10/21 news

Luchas2000 (TUE) 10/20 Arena Coliseo Lineup [box y lucha]
23rd Anniversary Show for el Hijo del Santo
1) Antaris, Zorro Gris, Gran Cuchillo, Vampiro Metalico b Barones Siniestros I & II, Euforia, Zoku
2) Dr. Karonte, Principe Odin, Luzbel b Galante, Apolo Chino II, Condor Azul [10min, one fall]
3) Marcela & Sahora b Amapola & India Sioux
4) Aguila Solitaria, Pantera, Ciclon Ramirez b Destructores (Vulcano, Tony Arce, Tocco Valente
5) Hijo del Cobarde, Kato Kung Lee, Super Parka, Silver King b Cuchillo, Dr. Cerebro, Hijo del Espanto, Scorpio Jr.
6) Hijo del Santo, Mil Mascaras, Blue Panther, Villano III b Hijo del Cobarde, Kato Kung Lee, Super Parka, Silver King
Santo got many gifts, including a giant painting of the silver mask. Santo sent well wishes to El Texano, who’s back in the hospital.

Usually Arena Mexico preview
– Triple Main Event
– Santo teaming with Mistico
– Jado and Gedo return to Mexico
– Universo & GdI vs Perros; Tarzan nowhere to be found
– New Mexican trios champions are all together, working a nontitle match.
– Mini Pierroth is supposed to be working the opener.

On Box Y Lucha’s forum, there’s a picture of next week’s Acapulco poster. What’s with Terrible’s hair? Is that a beret?

I started watching TripleMania last night (expect a recap tonight or Saturday), and I’ve gotten as far as the Vampiro/Konnan intros. Valiant tecnico cornerman Antonio Pena made me tap out. Anyway, as the ultimate representation of all AAA is 2005, it’s only missing a spot fest, and a man/women/midget match. It’s sure got the internal match logic down.

Lucha Times

Here.

I was thinking the other day about the time gap on CMLL shows. I know there’s plenty of good matches in the queue. I also know there are some lame matches, and the delay is stretching on forever. At this point, I’d prefer skipping them all rather than dealing with the delay longer. I could easily pick and choose tapes of what I wanted to see (and I’d still be okay with it if I can’t.)

If you’re like me, and the delay is annoying you just as much, then AAA turning back up is the worst news possible. When they’ve stopped airing CMLL in the past, they’ve just kept the tapes neatly ordered up, and picked up from where they left off. (That’s the origin of this delay – from picking up after lucha stopped airing on Gala, and from picking up after the AAA-only section.)

In AAA’s case, they did skip a taping from what we’ve last seen. Wacky theory: they didn’t receive the tape (or any tape) as scheduled last time they were airing AAA, so that’s why they switched back. We’re actually picking up within a week of the expected CMLL show, not any close to being current. If Alfredo’s listings are complete, we will (somehow) be moving faster thru time with AAA, since there’s about one taping a month. Based off those tape listings, I’ve created an Yet To Air – AAA list of it’s own, so you can plan out how things will go, if they stick with AAA.

Saturday: Split feed, but only the West Coast feed is affected. Weird group of matches; you’ve got Shocker’s match off a TNA PPV, a match from last week’s Triplemania, highlights of a match from last YEAR’s TripleMania, a trios match with the tecnicos all working under dual identities, and Nicho last match with the company as they swap Histeria in his place for the identity feud with Psicosis II.

Sunday: Perro Aguayo Sr in a hair match! Yea.

10/20 news

IWRG (THU) 10/20 Arena Naucalpan Lineup [iwrg]
1) Mr. Libra vs Rey Estruendo
2) Panterita & Ultra Mega vs Carta Brava & Super Colt
3) Stripers (Tony Rivera, Star Boy, Marco Rivera) vs Los Guerreros (Nitro, Dr. X, Loco Max)
4) Suicida, Fantasma Jr. Matrix, vs Okumura, Masada, Veneno
5) Casas Family (Heavy Metal, Negro Casas, Felino) vs Blue Demon Jr., Head Hunter I, Enterrador 2000

