averno, Mepshito, Hijo de Cien Caras
5) LA Park, Dr. Wagner, Mistico, Lizmark Jr. vs GdI (Olimpico, Rey Bucanero, Tarzan Boy, Ultimo Guerrero)

CMLL (TUE) 11/22 Arena Coliseo Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Molotov & Zetta vs Polvora & Vaquero
2) Kronos, Stuka Jr., Trueno vs Ramstein, Jeque, Zayco
3) Texano Jr., Tony Rivera, Crazy Boy vs Hooligan, Nitro, Apocalipsis
4) Brazo de Plata, Felino, Satanico vs Tarzan Boy, Mascara Ano 2000, Terrible
4) Mistico, Negro Casas, Blue Panther vs Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Averno, Mephisto

CMLL (TUE) 11/22 Arena Aficion Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Concord Jr. & Luger vs Hidroman & Medic’s Jr.
2) Skandalo & Intruso Jr. vs Zayco & Titan
3) Brazo de Oro & Brazo de Platino vs Negro Navarro & Signo
4) Heavy Metal, Dos Caras Jr., Lizmark Jr. vs Pierroth, Pierroth Jr., Hijo de Pierroth

AAA (WED) 11/23 Auditorio Carlos Serdan Arechavaleta Lineup [box y lucha]
1) ?
2) Rocko Marvin, Caballero Imperial, Junior vs Buitre, Red Terror, Sombra Guerrera
3) Conquistador, Rey Egipto, Ferrari Jr., Sangre Y Fuego vs Dr. Crimen, Practicante, Quimico, Hijo del Buitre
4) Estrellita & Billy Boy vs El Apache & Tiffany
5) La Parka, Luzbel, Zorro vs Cibernetico, Abismo Negro, Chessman

Texano Tribute (THU) 11/24 Arena Coliseo Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Rocky Santana, Spider Boy, Vaquero Jr., Gallo Tapado Jr. vs Jose Luis Feliciano, Black Terry, Kiung Fu Jr., Mano Negra Jr.
2) Super Muneco, Super Raton, Super Pinocho vs Los Payasos (Coco Rojo, Coro Verde, Coco Blanco)
3) Bestia Salvaje, Canek Jr., Pentagon Black, Shu el Guerrero vs Hijo de Pierroth, Kahoz, Misterioso Jr., Cuchillo
4) Ultraman, Solar, Super Astro vs Villano IV, Villano V, Rambo vs Texano Jr., Indomito, Signo vs Brazos (brazo de Oro, Brazo de Plata, Brazo de Platino) [tournament]
5) Dr. Wagner Jr., Bronco, Heavy Metal vs Canek, Hector Garza, Scorpio Jr.
Oddly, Silver King was listed earlier in Bronco’s place.

AAA (THU) 11/24 Deportivo San Pedro Lineup [box y lucha]
1) ?
2) Pinochito, Caramelito, Maguito Fantasma vs Payasito Fantasma, Jibarito, Jibarito II
3) Freesbee, Raider, Tiger Tatuado vs Insectos (Mosca, Abeja, Hormiga)
4) May Flowers, Estrellita, Barbie vs Polvo de Estrellas, Tiffany, Lady Maldad
5) La Parka & Nautillius vs Cibernetico & Chessman

IWRG (THU) 11/24 Arena Naucalpan Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Freesbee vs Rey Estruendo
2) Antaris & Ultra Mega vs Super Colt & Paramedico
3) Suicida, Kendo Jr., Kung Fu Jr. vs Macho Pump, Tomoya, Black Jaguar
4) Pantera, Veneno, Dr. Cerebro, Cerebro Negro vs Masada, Nitro, Averno, Mephisto
5) Hijo de Lizmark, Dos Caras, Dos Caras Jr. vs Head Hunter I, Pierroth, Scorpio Jr.

