Month: October 2005

KrisZ says Original Mascarita Sagrada (Tzuki) and Octagoncito are in.

I *think* we’re talking about about the original Octagoncito there; even going to the handy dandy List of Minis and their gimmicks can’t straigthen me out.

I sure hope Mistico doesn’t show up on RAW. Who would he even face, if they’re not bringing someone in to wrestle him? There are matches which wouldn’t be half bad, but I can’t think of a natural rival. If he comes in, he really has to be on the SmackDown! side.

You know, Kane does return tonight. Maybe this is all an elobrate setup for some crash dummies work. We’ve seen sillier.

I’ll tackle the WWE stuff in a separate post, later – waiting around to see if more information surfaces this afternoon. In case you didn’t notice it in the comments, Meltzer said WWE is talking to Pena on Monday, so we’re dealing with that group of minis.

CMLL (FRI) 10/14 Arena Mexico Results [ova]
1) Sombra de Plata, Ray Tapatio I & II b Flecha, Caligula, Mesala
2) Okumura, Masada, Ohara b Maximo, Pantera, Metro
3) Ultimo Dragon, Hijo de Lizmark, Negro Casas b Tarzan Boy, Averno, Mephisto
4) Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Mr. Aguila, Halloween, Damian 666 DQ Universo 2000, Mascara Ano 2000, Apolo Dantes, Pierroth
First two falls were draws (I’m thinking DDQs), and Universo kicked Perro low in the final fall. Ovaciones says all of his partners were restrained by security because the brawl had gotten so out of hand, so I’m thinking Universo made it pretty well with that finish.
5) Mistico b Atlantis
Ref bump, and Mistico may have pulled the mask to get the pin in the final fall. The quick box y lucha forum take was Atlantis dominated the match and Mistico got a fluke pin to win it; of course that’s not CMLL’s view. Obviously not the finish you do if you think Mistico’s leaving the company on Monday.

CMLL (SUN) 10/16 Arena Coliseo Results [box y lucha]
1) Matrix & Triton ? Triturador & Renegado
2) Jeque, Artillero, Zayco b Valiente, Explosivo, Molotov
3) Loco Max, Hooligan, Guerrero del Futuro b Tigre Metalico, StarMAN, Danger
4) Rey Bucanero and Emilio Charles won the tag team tournament. Other teams were Negro Casas & Heavy Metal, Blue Panther & Brazo de Oro, and Felino & Black Warrior
No brackets were listed.
5) Dr. Wagner b Tarzan Boy
Twenty minute match of a hundred minute show. Wagner got the third fall pin clean with the Wagner Driver.

Lineups

CMLL (MON) 10/17 Arena Puebla Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Fenix & King Jaguar vs Rafaga & Murcielago
2) Sigma, Iron, Blue Center vs Toro Bill Jr., Fuerza Chicana, Espiritu Maligno
3) Centella de Oro, SWAT, Tigre Rojo vs Maniacop, Skandalo, Kraken
4) Tarzan Boy, Rey Bucanero, Terrible vs Heavy Metal, Felino, Brazo de Plata
5) Atlantis, Canek, Blue Demon Jr. vs Dos Caras Jr., Hijo de Lizmark, Negro Casas

CMLL (TUE) 10/18 Arena Coliseo Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Espiritu Karimsa vs Polvora & Vaquero
2) Leono, Sombra de Plata, Molotov vs Super Comando, Flecha, Ramstein
3) StarMAN, Sagrado, Trueno vs Safari, Pantera, Metro
4) Brazo de Plata, Lizmark, Black Warrior vs Terrible, Emilio Charles Jr., Canek Jr.
5) Mistico, Dr. Wagner, Negro Casas vs Ultimo Guerrero, Averno, Mephisto

CMLL (TUE) 10/18 Arena Aficion Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Cerebro Negro & Medic’s III vs Hidroman & Minner’s
2) Hooligan & Blade vs Halcon Dorado & Tony Boy
3) Texano Jr. & Kronos vs Jeque & Titan
4) Mistico, ???, ??? vs Averno, Mephisto, Sangre Azteca

CMLL (WED) 10/19 Palenque de la Feria, Guanajuato [box y lucha]
1) Turbo & Kid Tiger vs Black Thunder & Bazooka Negra
2) Tzuki & Ultimo Dragonicto vs Pierrothito & Mini Violencia
3) Dark Angel & Marcela vs Hiroka & La Nazi
4) La Mascara, Volador Jr., Misteerioso II vs Averno, Mephisto, Hijo de Cien Caras
5) Mistico, La Parka, Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Atlantis, Ultimo Guerrero, Rey Bucanero

AAA (THU) 10/20 Gimnasio Marcelino Gonzalez, Zacatecas Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Martha Villalobos, Cinthia Moreno, Estrellita, Tiffany, Diabolica, Mujer Demente, Hechicera, Princesa Blanca [8, br]
This is actually to determine pairs for a mixed tag team tournament.
2) Billy Boy, Hijo del Famtasma, Audaz vs Zumbido, Apache, Hator
3) La Parka, Tinieblas Jr., Luzbel vs Pirata Morgan, Espectro Jr., Fuerza Guerrera
4) Vampiro & Zorro vs Shocker & Charly Manson