IWRG (SUN) 10/23 Arena Naucalpan Lineup [iwrg]
1) Freezby vs Conde Negro
2) Kit Tiger & Gallo de Jalisco vs Paramedico & Super Colt
3) Kato Kung Lee, Kung Fu Jr., Aquiles vs Cyborg, Xibalva, Black Jaguar
4) Veneno, Dr. Cerebro, Cerebro Negro vs Enterrador 2000, Masada, Okumura
5) Heavy Metal, Mascara Sagrada, Suicida vs Head Hunter I, Scorpio Jr., Bestia Salvaje

CMLL (THU) 10/20 Arena Neza Lineup [ova]
1) ?
2) ?
3) La Mascara & Volador Jr. vs Averno & Mephisto
4) Damian 666, Halloween, Satanico vs Tarzan Boy, Rey Bucanero, Emilio Charles Jr.
This is not going to go well for Satanico. This lineup doesn’t match at all with the List of Appearing guys Box Y Lucha had at the beginning of the week.

Ovaciones also goes over the lineups for Leyenda de Plata (no change – the final is going to be a 2/3 falls match instead of a single fall) and tonight’s Hijo de Santo 23rd anniversary show (no mention of Panther being out.) Instead of it being a 4 v 8 match, the rudo side will split in half and face each other for the right to fight Santo and his crew.

Halcon Net #41 is up. Inside
– Lots of No Mercy coverage; more than some US sites might have done. This happens when you’ve got a Mexican winning the Cruiserweight Title and another challenging for the World Title.
– Interview with Justiciero. I’m not familiar with him; he’s on the To Do list for Lucha Wiki profiles (till now!)
– Highpoint of the usual crazy Te Das column is describing Dark Angel as “Canadian chocolate.” I have no idea what that means, but it sounds good.
– Arena Mexico recap is good for the flying Mistico pictures alone.
– Sombre de Plata Q&A. His favorite drink is Orange Juice. Use this information wisely.
– LLF recap.
– The poster isn’t up! Tragedy.
– Interview with indy wrestler Storm
– Column saying Ricky Marvin wouldn’t be as successful if he stayed in Mexico full time, because he’d be stuck waiting for an opportunity.

KrisZ says Angel won that AAA 8 man cibernetico for the MEX MW – but it was only another qualifying match for the actual title match. Whatever.

F4Weekly Audio feedback

If you’ve listened to the show and want to make any comments, here’s the place to do it. I didn’t want to kill myself at any point of the conversation or after, so I guess I’m happy with it.

I’ve listened to Mr. Tony long enough to know I should’ve been using a land line. If/when there’s a next time, I’ll try better.

While you can guess which question caught me off guard the most, the one thing that surprised me was Bryan not knowing about the La Arena profiles being moved to the Lucha Wiki. If you’re new, or you missed the initial push when we launched it, I urge you to check it out and add your own infromation – any one who signs up can edit.

Lucha Times will come later tonight. Just got back from watching NLCS6.

Update: Just realized I don’t really have my new computer ready enough to do what I need to do for the lucha times update. I’m pushing it off till tommorow night instead.

10/19 news

CMLL (TUE) 10/18 Arena Coliseo Results [cmll]
1) Polvora & Vaquero b Espiritu & Karimsa
2) Super Comando, Flecha, Ramstein b Leono, Sombra de Plata, Molotov
3) StarMAN Volador Jr., Sagrado, Trueno b Safari, Pantera Misterioso II, Metro
Nice subs. If Safari’s going out, he’s going out with a match the people at Coliseo really enjoyed; they both got money post match.
4) Brazo de Plata Felino, Lizmark Sr., Black Warrior b Terrible, Emilio Charles Jr., Canek Jr.
5) Mistico, Dr. Wagner Jr., Negro Casas DQ Ultimo Guerrero, Averno, Mephisto
Ultimo low blowed Wagner.

Off of that main event finish, the current plan is to do Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Ultimo Guerrero for the UWA Heavyweight Championship next week. That could be fun.

Brazo de Plata debuted in a vignette last night for Friday Night’s SmackDown. SPOILER: He ate a ham. Also debuting were someone in a Mascarita Sagrada (I don’t dare guess which one), possibly Pierrothito and one guy. They debuted backstage, as ideas from the heel Network executive (so they’re bailing on this already) and did not wrestle. If I get definite names, I’ll update this later.