CMLL (FRI) 11/25 Arena Mexico Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Leono & Valiente vs Super Comando & Artillero
2) Volador Jr., Virus, Sagrado vs Sangre Azteca, Hombre Sin Nombre, Misterioso II
3) La Mascara, Mr. Niebla, Black Warrior vs Tarzan Boy, Rey Bucanero, Olimpico
CMLL.com confirms this is the current match. I don’t expect Black Warrior to actually be there, but we’ll see.
4) Hijo del Santo, Negro Casas, Blue Panther vs Atlantis, Averno, Mephisto
5) Universo 2000, Ultimo Guerrero, Pierroth vs Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Hector Garza, Halloween

AAA (FRI) 11/25 Gimnasio Jose Maria Arteaga, Queretaro [box y lucha]
TV Taping
1) Billy Boy, Rey Cometa, Laredo Kid vs Apache, Kaoma Jr., Rio Braco
2) Charly Manson vs Zumbido [MEX MW tounament]
I believe this is a semifinal, but I’m not completely sure. Accion aired highlights of Zumbido vs Oriental in an earlier round match this past weekend.
3) Angel, Electro Shock, Histeria vs Abismo Negro, Psicosis, Hator
4) Intocable vs Shocker [bull terrier]
5) La Parka,, Octagon, Zorro vs Cibernetico & La Religion Secta Cibernetica
who knows

MAX PROAD (SAT) 11/26 Auditorio Municipal, Tlaxcala [box y lucha]
1) Amenaza vs Dragon Rojo
2) Princesa Dorada & Diosa Maya vs Medusa & Migala
3) La Parkita & Aguilita Solitaria vs Calaquita & Payasito
4) Huracan Ramirez Jr. & Black Shadow Jr. vs Enfermero Jr. & Brazo Jr.
5) Black Warrior & Mr. Niebla vs Hijo de Pierroth & Terrible

indy (SAT) 11/26 Auditorio de la Escuela, Zitacuaro, Michoacan Lineup [box y lucha]
1) ?
2) Panterita & Aguilita Solitaria vs Mini Hooligans
3) Queen & Madonna vs Turbo & Kid Tiger
4) Justice League of Mexico (Batman, Robin, Spiderman) vs Skandalo, Andy Barrow, Black Dragon
5) Mistico & Dr. Wagner vs Ultimo Guerrero & Rey Bucanero

CMLL (SUN) 11/27 Arena Coliseo Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Danger & Molotov vs Caligula & Zayco
2) Virus, Tigre Blanco, Tigre Metalico vs Arkangel, Loco Max, Hooligan
3) Lizmark Sr., Pantera, Metro vs Misterioso II, Dr. X, Masada
4) Canek & Canek Jr. vs Pierroth & Hijo de Pierroth
5) Mistico, Hijo de Lizmark, Mr. Niebla vs Tarzan Boy, Mascara Ano 2000, Olimpico

CMLL (SUN) 11/27 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Nube Roja vs Infierno
2) Tzuky & Bam Bam vs Mini Damian 666 & Mini Halloween
3) Chris Stone & Neutron vs Magnum & Malefico
Odd for Chris to be working a CMLL show. Not sure if this means he’s done with AAA already. Check out the next show listing.
4) La Mascara, Felino, Safari, Brazo de Oro vs Averno, Mephisto, Emilio Charles Jr., Okumura
5) Rayo de Jalisco & Rayman vs Atlantis & Ultimo Guerrero

AAA (SUN) 11/27 Colonia Narvarte, DF Lineup [box y lucha]
1) ?
2) Rocky Marvin & Mini Pather Finder vs Jerrito Estrada & Mini Chessman
3) Cinthia Moreno & Lady Rabbit vs Miss Janeth & Chola
4) Ultraman Jr. & Nautillius vs Ghefar & Alliens
5) Super Calo, Mascara Sagrada Jr., Alan Stone vs Espectro Jr., Espiritu, Nygma
I’m thinking either this match or the Chris Stone appearance won’t go as listed. Tough to make them both work.