Luchas2000 (TUE) 10/20 Arena Coliseo Lineup [box y lucha]
23rd Anniversary Show for el Hijo del Santo
1) Antaris, Zorro Gris, Gran Cuchillo, Vampiro Metalico vs Barones Siniestros I, II, III & IV
2) Galante, Apolo Chino II< Condor Azul vs Dr. Karonte, Principe Odin, Luzbel [10min, one fall] Small arena showcase match.
3) Marcela & Sahora vs Amapola & India Sioux
4) Aguila Solitaria, Pantera, Ciclon Ramirez vs Destructores (Vulcano, Tony Arce, Tocco Valente)
5) Hijo del Santo, Mil Mascaras, Blue Panther, Villano III vs Cuchillo, Dr. Cerebro, Hijo del Cobarde, Hijo del Espanto, Kato Kung Lee, Scorpio Jr., Silver King, Super Parka

CMLL (FRI) 10/21 Arena Mexico Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Bam Bam & Mini Olimpico vs Pierrothito & Mini Violencia
2) Sagrado, Texano, Maximo vs Masada, Loco Max, Nitro
3) Universo 2000, Ultimo Guerrero, Rey Bucanero vs Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Hector Garza, Terrible
3) Mistico, El Hijo del Santo, Negro Casas vs Mr. Aguila, Damian 666, Halloween
3) Dr. Wagner, Dos Caras Jr., Hijo de Lizmark vs Alantis, Jado, Gedo
Triple main event. Jado and Gedo’s redebut.

AAA (SUN) 10/22 Plaza de Toros, Cuautla, Morelos Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Super Calo & Ultraman vs Cuervo & Scoria
2) Mascara Sagrada Jr., Alan Stone vs May Flowers & Polvo de Estrellas
3) El Brazo, Cinthia Moreno, Mascarita Sagrada vs Charly Manson, Tiffany, Mini Abismo Negro
4) Latin Lover & Octagon vs Cibernetico & Hator

AAA (SUN) 10/22 Gimnasio Nuevo Atzacoalco, DF Lineup [box y lucha]
1) ?
2) Nene & Thor vs Macabro & Tanaka
3) Tigre Japones & Tigre Tatuado vs Aztlan & Humilde
4) Histeria, Oriental, Hijo del Fantasma vs Psicosis, Espectro Jr., King Haku
5) La Parka, Alebrije (w/Cuije), Tinieblas (w/Alushe) vs Abismo Negro, ???, Monsther (w/Chucky)

CMLL (SAT) 10/22 Arena Lopez Mateos, EdM Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Cat & Bravo Mejia vs Alacran Dorado & Sombra Escarlata
2) Audaz, Matematico II, Matematico Jr. vs Tortugas Mutantes
3) Marcela, Sahora, ?? vs Amapola, Princesa Sujei, Senora Muerte
Senora Muerte is a great name.
4) Felino, La Mascara, Maximo vs Extreme Family (Judas, Sadico, Locky)
5) Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Mr. Aguila, Terrible vs Villano (III, IV, V)

RING SIDE (SAT) 10/22 Ciudad Juarez Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Porky (w/Ke Monito), Brazo de Oro, Black Fire vs Super Parka, Scorpio Jr., Psycho
2) Negro Casas & Heavy Metal vs Halloween & Damian 666
3) Dr. Wagner, Blue Panther, Rayo de Jalisco vs Atlantis, Pierroth, Universo 2000
4) Hijo del Santo, Mistico, LA Park vs Blue Demon Jr., Tarzan Boy, Hector Garza

CMLL (SUN) 10/23 Arena Coliseo Lineup [box y lucha]
1) ?
2) Rayo Tapatios I & II vs Artillero, Sayko, Cobalto
Yea, that can’t be right.
3) Kronos, Valiente, Danger vs Hooligan, Guerrero del Futuro, Apocalipsis
4) Lizmark, Safari, Brazo de Oro vs Emilio Charles Jr., Hijo de Pierroth, Canek
5) Mistico, Dos Caras Jr., Negro Casas, Black Warrior vs Ultimo Guerrero, Olimpico, Jado, Gedo
This seems like a pretty fun card.

CMLL (SUN) 10/23 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara Lineup [box y lucha]
1) Rockero vs Fralie de la Muerte
2) Exterminador vs Guero Loco
3) Stuka Jr., Oro II, Flash I vs Malefico, Danger, Infernal
4) Virus, Tigre Blanco, Leon Blanco vs Toxico, Magnum, Pierroth Jr.
5) Universo 2000 & Mascara Ano 2000 vs Hector Garza & Tarzan Boy

IWRG cards to come when they post complete lineups.