Ovaciones followed/stalked Mistico for a day. It’s perfect Ovaciones, because while they talk much about Mistico being impressed by the printing presses when he came by the newspaper, they just off hand mention he had a meeting with the bookers and don’t give any more detail, because that’s far less important than the presses.

StarMAN and Sangre Azteca are in Japan from 10/19 to 11/08 – actually, perhaps since yesterday, given Starman’s no show.

Satanico is forced to team up with FdT in Arena Neza this week. No word on who they’re facing.

Blue Panther will be out one week, after hurting his left elbow at last week’s Arena Mexico show. That’d put him out of the Santo show tomorrow, and the Ring Side show on Saturday.

Box Y Lucha #2736 is up. Inside
Cover of Mistico and Famous Soccer Player exchanging gear. Inside, they talk about how great the other one is, and how great futbol and lucha is.
Poster of Mil Mascaras in a couple of movies. It’s neat looking.
– Mil Mascaras talks about the new movie he’s filming.
– Words with Sagrado, Texano Jr., Maximo on winning the Mexican Trios Titles. The lead in is all “we didn’t think they had any chance – guess we were wrong.” Sagrado dedicates the win to Texano Sr. Texano Jr. invites all challenges. Maximo says they’re three very different person with one common goal.
– Lady Apache sorta explains her situation. She would’ve loved to be in the CMLL Women’s Tournament, but she had to wrestle in the US that night. She denies she’s no showed any show at any time ever, more or less.
Lucha Horoscopes. I’ll just point you towards it and back away.
– Head Hunter I is trying to get back in CMLL.
– A column about the life of a luchadore.
– Ultimo Guerrero explains that Rey Bucanero, Tarzan Boy, Olimpico and Atlantis are all on the same page. Rey’s completely okay now, and please forget we teased the split.
– Jado & Gedo hype. Like elsewhere, they mention they’ve got history in lucha libre, but not their past gimmicks.
– How did you start in wrestling: Olimpico. He talks more about his career than his start, though.
– Axxel talks about his start.

After seeing the pictures, I can kinda see new HsN = Safari, but I don’t completely buy it. I need to see him blow something in the ring before I’m completely sure.

I’m taping the radio bit in about 3 hours. This’ll be interesting.

10/18 news

CMLL (MON) 10/17 Arena Puebla Results [box y lucha’s arturo]
1) Fenix & King Jaguar b Rafaga & Murcielago
2) Sigma, Iron, Blue Center DQ Toro Bill Jr., Fuerza Chicana, Espiritu Maligno
3) Maniacop, Skandalo, Kraken b Centella de Oro, SWAT, Tigre Rojo
4) Tarzan Boy, Rey Bucanero, Terrible b Heavy Metal, Felino, Brazo de Plata
5) Atlantis, Canek, Blue Demon Jr. b Dos Caras Jr., Hijo de Lizmark, Negro Casas

So. No unusual lucha guys on RAW (except if you count Val lasting forever in the battle royal) and none in the dark/Heat matches either. I think this is a good thing. There still should be some minis tonight on the SmackDown! tapings, but I’m not as concerned about that backfiring and hurting everyone as much.

On the SoCalUncensored board, there’s a post saying WWE asked CMLL if they could use Mistico, and CMLL said no. I’m surprised WWE would bother to ask the promotion and not go directly to the wrestler, but maybe they didn’t have any other way of contacting him.

Jado and Gedo may be on a plane for Mexico as we speak. They’re not the only Japanese wrestlers heading in; Ovaciones reports ex-WWE/ex-NJPW Kenzo Suzuki is due in for the 11/11 show. Having watched enough of his WWE run, and just imagining him in lucha, I’m not so high on that idea.

Ovaciones also has another interview with India Sioux and the usual Paucha preview.

Anyone hear anything about lucha shows at Congress (or elsewhere in the area) the rest of the month? Back in September, there was a mention of a FMLL show on 10/24, but Congress’ website says nothing about it. (FMLL isn’t updating their website, or they’ve switched and I’m slow.) Nothing on the new ChicagoWrestling boards either, but I think we lost the plugged in luchafan guy on the switchover.

There’s a thread on Box Y Lucha theorizing the new Hombre Sin Nombre is Safari, based on comparing pictures (which aren’t posted.) Kinda weak.

Mistico did retain the NWA MW title over Averno.