IWRG (SUN) 11/27 Arena Naucalpan Lineup [box y lucha]
1) ?
2) Gran Cuchillo & Aquiles vs Black Jaguar & Paramedico
3) Kendo Jr., Kung Fu Jr., Suicida vs JdA (Pirata Morgan, Nemesis, Kaleth)
4) Veneno, Dr. Cerebro, Cerebro Negro vs Macho Pump, Tomoya, Andy Barrow
5) Hijo de Lizmark, Pantera, Misterioso II vs Canek, Scorpio Jr., Bestia Salvaje

Indy (SUN) 11/27 Auitorio Municipal, Torreon Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Brillante & Mini Halcon vs Oso Negro & Moro Jr.
2) Conflictus, Fantastik I, Fantastik II vs Super Leopardo, Super Star, Chamaco Trevino
3) Octagoncito & Mascarita Sagrada vs Bracito de Plata & Pentagoncito
4) Texano Jr., Tony Rivera, Hijo del Soberano vs Mr. Power, Hijo del Diablo, Hijo de Cien Caras
5) Santo, LA Park, Dos Caras Jr. vs Dr. Wagner Jr., Black Tiger, Mr. Aguila

Three CMLL Recaps

thecubsfan

Here’s what I got. I was gonna do one more, but goofied off instead.

last weekend’s CMLL (#193): Dos and Ultimo was okay, but…there were all the normal agonizing flaws of lucah singles matches. Super fast opening falls and selling every move as exhausting in the third doesn’t allow the match to get into any particular rhythm or build any monetuem. The “move, pose and yell at the crowd, setup, move, cover for two, both lay on the mat for a bit” style doesn’t work unless they’ve made the exhaustion belivable based on what happened before, and that didn’t happen here.

07/16 CMLL (#179): Averno/Mistico was good overall, but that first fall was the opposite of good. Not the MOTYC you’d want or that Coliseo match supposedly was.

07/23 CMLL (#180): Trios trios trios, all build for later matches, and nothing super here, though the Mistico/Ultimo was fun. The Coliseo one was below expectations for that crew.

I hope to get to at least Mistico/Ultimo this week. Maybe more.

11/20 news

thecubsfan

In the preview for tonight’s Arena Coliseo main event, Ovaciones says that despite Tarzan Boy teaming with the Perros and wearing the shirt and winning the trios title, he was never actually a member. Right.

Cerebro Negro won the whatever 30 man IWRG match. Final was him and Nitro.

Ovaciones says Scorpio Jr. and Villano IV will meet in a hair/hair match, but that wouldn’t make much sense. Probably meant III. I’ll figure out tommorow.

Tonight’s Arena Neza main event is LA Park & Dos Caras vs Ultimo GUerrero & Rey Bucanero, with a semimain of Danger, Tigre Blanco and Tigre Metalico versus Apocalipsis, Super Comando, and Artillero.

late night lucha lodown

thecubsfan

Because I care about you all, I selflessly stayed up to 2AM CST to find out what lucha would air this week. (Actually, the USC/Fresno game finished up at 1:30, and I figured I might as well kill another half hour.)

This looks ODDLY like an infomericial – the one for a truckload of Mexican movie DVDs. There’s some horrible lighting in a couple of the ad spots. Might as well kill some time freshening up the rosters; you look now, you’ll see I’ve finally made the correct side the trios champions. So much time to kill, I remember to steal a better Polvora picture from this week’s Halcon.

Now it’s about 10 after, and my hopes of this just being a short overrun are kinda shot. As I’d like to do both this blue screen and this badly lit shot of a women holding a cowboy hat. Don’t shoot the lady, though. She can stay.

12 after the hour, and they are done! Yay. Gave up hope too soon. Normal ads, normal ads, too many ads. Comcast ad with screwed up low volume, way to go Comcast.

CMLL! CMLL! Probably a rerun! I just recalled when I was righting the opner up there that’s what they’ve done the last few times. Yep, it is.

CMLL #184 – taped 03/18/05 – aired 08/20/05
Hooligan/Veneno/Arkangel vs Blanco/Chris/Metalico [coliseo]
Felino/Volador/Safari vs Dr. X/Nitro/Sangre Azteca
Wagner/Shocker/Mistico vs Ultimo/Tarzan/Hector
Aguayo Sr./Aguayo Jr. vs Cien/MY2K [hair/hair vs hair/hair]

I have no idea why this episode. Fits no pattern. Maybe someone really digs Perro Sr.

So, anyway, if you taped this, you got an old epsiode, and you probably missed the end of main event unless you planned for a huge overrun. Which should be fine, since this is the fourth time it’s been shown now.

I should have a recap or more up tommorow evening.