Mistico defended his NWA Middleweight Championship in Guadalajara last night. No word yet, but I think we can guess who one.

CMLL.com has the lineups for the Leyenda de Plata. Oddly, they’ve changed up the format: two nights of 8 man ciberneticos (though they don’t explicitly say cibernetico), with the winners meeting the third week. No idea if Perro being the reigning champion plays into this at all, but he’s not mentioned.

Group A (10/28): La Mascara, Volador Jr., Misterioso II, Averno, Jado, a new Hombre Sin Nombre (???), Negro Casas, El Hijo del Santo
Group B (11/04): Atlantis, Mephisto, Hijo de Pierroth, Gedo, Maximo, Sagrado, Ultimo Dragon, Mistico
Final (11/11)

I’m not sure if the groups are actually unbalanced, or if I just happen to like many more guys in Group A than I do Group B and my thoughts are skewed. The final seems like to be Negro Casas or El Hijo del Santo vs Atlantis or Mistico, and while I think seeing Negro vs Mistico would be neat, I think we’re most likely to get Santo vs Atlantis.

I don’t even have the slightest clue who HsN is this time. They say it’s a debut, which means it’s very unlikely to be Rayman again.

Looks like the Super Lucha recaps are MIA this week as well; I forgot to note, but O’Campo’s recap was equally missing from it’s usually Halcon spot, with someone else filling in

Box Y Lucha is doing a chat with Mike Seguira at 2pm today.

So I guess they won’t be call ’em minis:

In an unprecedented collaboration, network executive Palmer Canon and SmackDown General Manager Theodore Long announced today the introduction of a new WWE wrestling division exclusive to Friday Night SmackDown: The Juniors.

The Juniors Division will be comprised of world-class athletes at or below 5 feet tall. “Midgets, dwarves, the little people; they’re all welcome,” said Long. “We don’t discriminate against anybody on my show, as long as they can bring it.”

“The network believes there’s big ratings and big excitement in the new Juniors Division,” Canon added. “I think fans will be shocked at what these tiny, but very talented, competitors can add to the already incredibly gifted roster here on Friday Night SmackDown.”

– wwe.com, today

I strongly suspect this means Tzuki/Mascara Sagrada I to lead the division, and maybe 3-5 more guys to round out, on a limited length contract.

Those of you who predicted a three hour lucha show meant the return of AAA, give yourself a pat on the back. It is indeed the Triplemania show:

Stealing from WHV for a moment, the whole TripleMania card aired as:

1. El Angel/Mascarita Sagrada/Lady Apache/Sexy Francis vs. El Texano/Mini Abismo Negro/Tiffany/Polvo de Estrellas
2. Pirata Morgan/Tinieblas Jr./Monsther w/ Chuky vs. Tinieblas Sr. w/ Alushe/Hijo de Anibal/Alebrije w/ Cuije
3. Electroshock/CIMA/El Intocable vs. Charly Manson/Hator/Mr. Aguila
4. Psicosis (AAA) vs. Nicho El Millonario – Winner gets the right to be called “Psicosis”. Wild brawl. Histeria gets involved.
5. Zorro/Juventud Guerrera/Luzbel vs. The Predator/Al Katrazz/Apocalypse w/ Rick Bassman
6. Konnan vs. Vampiro
7. Latin Lover/Octagon/La Parka (AAA) vs. Chessman/Cibernetico/Fuerza Guerrera

However, this show started with the CIMA match. I don’t know if they had to cut it down to fit a three hour window with commerical breaks (WHV has it all as 3:20 without breaks), or if CMLL is airing, but I’d bet on the former.

Following up on the improbable “Johnny Ace loves Mexicans” story from yesterday, I recommend you swallow before reading this news item:

–WWE is trying to quickly put together deals to bring in Lucha Libre guys as soon as Monday in Sacramento. I’m not sure whether it’s TNA’s ratings or the articles on how strong Spanish radio has become in so many markets that has spurred the thinking, but they are looking at bringing in several more stars from Mexico as regulars and were trying to get minis, Porky and Mistico that I’m aware of for Monday. None of the deals have been made at this point, and it’s going to be an ultra-rush job if they can contact the guys and get them done.

– WO.com – today

And I was worried Bryan and I wouldn’t have much current events to talk about.

If Mistico goes, everyone is available. On the other hand, since this has no chance of working, I’d make sure I got $$$$$ if I was a lucha guy signing with WWE.

Did they have this idea earlier this week? Juvi won the title belt, and Super Crazy and Psicosis actually make Smackdown – but then, they’re there to be crash test dummies for a debuting team. Obviously, they stand to benefit from this (sudden, random, probably not well thought) impluse change of direction either way.

WHERE IS GROON WHEN YOU NEED HIM?

Lucha 2000 promoted Santo show next Thursday: poster, magazine cover – luchalibre.com

Mistico in a Guerrero del Ring magazine: Page 1, 2, 3, 4 – box y lucha